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1:00 PM
I don't know if the mails I received were personal. They did respond when I reported serial downvoting, but the mail I got seems like a standard mail.
I also got some before:
Account merge and newsletters
(So, the story: I was serially downvoted, but after 24 hours, not all downvotes were reversed).
Newsletters aren't personal... they might be automatically personalized, but I don't think that's what @chmod666telkitty meant.
sd gone
Actually, why didn't repeating chars pick it up?
> fdgzghjdghjfghdfhgjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj‌​jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
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Well, the first time I got suspended for 7 days, I received a personal email & was banned by a CM. Last time, there was no email and it was from a newb moderator. WTF I almost rage quit because such a downgrade in services.
1:08 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Ethernet - 3000V Isolation by banu on electronics.stackexchange.com (@PeterJ)
sd tpu-
i am a potato
user202362
you can put potatoes in socks
user202362
amazing
1:19 PM
Lol
@Doorhandle Are you @Doorknob's sock?
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE no he's not
they got long history
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: What region is The Netherlands by sallandstorage on stackoverflow.com
@chmod666telkitty Those personal emails are mostly templated.
user202362
I rather not discuss, it would get embarrassing for everyone involved.
1:29 PM
> In coming weeks, additional communications about obtaining the new cards will be widely available via social media, general e-mails and e-Currents.
o_o
user259867
The forgot to mention web-sites.
e-internet-web-sites
user259867
So what's an e-Current, is it dangerous for e-swimmers?
Noooo
Minecraft Forge is 503 :(
Eddy currents - that's what I'm waiting to receive
1:33 PM
@NormalHuman no idea
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: how to add message box with ok button by user5621466 on stackoverflow.com
user202362
wtf does doorknob claim to be 14? I saw some chat message of him in the lounge back in 2011!
user202362
something is not right
user259867
He's turning 15 in a couple of weeks.
user202362
1:34 PM
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, Feb 4 '13 at 23:13, by Doorknob
@DeadMG And you noticed because...?
user259867
Which is practically retirement age by the Tavern's standard.
@chmod666telkitty true he started when still 12
(or even 11?)
anyway...

Does @Doorknob have a sock?

Jan 27 '14 at 23:05, 1 minute total – 18 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 52 secs ago by Shadow Wizard

Lol
Jan 27 '14 at 23:06, by Shadow Wizard
But.. both of you got Llama obsession
Stop reminding me of annoying girls in class
1:37 PM
?
They have something about llamas.
as for age:
> I'm thirteen years old (yes I was twelve when I signed up, but I had my parents make my account on my behalf and did not post any personal information, which I believe is legal :-P), and I am very passionate about programming. I have some questions regarding young programmers, and I'm wondering where to ask.
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE who? Girls?
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE why?
Why would I know (Or even care about them)?
1:40 PM
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE because you want to know them better?
@ShadowWizard Erm no
They hate me
user259867
Doorknob's top Meta.SO answer is about SOTV... if anyone remembers that.
user202362
@ShadowWizard lol ... doorknob probably had this parents to answer questions for him too, that would explain a lot of things ... rofl
DK/alive
> You doubt my programming skills?
user202362
why didn't I think of it ...
1:45 PM
He should make a bot like that
user202362
Just you think the internet can not get any weirder ...
Isn't @Doorknob the one who originally started Smoky?
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Is the Goddess Harp from Skyward Sword the harp Sheik plays in OOT? by Lawrance on gaming.stackexchange.com
Troll alert
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: SharePoint send an email to users specified in a Field by DenisS on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to Integrate SharePoint 2007/2010 and Google Apps? by DenisS on stackoverflow.com
1:59 PM
@SmokeDetector why?
@ShadowWizard Post manually reported by user Tunaki in room SO Close Vote Reviewers.
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Coloring Arab suffix without losing connection by TAMIMI on tex.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)
So many trolls
My spelling!
2:30 PM
Mornin
@SterlingArcher It is indeed. And a monday at that
> The squirrels in Palo Alto spend most of the day playing.
can testify, is correct
Yeah and I've already burned myself and spilled coffee on my freshly dry cleaned pants :(
Happy mondayyy
2:34 PM
@SterlingArcher It's called Monday for a reason.
Hey the only thing we did at school today is laugh at teachers.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How to remove lint from a shirt without a lint brush? by John cena on lifehacks.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)
2:51 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: What can I do to eliminate drift when cutting with my bandsaw? by user1430 on woodworking.stackexchange.com
@ng_beard Hi, thanks for letting us know. Looks like Cloud Flare had an issue in LA at around that time. Apologies for the inconvenience!
3:16 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HAVE YOU NEVER READ THE GENEVA BIBLE? by John on christianity.stackexchange.com
3:32 PM
Is Trello being insanely slow for anyone else?
user259867
Works normally for me.
3:50 PM
I seem to be having issues flagging posts properly
I want to flag this as NAA, is that correct?
Or is it VLQ?
Looks like NAA to me
What's the fundamental difference. I got a declined flag today and I need to learn from it
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A: how to load external web div content to my iframe in javascript?

Chris TrudeauDo any of the answers here work for you? iframe to Only Show a Certain Part of the Page You may be experiencing security restrictions if you're trying to grab content from a different site due to the same-origin policy.

Flagged this VLQ and it was declined. Saw a link-only answer really.
@Feeds CF got lots of issues
I wonder who gets Feeds pings
!!/blame
@ShadowWizard It's vaultah's fault.
4:05 PM
:o
·o·
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: Origin of Fag in British English by Obsidian Phoenix on english.stackexchange.com
4:12 PM
sd fp-
@SterlingArcher That is not link-only. Without the link it still conveys some info that might be relevant. security restrictions ... same-origin policy
so even a barely minimal may not even help explanation makes it non-flaggable?
@SterlingArcher Yeah, better to downvote and possibly delete vote in such cases.
I don't have delete votes yet
But I can downvote
Thanks!
@SterlingArcher go answer questions then... instead of wrongly flagging posts ;)
4:25 PM
NEVAR
...is the difference between a raven and a writing desk.
....or wait, it was what they had in common. (* Note to self: read up on classics before @tchrist slaps me on the wrist * ;-) )
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE I only have one sock, whose name is NotDoorknob
@chmod666telkitty My parents don't know the difference between Java and JavaScript :P
@ShadowWizard Uhh... kinda sorta. I made the original non-headless JS bot, and then Manish and co. improved upon it drastically.
4:51 PM
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Q: The Very Low Quality flag is broken

bjb568NAA is for answers that don't make any attempt to answer the question: asdfjhaklsefuh I like cows Thanks! Did you find the solution? Sometimes link-only answers, but not all moderators agree VLQ is for posts that are: Very low quality (no, that's downvote). Have severe formatting or content...

Nobody knows the difference between NAA and VLQ.
Ew, so basically never VLQ an answer
Who's the Ryan OHara moderator in those comments?
minitech, apparently.
Hm. Ok.
VLQ = can't be salvaged by editing. So every answer that is VLQ is implicitly also NAA.
4:54 PM
@SterlingArcher Well, if it isn't accepted or highly voted, it'll go thru the LQRQ and you're pretty safe. Unless there's a mod there, so you'll have 95% accept rate. With accepted or highly voted answers, it goes straight to the mods, so you'll have 95% declined rate :p
lol oh I didn't know that
@S.L.Barth … according to some definition.
....that just happens to be the definition in the flagging dialog.
> Yeah, it's unclear written and not well documented, but I flag as VLQ everything that has a good chance to be deleted in review queue.
If it can be salvaged, it shouldn't be deleted.
4:56 PM
Yup.
Editing in the queue instantly de-queues.
Recently I've been thinking that, although link-only answers are technically NAA, they should not be deleted. Precisely because they can be salvaged.
@S.L.Barth can they be?
meeeh
@S.L.Barth if you can fix, then do so
That's not always the case. The canonical example of a bad link-only answer is literally "try this [](), it might work"
5:00 PM
Today's xkcd comic (Fire Ants):
Maybe if OP (or you if you can) extracts the correct part of the blag/tutorial/whatever and add the appropriate guidance, but not just copy-pasting the whole page with attribution.
@S.L.Barth For those that can be salvaged, the important question becomes: "Is anyone going to salvage this?"
Ok, they can't all be salvaged. But what about the ones that can?
@Shog9 Agreed.
As it is, by deleting them only the poster and 10K users can salvage them.
You'll notice that some moderators will routinely decline flags on link-only answers if the answer is heavily voted and/or accepted. The implication is, "this answer has been useful - edit it so that it continues to be useful"
wants recommend-convert-to-comment flag
5:02 PM
wants to auto-decline convert-to-comment flags
not being comments is rarely a problem with answers
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Reveal the True IP of a User by jack on security.stackexchange.com
@Shog9 Is that this answer has been useful - edit it so that it continues to be useful text left by mods in the flag decline reasons?
not being answers is more frequently a problem with comments
waffles
5:03 PM
@rene too much to type
@rene sometimes. Or the default "flags are not for technical issues or wrong answers"
@Shog9 Well, it seems to be a solution to link-only answers. They have some value, but not lasting.
@bjb568 so... pin them above all the other answers where they'll need another flag to get rid of?
make them so that no one can edit to salvage if they wanted to?
It wil need some meta-posts and whining on meta to get that fix links attitude in everyone's system...
@Shog9 Hm, so "it's a link only answer" counts as a "technical issue"? Since a link-only is not necessarily wrong.
5:07 PM
@Shog9 Hmm… I see your point.
If I flagged a link-only answer and it was declined as "not for technical issues or wrong answers", that would confuse me.
The whole system confuses me.
@S.L.Barth it's rarely that clear-cut. Situations where a link usefully answers the question disproportionately involve questions that ask for links.
True, but in that case it's often the question itself that needs to be closed as a request for off-site resources.
Before you flag a link-only answer, you have to check if the question needs a flag. After that check if you can bring in the content behind the link, if that will fail, flag as link-only.
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5:14 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Playing Assassin's Creed 3 in windowed mode by Fasty on gaming.stackexchange.com
And of course, this is where we get into the "potentially-salvageable" cases: the top answer amounts to, "use this []() library, follow these []() instructions".
Right on the border between "enough information to be useful" and "timebomb"
Yes, that bears thinking. Sometimes "use this library" is a good answer.
It can save a user a lot of time, keep them from having to re-invent the wheel.
@S.L.Barth no.
Library recommendations are off-topic and answers that do only that are invalid.
A code example that happens to use a library is fine, however, but "USE JQUERY IT'S THE BEST" is never an acceptable answer, even if the question is about easy DOM traversal or something.
An answer that recommends a library should explain how using the library can solve the problem, that is true.
I think that's exactly the situation Shog described.
For example, someone needs to get all <IMG> elements from an HTML document, using Python. We could tell them how to parse HTML, or tell them how to do it using Beautiful Soup.
yay BS4!
I agree that library recommendations (disclaimer...it's my answer) are good, if they explain why you want to use that library over either built in functionality or alternatives.
5:40 PM
So the difficult situation arises when there is a reasonable chance that the library will disappear in the foreseeable future.
or when it's not clear how the library helps, or when there are like a dozen of these recommendations none with enough information to stand out, or when you're pretty sure the entire Q&A is a construct built by spammers to promote their SMS libraries...
That last case is covered by another flag.
But yes, there are a dozen more situations where it's not clear-cut.
sd gone
HATS!
!!/hats
@ProgramFOX HATS ARE AWESOME. Winter Bash will begin in 13 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes and 26 seconds. :D
> But, you'll probably see it unlocked by using the power that a monarch commands, which is broadly ceremonial. Maybe you'll have to grant a pardon, or give something a stay of execution. Or perhaps you'll have to 'knight' someone by being the vote that causes them to unlock a privilege.
(http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/214602/168333)
Hm... grant a pardon... maybe editing an answer in the LQ queue, so that it remains on the site?
could be...
6:14 PM
Or un-downvote something.
@SmokeDetector :D
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6:55 PM
We are aware of global routing issues hitting our sites. Hurricane Electric is having some trouble routing through Europe. We're watching.
Hi all
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: How Cogniflex Works? by Firep1993 on stackoverflow.com
user259867
Hi Frank, it's as usual here: spam, bugs, hats.
7:13 PM
So I see
@Frank \o
7:34 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Outside these types of fake evaluations by Pureternal Nkdasa on superuser.com
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sd 2tpu-
user259867
@Feeds Must be e-Currents flowing the wrong way around Europe.
user259867
Pushing the e-Hurricane off its path.
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Q: How can I create simple view engine like Mustache {{ }} using JavaScript only

Hasan A YousefHow can I create simple view engine like Mustache, so that the word between the {{ }} is replaced by its value, like: hey there {{ codeName }} codeName = 'JavaScript 6' so that it be converted to: hey there JavaScript 6

Can we purge these comments please?
7:47 PM
Flag it for purging
I did
Does it only take 1?
user259867
It takes 1 mod to react to the flag.
user259867
But given that the question is slated for Roomba in 9 days, I probably wouldn't bother with the comments.
user259867
If it got edited/reopened, then a comment cleanup would be called for.
8:01 PM
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[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: replace table layout with DIVs by Altaf Shaikh on stackoverflow.com
user259867
@SmokeDetector ignore- but the entire Q&A seems disposable.
user259867
> "Automated Cat feeder powered by Node.js" I wouldn't do it unless you can use containers for your cats and reboot them -- Kyle Brandt at 12:00 PM - 30 Nov 2015 via Twitter
… and the DDOS vulnerability could cause interruption in cat food delivery :o
user259867
Is that why you're developing in Node? Classical conditioning.
8:25 PM
user259867
I wonder what panerabread.com runs on, then.
Pluralization bug.
8:47 PM
Did you really only had one chip?
user259867
Possibly, after a recent warning by Shog...
user259867
yesterday, by Shog9
Only the oven-baked ones though. They appeal to my desire to eat healthy without putting any effort in. Those heathens who eat the fried ones are gonna burn in their own body fat.
9:29 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: How does Clairvoyance work? by Dr. Gurilarico Guru on rpg.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)
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Anonymous
stackoverflow.com/questions/33991998/xss-with-script-removal There is no clear question here. It's an open-ended security puzzle problem statement. There are dozens of possible solutions. If someone put in the time to distill a real question, it would certainly be a duplicate.
9:55 PM
I still wish they would do this
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Q: Allow access to anonymous feedback stats without 10k rep

FrankRight now you need the Access To Moderator Tools privilege (awarded at 10k on a regular site, 2k on public beta, 1k on private beta) to access anonymous feedback on that site. I don't see why that is, and I often want to view this info on sites where I don't have the privilege. So I have to use S...

SEDE is so ...
10:23 PM
... fantastic?
user259867
I wish SEDE was updated daily.
user259867
10:39 PM
Three candidates in SR election so far: Izzy, ᔕᖺᘎᕊ, and Undo.
user259867
11:03 PM
Math is an example of a site where none of pro-tem mods became mods. (As a matter of fact, none of them ran in the election.) Are there other such sites?
user202362
!!/coffee
@chmod666telkitty brews coffee for @chmod666telkitty
@SmokeDetector tpu-
> The free certificate provided by Let’s Encrypt will require you to install and run software and have some knowledge of how SSLs work.
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