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12:00 AM
^ Needed a perm ban.
Actually, 180, we gotta bring that back.
 
user202362
Does anyone have a list of people who have been banned for more than 2 years and the ban is still currently operative?
 
I'm sure somebody does and equally sure it's a secret.
 
user259867
> When I hang out in chat, it's striking how many people use our sites well before they enter the workforce. -- Jon Ericson
 
user202362
Is it a secret on 'how many' (other than those who caused some sort of DDos attack)?
 
@JasonC is in 11th... again.
 
12:07 AM
It's hard coded. I'm surprised I'm not #19 this time, though.
 
My current dilemma is who to root for #10... Andy or Jason?
 
Both. We need to wrangle 1500 downvotes for Undo.
 
user202362
I tends to forget this chat gets ... 'dedicated' during election runs ...
 
No more dedicated than say the Lounge...
 
We have literally nothing to talk about, it doesn't take much, lol.
 
12:11 AM
At least @JasonC is still alive.
His last chat message before this was... September?
 
I just haven't had much to say lately.
 
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A: Fall 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire

bjb568bjb568's answers A user with less than 2,000 rep is on an edit spree, changing nothing more in all the posts they're editing than one or two small word(s), and their edit is either incomplete or is not an improvement of the post each time. They're up to 45 similar/identical edits in the co...

gah this took forever to write
 
user259867
Do people still read those?
 
12:26 AM
no
 
oh yeah that exists!
 
user259867
The question about "Meta posts you're proud of" is good. Otherwise...
 
user202362
@hichris123 I don't know, I am getting less and less enchanted by the lounge. I don't think I will quit it, but then again there is not much point spending time there either - I think it's mainly because a lot of the regulars whom I used to chat to have become inactive. Lounge has subtly changed.
 
@NormalHuman SELECT FROM METAPOSTS WHERE SCORE > 20
 
I'd imagine that's exactly the type of answer that the person who asked the question would like to avoid...
(otherwise there'd be no point in asking it)
 
12:32 AM
@Doorknob SELECT FROM METAPOSTS WHERE SCORE < -20 :P
 
Hmm… it looks like we might need to choose between Andy and Jason C.
 
Oh, primaries...
 
Hai everyone
 
I guess the result is more-or-less clear, unless they back down?
Morning
 
user259867
Top three are separated from the rest, but voting in final round can be surprisingly different from the primaries.
 
user259867
log scale for rep
 
... I just exited out of it. :(
After homework. :P
 
1:00 AM
!!/blame
 
@JamesENL It's Andrew T.'s fault.
 
@SmokeDetector >:(
uhh, meta.MO is quite active... (thanks, meta feed on a certain chat room)
 
user259867
0
Q: Warning on increased disruptive activities

François G. DoraisRecently, one or more problematic users have been staging attacks on MO. While we do have automatic defense mechanisms against such attacks, our tools are not well adapted to the methods being used. We're doing our best to handle this behind the scenes. We ask the community to exercise extra vi...

 
user259867
Terror alert level: red
2
 
user259867
Also locked immediately after posting.
 
user202362
1:12 AM
disruptive activities meaning DOS attacks?
 
seems 'impersonation'
 
> If you could add/revise one Stack Overflow policy/guideline, what would you change? Why would you change it, and what would it mean for the community?
Make nano the official SO text editor and ban vim and emacs.
 
:o
@NormalHuman would ask on chat but no mods are there, would ask on meta but apparently they don't want that because lock
 
user259867
You're too anonymous to be asking such things, will get suspended in no time.
 
vim is fine too... that will probably reduce 80% of low-quality post for those who can't use it (like me)... or increase it by 120%.
 
1:17 AM
> In the past few months, there have been a number of trolls who abuse flags, stars, and other worst of all - other members.
Who actually uses stars for anything useful?
4
 
@SantaClaus suspended for insulting vim :P
 
apparently, us :p
look, primaries vote monitors are useful!.. as well as Windows 3.1
 
3 hours ago, by Shog9
...or we could have fun.
 
oooh yeah shog! I am supportive of your good ideas!
 
looks at starboard
 
1:20 AM
@NormalHuman log scale ^
 
user259867
Better. Shows the top three are outliers.
 
@hichris123 Might be better to start the rep axis at 1k or something, so the data points won't be all bunched up.
 
true
 
Interesting. So this isn't a "rep-based election." (Yet.)
 
user202362
Imagine the people with moderator power as hawks, little birds that bred out of control as spams, hawks needs to keep spams in check by deleting the excess of them ... (you need to think abstract while reading that >_< )
 
1:24 AM
There does seem to be a low rep -> low rank correlation though...
 
@Doorknob greater than 20K stops contributing to candidate score
 
Pretty linear there (exponential considering log axis) disregarding 3 outliers.
 
@Shog9 yeah, I think that helps
 
Although the 3 outliers are the top 3. :P
 
Yeah, you can't really disregard the people who are most likely to matter in the outcome :P
 
1:27 AM
can't really toss out too many outliers when there are only 19 datapoints
 
Alright, now I feel like doing this for prior elections.
But first, more homework.
 
Mar 17 at 21:01, by Doorknob
user image
(see surrounding messages for context)
 
If only @Feeds bot was still doing translations I could do my spanish homework here...
 
That's a bit outdated though
 
@Doorknob I meant primaries. I also wonder if primaries are different than elections...
 
user259867
1:29 AM
outliers don't have to be tossed away; they can be classified as another group.
 
user259867
E.g., future mods vs also-rans.
 
@hichris123 ah. We should have stored data over time, to see how stuff changes... :P
Maybe next election.
(anyway, have to go eat)
 
@Doorknob @JasonC? Did you keep the data from last year?
 
What data
 
user259867
Primary votes are still there, stackoverflow.com/election/6?tab=primary
 
1:32 AM
I have lots of data
 
@NormalHuman Saves me from fetching it again though.
Only problem is you'd have to backdate rep with archive.org.
 
Would you like a list of the modulus of elasticity of 536 different species of wood? I have that.
 
Wait, wood has different species?
Eeek. The wood is evolving.
 
Oh I also have a system temperature graph of a lighting control power supply running full power wrapped in two blankets and stuffed in an air tight box. It's exciting.
I have results from bloodwork from 2 months ago too. So much data, man.
 
@JasonC ... why were you doing that?
 
1:35 AM
@hichris123 Wood is tree.
 
Building evidence that their thermal protection system doesn't work.
 
@bjb568 Except it's dead.
 
See J.Musser.
 
@JasonC So how does the graph look at the point where it catches fire? :)
 
@JasonC .... wait wait wait... you put a power supply... in a blanket... when you thought that the thermal protection system wasn't working? Couldn't that have started a fire?
Bah, Ilmari beat me to it.
 
1:37 AM
Well it has remote monitoring. 68C isnt starting any fires. But if it did thatd be great. More evidence.
Plus itd be fun to throw the melted remains of a $2800 power supply in the dumpster.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Javascript skips function by Erinna on stackoverflow.com
 
Anyways the graph doesn't look like anything at that point. The device locked, powered down, but was permanently damaged. So we have a good case but not very spectacular.
 
This message should be shown to new SO users.
 
user259867
1:55 AM
I see that doing (X and Y) is prohibited, but perhaps doing just one of them is okay.
 
When a mod gets a chance, could someone tell me how many deleted questions I have?
 
user259867
Only mods can tell.
 
Oh 10k can't see?
 
user259867
10k users see deleted questions when they navigate to them, but not on a user's profile page.
 
@NormalHuman You mean like "don't drink and drive"? :)
 
user259867
1:56 AM
Yes, like that. One thing at a time.
 
A funny thing I realized recently is that if you delete your own post, it shows up in your profile as a delete vote. And it stays there even if you undelete it again. And, presumably, even if the post later gets deleted again.
So if you just made it a habit to always delete and undelete your posts after submitting them, you'd have a permanent list of every post you ever made on SE, even if they later got deleted.
Not that I'm serious suggesting doing this, but... :)
 
sd why
 
@bwDraco [:4204800] Body - Position 193-206: -recovery.com
 
sd - false-, not obviously spam.
 
@SantaClaus SO: 28, MSE: 2, Pets: 1, probably more elsewhere but it was getting boring.
@IlmariKaronen you can also favorite posts and still see them after deletion if you have 10K+
 
user202362
2:02 AM
@bjb568 go whoring visit whores (prostitutes) ... rules laws
 
And of course, you can use your browser bookmarks to keep track of everything at any rep level
 
@Shog9 Good point, that's actually a bit more practical.
 
user259867
Favoriting doesn't help if it's an answer that gets deleted (while the question stays)
 
user259867
Keeping 2179 bookmarks for my answers on Math would be impractical. Not that I care about those answers to begin with...
 
@chmod666telkitty ...because obviously that's the part of the notice that needs fixing.
 
2:05 AM
Before I zoomed in I thought it said Worm Notice
 
@Shog9 Thanks. Wow thats a lot of SO deleted posts...I wonder what those were all about...
 
that's... not a lot of deleted posts
 
@JasonC I'm pretty sure worms are not sexually transmissible.
...at least I hope not. :p
 
@Shog9 Oh wait so how about just questions on SO. How many of those?
 
Youre lucky I'm on my phone with am inconvenient web browser
 
2:07 AM
 
user202362
I must confess my sins: whenever I think about meat meta & unicorns I think about lamb, beef & pork. I mean after all, it's all about some 4 legged animals & the letters 'm', 'e', 'a' & 't' ...
 
And the massive leap backwards in user interface technology known as a "touch screen"
 
@Shog9 Heh.
 
and that's not even a lot of deleted posts; there's a (rather famous) user with nearly 2000 deleted posts on SO (though for him, that's a small fraction of the total)
 
@chmod666telkitty Team?
 
2:09 AM
@SantaClaus 9
 
Like animals playing sports? Like the puppy bowl??
 
@Shog9 Hmm, how come the "Curious" badge says I don't have a "Positive Question Record"
 
@Shog9 I wish the deleted operator was available for 10k users...
 
user202362
@JasonC tru, tru ... wait, your team consists of 4 legged animals? :p
 
In the puppy bowl it does
 
2:11 AM
72
Q: Enable searching with deleted:1 for 10k users

bfavarettoI just tried to find a recent answer I wrote (or comment, can't remember), but I couldn't. I assume the question was deleted. Can the deleted:1 operator be enabled to 10k users? We can see deleted posts, so why can't we at least target them in search? I understand that allowing us to search for ...

 
dee oh gee eee?
 
In real life I make all subcontractors crawl before me so I guess, yeah
 
It would help a lot with investigating spam rings.
 
@bjb568 doge
 
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
 
2:17 AM
@tchrist Ho ho ho
 
If you saw the world as I do, you'd think it were Christmas too. Wait, you do.
 
@tchrist You legitimately confused me for a good 3 seconds. I actually panicked for a moment and thought I forgot to go home for Xmas.
I must be hungry. I better eat. Peace.
 
@JasonC We've seen the pictures.
ew
wrong winder
 
2:33 AM
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Preventing registered users from sharing passwords by Dr Phira Chuon on security.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu- spam
 
@SmokeDetector Mmm, spam with nuts. :)
 
Flagged, thanks.
 
2:53 AM
Wat nuts?
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector fp-
 
> "My development of a new app is the only way to stopping the problem snip app name mind you it is all copyright any violation will result in a legislative addressed to the court of copyright violation Implementing this will take great and good development and programming Once all passwords are all cluttered with this app opens ask layers combined with all passwords bringing it all into one complete system [...]"
 
Reads like pretty typical crypto nuttery to me.
 
-2
A: Fall 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire

bjb568bjb568's answers A user with less than 2,000 rep is on an edit spree, changing nothing more in all the posts they're editing than one or two small word(s), and their edit is either incomplete or is not an improvement of the post each time. They're up to 45 similar/identical edits in the co...

Is there any logic to votes on questionnaires?
 
user259867
3:05 AM
People vote based on who wrote it, not on what is written.
 
huh…
weird
 
It's popularity contest, in the end.
 
also at the start
pretty much all the way through, really
 
and largely rep based
blames candidate score
 
To be fair, there is a decent correlation between higher rep and higher aptitude to be a mod.
2
 
3:13 AM
@hichris123 it stops at ~20k though
 
@bjb568 holiday? school?
 
(Because that's the highest privilege level.)
 
user259867
Not anymore, actually...
 
not anymore. ;P
 
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE reddit repost :p
 
3:14 AM
oh yeah :P
 
always beat by someone today....
 
for new 200-rep user: look for highest rep!
for chatroom regular: look for whom I know!
 
Very accurate
 
come to think of it... I haven't voted yet.
 
3:20 AM
Damn a light just blew
status-fixing-later
 
user259867
You only need 150 rep to vote in mod election.
 
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE aah, the present progressive in the future-maybe tense
 
...
My chrome is rendering things funny
Somehow it's giving me the mobile emulator
 
3:38 AM
['2'] / 2
returns 1. Wut
 
['2'] casted to a string is 2 (arr.join(','))
"2" as a number is 2
2 / 2 == 1
 
user259867
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Q: Can "casted" be the past tense of "cast"?

Essen'The Hindu,' an Indian daily, reports: Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitely casted his vote at Chimanbhai Patel Institute opposite Karnavati club. Does the verb cast has a form as casted?

 
psshhh
it's a participle anyway
 
user259867
Yes, but it's still an irregular verb.
 
user259867
Cast, cast, cast.
 
3:45 AM
I don't think that applies for the programming definition of "cast"
 
@NormalHuman hit, put, shut, cut
 
... my brain stumbled over that quite a few times before reading it correctly
 
Lol
Go find some brain supplement spam to try and help your brain :P
 
@Doorknob So you're saying it's got two participles, sort of like "hang"?
 
!!/findBrainSupplementSpam
 
3:53 AM
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE I heard this one really nice place for stuff like that
+98-917387183 or something
I should try calling them
 
Lol
@bjb I'll also use your password strength thing with a link ok?
 
@IlmariKaronen uhh, I'm just saying I've never heard "this variable was cast to <foo>" in a programming context before
 
@Doorknob Rather than ...?
 
// this variable was casted to <type>
or something like that
 
You can't say that.
 
3:56 AM
I can. I just did. :P
 
user259867
Full statement was "you can't say that and live".
 
I'm pretty sure I'm alive...
 
have bet, let, set -- but have fretted, jetted, vetted, got, gotten. wet can go both ways.
 
English is weird
 
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE sure!
@Doorknob bjblang FTW!
The tavern should seriously get together and video chat with us all masquerading with masks of our avatars and actually design bjblang 1.0 by committee. Just for fun.
That'd be awesome.
 
awesome boring
 
^
 
:p
 
status-gotta-go-soon
 
we can debate jQuery too while we're at it
 
4:03 AM
!bjb translate to bjblang
 
DD doesn't use jQuery. Bad Good
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Would I recommend thing? by maureen bond on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
 
Debating vanilla JS with bjb over a text chatroom is bad enough...
 
@SmokeDetector THING! It's back!
 
4:03 AM
It's a trap!
 
@AndrewT. ah, bjbotling got shut down due to maintenance costs vs disuse
 
disuse...
 
bjbotling sounds like it's illegal in Texas.
 
Lots of things are illegal in Texas. Like education.
 
/me lives in Texas ;(
 
How much time do you guys spend in school in a day on average
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Copy Contacts from Blackberry Touch to Galaxy S3 without google sync by Perterjeous on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.)
 
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE the same as any other state...
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to enable usb debugging by Perterjeous on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.)
 
@Doorknob Which is?
 
@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE ~7 hours?
 
user259867
12-14 hours.
 
So we're around the same
 
4:10 AM
!!/report failed spam seed on answer stackoverflow.com/a/33718839/2821954
 
@AndrewT. That does not look like a valid post URL.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to find and turn on USB debugging mode on Nexus 4 by Perterjeous on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Dry Skin Relief When To Use It And Cream by Faneogreyi on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
 
School day:
10m: ramblings and politics and lateness
40m: singing
5m: walking and sitting
5m: listening to the principle talk to himself
50m: chemistry, but study hall most days
5m: walking and sitting
50m: "computer" "science" "class", but study hall all days
35m: waking and sitting and some eating
5m: holy crap is there another vocab test?
45m: quality english education
5m: walking and sitting
50m: hey, I have an actual study hall too? sweet. I'll go spend it in the library with the wet bathroom pass
or, if no club on that day, sub the activity for a 30m walking and bus ride, 30m panera and walking, and 55m Stats class
 
4:14 AM
Wow
Your's is more interesting than mine
 
user259867
Is Stats on UC campus?
 
yup
 
Pushes to GH and goes
 
4:29 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: When potential depend upon final result? by user309584 on meta.stackexchange.com
 
Hmm, # of questions one vote from the 9 day roomba seems to be less than I remembered: stackoverflow.com/….
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What Are the causes of appropriate product? by user309584 on stackoverflow.com
 
Has someone been feeding the roomba? @NormalHuman?
 
user259867
Not me. (Not on SO, that is)
 
lol, it's fun to try to maximize the unreadability with readability-score.com
I got to "40 years of education" needed to understand.
to extricate meaning from the presented mess, which is conveyed in an entangled state…
 
user259867
4:35 AM
@hichris123 Replacing answers:0 with isanswered:no hasaccepted:0 brings up a lot more such questions.
 
Ah, that's it
I was thinking 365 day roomba
 
user259867
Then closed:1 is not needed.
 
user259867
 
I meant that I was mixing the two's rules.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Skin And Natural Facials Cleansers by benderhill on security.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
4:40 AM
I usually add some keyword to the attribute search, "please" and "appreciated" work well for selecting worthless questions.
 
user259867
Relevance search takes into account the post length; the top ones are those that have little but pleas for help.
 
sd tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Can just take and ride around by Jewel Coburn on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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Q: Starting out in the world of programming

Luke FaccioniG'day folks. Being new to the website I hope to god not all of my questions have already been answered but here goes anyways! I've tried several times before to get into programming. But I always fall short because I fail to see results or because I find it too hard. So what are some of your te...

Hasn't been deleted in 2 years. :(
 
4:50 AM
@hichris123 That's a rare sighting of a 'total meh'
No velocity in any direction, whatsoever. Evades both queues and roombas
 
user259867
That's a rare sighting of Tim Post in the Tavern.
 
Thought to be nocturnal, though this is unconfirmed.
 
@hichris123 It had a positive score until just now (wonder what happened? :) ). I delete-voted it. ETA: So did Tim.
 
I forgot the view count on it... I'm assuming quite low as well?
 
user259867
@hichris123 Doesn't matter now. :)
 
4:52 AM
:)
 
Are you really asking for a gem? Because the implementation of a fully functional web application is generally not what gems are used for. — Mark Thomas Jul 19 '11 at 2:21
 
@NormalHuman 160 times. 2/3 of that probably on the day it was asked.
 
user259867
That said, for closed questions view count is not taken into account by Roomba.
 
Well, probably like 150 something since 2013 until it was linked here.
@NormalHuman Would have to exclude a list of niche tags if views were used as a significant weight when it decides on what to kill
 
4:54 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: What is Game Cheet? by JohnKinney on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Reduce numbness and tingling pain with nerventrax by beulturner on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
 
user259867
sd 4tpu- The last one is a gem.
 
You can only taxes once every five minutes, everyone knows that.
 
Browsing through the 1-score almost 9 day roomba eligible questions shows some real meh questions... some half decent, but most meh.
 
I tried to embrace the meh, but it didn't have any arms, and such a low level of reciprocal body heat that I can only describe as uncomfortable.
3
 
I'm fine with a low level of reciprocal body heat…
 
4:59 AM
On the other hand... there are some real gems.
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A: How actually implement HTML and CSS?

Python-I usually get drunk. Say f**k this! and then smash my PC. But, if you really want to learn, then what I did was: always when I stumbled upon a problem, I immediately googled it. For example - "css align element to center". The internet is loaded with solutions to these problems and usually the ve...

 
But hands are a must for me.
And arms. Oh, arms are almost as good as legs!
Don't even get me started with the shear strength of legs.
They have sheer… strength!
Quite a symbol too.
Night!
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body: You should plan enough time to prepare your hair by henrybrock on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: People we have on our experts by quinnhdf on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Ringing %uh and I'm the body close the by sdfgdgsdh on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
 
%uh, interesting. Seems to be a bug in the spambot's code.
sd 3trueu-
 
user259867
Yes, a commonly seen what.
 
user259867
!!/test something with %uh
 
5:13 AM
> Would not be caught for title, body and username.
 
!!/test %uh
 
> Would not be caught for title, body and username.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, black magic in body, phone number detected in title: MasTer Of ReSuMiNG BoY__GiRL::91-9829791419~!~!LoVE$VasHikArAN#specialist molvi ji by haji21m on webapps.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
I thought it was blacklisted.
 
user259867
!!/test yes, %uh is blacklisted but with spaces around it to prevent false positives.
 
> Would not be caught for title, body and username.
 
user259867
5:16 AM
Oh, I'm an idiot.
 
@NormalHuman It's caught. There are bugs in the !!/test code.
Saw it when chasing down "Black magic".
 
user259867
Hm. I thought it was because I put spaces around it and then put on the list wrapped in \b...
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
Title - Position 8-13: %uh
Body - Position 8-13: %uh
 
user259867
Mystery solved... where's the bug though?
 
5:20 AM
Didn't finish tracking that one down. More shiny things to chase... :)
Basically, things like %uh are caught but test says not.
!!/test hey %uh, you!
 
> Would not be caught for title, body and username.
 
user259867
That one would not match anyway because of the surrounding spaces in the keyword.
 
Huh? The post has spaces.?.
 
user259867
The post does, "hey %uh, you!" does not
 
!!/test hey %uh , you!
 
5:24 AM
> Would not be caught for title, body and username.
 
Does too (now) :P
!!/test Black magic
 
> Black magic in body, black magic in title, black magic in username
----------
Title - Position 1-12: Black magic
Username - Position 1-12: Black magic
Body - Position 1-12: Black magic
 
Something about the keywords array, IIRC.
 
5:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: you have enhance brain performance by Liopnm Pk on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
 
sd trueu-
90 flags left on Super User.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Check out that book but not by debrakhan on drupal.stackexchange.com
 

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