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[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Life planets orbiting black-holes. Can/Do they really exist? by bruhhh on astronomy.stackexchange.com
 
12:47 AM
 
yay atom!
 
... that's VS.
 
@hichris123 What's "CostanzaWallet"? ;)
 
1:04 AM
@SantaClaus shrug This was from an SE employee's tweet.
 
It's probably something with just a ton of stuff in it. You did see that "Seinfeld" episode with George's wallet, right?
 
Death to mornings
 
1:26 AM
@hichris123 same thing
 
 
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2:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: How do I create a link using javascript? by Be Smile on stackoverflow.com
 
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3:47 AM
bored
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[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: How to remove 'safefinder' from windows 8? by stiles on stackoverflow.com
 
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4:12 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Lose Your Weight Naturally by boriszink on askubuntu.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Does this thing Have Any Side Effects? by robbiebigsbyjaqj on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What Are Valuable Ingredients in This thing? by robbiebigsbyjaqj on meta.stackexchange.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skincare 5 Tips To Enhance A Girl'S Skin by user53938 on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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4:42 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body: mind which in this way makes electronic? by user308764 on meta.stackexchange.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Bloated Belly And thin snappier Naturally by garyfrey on askubuntu.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Become Slim, Trim and Healthy by garyfrey on math.stackexchange.com
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body: nutrition and minerals by mrijuriyum on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
5:00 AM
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5:22 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best HADOOP Online Training by user5523167 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Drop Skin Care Strategies For Fatty Skin by user517603 on superuser.com
 
5:38 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: Maintain a healthy prostrate with prost8 plus by jaipidgen on superuser.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Sure Wapiti no aired because by JenniferGee on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: There which is created by the epidermis by dorisaham on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Testamatol Golden Rules To Make A Man Notice And Want You by emmelinemadeline on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What is skinception Cream? How is it use? by Ribonwalk on superuser.com
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6:05 AM
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@JamesENL I've only posted 1 messages since the latest reboot; that's not enough to execute all commands.
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: Blue jayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyy by Sunil on codereview.stackexchange.com
 
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6:18 AM
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[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in body, repeating words in body: \\include new line in text area using codeigniter by Toni Obice on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: An awesome gathering serving of mixed greens by LindacClellan on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: How to express the Black Derman & Toy Model in a $dr=A\\,dt+B\\, dW$ form? by Tulio Carnelossi on quant.stackexchange.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Attractive territories to buy cream? by rolamdjgdhjuriyam on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What is cream created Eye Gel? by rolamdjgdhjuriyam on stackoverflow.com
 
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6:37 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Skin Care Products From Skinceutical by user53949 on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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> I know that's what's going to give them the longevity in New that's the key word is but in that industry man longevity is the key like they're not just one their Super Bowl Wrestle Mania is on a Sunday and that's the biggest show they all goal out you know put their body on the line beat
what poetry
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[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Wha is The best ways to use Tru Belleza Serum? by Jean Robinson on superuser.com
 
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6:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in title, url in title: http://supermusclesbuild.com/optimind/ by margaweed on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Haskell Error: Non type-variable argument in the constraint: Num (a -> a -> a -> a) by Salmon Wu on stackoverflow.com
 
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A: 3d model design software

Jorge SantosBeing a "geek" is just to know how to use google. - Hey google Hello user, i am google - Can you find me 3D modeling software? Sure here you go

It lacks a chorus...but it's good :D
 
wha......
how did that get no downvotes
 
Hi, @Infinite. :)
 
@AlexisKing Hiya :)
 
6:56 AM
Seems slow in here lately. :s
 
Yes, few left, others are silent :/
 
Now I feel guilty for forsaking the Holy Land! D:
 
It's good to see you again :D
 
You, too. :3
 
6:59 AM
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Testamatol Is More Than Positive Thinking! by sarahkatie on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: How to Tighten Loose Skin After Weight Loss by user53955 on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
7:31 AM
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7:56 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: where to go haha wrong of morrow with by Kacosliu Pk on superuser.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: A not some individual I support individual per ship I'll are by user4296 on craftcms.stackexchange.com
 
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8:23 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Realizing The Skin Types For Skin Care by dannycmeyers on superuser.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Difference between '{}' and {} in find command? by user517656 on superuser.com
 
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8:43 AM
That user has already deleted their self?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: Can Lumonol Boost your concentrating power? by colesdoleis on askubuntu.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How Can You Identify the Best Anti-aging Cream by williamtatums on security.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Certainly experience desirable result by dorafnaus jexpr on askubuntu.com
 
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:)
 
8:55 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: SmsMessage.createFromPdu is deprecated in android API level 23 by sky on stackoverflow.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Optimization of Bottle Rocket Water Level by Bitch Nigger on physics.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW ARE USE THIS SITE? by mari juriyum on superuser.com
 
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2. [:4149183] Blacklisted user.
 
9:22 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Cause of buoyant force? by user97573 on physics.stackexchange.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: what product Reviews By Other Customers? by stevendjuriya on stackoverflow.com
 
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@balpha - just to know, a friend of mine wants to perform some test on an application he is developing. What was the collation you were using that caused the "ᔕᖺᘎᕊ bug"?
 
9:43 AM
"a friend" ... "some test" ... what are you trying to do @Derpy?
 
@Bart He is working on a decision support app in an oversea company after he moved there. He just want to see if he can reproduce that search bug in that app
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Neurocell is a dietary supplement that helps to uplift your brain power by samuelmccloud on superuser.com
 
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@Bart that said, I am pretty curios too, since it doesn't seem to be the default Latin one.
 
9:51 AM
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@vaultah [:4149230] Title - Position 35-36: 普
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Creating Natural Acne Remedy Work! by exalieli on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
10:06 AM
@Derpy see this query
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Is it good cream for Skin? by DennisSiems on superuser.com
 
user202362
anyone else had problem loading the SE chat pages for the past 2-3 hours?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: The Ideal Skin With Splendor Treatments by stevnutt on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Can Your Life Be Affected By Acne? by dellaritsche on security.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: This can help you build muscle while avoiding injury by TraverVansickle on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: After suspicious review by pauletta meskespzl on superuser.com
 
10:35 AM
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@chmod666telkitty This chat and SO chat worked for me, nothing unusual happened
 
10:46 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Along with the provision of radiant and younger look by Dhoomm on askubuntu.com
 
user202362
@rene took me ... 1 minute, no ... 5 minutes before it timed out :/ ... yes just SE when I am not using tor, because the chat page just loaded fine on tor
 
@chmod666telkitty I hadn't, but my chatbots had some timeouts, though.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: INFORMATICA Online Training IN INDIA by snehitha12 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: vim snippets giving crap lines when called by BaRud on stackoverflow.com
 
@chmod666telkitty and if you try over https?
 
11:17 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: you buddy andthat time period by Kacosliu Pk on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: What really allows them to melt Testamatol by tasha25 on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How To Use Legal Steroids To Enhance Muscles mass? by user308788 on meta.stackexchange.com
 
11:33 AM
Can we send out a Search and Rescue party for @chmod666telkitty ?
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user202362
It's all working fine now
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Injections or cosmetic surgery by user5524437 on stackoverflow.com
 
@chmod666telkitty OK :D
 
user202362
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11:55 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO FORGET SOMEONE WHOM U LOVE.? by Shweeta Sharma on stackoverflow.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Attractive territories to buy cream? by hirscbond on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: BEST SAP FICO ONLINE TRAINING by raghu89 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: The anti-wrinkle product may have natural ingredients by Dorothyaton on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: cannot find symbol System.console().readInt(); by Lexhanatin on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in title, url in title: Dr.Oz's Choice Bellesse | nationalfitnesspoint.com/bellesse by kolioehiuy on meta.stackexchange.com
 
1:07 PM
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@YummyUnicornRainbowTails I don't have any messages posted after the latest reboot.
 
Yes?
 
Wat
@BART IS A GOD!!!!!!!
 
How is that surprising?
 
1:09 PM
Runs
Runs to the right
@Bart you run this site?
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Q: Contest for an Image for our blender nation article

DavidBart, who runs blendernation.com, has agreed to run an article when our site graduates. All articles have a featured image; we need one. So this is a call for artwork. The size for featured image on an article is 728px wide by 336px tall. There is no set theme (as I have no idea what should g...

 
Nope, different Bart
 
One of his many socks
 
1:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to access a motion sensor using a raspberry pi? by Ankush Sharma on stackoverflow.com
 
Still glasses though, so it is a genuine Bart.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Self- Balancing Robot MPU6050 by Ankush Sharma on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: [VERTEX COVER NP COMPLETE] by penguina on math.stackexchange.com
 
Why fi is slow?
 
Is that vertex thingy using some fancy math script or does it try to use mathjax?
 
1:20 PM
vertex thingy?
 
@Bart this one but it was mathjax
In edit mode I was confused ...
 
Ah
 
I had a bad dream last night. I was typing up a clickbait news article about a crap science paper for my history teacher, and in the font I was using italic "a"s looked like alphas.
 
I had one too... there was a toast with @bjb568 head flying in the night sky, leaving a rainbow colored trail behind it.
 
1:33 PM
Voldermort?
 
I had a nightmare ... no messages from @Bart at the starboard. Oh wait, that is reality...
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That is not my fault @rene. And the consequences are also not for me.
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:D
 
1:49 PM
!!/blame
 
@DroidDev It's DroidDev's fault.
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._.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Where is bash's history stored? by ur mum on unix.stackexchange.com
 
Well, there you go then. Thank you very much @DroidDev.
 
fears the smiting stick
 
1:53 PM
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@SmokeDetector For once, it isn't my fault.
 
The Bob Ross Twitch stream is just hilarious
 
Chatters commenting as if it's gameplay
 
gehhhh... another site to avoid when reading security articles.
Can anyone spot the virus the article is referencing?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Ali Baba collects coins by Levon Sach on stackoverflow.com
 
2:32 PM
the exploit?
assuming trojan!=virus
 
@Braiam assumed right. The problem is that it came from an article which was supposed to be talking about the differences.
 
2:49 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Turn phone on with ADB or Fastboot? by Murthy on android.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: How to write a python program to calculate average number? by bob on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: How to edit the size of the submit button on a form? by salman on stackoverflow.com
 
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3:22 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Google Groups Email: Reply to author, and let other group members see reply by sta2019 on webapps.stackexchange.com
 
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@SmokeDetector who let the cat out?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: The active ingredients of this product by sheliakrum on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
3:43 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Removing the body content of emails when I compose a reply by enlaniebla on webapps.stackexchange.com
 
@Derpy eww, this is so simple
 
@bjb568 also, the page used the spam mail to support the idea of "how easy is to get viruses"
 
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DELETE THIS POST by Onelineareye on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Creating a Navigation Bar FIXED on the top of screen by sss on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: A summer house, a cottage or a cabin? by user145889 on english.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected in title: uae !@!@ +91-8696823273 Love marriage specialist baba ji All India canada,uk by grhgq1 on webapps.stackexchange.com
 
4:18 PM
baba is back
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bye baba
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, email in answer: Best build for pure caster by luka on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
> i am not interest in your money
awful persistent for a guy who isn't interested in money
 
> Even if I take it I will act disinterested.
 
4:36 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHERE DOES MY DS RECORD ORIGINATE FROM? by paul on serverfault.com
 
4:46 PM
@SmokeDetector remove
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5:00 PM
Today's xkcd comic (Water Delivery):
 
awesome title
 
5:53 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Hackintosh-Graphics GraphicsEnabler=0 by shinchan on stackoverflow.com
 
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@ProgramFOX [:4151254] Body - Position 122-125: fag
 
pretty sure he means "boot flag"...
but off-topic anyway
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Juvacell Pro Skin Therapy is the by denrryjahony on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
6:31 PM
@SmokeDetector hehe
@JamesENL You can say that again. .__.
 
I don't know how I feel about this: stackoverflow.com/users/5526013/taggerbot?tab=profile
Thoughts?
I'm particularly torn because it's just adding tags - so the review queue is filling up with automated retags on a bunch of crap questions that should just be closed.
 
Oh, it's probably Art's!
@mikeTheLiar IIRC it's illegal.
 
So it's a known bot but it's not allowed?
 
No, I mean the act of writing bots to flag or edit or whatever is illegal, even though it helps moderation.
But I'm not sure . . . Ask on meta or the other meta.
 
Evening
Yep, my bot.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. There is precedent; there's an edit-bot on Mathematics
 
6:42 PM
@ArtOfCode he might need tweaking: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/10095828
 
@mikeTheLiar Should be perfectly legal - if it's really bad at what it does, it'll get edit banned
Just review like it were a normal person
 
Okay, fine with me
I just didn't know if there was a policy or not, I was on the fence.
 
@mikeTheLiar I'm deliberately not reviewing its edits because it's my bot, but if I were, I'd approve that edit.
There are some instances where it's inaccurate, but it's not too bad.
 
[templates] is a bad tag period
 
6:43 PM
In testing, I would have done 90-95% of its suggestions myself.
 
@Undo agreed
Basically any tag that starts with "this could be many things!" should DIAF
 
(which if you like stats, is greater than the average edit approve rate, which is just over 80%.)
 
specially when the question has nothing to do with them
 
@Braiam yeah, it just added that tag to a JS question
 
Taggerbot is Turd-polishing. Mythbusters did a thing that yes in fact you can polish turds, however, I'm leaning toward discouraging Taggerbot since it's taking crap artifacts on stackoverflow, and making them look a little better.
 
6:45 PM
@EricLeschinski that was my big issue
Most of the questions it's retagging are just crap
 
@EricLeschinski If that's an issue, limit it to posts where score >= x
 
@Undo appears to be the ideas man
I can do that easily enough
 
Bringing crappy posts up to a tolerable level is not a recipe for the best site on the internet, it's better to take crappy posts, and delete them, and wait for a great answer to come along.
 
What if tagging that crap correctly brings it to the attention of someone who can salvage it?
[android] people are unlikely to be able to salvage an incorrectly tagged iOS question, [ios] people are much more likely to
 
Android people are unlikely to be able to salvage a correctly tagged Android question
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6:51 PM
I believe it's legal, though how useful it is currently leaves plenty of room for debate.
 
The power of the tag system comes from the words being targeted and well-placed by intelligent agents who know how a specific question through the Google AI search window can be tracked to the right answer. The taggerbot adding thesaurous words, and adding tags like; "Camera" to questions involving a camera are not going to be adding a great amount of value at best. At worst it will be adding lots of meaningless noise.
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by Undo
I think that the suggested edit queue is a great place for stuff like this
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by Undo
If it breaks, there's minimal damage
 
From what I've seen, Google really doesn't care that much about tagging
@EricLeschinski Then we should kill those tags.
 
Prepare to receive boarders: I've just linked this discussion on Meta SO.
 
Batten down the hatches!!!
 
6:57 PM
Grind the axes and free the pitchforks!
 
lol. Taggerbot added: "Camera" when there was already a more specific Tag: "Android-camera". I see this as a bad thing. Why not add a tag for "Phones" and "handheld computing systems" and perhaps even "android" and "Photographs" and "grapics"? Drawing the line on unnecessary tagging should be just enough for an intelligent agent to quickly get everything they need. There doesn't need to be a tree linking back to the entire semantic network structure of what kind of question this is.
Although maybe that kind of thing is the next-generation of question-answer website systems. A tree structure linking every word to every other word, and an associated tree for how they relate to the others, I work on this kind of thing in my AI class on semantic networks for lexigraphical parsing of sentences.
 
Is the source code for Taggerbot available?
 
It claims to be but there's no link in it's profile
There's just a bullet that says "My source code"
 
7:02 PM
@mikeTheLiar not enough rep for links, I guess
 
@ProgramFOX Thanks, I'm looking at the code now.
 
@mikeTheLiar Aye, low-rep.
 
@ProgramFOX does that restriction apply to your profile as well? I didn't know that
 
As one of the most active edit reviewers, I'm wary of bots that make edits. But they are not necessarily bad.
 
Although it makes sense
 
7:04 PM
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A: Is TaggerBot a good idea?

UndoMy take on it: treat this thing like it's a human. Is the edit good? Approve it. Bad? Reject it. There's a good chance that this becomes useful - but that can't happen if we shut it down. Let people experiment, as long as they aren't breaking things. We have a guy who figured out how to automat...

 
@Undo I have flagged several bad reviewers, most of these flags have been pending for days... some for weeks.
 
@S.L.Barth They'll get handled eventually
 
yesterday, by Braiam
keyword being: eventually :P
 
Custom flags are hard to handle, especially at SO volumes
 
@S.L.Barth the SO flag queue has 2.7k+ flags in it right now.
there's a bit of a backlog
 
7:07 PM
@Undo if the review queues are being flooded by a human adding tags of questionable value while leaving a bunch of stuff that should be fixed that's not exactly a great situation either
So yeah, if this was a human I'd probably tell it to stop what it's doing
 
I understand the backlog, and bad edits are not the biggest problem we face.
Still, this means that finding bad reviewers isn't the problem - handling them is.
 
@mikeTheLiar I keep hearing that argument... and it isn't holding water for me. (1) There's a limit to how many suggestions one can have in that queue anyway, and (2) This at least gets that stuff in front of a few people. They should improve them. If reviewers don't, there's a decent chance that someone that sees them on the front page will. Net gain overall
I used to like making those kind of ideological arguments, but then I realized we're trying to run a real site, in real life
 
@Undo also valid
 
sd gone
 
"laughing cookies" Appropriate username there
 
7:12 PM
There are some real gems that come through in Smokey
 
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A: Is TaggerBot a good idea?

AndyThe API is there to be utilized. There are write capabilities via the API. The API is being used in many applications. It even has end points to edit questions, see suggested edits and issue flags. The question on whether or not this is welcome is more complicated. Beginning with the ever releva...

 
@ArtOfCode Taggerbot only looking at the top tags and related tags seems a sensible restriction. Probably need to be careful around the "related" tags too.
 
@S.L.Barth "related" tags is defined by SE themselves. It's a straight API response.
 
I'm still looking at the code and algorithm, but I've seen many fresh SO editors adding in broad tags - tags that should be burninated, not added to posts.
 
7:19 PM
@ArtOfCode Thanks. I think it would be useful to check if there's a "DO NOT USE" in the tag description.
 
@S.L.Barth Aye, could be.
That would be fairly easy.
 
@ArtOfCode, I haven't looked at the related tags api end point. Does it provide you with the ability to do combinations of tags? Or only one at a time? Can you filter out tags that have over X question (possibly allowing you to filter out overly broad tags like 'image' or 'file')
 
@Andy I believe I do all 4 tags at once. So the tags returned should be related to all 4.
4's the limit, annoyingly.
It's /2.2/tags/{tags}/related
 
A requirement of a robot is that it doesn't waste resources. In this case, the edit review queue is a finite resource of programmer's time and good will. When you submit hundreds of tag edits adding things like "camera" when tags such as "android-camera" already exist in the thread, you are burdening a person with good will who wants to edit the site, and filling his monitor full of irrelevance, scaring away that potential good-editor from the site. Unless you can get your approval rate for edits consistently over 60%. Right now it looks like it's under 40% approval rate. — Eric Leschinski 1 min ago
^^^ Only, I'd want it to be a lot closer to 100% approval and demonstrably improve the question more often than not.
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@JonEricson but then, where that put humans? :P
 
7:29 PM
@JonEricson 40% is pretty good for something that's been alive <24hours
 
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@Undo Maybe. But automations should be held to a much higher standard than humans. Humans have the ability to learn from failure.
 
Agree
 
So no machine learning implemented on taggerBot? It's relying entirely on predetermined heuristics?
 
:(
sadpanda is sad
 
7:38 PM
It would be interesting if it also could learn from failure, but that's going to require more code.
And there are still many poor edits that get accepted, so using edit rejections is a poor measuring device.
Not entirely useless, but poor.
 
yeah, the integrity of the training data is in question (since suggested edit reviewers are highly variable)
 
That could perhaps be solved with hand-sampled training sets.
 
who would build the data sets? It's not like we collectively agree on good tag-only edits.
Worth looking into, but that's a challenge in itself.
 
@ryanyuyu For this I built the training set myself. It's built to flag how I'd flag.
 
7:47 PM
That seems fair enough.
 
Repeatedly submitting tag edit suggestions constitutes abuse for both humans and bots. It's not helpful and all of these edits should be rejected as no improvement whatsoever. Suggested edits must substantially improve multiple aspects of a post, as explained by the editing help. — bjb568 2 mins ago
I don't think it's possible to make a helpful suggested edit bot.
 
@bjb568 IIRC @YummyUnicornRainbowTails tried.
 
I'm also particularly annoyed by tag-only edit suggestions with a few notable exceptions.
 
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@ryanyuyu The one thing worse than a bad tag-only edit, is an edit that introduces errors. At least Taggerbot isn't doing that....
I'm wary of Taggerbot, but I'm willing to consider it an experiment, see if it works. As @Undo suggests in his answer on MSO.
 
7:56 PM
IIRC there were cries to shut Smokey down in the early days. Just saying.
@bjb568 Except good tagging is improvement, otherwise we should just shut down tagging.
 
@Undo O_o Why that?
 
I want to see approval rates above 80%. And more importantly, I'd rather have these suggestions spread out more evenly and properly throttled to prevent flooding the review queue.
 
@ProgramFOX There were concerns about concerted flagging or something like that
 
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