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6:12 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Are 95% of Ashley Madison dating site's accounts male? by John Acosta on skeptics.stackexchange.com
 
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@SmokeDetector naa/vlq/something
 
@SmokeDetector Dear diary
 
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I don't like the commas in stackoverflooooooow logo... should have used thin space separators.
 
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Commas in a logo never work, whatever the purpose.
 
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Q: Oh sweet, sweet distration... [Hot Network Questions]

LyallThis is my first question on meta so please be gentle... I can't count the number of times that I've been looking for a question that I can helpfully contribute an answer toward or an answer to something I'm working on and ended up reading about why cyclists land rear wheel first or about the ad...

Pretty nice for a first meta post!
 
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6:24 PM
I think the question rate frozen at 2.7 questions/minute is an API bug. Post on Stack Apps or Meta? Probably Stack Apps.
 
@NormalHuman What if it's 2.701 at one minute and 2.789 at the other? Is the value truncated or rounded?
 
Who's got the Stack Exchange app on iOS that can create a screenshot for me? I'm looking for a screenshot of the comment autocomplete described by Anna here so that I can compare it to the lack of autocomplete on android as seen here
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Or a rolling average over a longer period of time
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What is the better form to animate on Unity 3D? by filran on stackoverflow.com
 
Could be.
 
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@SmokeDetector ignore- but closable
 
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6:28 PM
It's an average, but a wrong average. There is no period of time that justifies returning this low rate for 24+ hours.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Calling a function from query criteria by Jim Snyder on stackoverflow.com
 
SO has kindly provided endless hours of empty, soul-draining procrastination. Thank you! #SOreadytohelp https://stackoverflow.com/users/560648/lightness-races-in-orbit
lol LRiO is just great
 
@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ Thanks! I've even got an answer, although it will require me to go to the appstore.
Going to see about my Mac problem tomorrow when I'm back at work.
 
6:48 PM
Oh noes! Hacked by some random group, they must be proud...they can post an answer.
 
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@Andy Were there any script tags in the post? I got to it too late to see the source.
 
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... and that answer counts toward 16M or whatever figure is cited on that page. Well, it counted until it was deleted.
 
@NormalHuman Ah. Yes, there is quiet a bit in there that I didn't think to look at.
 
@S.L.Barth Welcome! :) Hope it works for you in the end! :)
 
We'll see tomorrow, I guess. I do have a new lead, at least.
 
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7:06 PM
> Over the next two weeks, I will be opening some discussion posts with the 10m-questions-milestone tag attached inviting all of you to reflect upon the interesting experiences you've had on the site. We'll probably also paint some pictures, elect a manager to be sabotaged Cutthroat Kitchen style, re-write some really bad songs from the 80s and whatever else we cook up.
 
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Thanks for the warning, Tim. Added the tag to ignored.
 
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> I have over 9000 helpful flags in only 15 months of joining. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say aside from random facts. #SOreadytohelp -- Unihedron at 10:03 AM - 20 Aug 2015 via Twitter
 
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A: How is the "times a developer found your solutions here" figure calculated?

CRABOLOAccording to this query in SEDE (that doesn't include deleted questions) the total number of views is 14,932,504,077. The data was last updated Sunday, so there is about 4 days of views that would need to be added to it. Taking 14,932,504,077 DIVIDED BY 2 , gives us 7,466,252,038.5 So I'd say t...

 
9000? Seriously, or is that a DBZ reference?
 
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@S.L.Barth 9110 as of now
 
7:16 PM
Amazing.
The 10.000th helpful flag should also be celebrated.
Maybe by allowing them to ritually sacrifice a spammer :-)
 
@S.L.Barth Unihedron gets very disappointed if the only thing left for him to do is answer the %@#$& question....
 
@rene LOL
 
@rene foo off? :)
 
The discussion about that post will be foo bar :-)
 
7:25 PM
@CRABOLO yeah, couldn't come up with something better...
 
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The front page of codeproject.com says (66,931 online) vs the cited 51,000 figure for SO.
 
7:40 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Windows 10 and pip upgrading - Access denied by FalloutBoy on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@S.L.Barth Body - Position 800-807: fucking
 
Oh, it's already edited out.
 
fixed from the SOCVR room
 
@rene redundant room room broom vroom
 
7:53 PM
> We'll probably also paint some pictures
yay
> elect a manager to be sabotaged Cutthroat Kitchen style
also good.
 
8:09 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: How to extract numbers from duplicates and text by Sophia Liu on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector That's one clear question.
 
Which shows exactly zero effort of trying to solve it for themselves. DV.
 
@SmokeDetector ignore edited
 
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
 
> Ten. Million. Questions. Let's celebrate all we've done together.
> 733. Pages. Of. John. Let's celebrate all we've done together.
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
8:38 PM
@Andy I'd have it if I didn't delete all my sucky apps
 
@bjb568 You're a Mac user?
 
Who screwed with SO's design now, celebrating an arbitrary marker of quantity over quality?
 
Quantity is what you hate, not the rest of the internet.
They look from afar and utter holy mother of nature! 10M questions!
 
It's just a reason for a little party
 
Having too many "o"s in the logo is neither clever nor original, the system message background interferes with the "celebration" text, and the link leads to a page with a cached number of "solutions" found.
 
8:43 PM
They don't really care if the questions are graffiti or real ones.
 
We're celebrating the fundamental problem with the closing system: Closed questions are not deleted.
We're celebrating that the moderation load is too big to handle.
We're celebrating that poor asking behavior is rewarded.
 
Oooh drama. POPCORN I DEMAND
 
We're celebrating that the rep system only succeeds at encouraging creating a lot of crap, with no regard to post quality.
 
To be fair, @bjb568 has a point.
 
We're celebrating the ozone layer's destruction.
 
8:46 PM
But we can complain about on Meta, the next time someone posts another "you're so mean to newbies!!!"
 
We're celebrating the inevitable death of the site with even the simplest metric used on A51, A:Q ratio, is so crappy right now SO would not graduate.
We're celebrating that SO is a forum.
 
My point is, 90% of the people who are celebrating already know most of this.
 
/rant
or maybe not
 
Yes @bjb568, just </rant>
Please.
 
We're celebrating that the experts that we managed to capture work to create content that will help only the newbie asker, not anyone else who cannot even decipher what the idiot is saying, who in their incompetence cannot even copy-paste the spoon-fed code into their editor and make something work.
We're celebrating that this site is home to people who can only get paid if we do their work for them.
 
8:51 PM
We're celebrating that we have such wonderful opportunities to gain the Steward Badge for Close Votes.
 
We're celebrating that we are so opposed to deletion that there is still no functional recommend deletion flag, edit queue, or new post queue.
 
@bjb big site will require more crap, always.
 
We're celebrating that the numbers go up despite this, that people, hooked to the rep system, will still crank out crap fixmycode reqs that get quickly answered
 
I've long been looking at how SO handles these things.
 
8:52 PM
Simply because only 1% of the apple in the world is actually favorably edible.
 
... who gave bjb a soapbox?
 
@hichris123 He brought it himself.
 
Every now and then the moderators quietly celebrate 0 flags.
 
@JonEricson I imagine that is a rare occurence!
 
Every few months, I think.
 
8:54 PM
We're celebrating that all that we go against — poor quality, debug requests, rep whoring, reviewing for badges, and not spending the time away from the addiction to actually read the help center and learn about the site — are all encouraged and part of the site culture
 
Him again...
 
@S.L.Barth It happened recently after bluefeet's election and again after Martijn's. Probably a handful of times before that.
 
We're celebrating that 7 out of 8 users haven't even taken a tour.
 
So should we be sobbing?
 
We're celebrating the inscalability of the moderator team, and the poor separation of exceptions from routine flags
 
8:58 PM
@bjb568 Do you really think the tour is that valuable? It's nice and all...
 
@JonEricson It's nowhere near all you need for the site, but taking a 30s tour is definitely a prerequisite.
 
> Will a good question get good answers?
If the answer to that is a "yes", these are just marginal problems.
 
Plus 5 years of programming experience and the mental capacity to debug your own code.
 
@bjb568 I stopped participating on the site long before I read the tour. ;-)
 
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Not necessarily, the A:Q ration is 1.65
 
9:01 PM
@bjb568 That could be misleading; how much of that crap on the newest questions' page is actually a "good question"?
 
@JonEricson You're one datapoint. And almost every asker is undereducated in how the site works, especially if they have 1 rep. If the tour was actually read by everyone, with everybody incapable of reading something so simple deleted from the universe (or sent away from the website), the new crap feed would be slightly more bearable.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Very little. It might be ok, but it's certainly not ideal that effort is being diverted to the huge mound of crap.
 
Exactly. We should know what questions and what answers we're taking into account when we say "the A/Q ratio is unacceptable."
 
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Q: Couple the higher privilege reputation requirement to the number of active 3k users

Mad ScientistNow, I might be beating a dead horse here, probably one that has been dead and decomposing for a while now, but I'll try it anyway. There have been plenty of discussions about the new graduation mechanics, and the most controversial one is that the higher privilege levels that come with graduati...

 
Then, there are reversal-winners.
 
And the post scores are a poor indicator. They have some value but not much.
 
9:06 PM
I suppose dup, LQ, and other unhelpful answers are also included.
 
Extremely high scores on old posts are likely a result from humorous answers - like the famous parsing-HTML-with-regex .
 
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Git answers have huge scores when they explain common tasks; nothing to do with humor.
 
@S.L.Barth Precisely. How can we expect one that can't write a single grammatical English sentence to be able to evaluate the quality of a question? Let alone an answer.
 
So we should normalize for these.
 
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I don't really see much of SO humor when searching. They may have views because of being linked in many places, but search works differently.
 
9:08 PM
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I don't want to be too harsh on grammar.
 
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Anyway; I agree with @bjb568 that the banner/logo thing is ugly, and declare a strike: no SO involvement until it's gone.
 
Unless they're suggesting edits and introducing more grammatical errors than they solve, of course.... #petpeeve
 
@S.L.Barth No no, I mean the ones that come and say "MY CODEZ C# NOT WORKING" and post C++ code. I'm a non-native Englisher myself.
 
@NormalHuman I've got about a half dozen TSQL syntaxes that I can't remember how to use. So I ask Google and get the same half dozen SO questions back. The only thing that saves me from complete embarrassment is that I only voted on and didn't write any of those posts.
 
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Then we agree. l33t sp33ch is not acceptable, we're a site for professionals.
* Embarassing moment when I wrote "acceptible" instead of "acceptable" *
 
9:13 PM
Don't worry, it was just a moment.
 
Fortunately we have some time to edit here.
 
It could've come off as a mockery of that special English.
 
That, too. And it proves my point that we shouldn't be too harsh on grammar.
 
Bad grammar is the first step to crappy post academy ™.
 
I think there is a correlation.
But we'd have to normalize for country of origin.
 
9:18 PM
Which is usually India.
 
It was observed on Meta.SO a while ago that there was a great number of Indian devs.
Now in every large group, about half is below average, so you also get a large number of bad Indian devs.
 
Our top user came to chat and complained about the decrease in the quality of chem.SE posts; guess what; India ranks second in chem.SE traffic country rankings.
 
I think the numbers get skewed. The sloppy devs/chemists/etc will post on SE right away. The smart ones try to solve their own problems first.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Changes to the Layouts folder do not apply by eli on sharepoint.stackexchange.com
 
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9:23 PM
@SmokeDetector tpu- even though f-word was edited out.
 
Hmmmmmmm
 
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@bjb568 Isn't it a bit early for degree audits?
 
So curly braces are allowed. That's TeXy.
 
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Underscore and ^ (whatever it's called) too.
 
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But you can't type much TeX without backslashes.
 
9:25 PM
Weird requirements.
 
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So, something like x_1^7+x_2^7+...+x_7^7=y^7 is acceptable.
 
The dollar sign is allowed too. So we're in math mode.
That's be $x_1^7+x_2^7+...+x_7^7=y^7$
 
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Yes... but using ... instead of proper \cdots physically hurts.
 
So ${VARIABLE} is allowed but <script> is not.
Assignment is also allowed.
 
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Hopefully they are protected from HaXxorz like these
 
9:29 PM
But why these weird requirements... are they passing the password through a regex?
 
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3 hours ago, by Andy
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@NormalHuman We're talking the same language now. Here's some proper ellipsis:  . . .  . . .  . . .  . . .  . . .
+1 but this should be posted on Meta Stack Overflow, not here. — Normal Human 3 mins ago
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MYSQL: BAD PDO SELECT by Marlene Oliveira on stackoverflow.com
 
Oh wait, whoops. Sorry @Normal; deleted the answer. Am flagging for migration.
 
@NormalHuman Yeah, was poking around the wabsite
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M …
eek, what happened to the replacement?
 
9:41 PM
@bjb568 . . .
 
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9:43 PM
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> 10 million questions and 16 million solutions on Stack Overflow. An amazingly generous community: stackoverflow.com/10m -- willcole at 1:26 PM - 20 Aug 2015 via Twitter
 
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I somehow don't think of asking 10 million questions as a sign of generosity.
 
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And there wasn't any fanfare about 10M answers that I can remember.
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9:55 PM
 
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10:14 PM
 
10:27 PM
How do you hide sites from your profile?
 
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Why? If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear.
 
SO should be there
It used to only have SO there on SO, and it had everything but everywhere else, then it logged me out and I reloaded in thru SO and here it is without
@Anna ur loginz r borken!
 
@bjb568 Go to "edit profile & settings" then to "Hide communities" and then click "Unhide" next to the communities you want to unhide
 
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What does hiding have to do with login?
 
I did a network sync before it mysteriously logged me out
@michaelpri Oh there, Y u no is in network profile?
@NormalHuman cache cleared after login
Huh, I fixed the mysteriously wrong hidden list
 
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10:31 PM
@bjb568 Because hiding is a feature of the new profile. Network profile hasn't been updated in a long time.
 
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And it will, unless/until they redesign that one.
 
Well, what's the holdup?
 
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Putting a huge People Verbed somewhere, no doubt.
 
ewwwww
 
10:33 PM
@bjb568 So much more than you'll ever know.
Like the mod dashboard that... may or may not be useful, but...
 
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Or the 10M page, which is definitely not useful, but had to be designed by someone (Jin).
 
This summarizes SE's layout
 
@NormalHuman Circumflex, caret, hat.
 
Gasp! Don't say c**cum**ex!
 
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I think of circumflex as a diacritic sign directly above a letter; caret is probably the word I was looking for.
 
10:42 PM
‭ ^  005E       CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT
        * this is a spacing character
        x (modifier letter up arrowhead - 02C4)
        x (modifier letter circumflex accent - 02C6)
        x (combining circumflex accent - 0302)
        x (caret - 2038)
        x (up arrowhead - 2303)
Plenty where that came from.
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Q: Bunnies answer the answers to one of your question

Alexander WebsterWhy is there so many bunnies in the world

 
Weirdos.
@SmokeDetector Everything on that question is spam bait.
 
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@SmokeDetector ignore- bad question, but answer seems legit
 
option-i on mac
 
ALT-i
 
10:51 PM
add shift if not modifier
 
So they claim.
Actually, bunnies is not just confused. Look at the answers.
 
Flagged all 3 posts abuse
 
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BunniesOverflow
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Good.
 
10:57 PM
so, seeing squares on Chrome 44, trying to upgrade to see if hicris patch makes a difference and hitting error 4: 0x80070005 -- system level... sadpanda.png
 
@bjb568 That wasn't spam
 
It’s still abusive even if it isn't selling stuff.
 
They weren't affiliated with the company or attempting to sell its services, it was just a user trying to describe how the solved the problem
 
Oh, I meant bunnies.
 
Ah, yeah, that's a flaggin'
 
10:59 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why is Google Maps telling me that Offline Maps aren't available? by Andreee on android.stackexchange.com
 
Deleted. It’s nice having a 40, 70, and >100ker in ELU chat. You can actually do things like this.
 
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Yes, we hear often about you, power hungry high rep users.
 
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:)
 
@Braiam If you're doing this on Linux, I didn't touch anything there. Only Windows -- and I think my patch should be included in 44 (or maybe it's 45?).
 
@hichris123 no, is Windows...
 
11:03 PM
Oh, okay.
Windows 10?
 
in Linux I would use the package manager
no... university XP's
 
...
There's your problem.
XP doesn't have most fonts with newer Unicode stuff (I don't think it even has Segoe UI Symbol).
 
I wonder what IT will do when Chrome remove support for XP
 
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Use IE 8, naturally.
 
I think Chrome will stop supporting XP when it switches to VS 2015... probably a little less than a year (to get to the stable channel).
 
11:05 PM
you can't... there's a WTF Group Policy that doesn't allow you to use IE unless you type a password that of course nobody has...
 
lol. How about Firefox?
 
will try...
 
11:21 PM
@meagar smelled like spam
Definitely crappy and deletable
 
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@tchrist Body - Position 889-896: fucking
 
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11:38 PM
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A: Private Beta Evaluation — Our private beta clashed with SIGGRAPH 2015

Robert CartainoThe site was off to a strong start, but participation fell off a cliff about a week in. Was it the SIGGRAPH conference? Or maybe there are other SE sites these question can be asked. Apparently this is a duplicate We extended the private beta until next week to see if usage picks up somewhat, o...

 
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