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SPArchaeologist

1:00 PM

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard I feel that some SE employee might not like that...

balpha ♦, Berlin, Germany

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@SPArchaeologist Borg? Sounds fun

Now not only adaptation, there's also magic and whatnot

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty hmm... why is that? @balpha actually created the Unicornify, you know

SPArchaeologist

@UniKitty you may be more worried by Bolt you know....

BoltClock ♦, Singapore

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UniKitty

Yeah, so he won't like us eating his pet unicorn he rides to get to work every morning

Shadow Wizard

@Mooseman unicornify UniKitty

@UniKitty us? you eat, I try to tell you it's futile

UniKitty

1:04 PM

NomNomNom... Yum!

@SPArchaeologist why?

I don't know him

SPArchaeologist

by the way @Bolt, I was thinking.... EG3+Human Twily+Probable Season 6 title begin "Guardians of Harmony" == Sunset back in Equestria and actual show character?

Shadow Wizard

!!/lick

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard licks ice cream cone

UniKitty

@SPArchaeologist You know him?

Yum! ice cream must be good in this weather

Shadow Wizard

@rene will agree ^

rene

1:07 PM

sure

UniKitty

Are they best friends?

SPArchaeologist

@UniKitty Because that is Sunset Shimmer and she is a pony too.

UniKitty

@SPArchaeologist I dunno who that is

Dronehinge

!!/hats?

UniKitty

@Dronehinge nope

Shadow Wizard

1:10 PM

Jun 5 at 6:40, by SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. WINTERBASH IS OVER! :(

!!/spells?

UniKitty

!!/wut

SmokeDetector

@UniKitty Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...

UniKitty

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@UniKitty brews coffee for @UniKitty

UniKitty

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

1:11 PM

@UniKitty Yup

UniKitty

@SmokeDetector yup wut

Dronehinge

!!/cough

UniKitty

!!/alive more?

SmokeDetector

@UniKitty ... did I miss something?

rene

@ShadowWizard As it is passed 1st of july I guess we can have a countdown to hats...

UniKitty

1:12 PM

!!/talk to bots

@SmokeDetector yes you did

Dronehinge

!!/sleep

UniKitty

!!/flag

Bart

@rene yeah, let's get christmas decorations in store as well

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: rotate around and calc by chunhui on tex.stackexchange.com

rene

@Bart you know our local situation mandates pepernoten first...

Bart

1:13 PM

@rene my jealousy grows with every year that passes

UniKitty

@Bart Thats like half a year away

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore- OP needs to move stuff into an answer.

Shadow Wizard

@rene well, ask @Pro ;)

ProgramFOX

If only I knew when Winterbash exactly starts...

Shadow Wizard

@ProgramFOX let's ask @Shog then

he knows

rene

1:14 PM

@Bart let me remind you every day ...

UniKitty

Hey! remember the korean letter thing?

@UniKitty: I used the kiyeok character as a function name. — Sangkyu Kim 2 mins ago

bummi

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/q/259913/201151

Bart

@UniKitty hah, true.

ㄱ

UniKitty

@bummi we're on it!

rene

Oded killed it

UniKitty

1:17 PM

jeez caching

@Oded why didn't you move it to SO? Why just delete?

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty no point moving crap around

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard isn't it valid for SO?

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening | Vaporwave / Trap

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty 99% of the times? not with the original format

UniKitty

@GnomeSlice wut

GnomeSlice

1:20 PM

cc @Bart

Shadow Wizard

moderators shouldn't clean the mess after such users, it will just encourage more of this

UniKitty

then delete user!

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty now that's bit too extreme

UniKitty

I'm evil. I eat helpless unicorns

Shadow Wizard

when user don't take the hint and keep posting programming stuff on MSE, he/she can be suspended, saw it happening several times

UniKitty

1:22 PM

Example plz

Shadow Wizard

nothing recent enough

bummi

nice answer :) bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/38368/6880

GnomeSlice

Did somebody say something about deleting users

UniKitty

Yay!

Shadow Wizard

5

Q: Meta programming question suspension

I've been seeing a lot of these lately: This account is temporarily suspended for asking programming questions on MSO. The suspension period ends on [date-time]. I don't see any way this could be manual, since mods would have to remember the user from earlier posts. If this is in fact aut...

support meta off-topic post-ban

@UniK ^

UniKitty

1:24 PM

eeek.

rene

@UniKitty this user on posting the same stuff twice yesterday cc @ShadowWizard

UniKitty

wut

more wut

Bart

@GnomeSlice yay

rene

@Bart The second track is great

Shadow Wizard

@rene huh! what a weird name though.... ;D

"selah" is word in Hebrew actually, wonder if it's related

it means a rock

UniKitty

1:34 PM

This scares me. @balpha was last chatting 2m ago but there's no message here and the other room is frozen

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty he got a secret room

really

nicael

then he's chatting in some internal room.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PLEASE HELP ME FIND THE NAME OF THIS MANGA? by Rhona Noguera on anime.stackexchange.com

UniKitty

Mod stuff

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty TL

SPArchaeologist

1:35 PM

@UniKitty yea. Helpless.

nicael

@ShadowWizard But TL is on chat.se (rooms/4)? There they use rooms/1, rooms/699 or something else

Shadow Wizard

@SmokeDetector yikes!

UniKitty

I can't until my eyes stop hurting — UniKitty 44 secs ago

Shadow Wizard

@nicael oh, no idea.. that's about the only private room I know of

Bart

@rene yep, like it. @GnomeSlice generally has good taste :)

UniKitty

1:37 PM

@ShadowWizard access denied?

Shadow Wizard

flagged as VLQ

@UniKitty uh? where?

nicael

@UniKitty Sure, would you expect you can get into private room? :D

UniKitty

In room 4

nicael

That's a mod-only one.

Shadow Wizard

room 4... citizen 4... I wonder

UniKitty

1:38 PM

I know.. :(

nicael

@UniKitty Teachers' lounge, as @Sha mentioned :)

UniKitty

teachers? really?

nicael

Lol, that's how they decided to name it :P

Shadow Wizard

@nicael and this one? Any idea?

nicael

Um, internal room? At least you can request the access :)

UniKitty

1:40 PM

100 unicoins for pressing the button!

nicael

@UniKitty I've done it already earlier, because of extreme curiosity... But it didn't explode :(

UniKitty

good luck...

Shadow Wizard

@nicael and you're still not suspended either. hmm...

UniKitty

found this

0

A: Help identifying a manga about a small girl with telekenetic powers

EVERYONE PLEASE HELP ME. I HAVE BEEN TRYING EVERY METHOD IN ORDER TO REMEMBER THE TITLE OF THIS MANGA THAT I HAVE FORGOTTEN. IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THIS MANGA PLEASE TELL ME AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND YOU THINK THERE IS SOMEWAY TO HELP PLEASE DON'T BE SHY OR SCARED TO TELL ME. I'M SURE...

LETS FLAG!

Shadow Wizard

what about it? why onebox crap? it's aleady reported

nicael

1:41 PM

6 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PLEASE HELP ME FIND THE NAME OF THIS MANGA? by Rhona Noguera on anime.stackexchange.com

UniKitty

Now its an answer

before its a question

nicael

Ah wat. Yes, it is.

UniKitty

Whoot 4 accounts to flag stuff today

Dronehinge

Nov 11 '14 at 9:03, by Infinite Recursion

crap

Shadow Wizard

haha

UniKitty

1:43 PM

We have flag/close teams here.

Just need to inform them what to close

Dronehinge

no teams on SE

Shadow Wizard

let's bury the crap with some funny crap then

UniKitty

... And he crashs and dies

... And he snipes a policeman

Shadow Wizard

lol

UniKitty

@Dronehinge 100 rep free? So enough to flag

Shadow Wizard

1:45 PM

hey wait... @TimPost is this a relative? ^^^^

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard maybe

jadarnel27

It's fake Friday, folks.

UniKitty

@jadarnel27 Its thursday

jadarnel27

That is another, equally-valid interpretation.

UniKitty

wut

balpha

1:56 PM

@ShadowWizard @nicael @UniKitty We have a bunch of rooms for company-internal chat.

UniKitty

@balpha so private rooms about Hey! Lets nuke this account?

Shadow Wizard

@UniKitty more like "Hey! This user is irritating!" :-D

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard Whoisit

balpha

@UniKitty That's usually a mod thing. We have a room for the careers devs, one for the q&a devs, one for the community managers, one for the SRE team, one for the IT team, one for the marketing team, one "global" company chat room, etc.

Shadow Wizard

@balpha that's good to know, guess each team/branch of SE got a room then?

balpha

1:59 PM

yep

Shadow Wizard

and one "super room" to control them all?

balpha

Yes. It's called "Joel's Room"

for historical reasons, mostly :)

Shadow Wizard

haha

Braiam

that's what Joel wants to make you all think...

rene

Expect silence in there...

UniKitty

2:00 PM

Joel left right? Or am I wrong

Shadow Wizard

no Jeff's Room then, @balpha? he might get jealous... ;)

GnomeSlice

@UniKitty Jeff left.

(right?)

Shadow Wizard

lol

UniKitty

@GnomeSlice Joel stays?

jadarnel27

@GnomeSlice Correct.

Shadow Wizard

2:01 PM

@jad missed the pun

@UniKitty oh yeah. he's there to stay

UniKitty

cool

Shadow Wizard

@balpha so that's room #1 here?

UniKitty

it secret

jadarnel27

(in a code review yesterday)
Me: This variable could have a better name than "retValue."
Other Dev: Really?? It's not clear that a string message is being returned? retValue is a generic way of issuing a return content.

I don't even know what to say to that.

balpha

@ShadowWizard nope, room #1 is called "#Modchat during three-day beta"

bjb568

2:03 PM

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/699/break-room

@balpha This one?

Bart

@jadarnel27 you're fired?

balpha

back then company chat was still in campfire (but even there we had a "joel's room")

company chat moved to SE chat once it was a bit more stable

jadarnel27

@Bart Haha, I don't have quite that much influence.

Bart

@jadarnel27 okay, going to need a name and address. Consider it taken care of.

Shadow Wizard

@balpha what a creative name! :D

UniKitty

2:05 PM

@ShadowWizard Too creative

balpha

@bjb568 nah, that's the water cooler/funny pictures/not so serious stuff room

UniKitty

It gives out info

jadarnel27

@Bart Ah, are you working with @Andy now?

UniKitty

@balpha so its for taking breaks?

bjb568

@balpha i can haz in?

balpha

2:06 PM

sure, just get hired

Shadow Wizard

looking for blue shade on @bjb's name

UniKitty

@bjb568 tell us if you get suspended or muted

rene

@jadarnel27 retValueString?

Bart

@jadarnel27 business is good. It's no longer a single-person endeavour.

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard he will never get it. Only devs get it

Shadow Wizard

2:07 PM

@balpha so any SE employee has access to all private rooms?

Bart

@rene retValueStringMessage

jadarnel27

@rene Sure, that's better :P

@Bart Code review: approved.

Shadow Wizard

feature-request give @nicael access to ALL rooms, so that he can try and break them, finding all the bugz

Braiam

@Bart retValueStringMessageThatSaysSomethingUsefulMaybe

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard and we suffer

Shadow Wizard

2:08 PM

@UniKitty nope, only the employees who used to use those rooms

Bart

@Braiam very name. Much descriptive. Such pro.

UniKitty

@ShadowWizard and suddenly all bugs stop getting fixed

Braiam

I should work for MS already

SPArchaeologist

@Braiam not until you manage to devise something called "IgnoreMeException"

bjb568

Then PreviousIgnoreMeException should be made after and not be ignored, for compatibility reasons.

SPArchaeologist

2:12 PM

@bjb568 Sad part about this? You were joking. I wasn't

bjb568

oh god

SPArchaeologist

SharePoint excel service related stuff.

rene

@SPArchaeologist You don't use ilspy?

jadarnel27

catch {} - the original IgnoreMeException?

SPArchaeologist

@rene that screen should be from the pre We-bought-reflector-now-pay days

rene

2:17 PM

Oh, OK

bjb568

@rene Talk about fixed-width websites…

jadarnel27

Another gem from that code review: "Fine, I don't like it, but I'll do it anyway"

...thanks?

Doorknob

obligatory @bjb complaining about fixed width websites

rene

@jadarnel27 Mission accomplished...

@bjb568 Works for me in IE11

bjb568

What works?

And quit using IE11!

640px wide.

Braiam

2:21 PM

@SPArchaeologist is... actually useful to ignore that the encryption init failed?

rene

they will try later....

Braiam

that seems the recipe for an infinite loop

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: How to set Your antivirus as Window's default antivirus program? by Stacey Matthews on stackoverflow.com

bjb568

spam?

SPArchaeologist

@Braiam don't know. I saw that while opening an excel file in the excel viewer web part. It never tried later.

Braiam

2:23 PM

@SmokeDetector blames question too

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

SPArchaeologist

also, seem pretty similar to the 8.30am scheduled exception sharepoint raises every morning when .... killing owstimer process to restart it

rene

@Braiam yeah, well, if I move a file I just closed I do that in a loop ...

user259867

Yes, spam; the "answer" is a pretext. Of course, OT question too.

hichris123

@ProgramFOX ok.

@Undo Hrm, we can probably speed that up. Somehow.

bummi

2:26 PM

@bjb568 A while ago on Askubuntu for me: flagged as spam declined - Why is it spam? Comodo is a fairly large and established company.

user259867

Sure, some spam flags are going to be declined.

user259867

There is nonzero error rate in casting them, and also in handling them.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Power calculations for proportions, two-stage cluster by mochi on stats.stackexchange.com

Braiam

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/8790437/792066

bummi

@SmokeDetector ignore-

user259867

2:28 PM

In that answer, it's painfully obvious that the mention of Comodo is just to plant that SEO-friendly link

Braiam

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/30029152/792066

bunch of NAA's and OT questions stackoverflow.com/…

kill with fire stackoverflow.com/questions/604710/…

bjb568

@1999 flagged spam

SPArchaeologist

2:50 PM

@1999 the one below with VeriSign seems the same...

Pandya

some users writes in their profile like: all contributions are licensed under ..... license. Whereas stackexchange states that user contributions licensed under cc-wiki with attribution required. As CC BY-SA 3.0 has term : you must distribute your contributions under the same license as the original, Is this type of overriding OK?

Braiam

@Pandya you can double license your work, if they are not incompatible, you know?

and SE license takes precedence in those cases

rene

execllnt

Pandya

Isn't this overriding a licensing policy?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: Problem I need to Insert Data every 5 minutes, not working by Fito Bass on dba.stackexchange.com

GnomeSlice

3:06 PM

@SmokeDetector ?

Braiam

@SmokeDetector arg! that's a messy indentation!

PeterJ

Probably the "MM MM MM MM MM" etc.

SPArchaeologist

last lines in the question can be used as a eyesight test.

rene

Let @Bart have a look at it...

things are getting nasty on that execllnt question...

How does being new prevent you from clarifying the question? (btw it's "bear") — Juhana 48 secs ago

GnomeSlice

Here's some weird shit

S U R V I V E - Omniverse (Official Video)

►

Really good though

SPArchaeologist

3:22 PM

not enough ponies.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Tuleap Login Page Not Found by Dennis on superuser.com

jadarnel27

3:40 PM

I feel a little weird about this database table having accumulated 16 foreign key fields.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Buy fake & Original Passports, IDs, Driver's Licenses, Diplomas etc by remonegber on travel.stackexchange.com

SPArchaeologist

@jadarnel27 NEWBIE! A consultant we still somehow manage to use (only boss know why) did once a very.... funny... DB that among other thing had a table with a 12 column composed primary key. All 12 columns where also varchar(max)....

jadarnel27

Wow, that is exceptionally...uh, strange, @SPArchaeologist. I will work harder to reach that level.

The database table also has, like, 80 columns (and it is not a denormalized reporting table or anything like that). I blame ORMs.

SPArchaeologist

@jadarnel27 actually, they also managed to make fun of the one my coworker who pointed out that the db didn't even implement first normal form.

the actual phrase used was something like "watch, guys... here is one that still uses normal form"

jadarnel27

o_0

Bart

3:56 PM

Everyone knows that abnormal form is the next big thing.

rene

So there is hope for me?

SPArchaeologist

yes I know.... I enrolled as a developer, found out that I would actually work in the field of esoteric archaeology with SharePoint and now I am left wondering if I am actually an anthropologist since many of the people I encounter seem to reason like monkeys.

no offense to the monkeys intended.

Bart

@SPArchaeologist careful ... Tim Post has a gun.

SPArchaeologist

have to go for now. Later, tavern

Bart

cya

user259867

4:08 PM

> Election ended early - there were only three nominees so they were elected by default.

user259867

So... the rules were different back in 2011, I suppose. webapps.stackexchange.com/election

jadarnel27

ChrisF was elected by convention. Or maybe the gravitational force of his other diamonds.

user259867

Also, the pro tem announcement used screenshots instead of flair back in the days. sniff they have grown up so.

user259867

In particular, ChrisF wasn't even a dog back then.

Doorknob

misaligned screenshots... twitch

user259867

4:16 PM

I guess I'll add Rebecca Chernoff to the list of mods-turned-employees, but separately as she's a former employee.

jadarnel27

Is there an actual list for that being maintained somewhere?

Doorknob

Unofficially, yes. (Mostly by @1999.)

user259867

@jadarnel27 this one

hichris123

@1999 Already half-done by Gilles. ;P

user259867

I did thank him in a comment.

jadarnel27

4:20 PM

Ah, interesting. Thanks, @1999 and @Doorknob.

bjb568

I set one of the library computers to Safari and DDG 3d ago, hasn't be reverted yet.

user259867

SE really should be promoting this concept better. Like a fast food chain: yes, you mop the floor today and get paid [next to] nothing, but if you work hard, one day you can be a manager.

bjb568

And mop the floor and get paid [next to] nothing.

maybe twice nothing tho, if they're being generous

user259867

I don't have a Disqus account yet... is it possible to downvote comments below zero?

user259867

Because at the rate that comments get spammed, this may become the alternative to flagging.

SmokeDetector

4:29 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SCRIPT TO UV SPLIT + DINAMIC TRANSLATE by yhoyo on blender.stackexchange.com

hichris123

Tim is now Director of Stack Overflow Communities. Yay for titles! github.com/StackExchange/blog/commit/…

user259867

org-chart-pls

Doorknob

@hichris123 Uh, is Github's layout broken on that link for anyone else?

hichris123

... what do you mean?

Doorknob

bjb568

4:35 PM

looks fine to me

Doorknob

It's all weirded from the normal layout.

ProgramFOX

@Doorknob You know that you have selected "Split" and not "Unified"?

Doorknob

Oh.

user259867

+1 to Doorknob for pointing out the existence of split view.

user259867

Never noticed that.

SmokeDetector

4:51 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: What is the French equivalent of “Holy fucking shit”? by Adrian on french.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PROGRAMING TUTORIAL C++ by vuongluis on stackapps.com

Tiny Giant

5:05 PM

Morning!

bjb568

5:15 PM

Morning!

Tiny Giant

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31190713/4639281 (Simple)

Or the duplicate that was just posted

bjb568

@TinyGiant … then why'd you answer?

Tiny Giant

Ahh, felt like it.

Deleted it

bjb568

You know… closing is for preventing answers.

user259867

5:31 PM

Why does this have so many upvotes? There is no null value here, there is no validation issue here. The employee's last name is literally and validly "Null" This has nothing to do with numbers, nothing to do with IDs, and nothing to do with how NaN is handled. — Maxx Daymon Nov 15 '13 at 22:04

user259867

I'm puzzled, too. Looking at the revision history didn't help.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, nested quote blocks in body: working which found regarding Le Parise by patlybriany on askubuntu.com

Tiny Giant

5:43 PM

What happened to H&I? It's empty? I've never seen that before.

Shog9

woops...

2

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: How to view complete overhead map of Minecraft 1.8 server world? by hew on gaming.stackexchange.com

user259867

I guess that review script had a little bug... or it became sentient and reviewed everything itself.

Tiny Giant

What did you do?

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

rene

5:54 PM

Can't you woops on the CVQ as well?

4

bjb568

Yeah, just "accidentally" delete all the questions permanently.

Tiny Giant

Ahh, wut. 250 in H&I now, that was short lived

rene

Let me use this opportunity to make you aware of an event starting in one hour

Tiny Giant

We need another woops....

Tiny Giant

6:15 PM

And more close votes.

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls off topic,: stackoverflow.com/q/24191136/1864610

All out.

Likewise...

50 is not enough

@HoboSapiens why?

Sitecore it is a cms, AFAIK running on-premises only

Farhan

6:33 PM

Hello Room.

How can I see if the votes I had cast are reversed or not?

Also, the maximum allowed votes for a day are 40. My profile page is showing only 31 votes cast for today and I cannot cast anymore. (My last vote was cast 3-4 hours ago.)

Tiny Giant

What kind of votes, and what do you mean by reversed?

And on which site?

Farhan

Votes on answers by different users.

@TinyGiant Aviation

3 mins ago, by Farhan

Also, the maximum allowed votes for a day are 40. My profile page is showing only 31 votes cast for today and I cannot cast anymore. (My last vote was cast 3-4 hours ago.)

Tiny Giant

Votes that you reversed? Or are you asking about the serial voting reversal script?

rene

@Farhan Can you try on on a question?

because of this

Braiam

@Farhan actually only 30 with a bonus of 10 on questions, but once you hit the warning of '5 votes left' on answers you can't use the bonus

SmokeDetector

6:46 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected, repeating words in answer: Can I transfer my PC account on DC Universe Online to my PS3? by user117320 on gaming.stackexchange.com

Farhan

@rene No, I cannot do that either.