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9:01 AM

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog

"On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" is an adage which began as a cartoon caption by Peter Steiner and published by The New Yorker on July 5, 1993. The cartoon features two dogs: one sitting on a chair in front of a computer, speaking the caption to a second dog sitting on the floor. As of 2011, the panel was the most reproduced cartoon from The New Yorker, and Steiner has earned over US $50,000 from its reprinting. == §History == Peter Steiner, a cartoonist and contributor to The New Yorker since 1979, said the cartoon initially did not get a lot of attention, but later took on a life...

Morning!

Morning!

Morning!

Morning!

Morning!

9:11 AM

Morning!

user202362

Jan Dvorak

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a god.

user202362

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a cat.

user202362

J. Steen

On the internet, everybody knows you're a troll.

user202362

9:17 AM

~_~

Tim Post

On the internet, nobody knows you're the internet.

J. Steen

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29228764/…

"Hi, I know f**k all about this, please write my entire application for me."

Andrew T.

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/29228939/2821954

Bart

@J.Steen for a moment there I thought my clients were posting

Jan Dvorak

On the internet, nobody knows you're a NSA agent

J. Steen

9:27 AM

@Bart Clients are supposed to know f**k all. That's how we can charge the big bucks.

Bart

@J.Steen yeah ... until "why do you charge so much when your computer does it all?"

J. Steen

@Bart Equally, "why do you charge so much for managing me, when your Word application does it all?"

"My computer is a tool, just like you."

Bart

:D

J. Steen

So, uh, anyone else wanna cv this? stackoverflow.com/questions/29228939/…

Aw. The magical tex mex buffet is on wednesdays.

bummi

9:45 AM

cv-pls superuser.com/questions/490772/…

user202362

10:06 AM

@TimPost is that a cross dressing ape in your avatar?

user202362

looks like your old ape ... in women's attire

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: OPENGL STREAMING FROM MULTIPLE WINDOW by Aspiring Game Dev on gamedev.stackexchange.com

Patrick Hofman

11:04 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29230904/…

Mooseman

11:16 AM

cv-pls tool stackoverflow.com/q/29229364/1234256

J. Steen

That's a bit rude.

So, how does rejecting migrations happen?

Because that's obviously a bad migration and cs should know better.

Mooseman

@J.Steen Either 1) a mod says NOOOO!!!! or 2) we close it.

J. Steen

SO being a crappy migration source isn't an excuse, either. ;)

@Mooseman Cool. I did vote to close.

bjb568

There it is

Awful

waste of time

Mooseman

Did you have to draw it again? You could've used a copy machine to enlarge it then cut and past the squares on the grid.

Bart

11:36 AM

@Mooseman also solved Rubik's cubes by taking off the stickers and repasting them.

Mooseman

@Bart The only Rubik's cubes I ever had were so cheap that the stickers didn't restick...

Bart

:D

Braiam

@bjb568 what the.........................................................................

"draw the little square" why the diminutive? why?

Tim Post

@chmod711telkitty If a fishing cap and a corn-cob pipe is women's attire? Also, I don't believe in cross-dressing; clothes have no sex, wear whatever you want.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Get-WmiObject : The RPC server is unavailable by user36578 on stackoverflow.com

Mooseman

11:46 AM

oh cool ctrl + backspace deletes ALL TEH TEXT

Braiam

hey Tim, can you check this out for a second? i.stack.imgur.com/YtDYi.png seems too bizarre to be true

Mooseman

@Braiam Somebody with 125 rep on each of those four sites hates you.

Braiam

@Mooseman yeah, I should stop pissing off people

3

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: How do I write out a chemical reaction? by ROYGBIV on chemistry.stackexchange.com

Doorknob

uhhh... fp?

J. Steen

11:58 AM

"It's some weird shit that makes me hate chemistry so much."

Useless noise. Should be removed.

Even if the comment is a bit sarcastically funny.

Bart

12:19 PM

@Braiam nah. Way too much fun.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: World’s No. #1 weight loss product “Bellaplex” available online by jamespike on meta.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@KevinBrown Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Jan Dvorak

gone

Unihedro

12:35 PM

@Braiam perform the ritual and punish the voter :p

user259867

in CoGro Musings, 12 hours ago, by Jon Ericson

I'm writing some thoughts on how we manage answering emails to team@. Part 1 and Part 2.

user259867

Interesting stuff, especially part 1.

user259867

psa The user profile tab formerly known as "activity" and "activities", and currently "all actions" had its URL changed back to ?tab=activity, but is still called "all actions".

Patrick Hofman

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/q/29232906/993547

Braiam

@Woodface because backwards compatibility

Bart

12:48 PM

@Woodface interesting read indeed

user259867

@Braiam Yeah, that. The renaming was caused by the 2nd profile page being called "Activity". When the 2nd profile page was first introduced, it was ?tab=allactivity. Then it took ?tab=activity from the tab, causing a chain of renames. Now this page is ?tab=topactivity

user259867

Naming is hard.

Bart

@rene I'd say so

Unihedro

1:11 PM

@Woodface bah

Tim Post

@Braiam You've got the 'and influence people' part down pretty well. Who cares about the 'How to win friends' at the beginning.

Braiam

@TimPost 'how to influence friends' seems too useful :/

J. Steen

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29233654/…

naa stackoverflow.com/a/29233753/64976

But. I don't know how useful that is.

ArceusMaster0493

1:28 PM

Hello everyone, just wondering how can nicael flip everything inside the comment box in the meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3122/formatting-sandbox (formatting sandbox)...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PROBLEMAS CON EL AUDIO UBUNTU 14.04 DESPUES DE ACTUALIZACION MARZO 2015 by SamueL VenegaS LINUX777 on askubuntu.com

Tim Post

@ArceusMaster0493 ˙˙˙ pǝddᴉlɟ ƃuᴉɥʇʎuɐ ǝǝs ʇ,uop I ¿ʇɐɥM

ArceusMaster0493

@TimPost No, I mean, nicael commented "What have you tried?" but after the normal words come the mirrored words...

Tim Post

Can you link to the comment directly?

ArceusMaster0493

@TimPost Um, how?

J. Steen

1:31 PM

Click the timestamp.

ArceusMaster0493

Ahh... meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3122/… (thanks)

J. Steen

Spreading mildly useful information is my raison d'etre.

Lynn Crumbling

Yay... 5k... halfway there. sigh

cv-pls unclear stackoverflow.com/q/28531784/656243

cv-pls unclear stackoverflow.com/q/29224590/656243

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: my registration code is not running by user3632403 on stackoverflow.com

J. Steen

^ cv-pls debugging

cv-pls no-code stackoverflow.com/questions/29234141/not-save-to-mdf-file

Maybe I should give up, and focus on the positive contributions...

user259867

1:48 PM

@LynnCrumbling Interesting how your top two tags have nearly equal score: c# 71, java 69. With 45 posts in [c#] vs 4 in [java]...

Unihedro

rofl

J. Steen

Maybe java people are just more friendlier/considerate/follow the etiquette. Not that it's likely.

user259867

No, the reason is this

J. Steen

Hahaha! Right.

flags as naa

kidding

Doorknob

halp, we just had a line that crosses the asymptote. DOES THIS NOT DEFEAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF AN ASYMPTOTE

J. Steen

1:51 PM

...

Oh hey. It's that question again: stackoverflow.com/questions/29234417/…

user259867

@Doorknob It doesn't. The graph can approach an asymptote while swinging back and forth. All cool kids do it.

user259867

Like y = sin(x) / x

user259867

But you're not alone in thinking that...

user259867

3

A: False beliefs in mathematics (conceptual errors made despite, or because of, mathematical education)

Both my students and some of my colleagues (!) believe that the graph of a function cannot cross a horizontal asymptote. Obviously this implies that they misunderstand the definition of an asymptote. More worryingly (in my eyes), it also seems to imply that they don't understand why we even car...

user259867

(Written back when Alex was a high school teacher.)

Doorknob

1:56 PM

Hm.

J. Steen

2:06 PM

cv-pls too broad stackoverflow.com/questions/29234727/…

Great way to work oneself into a question-ban.

@Bart This is their third attempt.

Bart

If he would be this persistent when trying to solve his own problems, he'd be doing far better.

J. Steen

Probably best not to comment that on the question.

Poof.

Bart

Let's see if the ban kicked in ...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Understanding scope of global nested functions in javascript by stry on stackoverflow.com

Bart

If he's really 37 years old ....

J. Steen

2:10 PM

6 existing questions, some upvoted.

Bart

Using the site for over 3 years

That's sad

J. Steen

I only have 4 questions. =D

One's even at -2.

Bart

I meant that he should have understood the site by now. As for the number of questions, I have 0 ... so yeah ...

J. Steen

I think the distinctive difference here is that I use Stack Overflow to find answers, not to ask questions.

Bart

Same here

J. Steen

2:13 PM

It's a very small, but very important difference. =D

Of course, one type of person can't exist without the other.

Andy

Aww...I feel stupid now. I have over 80 questions :(

J. Steen

Nah. There needs to be questions too.

Bart and me are just too stupid to ask good questions. ;)

Bart

That's no reason to feel stupid. I am stupid all the time. Luckily plenty of people have been equally stupid before me.

J. Steen

Couldn't have said it better.

ArceusMaster0493

How did nicael successfully scrambled the words in the comment box here? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3122/…

Unihedro

2:15 PM

@ArceusMaster0493 "unicode"

Bart

@ArceusMaster0493 fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/202e/index.htm

ArceusMaster0493

@Bart Wow... thanks man!

J. Steen

@Unihedro I thought the answer was always caching.

Andy

@J.Steen It is. Bart's old answer just hasn't cleared the cache yet

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: What's the process for making a PS4 game? by user63167 on gamedev.stackexchange.com

Mooseman

2:25 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu gone

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman true/tp cannot be used for answers because their job is to add the title of the question to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'. If you want to blacklist the poster of the answer, use trueu or tpu.

J. Steen

Bit of a catch 22, there...

Bart

"trueu" sounds like something bjb might write

Shadow Wizard

spam answer meta.stackexchange.com/a/251975/152859 (also spam comment, but will go away with the answer)

J. Steen

@Bart They're not asking another question, so the ban might have kicked in.

Bart

2:32 PM

inb4 meta post on "unfair ban when asking only well received questions"

J. Steen

=D

Argh. Give me git or give me death...

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard how do I tell where the links go?

J. Steen

@JanDvorak unshort.me

Jan Dvorak

nice!

Lynn Crumbling

@Woodface Yep.. not quite sure how that ended up happening. It must be highly ranked by google or something.

J. Steen

2:42 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29235014/…

Cheers.

Lynn Crumbling

Ah, crystal reports....

Wish SAP would actually do something with that product.

J. Steen

It evokes a similar feeling to how people react to "Ah, ebola..."

2

Lynn Crumbling

In some ways, the latter is kinder. At least that has a definitive end, one way or the other.

J. Steen

Unless you hydrate a lot. No amount of water will save you from Crystal Reports, unless we're talking about drowning and the sweet release of death.

Lynn Crumbling

CR dev just seems to drag on. Especially when managers get a whiff of what kind of data slicing they can get.

Still needs two : stackoverflow.com/q/28531784/656243

Also needs two: stackoverflow.com/q/29224590/656243

J. Steen

2:49 PM

FFS. Linq is the jquery of .net.

"How can I do this with linq?!"

"Will linq give me babies?"

"Is linq our new god?"

Jason C

@LynnCrumbling Heh...

J. Steen

What's deleted?

Jason C

> Thanks for answering! I'm a beginner and I dont really know python but I think your tutorial could be helpful.Could you please help me with the open cv configuration first? Can I use visual studio to do this program? – Marie Feb 16 at 21:45

> How do I run the python program you provided in terminal? I'm using OS X YOSEMITE. when I tried to do python (name.py) it gave me that error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "face_recognizer.py", line 4, in <module> import cv2, os ImportError: No module named cv2 – Marie Feb 16 at 22:35

Python, VS, OSX, wat?

J. Steen

What.

Jason C

They've got to be trolling... I can't imagine how somebody with a half decent vocabulary could be so utterly lost in this way.

J. Steen

2:55 PM

cv-pls dup stackoverflow.com/questions/29075803/…

Jason C

Who asks "I don't really know python ... Can I use Visual Studio to do this program? ... I'm using OS X YOSEMITE" in seriousness? Lol

J. Steen

I use Visual Studio on a Mac. :p

Albeit in a virtual machine.

Jason C

Ok; and I guess there are some Python tools for VS, if you really wanted to go that way. So maybe it was a serious question about a super weird setup after all.

J. Steen

Argh. My earlier point exactly:

You might be able to use LINQ. — alex 7 mins ago

Jason C

But then how do you have the knowledge to set up that environment but still be confused on that level, I have no idea.

Andy

2:58 PM

@JasonC I've been told PyTools is good.

I haven't used it though

J. Steen

@JasonC Troll or clueless, they are very similar in appearance.

Jason C

I need to not try and overanalyze these posts, heh.

Andy

spam stackoverflow.com/a/29235893/189134

J. Steen

The entire question is... debatable.

cv-pls rec stackoverflow.com/q/15379205/64976

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak dunno, for me any unidentified link from 1 rep user is spam. It might lead to picture of a flower or picture of @!$%, doesn't really matter.

J. Steen

3:03 PM

Uh.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29235914/…

Shadow Wizard

@Andy tpu

hmm... brand new user creating account just to suggest a single edit - anyone else think it's bit suspicous?

Mooseman

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/85447/…

> Proposed Q&A site for people who want to understand the meaning of jokes

user259867

[wrong ping] Duplicate of ELU?

Shadow Wizard

@PatrickHofman and for what it's worth, the devs retag such bug reports to support when they can't reproduce instead of adding status-norepro so the edit is quite valid.

@Woodface not sure, jokes are quite a vast area might be worth seeing what sample questions it will get.

J. Steen

3:18 PM

Seriously. Windows 7 can't unzip a password-protected zip-file? What the actual ****?

bummi

offensive askubuntu.com/a/600717/184892

offensive askubuntu.com/a/600721/184892

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

Slightly worried that my new question will be closed as a duplicate. It's not (although there are any questions asking the same thing, the thing meaning it's not a duplicate is outlined clearly in the question): stackoverflow.com/questions/29236399/…

@bummi That user could do with an account destruction, it's clear they're not going to contribute anything useful to Stack Exchange.

bummi

I think so :/

Jason C

@Woodface And movies.se if the joke's in a movie.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

If someone flags my question as a dupe, I seriously will go crazy, lol. I've seen types here before which see a title and think 'OMFG It's a duplicate!' and flag without actually reading the question's content.

Jason C

3:29 PM

@Mooseman Example question: "http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/85447/joke-meanings, why is this funny?"

I better stay away from chat today; I woke up on the moron side of the bed, I think.

Patrick Hofman

@ShadowWizard okay, but should we do that or the devs?

bummi

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ This one does not fit? stackoverflow.com/q/6172470/1699210

Patrick Hofman

Don't they do that with a [status-norepro]

Andy

@bummi You're trying to make him crazy, aren't you?

bummi

@Andy Never ....

Shadow Wizard

3:36 PM

@PatrickHofman doesn't really matter when it's an obvious no-repro bug

@PatrickHofman sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Guess it also depends on the dev handling the case/cleaning up old reports.

Patrick Hofman

@ShadowWizard Ok. Will think of that next time.

J. Steen

Posted my first self-answered question... eagerly awaiting downvotes.

And then posting passive-aggressive rants on meta about why well-received questions get downvoted.

inb4 Bart inb4s.

Jason C

@J.Steen Because the SE police state jerks just like to bully new users.

J. Steen

@JasonC We gotta stick it to the man.

Jason C

Ikr. Rage against the machine.

user259867

3:51 PM

Current summary of starred messages: ebola, stupid, pissing off, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot.
The room needs more positivity.

Andy

someone's not graduating...

cv-pls too broad stackoverflow.com/q/29236826/189134

J. Steen

I LOVE COFFEE!!!

^ There, positive.

user259867

Too positive, no star for you.

Jason C

23 hours ago, by Shog9

@JasonC yes

J. Steen

That's positive.

Sort of.

Notice how noone's starring the positiveness.

Do I flag this comment-thread for cleanup, or do we just let the roomba eat the question itself? stackoverflow.com/questions/29236982/…

Jason C

3:58 PM

Is anybody else having connection problems with SO or is it just me

J. Steen

Not me.

user259867

@J.Steen comments on doomed posts can rot in piece, imo

J. Steen

coughpeacecough

user259867

Unless there's still an active conversation going there. In which case the participants should totally drop that and try a ... spellchecker, I guess.

Jason C

"This is not a write code for me site".. really? strange I found tons of example in this great site!!! anyway thanks for your help, i'll figure it out myself; I am wasting my time here — brillox 7 mins ago

J. Steen

4:01 PM

Yeah, it's still going on.

Jason C

That's disheartening.

user259867

@J.Steen Please bare with me, I didn't have enough coffee yet.

J. Steen

@Woodface If you want to have your coffee naked, that's up to you.

Shadow Wizard

wondering how naked coffee looks like

Jason C

Not only disheartening, but then you have 200k rep users giving answers and encouraging it.

J. Steen

4:03 PM

Dangling... participle?

On my part.

nicael

5

A: How can I see the number of up / down votes on my own posts without 1000 rep?

First way Personally I am using this script installed on Tamper Monkey. Works wonderfully. Also it works in /review and /questions (somewhere else probably) pages if you replace complicated @includes and @excludes with these simple @includes , as I did after installation: // @include *...

look at the second way I found :) just {se-site}/posts/{post-id}/vote-counts

J. Steen

Well, it was never about hiding the information, just not letting thousands of users requesting the information willy-nilly. =)

Shadow Wizard

@nicael works only when you're logged in with account having 1K+ rep

Jason C

^^

Shadow Wizard

otherwise gives a blank result

nicael

4:07 PM

lol

:(

user259867

> New blog post: Optimization Considerations. I rebuilt nickcraver.com for speed, take a peek. nickcraver.com/blog/2015/03/24/optimization-considerations … -- Nick Craver at 9:04 AM - 24 Mar 2015 via Twitter

user259867

> We now render question pages in 10-15ms. What does that matter to an Australian user loading the page in 400-500ms? I don’t know, they probably died to spiders or scorpions while waiting for their page to load.

J. Steen

Ouch.

user259867

4:26 PM

> It’s worth noting that the mobile friendly changes have an additional benefit in Google rankings starting April 21st.

Lynn Crumbling

Today.. I am going to people-watch in c#.

We'll see how this goes.

J. Steen

My life.

"I try to call C# code from java application, and this is done through a C++ library." <- How to created problems for yourself.

Lynn Crumbling

HAHAAHAHAHA

If they were at all serious about programming, they'd have found a way to stuff some vb6 into that. Clearly they have no idea what they are doing.

Bart

@LynnCrumbling and where's the jQuery?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: JSON + AJAX + PHP by Guilherme Pichok on pt.stackoverflow.com

Lynn Crumbling

4:39 PM

@Bart EXACTLY. I venture to say that if they'd applied just a LITTLE bit of JQuery, it would have solved all of their issues.

J. Steen

Needs more linq.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: The code below is not showing any output when run in Latex and the Latex file is not showing any error by Alex on tex.stackexchange.com

J. Steen

fp, even if badly formatted.

Lynn Crumbling

nod

user259867

edit suggested

J. Steen

4:43 PM

And rejected, it seems?

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@bummi That's essentially the same code as in the first link I gave; it doesn't work with Windows Aero, and doesn't display properly in non-Aero mode. Updated answer to reflect this.

bummi

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ that's why I just asked ... :)

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

could do with a cv:

0

Q: How To Do This In Notepad++

47 inch Toshiba 47L6453DB Smart LED TV" 32 inch Toshiba 32D3454DB Smart LED TV with Built-in DVD Player" 24 inch Seiki SE24GD01UK LED TV with Built-in DVD Player" 24 inch Jvc LT-24C340 LED TV with Built-in DVD Player" Becomes: Toshiba 47L6453DB Smart 47 inch LED TV" Toshiba 32D3454DB Sm...

Lynn Crumbling

5:00 PM

closed

Frank

free naa flags:
http://gardening.stackexchange.com/a/17703/419
http://gardening.stackexchange.com/a/17701/419
http://gardening.stackexchange.com/a/17702/419

bummi

@Frank why? you are mod there ....

Frank

@bummi No I'm not.

user259867

CiviCRM is in beta

bummi

@Frank oups, sorry LH , my bad ... :(

user259867

5:04 PM

Behold the magnificent world of Constituent Relationship Management software. It's mostly used as a plug-in for Drupal, so spam isn't out of question.

Frank

@bummi lol, I don't mind

Lynn Crumbling

@bummi You meant to say "You SHOULD be a mod there" :)

@Frank Ok - time to talk business...

bummi

at least could ?

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Do you do tree pruning?

Frank

@LynnCrumbling yup - but I avoid huge (>60') ones

Alexis King

5:07 PM

@Frank Reports of such self-mutilation are worrying.

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank I have big ones.. but the problems are at the lower levels, where offshoots have died...

Frank

@LynnCrumbling ask on GL! and get some repz

@AlexisKing good pruning == good haircut

@LynnCrumbling is it overcrowded?

what's wrong with em?

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank I'll take some pictures tonight.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling Yay!

Lynn Crumbling

There's a few branches that are just dead.

I've been told they are a hazard.

How much am I looking at?

(hundreds.. thousands... tens of thousands..)

Frank

5:10 PM

@LynnCrumbling uh, how can I tell?

Needs pix

Lynn Crumbling

Is it a function of number of limbs to remove?

(That I could just do straight math?)

Is it fair to say that each one is roughly around a certain amount of money? (meaning, can vary by +/- 20%)

Or.. is it more complicated than that?

Frank

@LynnCrumbling uh, treework is tedious, so they'll prolly charge a good bit. If it's just a few branches at ~4-6" diameter, to be removed at the base, that'll prolly be less than 45 mins of labor for one guy (counting cutting them small enough to throw tin the truck/chipping).

Lynn Crumbling

shoves foot in mouth

I'll just take the pics :)

Frank

@LynnCrumbling :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: unexpected tLABEL (SyntaxError) - learn-rails by mattdeblock.lv on stackoverflow.com

Lynn Crumbling

5:13 PM

And you'd do that?

(show up with a chipper and all? :) )

Prolly not

hah.

hah wat?

sorry .. just not sure if you'd want to do it or not. I'll snap a few pics... see what you think..

If it's up your alley, we can decide on a time to come look at them. It would be a bit of a hike though..

Although, for all I know, you're used to running all over Lancaster anyway.

I'm going to stop rambling now.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling ha, I usually stick to within a 8-10 mi perimeter. :P But I'm all booked up til about August (with a little leeway of course) I'll look at the pix.

Lynn Crumbling

5:19 PM

Ok. I'm jump on later tonight and put them up somewhere.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling ping me then :)

Lynn Crumbling

I'm just north of 30; it's probably 15 mi or so.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling at 6 mpg highway... that's ... hmm.

a good bit just for the gas too

ROFL

that old truck needs to go