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8:10 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CREATING BLACKLIST ON LOGIN PAGE by Muhammad on security.stackexchange.com
programming question - too broad
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care done join by fero james on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
8:23 AM
The drupal people are very happy about downvoting, ruining the indicator of when the post disappears.
at least no one is upvoting ;)
Should we let them learn the hard way how to handle spam properly?
There's plenty of training material
Not flagging?
see them get down to -50? ;)
"Why isn't it going away omg!"
8:25 AM
Just watch the drupal community struggle.
We can watch the spam and see how low it can get
"How low can you go!"
Spam is gone.
What score?
we could add Please do not downvote, flag as spam
Wow. Only one downvote then.
I've seen -15 at times.
8:27 AM
Could still mean people are flagging
Why are people just downvoting this, instead of closing as why-no-work? stackoverflow.com/questions/28873012/…
Absolutely. But also downvoting.
we could make a userscript to plop the comment down whenever someone flags
watch, or flag?
We need a canned comment everytime we flag a spam ther: "This is spam. Please flag it instead of down/closevoting it."
8:29 AM
There's already a userscript for canned comments, but I'm not sure where I left it
Standing firm at -4.
I suspect drupal.se isn't all that... active.
A total of less than 50k questions (still visible) in more than 4 years.
Actually - 6 years now.
Let's have a bot dump here every new Drupal question
22 questions a day.
I wish we had that light load on SO.
Of course, that could include any number of deleted questions.
Huh... apparently there's a keyboard shortcut to change the color scheme on Windows that I've just invoked accidentally. Any idea what that shortcut is?
8:35 AM
Maybe they have a huge quality problem and there are MILLIONS of deleted questions.
You may have activated high contrast mode.
Which is left Shift + left Alt + PrtScn
It switched me from Aero to basic
That's unusual. Usually a crashed graphics driver does that.
could be that pop-up "windows thinks your computer is too slow" popping up at just the right time
is there a way to disable that?
I don't think so.
Apparently, there is a way.
I suspected it was the "automatically adjust" thing, but I haven't had Windows 7 in years.
8:39 AM
> 64 Had this question
A way to reduce NAA!
@AndrewT. Also called upvoting, on SE. >.>
The link "Me too" will subscribe to the thread. Probably closer to "Star/favorite" thing.
I hope @JanDvorak clicked the "Me too" link. <.<
@AndrewT. Hmm. True enough.
spam askubuntu.com/q/592994/184892 I was waiting for
65 now
once I login, that is
8:41 AM
Pesky logins.
I remember a time when we could leave our front doors unlocked, our Facebook accounts password-less, our phones without pin-codes!
(no, I don't)
Keys exist since ancient Egypt at least
@SmokeDetector Tempted to comment, "If you're asking yourself, why post it here?"
@JanDvorak I know. Humans have always coveted others' things.
@SmokeDetector fpu, though hichrist probably could answer that
@AndrewT. Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
aaah, a scrollable window full of checkboxes. I love these.
Especially when none of them do what I expect
8:51 AM
Hah. =)
here we go what?
I wanted to avoid prejudice (spam IMHO)
Down down down to the temple of consumption?
9:03 AM
Not entirely sure I want to spam flag that one
It's entirely incorrect however, since the OP is specifically asking about photoshop.
you have to pay for a solution without watermark
I can't downvote. =(
It's somewhat suspicious behaviour though.
But, users are always suspicious.
Rather - behave suspiciously.
Note sure if it's a spam. The answer also mentioned "mac", but the link provided will show "windows" too, which made me doubt if it's a spam or just a random user providing random answer.
Probably simply clueless.
So. Quadruple shot espresso latte still works on me, just not as well as the first time.
9:08 AM
Yeah I guess so. Searching his name on Google didn't return anything product-related.
Anyway, that blurry answer is gone....
Likely spam-flagged.
What I wouldn't give for downvote-privileges...
Except time to actually get it.
9:21 AM
@J.Steen mhmmm, should not take to long?
Not at all. Just too lazy.
@J.Steen What I wouldn't give for downvote-privileges... ;)
Like I said - except time to actually get it. =D
13 edits
Not even that.
I've got 111 rep.
9:26 AM
then go for it ;)
Toooooo laaaaaaazy. Just like most question-askers.
Also, SU seems like a den of scum and villainy. ;)
@J.Steen Could rename it "Buccaneer's Den", like in the Ultima videogame series city
Q: The Low Quality Posts review queue is growing... let's burn it down!

Alexis KingA little over a year ago, we held the memorable community burnination of the close-votes queue. This has little to do with that. The close votes queue is so massive that it's practically a beast of its own. This is not a problem anywhere near the same scale. That said, the Low Quality Posts queu...

9:41 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Moisturizer For Aging Skin by alica wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Moisturizer For Aging Skin by BNaloct76 on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
10:02 AM
The only site where I has 2 great posts :)
darn, i flagged it already
it's not a spam, he's quoting the pricing from Google Compute Engine
I flagged it from triage. ;p
and the question is in Chinese
anyway, it's VLQ and off-topic
So, knowing not to flag it as spam requires knowing chinese.
My bad, I guess?
10:11 AM
I also don't know Chinese, I used Google Translate too. Anyway, it looks like a spam, so it's understandable.
If everyone bothered to google translate everything that goes through the queues, I can understand why they're growing. =)
But, kudos.
I should write a userscript to automatically translate any page that looks like it's not in english. oh, wait, Chrome has that built in already (sorta)
In this case, I was too quick on the trigger. My defence is the sheer amount of crap that goes through SO.
@JanDvorak Only when the majority of the page is in another language.
That's why I gave up on VLQRQ
As quoted,
2 days ago, by Famous Blue Raincoat
Watching this endless list of crappy question does get boring, it turns out.
Yeah. I starred that message.
I keep forgetting we can edit stuff here. It's not natural.
10:16 AM
On SE, everything can be edited, because.... collaboration!
(wrong advertisement)
Except other people's chat messages. =D
Nothing on the Internet is natural... except health pills
Okay, enough fun.
Let's take some coffee shall we?
Already had one
10:22 AM
So? I already had two. Third is in the making...
Coffee coffee coffee
@rene addiction?
I can stop whenever I want .... just don't want to.
@Bart ... false? Also, nice message ID
10:28 AM
@JanDvorak true. rubs forearms .... gets another coffee
11:20 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care Basics You Must Use To Achieve Healthy Skin by odilr rudyer on meta.stackexchange.com
WHY does the cash-tag exist?
23 questions
I'm looking through them to see if there is any valid use...
Yeah. Burn.
spam sitting at -5
11:36 AM
I think it's gone now.
12 cash-questions left.
c'mon cache!
(which is what half the questions were referring to anyway)
There. 0 questions on "cash".
Ah, do we still need to do something there?
well, Shog deleted a bunch outright
12:42 PM
Am I ignored here or is my advice not sound?
@rene seems he followed it: meta.superuser.com/questions/9191/…
Ah, didn't notice that... tnx
1 hour later…
2:02 PM
This answer is a perfect copy of this. What to do?
Don't blantantly copy an answer from someone else. You are violating the license and risk your answer to be deleted. — Patrick Hofman 8 secs ago
What about that? And a NAA flag?
@PatrickHofman NAA flag would not work, since reviewers won't know what the deal is. Custom flag maybe, if he user is active in doing this... which they are not.
Maybe if reviewers read the comments...
@FamousBlueRaincoat thanks, on the main meta site there wasn't a so clear position.
2:11 PM
The user is an unreg who wasn't seen since posting that. Maybe the comment+downvote is enough (option 1 in Cody Gray's answer).
2:23 PM
@FamousBlueRaincoat I agree with jan. The downvotes should help too.
Should we have a plagiarism flag reason?
Um :/ rep changes still exist, why leave closed???
@SPArchaeologist flag OTHER there are strict penalties for plagiarism
that ^^^^ specially because someone edited
@FamousBlueRaincoat actually, I don't really agree. If we trust the the CC by-SA 3.0 license - attribution required - de facto that post is against law. So it will have to be removed or conformed to the legal requirement by edit. Just downvote is a big no for me
@SPArchaeologist I didn't just downvote. It was about visibility of something wrong. The flag was the most important part.
2:31 PM
Just flag other with as reason Plagiarism - This is full copy of this stackoverflow.com/a/7388873/578411 without attribution and move on...
@PatrickHofman sorry Patrick I replied to the wrong post. Was the raincoat there....
@nicael becaused it can't be reproduced by anyone else. You made tons of... weird... stuff with your reputation in the past.
3:09 PM
Here's how we upgrade a live data center at #stackoverflow: http://blog.serverfault.com/2015/03/05/how-we-upgrade-a-live-data-center #SnowOps
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LIBGDX HTML GWT COMPILE ERROR by SuperUser on stackoverflow.com
@SPArchaeologist user removed
3:37 PM
@Feeds Yay finally the SnowOps post. Will take some time to read.
(no skewl again)
Ridiculous school district you're in, in a ridiculous state.
3:41 PM
'Bout to ship something pretty damn big pretty damn early. The 'S' in March stands for SHIP IT.
Want to have some fun? Sneak up behind someone and yell WHAT HAVE YOU SHIPPED? as loud as you can. They'll ship something, guaranteed :)
@FamousBlueRaincoat I thot it was for pluralization bug…
@bjb568 That too
I still haven't caffeinated enough, so am slow to realize there is no S in 'March'
3:44 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ERROR 1054 (42S22) by Nilton on pt.stackoverflow.com
Random thot while drinking water: Saying that diversity is decreased while using a system where potential hirers have to answer questions / do tests that get analyzed by an AI thing fed by data from existing employees (as apposed to interviews) is like saying selective breeding creates a more diverse genome space than evolution by natural selection.
This is beautiful:
The best part is that those network cables are live...
My data has gone through those :D
3:51 PM
But the blog doesn't mention the most Twitter-famous cable that was ever plugged into any of those servers.
sure it does
> We didn’t mention this was a charge-only cable. Wow, that one riled twitter up. We appreciate the #infosec concern though!
Oh. missed it at the end of a long list. Need yet more coffee then.
That's so dangerous, to plug in a cable like that .... troll
@balpha I'm sure Nick appreciated the general public's trust (or lack thereof) in his sanity too. I still think they should have used that mounting rail to try and cook a pizza on top of the server. Gotta go all in!
@bjb568 I wonder if you bunk the skewl just to post that message :P
3:58 PM
What's bunk mean in that context?
Is it oldpeople slang or something?
we say that we bunked classes or skewl when we miss the class or skewl...so...
Here we say "skip".
thatz valid 2
Here we call that spijbelen
> In South Africa, the slang used is bunking, mulling, skipping or jippo. In Jamaica, it is called skulling. In Guyana skulking. In Antigua and Barbuda, it is called skudding. In New Zealand and Australia truancy is called wagging, bunking, "jigging", ditching, or skipping school. It is called bunking (off) or skiving or wagging[citation needed] in the United Kingdom and India, mitching, wagging or on the knock.
4:01 PM
> In Wales, sagging. In Liverpool, bunking or cutting class, doggin, skiving, playing tickie or puggin. In Scotland, on the hop, on the bunk, mitching, beaking, skiving, doggin it or on the beak. In Ireland, mitching, on the hop, dossing, on the duck or skiving. In the United States and Canada expressions include hookey, playing hookey, ditching, dipping, jigging, sluffing, skipping, cutting class, or simply just cutting.
> In the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, the act of truancy is known amongst youths as "pipping off", and truant students are described as being "on the pip". In Trinidad and Tobago, it is referred to as breaking biche. In Singapore and Malaysia, it is referred to as fly. In the state of Utah a sluff is a commonly used word referring to a truancy. In Pakistan it is referred to as bunking. In India it is "Bunking" in English and "Dumma" colloquially.
4:03 PM
@FamousBlueRaincoat well, blame wikipedia, I'm always right
You can edit it in then.
@FamousBlueRaincoat actually it is. Just take a look at middle name :P
Section 9 of the datacenter upgrade plan is the best.
> Power down NY-BACK02
Find where George put the H830
Pray there’s a PCIe slot free (prayer not successful)
4:39 PM
I'm looking into this now and assign blame accordingly. — Jin ♦ 3 mins ago
4:51 PM
Help edit these two questions into shape!
I've got the first one
I've done the 2nd one
here am I
I am here
best thing about being CEO of Stack Overflow? If I want to know what anybody's doing, I can just read Hacker News http://blog.serverfault.com/2015/03/05/how-we-upgrade-a-live-data-center/
5:09 PM
A: Let the upvotes be green!

nicaelOh. Just look. Can I believe my eyes? Is it green now?

@nicael Huzzah! But there's still this problem...
@Astro This the greatest ever color!!!!!!
@nicael Quite an odd choice, though.
Meta post?
They're slacking on announcements these days...
That's interesting..
^ I really like this queue, except for the fact that you're forced to leave an edit summary (although I can see why they'd want you to do that).
Suggesting that we suggest further changes to the question in edit summaries is an interesting choice, though.
5:23 PM
Some of the stuff is unsalvageable.
@bjb568 You only have the option to skip or edit (even if it doesn't need editing at all).
Yeah, annoying.
Amazing the short term memory of some users
This is the example they give you for an edit summary:
> Welcome to Stack Overflow! I edited the title of your question to include the name of the function you're calling, so more people with knowledge of the subject will see it. I also indented your code sample by 4 spaces so that it renders properly - please see the editing help for more information on formatting. Please edit in the specific error-message you're encountering in case that's necessary to identify the specific problem. Good luck!
I'm pretty sure that exceeds the character limit.
How are they going to do audits?
5:40 PM
@AstroCB Do audits even make sense in that queue? The posts were already identifying as needing improvements; this queue is an action phase, not really a review.
@FamousBlueRaincoat True, but they have them for all of the other queues.
Does anyone have examples of the low-quality posts queue deleting "wrong" answers?
'cause I'm writing a meta thing and so of course they all disappeared.
Any slackers here?
hehe, spam supporter is squarewavin
5:47 PM
@Undo Do you want examples of answers deleted from review that were later undeleted?
@FamousBlueRaincoat Sure, anything
Really I'm after cases where the queue deleted things it really shouldn't have
@AstroCB thanks for interfering with my edit!
So the posts are not locked while you edit...that is useless
@rene You're most welcome.
This queue is pretty intensive.
5:51 PM
7 inches and falling here. Snow is now officially evil.
I'm afraid I'm not getting a badge from it....
@Frank kill it with fire
@Undo Undeleted answers that were deleted from review. Now, most of these have been edited since, so ... maybe they did deserve deletion in their past form.
@JanDvorak lol
I should have added last edit date to that query, but don't have time now.
it's fine
Q: Help Improve The Help & Improvement Queue!

Tim PostA short time ago, we introduced the new triage queue - a place where users can quickly sort questions into various categories, where one of those categories is 'needs improvement'. Until now, we've been alluding to a special place where questions that weren't quite ready for prime exposure could ...

and this is hilly country, so driving up a steep hill in 5" of snow is fun... I passed two other trucks (one small 4x4 f150 and a big monster diesel Ram 3500 dually) that were stuck part way up and slowly sliding back down.
5:54 PM
is conceited how good at driving he is
My truck (with proper maneuver) went right up that hill no prob.
6:08 PM
@FamousBlueRaincoat I've done 8 so far... you'll need some spare time in that queue
When a 2K user edits a post, is that information presented back to the owner via the topbar the way a suggested edit it?
A: Help Improve The Help & Improvement Queue!

AstroCBI really like this queue. It's a great way to help fix up posts and get the necessary information out of the asker so that their question is ready to be answered, and it saves a lot of clarifying time later that could be used for answering the question. However, there are, I think, few problems:...

@Andy Yes; the op gets a "answer|question edited" notification.
@AstroCB, I utilized one of your edits as an example of noise in my answer. No offense intended, you just happened to have edited the review I came upon
A: Help Improve The Help & Improvement Queue!

AndyPiggy-backing on my previous answer, I have a question about this: Comment moderation tools are also active, if you see noise that needs to be cleaned up it's easy to flag. Are the comments added via this queue useful in the long term? As I've skipped through many review so far, I've encoun...

@Andy No problem; I got tired of adding substantive descriptions, and I'll actually probably use that example in my own answer. Thanks for letting me know.
6:21 PM
@FamousBlueRaincoat Still less than 1.21 gigawatts :)
Nobody knows Back to the Future anymore :/
@Mooseman Kids these days.
Wait; the edit comment isn't mandatory?
It appears some users are using the comment purely as an edit summary. Maybe there should be a check box or something so leaving a comment isn't mandatory. (At first glance the comment appears to be mandatory.) — Radiodef 9 mins ago
Or is he just suggesting that it shouldn't be?
I read it as suggesting it shouldn't be
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6:45 PM
Posts are supposed to be locked - we screwed up and added a huge number of duplicate tasks, which inadvertently put 2-3 editors on each post simultaneously. Should be fixed now. — Shog9 ♦ 3 mins ago
OK, that should be better
The new queue literally just disappeared on me
Hm, those comments are really annoying stackoverflow.com/review/helper/7247642
@KevinBrown You broke it! It's @KevinBrown's fault everyone!
@TLama Nice. That single review actually hits both my my answers on the Meta post: How many see the question and are these comments really helpful?
Queue is back
6:57 PM
@Undo has undone (ha! stupid pun) @KevinBrown's breakage everyone!
@bjb568 "Free of poisonous materials" Uh yeah, except for that lighter fluid you just sprayed into it.
One of those things is going to explode and kill someone's cat.
7:10 PM
oh I want that to wear when people talk about how "chemicals" are bad for you
Thinking of changing my name on most sites to "TRiG the editor". It's by far the bulk of my activity on most sites (and the bulk of my rep on some, not that I really care about that).
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen So you're going to empty out that new queue, good.
> As I mentioned, we're making this available a bit sooner in its development cycle than we would normally make something of this significance available to test.
This explains the remarks after yesterday's meeting.
Management implies somebody knows what is actually going on. You know. In theory.
7:20 PM
So our original goal statement for this queue was, "pisses off everyone who reviews in the normal queues, delights both of the people who click edit in the normal queues"
It does not delight me. I don't like being shouted at by highlighted text in the sidebar. All those exclamation points.
Though not relevant, because <2000 on SO.
Those were meant for @AstroCB
I think this queue would be fantastic if people understood the difference between "Unsalvageable" and "Should be improved" in the triage queue
7:25 PM
I'll admit, sometimes I'll hit a borderline question in the triage queue but at least now I realize what happens after I hit "Should be improved"
@KevinBrown I predict the new queue being mostly a place where people go to open the questions in a new tab and vote to close.
@Shog9 Heh.
For more clarity. I accent key words — Konrad Krakowiak 44 mins ago
what do you think, should I just shorten it to EDIT THE DAMN TITLE, ASTRO!!!
@AstroCB This is the problem with edit summary -> comment.
7:32 PM
I donno... Maybe more people will reply to these now.
Please don't do that, @Konrad. It's no more clear, it's just more bold.Shog9 ♦ 58 secs ago
Title blindness is a common disease.
Alright, who upvoted that?
Granted, bold text makes everything better
Italicizing makes even bold text better
@Shog9 Ok I'm sorry For me it was more clarity I will not do this any more — Konrad Krakowiak 38 secs ago
^ That worked.
7:34 PM
@Shog I was thinking of the title box (I couldn't look back to the queue because I used up all of my reviews).
Then I remembered this:
2 hours ago, by AstroCB
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> No one writes good titles. That's why we put the title edit field after the body - so you'd get to it after having read the body. Think it looks ok? You're probably wrong. Edit it to say something useful.
That was jarring at first, but I like it.
Yes. I actually think this would be a good option for new users. Half the time, we'd be better off picking a random the first sentence from the body than using the title the OP suggests.
I think this addition is going to make clear that "Unsalvageable" is too strong a word for the third option in Triage, and that Should be Improved is too vague.
> Should Be Improved for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable
"by the author" is an option there. So the button suggests using this option for questions where the author needs to add information.
7:46 PM
And then it pushes the question for 3rd parties to edit.
The great mystery has been solved:
A: What's up with this green?

Kurtis BeaversThis was a CSS bug. It's squashed now.

So, my profile pic is now like a rare defective stamp. How much will it bring on eBay?
@FamousBlueRaincoat I think the image answers that question. ;-)

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