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@FamousBlueRaincoat Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

A: How to quickly remove odors from the air?

le sigh

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If you are in a closed room,without windows there is no much to do. Just wait it disappear from the air. If you are in a closed room do not fart on the air,because the only escape to it probably will be a door and if someone get in will be punched right on the face by the smell of your fart.Find ...

let's hear it for lifehacks

> "before you fart, open the windows, stay near it, aiming your butt to the outdoor and fart. Make sure that the wind are not pushing your fart inside the place"

Can we have an equivalent close reason, specific to lifehacks>> NAH - not a hack.

jcolebrand

@FamousBlueRaincoat I know :-( I've been lazy about that and busy on other things. Domain registration is up, host went down.

but thank you

@LynnCrumbling I feel that the only way to determine if a question is suitable for Lifehacks is to already know the answer.

WHY ARE PEOPLE ANSWERING THIS?

^ close->migrate

4:23 PM

shouldn't that be a meta question?

/ migrated to meta

@gunr2171 Yeah, I'd expect a lot of self-answers.

@gunr2171 yep, that's what I voted.

(didn't notice the 2 migration votes) voted to migrate as well

> in StackoverFlow

I suppose they may have answered it, hoping for a migration.. but then again, both answerers are < 1k.

that capitalization

my caps?

4:26 PM

you jumped in before i could layer my second message, I meant for the block quoted text in my message

which comes from the question

oh. hah. sorry.

one more till migration

@LynnCrumbling done

and now time for some edits....

@Mooseman Excellent.

This has to be a dupe.

4:31 PM

@LynnCrumbling stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/c%23+ajax

Or this?

this: stackoverflow.com/q/13227845/656243

That answer gives a pretty detailed code listing.

thoughts?

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Does overcharging an iPhone degrade its life? by Joey p on apple.stackexchange.com

one more cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28829304/656243

^ smokey's catch -- offensive? apple.stackexchange.com/a/175207/104996

the middle word is what I'm wondering about

@LynnCrumbling Doesn't matter if it's offensive or abusive; same flag.

@Mooseman I've been conservative flagging abusive lately.

@Mooseman Flagged it... currently -4.

4:37 PM

abusive at bestA

@JanDvorak thanks

One more, if nobody downvoted.

Is it a positive or a negative side-effect of the tavern that if you accidentally flag spam instead of abusive the flag is still considered helpful?

They carry the same penalty, so it's all good.

This makes absolutely no sense.

4:48 PM

What doesn't?

@JanDvorak It's a faux pas, but that's about it. The user isn't someone that is going to contribute to the site.

too-broad

@JanDvorak The entire thing. It's like saying.. "Hey! I want to use Word in my app. No, not the OLE automation. No, not the classes. No, the whole thing! How can I do that?"

@Mooseman yep.

"Oh - and it has to be the LATEST version of Word."

Until Microsoft releases a stand-alone version of IE, I don't think that's possible

You're asking how to include all of the business logic from IE itself. You can't do that, and you REALLY can't redistribute that IE code as your own. — Lynn Crumbling 33 secs ago

4:54 PM

@LynnCrumbling closed

@gunr2171 Microsoft already has the browser control broken out into it's own reusable business layer. The IE-specific stuff is at the IE layer, but that's what they want to reuse.

@JanDvorak Excellent.

ah, ok

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28837442/656243

^ but which cv to use?

ot-software?

too-broad

I would say OT-general computer

4:56 PM

Those were the 2 close reasons I was considering.

voted ot-su

Closed

Man. I completely missed it.

@61612 You jerk. :)

haha

General software won out.

cv-pls-send-teh-knowledge stackoverflow.com/q/28837496/656243

4:58 PM

Closed

o/\o

@SmokeDetector fp

@ProgramFOX Registered answer as false positive.

Still might be worth an edit

true

user259867

5:08 PM

Yes, and it's 6 chars but I don't want to bother 3 2K users, so...

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: WIF-IE 11 Asp.net session id is not in format by user2273597 on stackoverflow.com

fp

This user's questions are crap.

Will probably hit the Q-ban soon.

@SmokeDetector fp

@ProgramFOX Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

5:20 PM

@ProgramFOX I hope so.

user259867

5:45 PM

@CRags :D I earn much rep because post feedback to almost every featured post, this is not the first one (and today I'll reach my 18th rep cap here on Meta :)). Then I dump it (or donate for charity, as some say :) ). But since yesterday I decided not to dump my rep anymore :D — nicael Feb 24 at 10:09

user259867

No more free 500 bounties from @nicael? What happened on February 23?

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28838416/2301450

Night!

@SmokeDetector delete

Cuss removed

6:00 PM

I started editing that too D:

Q: The arrow in the upvote button is not properly centred!

Shouldn't this question be closed ?

-14

OK, let's take this pic of upvote and downvote buttons: Now we'll look carefully at the downvote button and rotate it: And now rotate the upvote button and look at it: You see it, yeah?

chuckles

Why?

Just asked ..

I am sorry I meant should we close this question or leave it as is ?

Leave it as it is, Roombatron5000 has the possibility of getting a reversal badge from it

6:05 PM

What is a reversal badge ?

+20 answer to a -5 question

Really though, it's an on topic question (just one that some would say is "wrong" and "not needed")

@FamousBlueRaincoat I retired. I decided that I am already too old to work. After all, I am 100.8 years old and my performance is already quite low.

I mean that is not constructive at all..

@nicael Did you get the right answer for your question ?

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is not constructive. — Mooseman 8 secs ago

Andy

cv-pls rec stackoverflow.com/q/28829076/189134

6:14 PM

Surprised to see that the not constructive questions aren't closed while somewhat good questions are closed even before they are answered

6:38 PM

@Computerone It's Meta; most questions aren't really constructive...

A lot of the un-diamonded employees are getting diamonds on M.SE; they must have realized that it causes a bit of confusion.

Shog9

definitely that.

definitely not the core of an undead crystalline army

vote-pls SE employees such as Mr. Shog should have two diamonds after their username.

Couldn't you lower the rep threshold? At least temporarily? The community thinks it's a problem, and I want to help. Only got 1,343 rep, tho. Maybe for us low-reps, we can only see some subset of the queue that is more obvious than the rest. — bjb568 Feb 28 '14 at 3:19

Look how far you've come in a year, @bjb.

7:06 PM

cv-pls unclear stackoverflow.com/questions/28839645/…

feature-request design profile-page

57

Q: Let the upvotes be green!

I already posted this request on MSE in the thread about the new profile page which is only out on Meta.SE and though that it relates only to Meta.SE... But it seems to affect also SO. So, please return green to the upvotes in the summary tab (redesign didn't affect accepts however): Edi...

Hey, @Shog. Above q seems to pertain to many sites, maybe migrate to MSE?

Shog9

meh

ok

On MSO it, however, does even have an advantage: more attention :)

you are way too lazy to vote on it. only 28 votes? just +40/-40?

user259867

7:30 PM

@Mooseman Please no. Double diamonds bring back the memory of SE 1.0 sites. Anything but that.

bummi

terrible question (how to close?) with a more terrible answer: superuser.com/a/885109/172747

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Reading bitmap of sizes not multiple of 8 results in shit (and warp) of pixels by Thalia on stackoverflow.com

user259867

Heh

^ shift?

@SmokeDetector delete, edited

Shift was correct, missing the "f"

7:33 PM

:)

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Sprite collision, i don't even know what I'm doing anymore by Fatnomen on stackoverflow.com

bummi

the number spam in the answers already ... superuser.com/a/885112/172747

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: eeeeeeeeeeeeee j j jijklkl jiojlm,m by Jordanblock on mathoverflow.net

rollback-pls ^

Rolled back and protected, cool

bjb568

@AstroCB :D

7:51 PM

It's called "I posted this question directly from my textbook, but didn't want my professor to find out."

user259867

@61612 The percentage of users who understand what protecting does seems pretty low, considering that one needs 15K for this privilege. Users try to "protect" against deletion, or closure, and here against self-vandalism. Sorry, it doesn't do that...

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp

@FamousBlueRaincoat Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

8:06 PM

@SmokeDetector fp

@rene Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

@FamousBlueRaincoat ahh, I wasn't the one who protected the question, you'd leave a comment to him

Is this on-topic on SF?

I'd say yes

bjb568

Many rains.

8:10 PM

reject-plz stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7224645

user259867

5

@AstroCB rejected

@FamousBlueRaincoat Could use some spell-checking.

user259867

Also, Commit doesn't onebox? I tried.

@AstroCB Why would someone have screwed up perfectly good english?

8:13 PM

@LynnCrumbling I think that was my fault; I must have finished editing it before that user finished suggesting the edit, so it appears that his/her edit reverted mine.

oh..hah

user259867

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/16768705/…

user259867

My flag aged away on that one. :(

@FamousBlueRaincoat That thing's answer is awful spammy.

BUT it's relevent, and there is disclosure.

So... yeah.

le sigh

There's a great plugin for that. — Bram Vanroy 2 hours ago

8:38 PM

I can't reproduce this. When I hide sites, posts from that site are also hidden. — Oded ♦ 4 hours ago

anyone can do it.

or its only Kevin's bug...

user259867

I have nothing to hide.

bjb568

@SmokeDetector fp

@LynnCrumbling I have a couple of meta-related questions. Usually I wait until Frank is around and bug him, but since you were nice to me on Friday, I thought I'd ask you, if you don't mind...

@Sue sure, fire away.

Q: Prevent all caps titles in Careers posts

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Could we implement some rules about all caps titles in Careers posts ? We have the quality filter to deal with questions/answers in all caps on the main site, but there doesn't seem to be anything like that for Careers. This almost looks like spam ads especially in the sidebar like that, I don...

feature-request careers

good one.

8:49 PM

Thanks! First, is there any place in our profile (site or network) that lists the votes we've made on comments?

votes on comments... interesting.

They do count towards our daily vote limit, right?

@nicael Are you sure that's what she means?

@nicael I see comments, but not upvotes on comments.

@LynnCrumbling ah, votes...

No - upvotes on comments don't count.

user259867

8:53 PM

@Sue Comment votes have their own daily limit, which is 30 iirc.

It's just kind of a nod that the comment was useful.

I don't know if there's a UI to see upvotes on comments. Might need a SEDE query. Can anyone else confirm?

@FamousBlueRaincoat Oh. I couldn't quite tell from the "privileges" page.

user259867

@Sue The Complete Rate-Limiting Guide is the ultimate source of obscure information about all kinds of limits.

user259867

I just learned that the daily limit of 30 is not for comment upvotes specifically, but for comment upvotes and comment deletes combined... Who knew? Who cared?

Q: Should we have an ability to see others' consecutive days?

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I ran into a user whose next badge was "Fanatic": This clearly reveals his/her consecutive days. Should they really be displayed to everyone?

discussion consecutive-days

9:02 PM

@FamousBlueRaincoat That's a cool guide! I was just curious because I was in a voting mood one day on GL and got to my limit, and a badge:) using questions, answers and comments. I must have had enough without the comments.

@nicael That's an interesting question and a good point...

I feel there is a dupe somewhere... I saw something similar but can't find...

@nicael It will be interesting to see what people think.

Someone's at the door. Thanks for your help, will be back later with my other question!

Q: Visited link on the main page has a confusing coloring

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In my example, green circles are put around those links which I didn't visit; visited links I circled with red. As you see, in the visited link only "modified" is colored, while the whole "modified X [secs/mins/hrs] ago USER_NAME" is a link. I think the whole visited link should be colored...

feature-request design

9:20 PM

one-cv-pls software rec stackoverflow.com/questions/28841287/django-api-composer

Close voted but I'm already out of votes so that didn't help

Why is there a suggested edit queue on MSO if there are no suggested edits allowed on per-site metas?

There are only 2 done today. I might be missing something.

@gunr2171 source?

I know on some metas you can't, but I don't think SO is one of them

That's what I thought...let me check again

support suggested-edits meta

9:25 PM

(like Meta.Patents, as I learned yesterday)

6

I really don't get the purpose of forbidding suggested edits on Meta. Why are they not allowed?

@gunr2171 Closey doesn't have enough rep?

Closey has enough rep to talk in chat

@gunr2171 Tag wiki edits.

ok, that's what I was thinking after re-reading the tool tip

9:28 PM

So? That does make it eligible for suggesting edits?

ok, so a < 2k user can only suggest edits on tag wikis, not posts. that makes sense

I'm trying to keep that meta post on meta btw... three people agree with me, 3 people close voted...

and that post I used as an example was probably a bad example. I just clicked a link at random from the home page

@gunr2171 Yeah that was what I was getting from this

ok, good

9:32 PM

Jus blame Closey

that too

If Closey ever gets 3k, we are all in trouble

Yes, deep trouble...

I flagged the meta post for a mod

@hichris123 do MSO flags get handled quickly?

Yes, this is fine. Moderators are not on top of the Meta flag queue as much as the one on the main site, so it might take us a while to notice the flag, but it's really no bother to take care of stuff like this. Only mods and SE employees can add this tag, and it only takes a moment. Flag away. — Bill the Lizard ♦ Nov 21 '14 at 23:52

hmmm

@rene From my experience, it can take a day or two depending on the severity.

9:43 PM

Is the general review history a privilege?

yes

really?

10k I beleive

thats......ok

explains this: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/21891929#21891929

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: "Main.c has stopped working" No idea why by Sean Nguyen on stackoverflow.com

9:44 PM

^ comment in the middle of the code block

Yep, its in the 10k Privilege description

Right at the beginning of the main method

: ( well thanks for finding out for me

buried of course

@KevinBrown oh, it's in there twice

Q: Как сложить два числа, используя jQuery

9:48 PM

-1

Proposal: Stack Overflow (in Russian)

technology

Wut...

cv-pls broad stackoverflow.com/q/28837723/656243

@BradleyDotNET Ah, you visit here, eh?

Somebody plz tell him this is not the right place

@nicael "How to add two numbers using jQuery"

@LynnCrumbling Not often

says google translate

9:49 PM

@BradleyDotNET That's good; it's a horrible place. :P

@gunr2171 so flag - ot?

@gunr2171 :DD

Lol

Reminds me about jquery diet plugin :D

-1, not enough jQuery.

2

$('.message[author='Lynn Crumbling']').replyTo("-1, not enough jQuery");

But seriously plz tell him that it is not the right place and so.ru wasn't launched yet...

9:53 PM

@gunr2171 nice.

This site is for discussing new sites, not for asking questions that will appear on the site. Remember that Stack Overflow in Russian has not launched yet. — gunr2171 9 secs ago

also, oh my god that url when you copy the link for a comment

Yep :D

Funny

Do you not like cyrillic in URLs?

^ speaking of god... when you look at the user's SU profile, his name is Jesus Christ

I feel a conspiracy theory emerging

A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

9:56 PM

1

status-declined - this graph is not meant to be a fully featured reputation history graph. Maybe you would consider showing the mini-tiny-cute graph since the moment when I created my account there, or make it scrollable? I am sure that I started from 101 rep, not from 2.7k.

#jesuswasrussian ?

Declined. Halp

That's a pity...

Anyway I'm leaving. — Hiago Silverio 3 mins ago

goodbye

@rene depends.

Ok can you ping an SO mod in the TL to handle my MSO flag? @hichris123

9:58 PM

@rene If it's pretty important, sure.

well...

Doorknob

What'd you flag?

ok, i'm the last close voter. now the post is locked

@hichris123 nevermind / done

This OP's comments are ... sigh .. horrible.

10:00 PM

@rene ok.

@bummi up late, eh?

bummi

mostly :)

hey @rene - what's this all about?

A note for the close voters: If closed this gets migrated back to main. Not a good plan. — rene 45 mins ago

@gunr2171 Has some drama in the profile: meta.stackoverflow.com/users/4609295/edit-my-name-noob

Am I to understand that closed meta posts that were migrated .. will get moved back?

10:03 PM

Yeah

but MichealT made a good point

@rene So if we had closed it dup, it would have stayed?

Q: Why did Stack Overflow try to perform a forbidden tcp connection to my IP?

3

I tuned my router's iptables configuration. And just for fun tried monitoring the blacklisted IPs (through the recent module) And it turns out that one of the blacklisted IPs belong to Stack Overflow... root@cortex:/# cat /proc/net/xt_recent/TCP_BLACKLIST src=128.61.240.66 ttl: 240 last_seen: ...

@LynnCrumbling Yeah

bummer.

I think this is the main question: stackoverflow.com/questions/28841814/…

42

A: Allow diamond moderators to reverse question migrations?

status-completed... sort of. It's now possible to reject a migration, but rather than making this some special mod-only thing or yet another privilege/task you have to familiarize yourself with, it's instead a function of closing/deleting. If a migrated question is closed on the destination (mi...

Q: stackexchange.com is sending me unsolicited packets (and consequently gets blocked by firewall)

10:09 PM

-1

I am using a rather restrictive firewall on my machine, mostly to block potential port scanning. If any IP address sends me a unsolicited packet (packet that is not a response to my query) the IP address gets blocked for X minutes. -A INPUT -i wlan0 -m recent --name PORTSCAN --update --seconds ...

support bug

Websockets were my guess

Jeff Atwood is knocking on your firewall with his giant-S

4

lul

Yup, it's the websockets.

delv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28841814/…

10:12 PM

@hichris123 I'll bite; what are websockets used for?

new answers/questions/ rep update

@rene btw- I did flag this for mod attn + note about profile rant/swearing

^^

@rene Ahh, ok.

Basically real-time data.

10:13 PM

@hichris123 so the browsers don't hit a webservice (polling) for changes?

@LynnCrumbling Well, kinda. The way the websockets work is the client registers for updates, but after that, the client doesn't poll -- the server sends out a packet when the data changes.

@hichris123 Wow. Didn't know that.

@LynnCrumbling Oh, due to me being Dutch didn't detect that as swearing....

@rene no problem..

@LynnCrumbling here is some tech speech on the subject: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/218343/…

10:16 PM

@rene nice! Thanks :)

@nicael Just curious-was that my profile? I didn't realize until I just looked at my profile that it could be me!

Yep :)

Am back from work...

@Frank I'm hearing horror stories about 30. I think I'll stay here for a bit.

10:31 PM

@LynnCrumbling good idea. Took me an hour to drive from Lancaster to Quarryville...

They were driving so slow...

@Frank Wow.

If you have a 4x4 truck, it's not too bad, but it's just all the slow traffic...

It'll be worse at rush hour

Ice locked my truck door closed - with my scraper inside.

Had to 'break the ice' with my hand

A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

0

In the "profile" tab, after my top tags, those badge icons link to the corresponding tag badges. Please implement there, in the "activity" tab, similar functionality.

@nicael Cool-now I get a number added to my profile view! I appreciate you bringing it up. Personally, I'm kind of an open book type, but will agree because users need a bit more privacy than we have. I still don't know who can see what, so I need to spend more time looking at others!

@Frank You guys having a storm?

Dumb question-is there a way to bookmark a conversation while I'm in the room?

user259867

@Sue Click room▼ on the right, select create new bookmark

10:47 PM

@FamousBlueRaincoat Perfect! Thanks!

@Sue ice storm. :-/

@Sue ice.

@Sue Didn't I tell you one time in the Shed?

maybe that was someone else...

@Frank That was me, but I think I asked how to do it from outside the room, cuz I couldn't get it to work. Unless you already told me this, in which case, sorry @Famous!

@Sue Huh? oh.

ider

@Frank Took me a while to get that!

@LynnCrumbling You in the ice storm too? Be careful...

10:56 PM

@Sue Yeah, I'm 45 minutes west at the moment, but same conditions here.

@Sue oh, sorry...

(well, at least what would normally be 45 minutes.)

Does everyone have that big

alert in the mobile chat when deleting

?

If so, I gunna report it.