Tavern on the Meta

bluet

12:07 AM

@Frank I mentioned you in this answer

100+ lqp's stackoverflow.com/review

Frank

12:45 AM

@bluet Ok

bluet

i know how you are like the only such user on SO! just givin props where they do

bjb568

VLQ stackoverflow.com/q/27975618/2371861

Frank

@bluet Correct. Now I'm like the only SO user with no posts but comments, or any edit rep, that has the electorate badge also. There is one other, but he has 'please delete me' in his about me

Which would be this user. He and I are the only 101 rep users who have 0 rep gain and 2 gold.

@bluet In the answer, you said I haven't left any comments. Actually, I think I left about ten pointer comments, under naa's which were then deleted.

bluet

@Frank i see, not going to worry about that technicality

Frank

yeah not really important

@bluet I wonder if that user knows about this query for auto-delete comments

bluet

1:05 AM

@Frank k left him a comment

hichris123

Yay, I get to use "the Tavern" in an English essay!

bluet

@hichris123 make sure to state that it's not a "real" tavern or else teacher may call your parents

hichris123

lol it's from a book

Frank

@hichris123 nice

bjb568

1:30 AM

> Oh, she is lame! Love’s heralds should be thoughts,
> Which ten times faster glide than the sun’s beams,

O_O

y u no relativity, shakespear?

> But old folks, many feign as they were dead,
> Unwieldy, slow, heavy, and pale as lead.

I do like that tho.

user259867

@hichris123 I recall a bar (located near a university) which was named "The Library", so that students could honestly tell their parents where they spend their evenings.

6

hichris123

lol

That's perfect.

Unihedro

"Night at the library"

Braiam

@hichris123 Here we have motels called "The Office", so...

bjb568

ohey, SO design change

when'd it roll out?

user259867

1:44 AM

My guess: very recently, since nobody said anything on Meta yet.

user259867

ExpressionEngine design rolled out yesterday, but this is not necessarily related.

hichris123

@bjb568 A few minutes ago.

bjb568

noice

Andrew T.

+1 for new design, since it uses proper color for links, no excessive whitespaces between comment... umm, what's the rest of the changes?

hichris123

^ that. :P

user259867

1:52 AM

@AndrewT. Page width 1000px instead of 950px

Braiam

anyone using 1024x768 see a horizontal scroll bar?

Doorknob

@AndrewT. The buttons are all bright blue! Slightly disconcerting at first, but in general the new design looks great

user259867

@Braiam No device, but setting 1024 width in Firefox "responsive design" tool creates some horizontal scrolling.

hichris123

@Braiam 1024x768? Ouch.

Undo

SR is going to be tough to design for :P

because yes, we're gonna graduate.

user259867

1:58 AM

Gardening would have a nice green design...

hichris123

ES works with blue.

user259867

Too many blue sites already.

user259867

Since it's earth, it should be brown.

hichris123

Or that too.

I was thinking the sky.

Or water.

Braiam

@Undo ohhh

hichris123

2:05 AM

Do I have enough stuff open? :P

Undo

@hichris123 no

you don't even have Atom running

hichris123

But I'm using 9.5 GB of RAM!

(to be fair, 6 GB of that is the VM, so...)

@Undo I don't really like Atom.

Undo

Me likes

Braiam

/me uses whatever is easier to use at the moment

user259867

@Braiam This may even be a bug. There is no need for left-right padding on #content, it's just empty space. They set padding to 15px all around, so adding it to 1000px width results in 1030>1024.

Andrew T.

2:08 AM

0

Q: I think this may be off-topic problem

Recently (today maybe) has changed the predefined comment for Other reason when closing a question as Off-Topic from: This question appears to be off-topic because <place for the reason> to I think this may be off-topic because <place for the reason> I'm not a native English speaker, ...

hichris123

Tavern voting ring much? :P

Andrew T.

I... didn't expect that actually :/

Undo

2:29 AM

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 22 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Mario to Cheap Fifa 15 Coins by user48938 on webmasters.stackexchange.com

bjb568

0

A: I think this may be off-topic problem

I think this may be off-topic because I think many things, but what's that have to do with anything? The whole thing uses weak language. "appears to be off-topic" is much better and concrete. Roll back to the old version!

Undo

wow those buttons are blue

Andrew T.

Blue/Orange

bjb568

Oh oops, forgot my bio binder… Luckily, I can do the hw in ~8m, unluckily, I'll have to do it at lunch.

sad kitten face

Doorknob

okay you can stop now

user259867

3:06 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/144390/…

Andrew T.

early

bjb568

+1 quality spam

user259867

@AndrewT. Yes, I have just loaded my extension after some debugging, and this dropped right in.

Unihedro

Early spammers gets the flags

2

AstroCB

Stack Overflow redesign.

user259867

3:07 AM

gone

user259867

@Unihedro *spammer

user259867

for consistency with the original, and grammar rules

Andrew T.

@AstroCB Yes, and some(?) users already request to go back to the old design

user259867

^ shocked

user259867

:)

AstroCB

3:09 AM

It finally looks good on a Retina display.

I'm surprised they didn't have a Meta post ready to go as soon as it rolled out.

Unihedro

Mobile version hasn't changed.

user259867

Mobile CSS is the same for all sites.

user259867

@AstroCB They hoped that users would not notice the displacement of their cheese by 25 pixels.

bjb568

@AstroCB it's still meh

Unihedro

Lol I love how you put the reference, shut up and take my axe

AstroCB

3:12 AM

@bjb568 It's better than that pixelated mess of a logo that was there before.

Unihedro

I will acquire an axe. Then you can have it.

AstroCB

Does review look any different? I'm banned for a month.

bjb568

Andrew T.

41 mins ago, by Undo

wow those buttons are blue

bjb568

503

AstroCB

3:13 AM

@AndrewT. I saw the close votes menu; anything in the queues?

Shokhet

-1

Q: Fonts while viewing stackoverflow appear strange in google chrome on Mac

The fonts looks great until this morning, the font lose its bold style as you can see in the pictures, it used to be bold and now it is tiny, and plus, all code blocks in the pages looks smaller, I don't know why. I captured the first image which has bold font as it is a web page that is opened y...

support user-interface fonts font-size

bjb568

back up

Why did SO just 503 for 30s?

It wasn't even a proper down for maintenance message.

It was just a blank plain 503 page.

*complains to @anna *

Unihedro

bjb568

@Unihedro -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;

Unihedro

I do not like. :(

Andrew T.

3:15 AM

it's awful on desktop mode lol

Unihedro

Probably looks like ducks on inversion at home.

bjb568

That color of blue is the worst color for reproduction on my display and all I've seen.

It looks like there are horizontal lines thru it.

Subpixels or something.

Unihedro

I like cyan. Or darker blue, since inversion does well

Maybe I'll write a userstyle.

Andrew T.

well, I think orange is the complementary color of blue

I guess someone is using color inversion when designing the page.

user259867

I think that's yellow?

Unihedro

3:18 AM

Dark orange is outrageously ugly, @AndrewT.

It's not even golden, it's just, ugh

bjb568

stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/6757333

Anna Lear

@bjb568 not my fault

bjb568

Distribute the blame!

Oh yeah, there's a wheel for that!

It's balpha's fault!

Unihedro

Rawr!

bjb568

Rawr!

hichris123

3:23 AM

@AnnaLear We totally need the bot for that in here. feature-request

bjb568

Yay, going to bed early, homework delayed to 3-day weekend.

But wash of parasites first!

user259867

3:38 AM

@hichris123 Speaking of bots. A thing that has worked well for me is identifying new users by their IDs (which websockets provide). My script keeps a list of maximal userIds for each site, which is updated every time the maximum increases. A user is considered new if their Id > max -10 (or some other arbitrary offset). The benefit of doing this preliminary step is that one can be more aggressive with detection without generating a ton of false positives.

AstroCB

I feel like my votes don't have as much weight because I'm used to these giant voting buttons on SO.

And now they're pretty tiny.

Unihedro

Oh god

The tags are... orange

Everything is orange

user259867

What's wrong with orange??!!

Unihedro

The titles are orange

The "Post your answer" button is orange

The VTC dialogue is... orange...

user259867

3

Unihedro

3:46 AM

AAAAAAHHHHH

Your pic is orange!!

AstroCB

Now time to check if the redesign broke any userscripts...

user259867

@Unihedro We are The Orange. Resistance is futile.

Unihedro

Is this you @Fundamental? ^

Andrew T.

Ah, the userscript... I wonder how SOUP will be affected...

hichris123

Ooh, good idea @Fundamental.

user259867

3:49 AM

I don't play games, so... probably not.

Unihedro

But it's an orange triangle trinket gem thingy

hichris123

Speaking of which: Smokey is off for the Tavern right now until we can get the fp's down.

Unihedro

Pham to the rescue!

Wait, is Pham on?

user259867

To follow Smokey's reports meanwhile, see Charcoal HQ.

AstroCB

I'm up to a 1k tag score in discussion on Meta.SO, but to get the gold tag badge, I need 111 more posts...

hichris123

3:52 AM

I'll turn my bot on soon, but please don't annoy me with pings. :)

3

Unihedro

Sure!

AstroCB

Unnecessary code formatting: stackoverflow.com/questions/27977044/…

hichris123

(that means boolean pings if you want, but please try to keep it to one reply per fp/tp)

user259867

@AstroCB I was in a somewhat similar position on meta.Math: tons of points, not enough answers. Solution: go through the list of answers:0 [discussion] posts, leaving something as an answer. Although for 111 that might be difficult.

user259867

<-- (First and so far, only, gold tag badge on meta.math)

user259867

3:56 AM

@hichris123 any reason not to have 321chrisbye posting those?

hichris123

@Fundamental I'd have to get a sock to 20 rep. :P

bjb568

Hallo

N bai

Nightynighty!

user259867

4:31 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/144395/…

bluet

5:09 AM

@AstroCB now the width is the same on meta.SO/SO , except the top bar seems to be misaligned by like 6px or so

user259867

Awfully quiet here, with spam sitting there for 40 minutes. Everyone ran away after seeing the new SO design.

DroidDev

@Fundamental wait...what new design?

user259867

Meta.SO is up in flames over it...

DroidDev

oh that!

2 days ago, by DroidDev

why is MSO so many pinkz, it lookz like server faultz

user259867

No, now it's the main site redesigned. Meta it's where it's being discussed. And in this room too.

DroidDev

5:18 AM

so they are going to copy those designs to SO?

SO. NOT. COOL.

user259867

They already did. Hit refresh maybe?

DroidDev

yup, just did...font is looking more small at even 120% now :/

Unihedro

Can someone please make a userscript/style to give the "classic look"?

DroidDev

code blocks are more colourful now...maybe we can take part in fancy dress competition with this...

Andrew T.

@Unihedro not yet there, but almost

bluet

5:27 AM

lacking so much orange, way too blue , and then pink for favorited tag posts

and the questions number stackoverflow.com/questions is so tiny now! looks like we would need a hundred billion more to even overflow the line...

Unihedro

@bluet Are you kidding? It's all orange here on inverted colors!

bluet

:O

Andrew T.

It's oranget from Unihedron's view.

bluet

the review action buttons are blue!

omg

Andrew T.

Anyway, bots and spammers are quiet...

Unihedro

5:33 AM

@bluet no they're orange

It's all orange!!!

bluet

design-fail inverted colors look better than non-inverted color scheme

Unihedro

But me likes blue, not orange!

DroidDev

@Unihedro DISABL DAT THEME

:P

user259867

@AndrewT. Yes, except that drupal spam post that's over an hour old. :/

Unihedro

@DroidDev Then I will see white background. I dislike white more than orange.

DroidDev

5:36 AM

:-|

bluet

anna needs to press the undo button

Andrew T.

2 hours ago, by Anna Lear

@bjb568 not my fault

bluet

fine, she can just hit undo then

user259867

drupal spam gone \o/. Indeed, quiet today.

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/144401/…

user259867

5:51 AM

just as I said that :/

user259867

They are now using BBcode! [url=blah.blah]Enhance SD[/url]

Unihedro

6:06 AM

LQ spammers uses BBCode.

user259867

gone now, btw

bluet

relevant ell.stackexchange.com/questions/46858/…

user259867

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Need Oracle spatial tutorials by nawaz on gis.stackexchange.com

user259867

Just NAA or abuse?

user259867

I flagged NAA

Andrew T.

6:14 AM

NAA

bluet

!!/alive?

user259867

2 hours ago, by hichris123

Speaking of which: Smokey is off for the Tavern right now until we can get the fp's down.

user259867

2 hours ago, by Fundamental

To follow Smokey's reports meanwhile, see Charcoal HQ.

Unihedro

2 hours ago, by hichris123

I'll turn my bot on soon, but please don't annoy me with pings. :)

Andy

spam stackoverflow.com/a/27978278/189134

troll stackoverflow.com/a/27978210/189134

troll 2 stackoverflow.com/a/27978292/189134

bluet

6:27 AM

good thing about new design is the questions asked count won't bug up until the tenth trillion question is asked meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/271436/…

Andy

@bluet So sometime in 6-8, we should start worrying

bluet

status-20percent-gettingused-tonew-design

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls Nuke pls - abusive/spam stackoverflow.com/questions/27978413/…

SilentKiller

Morning!

bluet

Morning1

user259867

6:42 AM

Morning! Orange! Flat! Blue! Logo! Font! [summary of the day so far]

bluet

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/247164/…

user259867

^ Smokey caught that based on blacklisted website in the post body.

user259867

(Balancing the criticism that the bot got recently)

bluet

:)

Andrew T.

spam behind shortened link android.stackexchange.com/a/95998/44325

apparently android.se spammers are a bit... smarter...

SilentKiller

6:55 AM

spammers become smarter

user259867

Generally, spammers that post answers are smarter. And the absence of network-side websocket for answers makes them even harder to catch.

user259867

SPAM android.stackexchange.com/questions/95999/…

user259867

^ dumb android spammer, for comparison.

Andrew T.

ironically, by same user.

Jan Dvorak

Don't comment on spam

DroidDev

7:01 AM

cv-plz dupe stackoverflow.com/q/27978810/2389078

gnat

NSFW picture in user profile (they have posts where it is visible to site visitors): stackexchange.com/users/5013726/yazz-ide

Jan Dvorak

and now it's visible to us as well

Unihedro

Well, thanks for posting it here, it gave me a heart attack

user259867

@gnat I think it'd be better to flag their post on a site with active moderatorship: Prog.se or AU.

SilentKiller

get well soon #uni. ;)

Jan Dvorak

7:03 AM

In fact, we may as well flag your repost, too

SilentKiller

@gnat you should delete this post (image one)

Andrew T.

I think it's too late

bluet

the pic is no worse than any animating gif

user259867

If you encounter a hex bolt, but you only brought screwdrivers, you can try sandwiching the head of the bolt between two parallel screwdriver shafts, squeezing the screwdrivers together with a hand at either end, then twisting. It doesn't work and it's a great way to hurt yourself, but you can try it!

user259867

I guess it's scroll-stuff-up time...

Jan Dvorak

7:15 AM

> Yes, facecam. I'll be sure not to pick my nose this time.

gnat

@Fundamental done that. If anything else needs to do, let me know. @SilentKiller too late for me to do this, flagged for moderator to delete

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/144406/work-out-and-achieve

Andrew T.

poof

SilentKiller

spam gone ^

DroidDev

7:36 AM

cv-plz Give me teh codez stackoverflow.com/q/27979208/2389078

Unihedro

8:29 AM

Is there a name for the design principle that a given construct should only do one thing?

Jan Dvorak

single responsibility principle, you mean?

Unihedro

Isn't that for classes?

From SOLID

Single responsibility principle

In object-oriented programming, the single responsibility principle states that every class should have a single responsibility, and that responsibility should be entirely encapsulated by the class. All its services should be narrowly aligned with that responsibility. The term was introduced by Robert C. Martin in an article by the same name as part of his Principles of Object Oriented Design, made popular by his book Agile Software Development, Principles, Patterns, and Practices. Martin described it as being based on the principle of cohesion, as described by Tom DeMarco in his book Structured...

I was told that nesting assignments and postfix operators are bad.

It probably is, but I wanted citation.

Jan Dvorak

8:47 AM

You probably want evaluation order invariance

Unihedro

Thanks!

hichris123

9:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 56.1904: I want to buy a DSLR on photo.stackexchange.com

Sam

@hichris123 All the best with that :P

Andrew T.

flagged as off-topic

Bart

10:57 AM

Hmm, nothing caught this spam? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/247175/…

SilentKiller

its gone.

Sam

@Bart Pham and Smokey weren't running.

Bart

Ah, that would explain it...

Sam

I'm just gonna start up Pham though...

>>status

Pham

@Sam <- is awesome as usual.

Unihedro

11:03 AM

At least Pham would have had a good rest while we were chatting. :P

Pham

Low Quality Q (84.1%): from where will i get a polarising glass to replace it on dell monitor?, by swastik hande, on physics.stackexchange.com.

Sam

lol

SilentKiller

lol

Sam

Just a little note about Pham: FP/TPing reports is no longer necessary (although you can still do so if you wish).

Jan Dvorak

In the tavern, you mean?

Sam

11:10 AM

Nope, everywhere.

In a weeks time he'll check back on every posted report to see the post's current status and determine whether it's a TP or FP. Pretty simple really.

Mooseman

>>env

Pham

@Mooseman
Cores (logical): 2
Total RAM: 2.96167GB
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
64-bit: False
CLR version: 4.0.30319.18444

Jan Dvorak

2.96 GB RAM?

Sam

>>stats has also been revamped.

Bart

Is there ever a design change that doesn't somehow seem to hurt people's eyes?

bummi

11:14 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/21128309/1699210 You voted to close this question May 11 '14 at 21:33

Sam

@JanDvorak Yeah. Rounding errors.

Jan Dvorak

I heard that on some Pentiums 1+1 is 2.0000000000001, but this is over the top...

Sam

Meh, nothing a little rounding can't solve.

Mooseman

Don't query anything. Just use math.random(). Nobody will ever know...

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/6338158/1699210

Sam

11:18 AM

@Mooseman Yeah: 73.2017696313GB RAM looks fine.

Mooseman

@Sam Well you still gotta round it... ;)

DroidDev

@bummi looks like a spam. Every single person on that thread is at 1 rep

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 53.7956: PHP , SQL Resource id #10 . How can i get the value? on stackoverflow.com

bummi

@DroidDev I don't want to judge, just get deleted the crap

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/3518972/1699210

Sam

>>env

Pham

11:21 AM

@Sam
Cores (logical): 2
Total RAM: 3GB
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
64-bit: False
CLR version: 4.0.30319.18444

lies...

status-completed

>>env

Blame Microsoft. I know I've got 3 gigs.

Pham

@DroidDev
Cores (logical): 2
Total RAM: 3GB
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
64-bit: False
CLR version: 4.0.30319.18444

Mooseman

11:22 AM

upvote-pls meta.photo.stackexchange.com/a/4654/35127

Unihedro

^ shameless self promotion

:D

DroidDev

@Mooseman !haveAnAccount

Sam

@Mooseman Already have ;)

Jan Dvorak

@Mooseman this chat comment is not relevant or useful, but promotional

SilentKiller

@Mooseman !haveAnAccount

Spam comment ^^ xD

Mooseman

11:24 AM

@JanDvorak But it's for a good cause...

Sam

~ The Mooseman Charity Foundation.

2

Jan Dvorak

Charlie Hebdo being sold worldwide. This is why you don't shoot people, islamic extremists!

2

Jan Dvorak

11:39 AM

@BartekBanachewicz that wasn't nice what just got flagged of yours

Vogel612's Shadow

@JanDvorak lol you saw that?

Jan Dvorak

@Vogel612'sShadow With a blue bubble

Sam

@Pham del

Pham

Spam Q (91.1%): You can do today and do everyday, by sonia chuadry, on meta.stackexchange.com.

user259867

x4facts.com has been active lately

bummi

11:42 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/973211/1699210 rec

Sam

and optimalstackfacts.com

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1167424/1699210 rec

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1070049/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/5041851/1699210 rec pob

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/2492525/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1121085/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/2279121/1699210

Louis

cv-pls-duplicate stackoverflow.com/questions/27982234/…

This is another instance of the famous NullPointerException in Java...

Sam

CV'd all.

(Well, I think I got all of 'em.)

bummi

@Sam there is a spotter ... did you find him I hesitate to flag him already ....

Mooseman

11:47 AM

CV ALL THE THINGS

Sam

@bummi A "spotter"? Erm, nope.

bummi

@Sam one person spamming for Designite and sometimes a book

Sam

@bummi Oh, right. No, I don't recall seeing any spammers.

Then again, I wasn't actually looking for them.

Mooseman

2

SilentKiller

lols

is it a cheese cutter ?;)

Jan Dvorak

11:54 AM

death toll: 300x bottomless pit

Sam

burn-with-fire-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/27982888/…

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