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12:00 AM
"A teacher overheard him say that he was using PHP, and as part of our Zero-Tolerance policy against drug use, he was immediately suspended. No questions asked," said Principal Clyde Thurlow. "We're not quite sure what PHP is, but we suspect it may be a derivative of PCP, or maybe a new designer drug like GHB."
@hichris123 No.
anyway, as far as I know, there's a mod tool that can find correlations between users magically
@TheWobbuffet You cannot get the MAC address. The MAC address is not transmitted outside the physical segment of the source. It wouldn't even make it past the client's router.
@TheWobbuffet that has to be trolling
Must be... read the end
12:03 AM
@TheWobbuffet How'd you find that?
Doorknob sent me a link on skype
@Braiam that's Mr. Community♦ to you. :P — terdon ♦ 9 mins ago
@Braiam "Mister" Community♦ LOL
Anyway, I don't see how it could be harmful for the community to know how this mod tool works
@TheWobbuffet Because people can try to get around it.
12:07 AM
@TheWobbuffet You don't even need to read the end. bbspot is a tech humor blog.
@hichris123 I bet there's a website that lists even more things than the mod tool does
@TheWobbuffet ... maybe? I'm not sure what you're getting at. The mod tools aren't revealed as then people can say, "They figured out my voting ring because of ______________. I should do ___________."
Q: Reference tag of any site in chat

MoosemanRight now, in chat, we can use [tag:tagname] and [meta-tag:tagname]. But in MSE chat, I think it would be useful to reference a tag on any site through this format. For example: [tag-stackoverflow.com:tagname] or [tag-puzzling.stackexchange.com:tagname] Is this possible reasonably doable?

@TheWobbuffet I have no idea how SO's works but typically, at least in other places I've seen / worked on, the most basic way is to maintain a list of IP addresses that have been seen from a given account. Then if another account is seen from one of those addresses, there is now a correlation between all addresses of both accounts. Sort of, union-find on IP addresses.
I would imagine something like that is at least the basis.
Plus whatever other info SE chooses to include there, e.g. email addresses, etc.
12:11 AM
yeah, but without any ip relations?
and other than email addresses
someone told me it can go further... they said they have a mod agreement so they can't tell me more
A few old screenshots of mod tools. They may have built more since then.
like further than rep stuff
@TheWobbuffet Who knows. If you have access to the entire activity database, and you have sets of users you know to be equivalent and sets you don't, I'm sure you could do some data mining and find all sorts of patterns to watch out for.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii check the first comment
12:14 AM
E.g. certain types of edits consistently done on user A's posts from user B, comments left, etc. Imagine, for example, all the strange patterns that would emerge if a user with a duplicate account consistently forgot which account he was logged into.
@TheWobbuffet Most of the mod tools are documented on Meta Stack Exchange (not always in ways that are easy to find when you need it). Some of the details are confidential (sometimes even to mods, e.g. heuristics to detect possible fraud) because that way, people who want to do things like vote fraud have to do some trial and error to figure out what falls under the radar and what doesn't.
The tools evolve, not very fast but fast enough that by the time someone figures out enough to be useful, the thresholds won't be exactly the same.
Fraudsters are by and large interested in gaining things for their own (mainly to gain reputation to look good, to spam, or to troll), so they tend to have little interest in collaboration.
@Gilles mmm... spam...
well, then
im going to do this terrible thing called homework now
I have homework every single day, even on weekends (which I do on Sunday)
For people who are unfamiliar with 'homework' :P
I guess it's like business paperwork
Anyone here own a small business building? Then you get it, maybe
Or hichris who is around my age... :P
@TheWobbuffet just posted 7 messages in a row. TRAIN ALERT!
12:32 AM
@TheWobbuffet Or meeeee!
Doorknob, Santa, AstroCB, Qantas94Heavy
I also have a pile of homework on my desk... it stubbornly refuses to grade itself.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii f's all around!
12:48 AM
@Rafflesiaarnoldii Give somebody an E-. Make them look twice.
@bjb568 And Undo
@Mooseman Wat?
That php thing made me think of this:
@TheWobbuffet he's addict to water... wtf?
@Braiam That took you a while…
Oh good. DHMO needs more awareness.
12:59 AM
I especially love
> Dihydrogen Monoxide is linked to gun violence
@BenCollins Check out one of the originals web.archive.org/web/19961031232918/http://media.circus.com/… (circa 1996)
> ... in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
how have I never seen this before? it's hysterical!
> Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal.
I'm going to introduce this as a resolution at my next political convention and see who bites =P
@BenCollins There was a counter site, too; armory.com/~crisper/DHMO
Ah here you go Ben: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax all the history you want
this is great. we have a guy in our local party who introduces a chemtrails resolution every single time, so I should do this right after that
I would have to practice for months to be able to pull it off with a straight face
^ Model of a straight face
1:07 AM
@BenCollins eh? but your innocent and clueless tiger face should help, no?
I would have to print it out and hold it in front of my real face
Yes, talk about dihydrogen monoxide while holding up a hobbes mask at your next town meeting. I support this on so many levels.
I'm sure it will go over well.
Dihydrogen Monoxide is deadly through inhalation
Kittens have drowned in dihydrogen monoxide.
1:21 AM
dihydrogen monoxide is used as a pesticide for killing bugs, but can be harmful to humans when mixed with sodium or in greater quantities
Hey, in theory, I can uses careers.se to see if se is hiring in nyc, right?
Oh I totally can
Man it's all web development. Curse you, NYC. Same problem I had when I moved here. All web dev or boring stuff in finance.
Of course it's all web development, it's a web site.
Work for devdoodle! Check my pull request!
Oh yeah, you don't even have access to the repo.
Lol: bit.ly/1ut4M85 Turn right 90 degrees.
1:41 AM
They were also hiring a Data Scientist last time I checked. Or rather, Data Science Engineer.
@BenCollins I know you work(ed) on the iOS app, but a) are you still working on it, and b) if not, are you working on the ML stuff? Just curious.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii That looks like an interesting position, actually
@JasonC Wasn't what I expected to see there. I was expecting a group of people just staring at me
@hichris123 ML?
@bjb568 machine learning.
1:48 AM
Anyone active?
Just bots in this room
@hichris123 Yup
ooh maybe I can try commands
go into house
light fireplace
go south
enter stream
1:49 AM
!!/yell at @euphoriaoverlord
I have a serious question
Q: Beta site degrading in quality, per-site Meta discussion reveals that it's not perceived as a issue; what more can I do?

euphoria overlordPer JoshCaswell's advice: This is quite specific to Puzzling at the moment, and I think it's really more appropriate for that Meta; I understand, however, that this topic is already open there, and you don't feel that it's being considered properly. That -- the more general question -- ...

@euphoriaoverlord You are standing in a dark, musty room. The smell of old cardboard fills the air. In the corner there is a small wooden box. There is an entrance to the west. There is a trap door in the ceiling.
So I asked this question, as a generalized question
People are posting comments that are derailing the conversation towards another issue
Can I flag those comments?
@euphoriaoverlord Custom flag the post, request general comment cleanup; unless it is just a few comments, then flag comments nc.
Got it.
1:52 AM
@JasonC and/or too chatty
@euphoriaoverlord It's unfortunate that the topic of the original source of your quote opens the discussion to being sidetracked.
@JasonC Yeah, I intended it to use as a reference
that someone asked me to post a generalized question, so here I was
but people took it as a "well you posted about something else, yada yada yada"
If possible, you may want to see if you can rework your intro a bit to remove that quote, the link, and mentions of Puzzling. The question does stand alone without that info.
@JasonC Cool, got it, I'll get on it
So. uh.....
@JasonC Can I continue
@euphoriaoverlord sure but i'm tired right now so I can't promise much creativity.
1:56 AM
Never mind then
You may die quickly in all possible paths.
No no, go on.
"I open the box....then I die"
Actually I take that back
that's perfect for a Hollywood script
You can never take it back. Step forward, I dare you.
Actually, I'm going to go play Super Metroid. So yeah, the room fills with lava and you die.
1:59 AM
@euphoriaoverlord Hi, we don't even yet have a definition of quality or a clear scope of on-topicness over there. There have been many productive and hot discussions about what we are doing internally. On a personal note, you have participated in NONE of those productive discussions. Also, why is someone who has NO questions and NO answers on a site so concerned about its quality?! "I think all you can do is contribute to your fullest" is a polite way of way of asking "what are you doing?"... — d'alar'cop 3 hours ago
^ that reminds me of recent case...
(not intended to offense anyone specifically, of course)
2:19 AM
I notice google "street" view is processor intensive.
Even tho it looks awful and old.
new design!
@AndrewT. Just everybody a lot, equally?
Comment font is kind of small.
In other news, where is 3:00 UTC deletion script?
it's not yet 3:00 UTC?
2:25 AM
A: Feedback Requested: Stack Overflow design update

hichris123Can this please be a little more grayscale -- or at least a different color than Stack Overflow? Switching sites, each has a different design. Metas are usually grayscale. But when going from Stack Overflow to Meta Stack Overflow... there isn't too much of a difference, color scheme wise. It look...

I miss my grey. :(
@AndrewT. 35 min.
Was it 'Helvetica Neue' before? The font looks different now.
I dunno. But I do like that.
It was Arial. The main site still has Arial. Yes, I don't like Arial either.
Arial!? :O
It went live in 2008, you know.
2:30 AM
I do think the comment font is too small... no, I'm not getting eyeglasses/contacts, I'm not that old.
Yeah! Evil and horrible. Like meta. @bjb568 — Shog9 ♦ 24 secs ago
Meta is murder, y'know.
Versus the current Stack Overflow sprite. Different organization of icons.
The SO sprite still has the old Twitter logo in it.
@AndrewT. That's right, off-by-hour error.
2:50 AM
@Rafflesiaarnoldii so, there's actually a better reason to put Arial before Helv: some folks on Windows machines have really bad Helvetica fonts installed. Like, fonts so bad they make the whole page look bad. And throw IE into compatibility mode. Bad, bad stuff.
But, hopefully that too was a problem of the past.
@Shog9 If people use IE... isn't that their problem? ;)
IE is everyone's problem, @hichris123. Just like Apartheid and AIDS
Some supergroup needs to form & write a song about it. I.... ain't gonna use Internet Explorer doesn't really roll of the tongue, though.
3:07 AM
Trivia: what was the first SE site to use a serif font for posts?
... web apps?
No, they are Helvetica too.
It does have it as a fallback though:
font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
So, those are sans-serif fonts.
Oh you meant true serif.
3:10 AM
Well, I don't check every sites, so I dunno
Yes, it's a boring question. ELU is indeed one of serif sites. But the oldest of those is Mathematics.
Ha, I read some blog about Helvetica... and Jin's name comes up. hanselman.com/blog/…
The complete list of serif SE sites: ELU, RPG, Judaism, Christianity ... softer subjects for the most part, balanced by Math and EE.
3:42 AM
I couldn't find that online IDE I liked with green text - any idea?
@hichris123 Yay winterbash! Winterbash!!
Solution: Drop IE support.
Does DevDoodle support IE?
@Unihedron You have asked the same thing before, but I am not sure what is green in your color scheme. Your green might be my orange (in normal color scheme) :P
@InfiniteRecursion Yes, that's exactly why I couldn't google for reliable results... :D
Is there any visual element on any SE site that appears green to you? That will help me identify the color you are looking for.
3:49 AM
The right-top cube in the game development logo is green.
Apart from logos and user avatars, those are images. Look for sprites, badges, text, voting arrows, review options...etc...
Can't find green :(
Aha... Drupal spam is green.
@Unihedron screenshot?
You green is likely to be pink or magenta for us...
A: "Post as guest" is a bad user experience and encourages low quality contributions. Get rid of it

Shog9First off, I'm not wild about doing anything to the registration system right now. Not on any one site, and definitely not network-wide. We're working on a design for a complete revamp of the global login system (the one that in theory lets you log in on one site and be logged in automatically on...

3:55 AM
If you play the spoken-word version of that answer backwards, you hear a voice saying "Help me, Anna Lear, you're our only hope" over and over again.
> if one person refrains from asking, there are very likely others who will.
will refrain? (the sentence does not hold together, imo)
MSO looks weird, it will take some time to get used to it
4:08 AM
I would love that the CB looks the same in main and meta
btw, for some reason is wider...
The meta CB has a problem, will update my MSO answer again
4:16 AM
Any particular reason you are poking me?
clearly @Unihedron wants to be kicked
thinks Shog wants to kick people all the time
Q: What should our logo and site design look like?

Jason NicholsAgain, taken from the SO suggested list, but this does seem like a good question. Anyone have any ideas?

Oh no, not again. I thought the link on top of meta of private betas was supposed to point to the Real essential questions now? It's officially in FAQ on Meta.SE.
Another site in private beta!
4:31 AM
Whoa, a link posted after shift-enter linebreak does not render?
^ correct
**that has**
> linebreak
AKA "multiline message"
I have posted 5 suggestions for design changes on MSO in the past few minutes, Jin will think I hate his redesign :/
@Unihedron when all you have is a boot...
@Shog9 Use your eyes! See the truth, behind the lies!
4:36 AM
@InfiniteRecursion your hand-drawn circles are impressive, but I'm skeptical that's your real handwriting
@Shog9 The handwriting isn't mine, it's Gabriola font. I want the text to be legible :D
Since typography seems to be the topic du jour ... does kerning in this post look weird, or extremely weird?
> anti-Aging humor is that the one that holds up an honest place inside the market
@Rafflesiaarnoldii extremely weird
Well, then look at this !
4:41 AM
My eyes!!
mah, just delete this and post a new one, since Jin love all those ---pings--- messages in the inbox — Braiam 1 min ago
^should I post each request as a new answer? or collect all the problems and post them together?
^ I think the 7 is too big :/
That's because it's supposed to be a 9. Ya slackers.
5:00 AM
meta.SO what? this will take a while to get use to. deep breath steps forward into the abyss
@cVplZ At first glance, it looked OK. But after spending 15 minutes on MSO, I don't like it anymore :(
@InfiniteRecursion guess they tried the Shock and Awe approach
I answered it, so if anyone else asks anything, I will cv it as a dupe of this post.
Yes, but it didn't work. Every section which I navigate to ends up hurting my eyes. Go and take a look at your flag history on MSO.
@InfiniteRecursion Honestly, my first reaction and current reaction is BORING and BLAND
Howdy y'all
5:08 AM
which is a great design if they want to reduce all the questions they get there
Anyone mind helpin me out here.
Still not quite as boring / bland as beta site design. Something meant for 3 months but used for 3 years...
There's a bunch of comments that address a separate issue but don't provide much to conversation
especially since they're completely unrelated
Anyways, I flagged them as "too chatty" and custom "not constructive". Was I right in doing so?
Given that some betas have to compete for the audience with other, "real" sites on the topic, having a washed out design doesn't help.
That's 50+ sites that could be improved in appearance at once.
5:10 AM
This needs to be oneboxed for its uniqueness:
Q: Help, my first day to using this site

HyunJinParkMy friend recommend me come here for help my English. I see asking question but this not look like for learn English. Can you teach me?

No one wants to help ; _ ;
Is drupal the most international SE site? Quantcast says 22% people come from the U.S. Android has 28%
It's not just a factor of India. Android has higher % of visitors from India than Drupal, but Drupal gets more from other countries.
5:21 AM
@Rafflesiaarnoldii I think SO is SE's most international site, it's just a calculated guess.
No, it gets 28.6% of visitors from the States. Apart from Drupal, the lowest I found so far is AU with 25%.
It has a lot of members from India too, assuming that the location they mention is their profiles are true.
@InfiniteRecursion in most of Android, iPhone chat rooms on SO, you'll find majority to be Indians :)
[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 87.9097: The body that you want and their health on meta.stackexchange.com
@hichris123 true
5:23 AM
@hichris123 true
Smokey missed that, hismokey123 caught it
It seems that the strain of spam that goes to Meta is better detected by bots (at least one of them) than what goes to Drupal.
Drupal spam has significantly reduced in volume in the past couple of days
There has been around 50% reduction in the volume of spam posts
is it only me, or the text style/size of posts on SO is really changed?
@DroidDev I think it changed. Actually I just logged into chat now to ask when they changed the meta SO theme (unless I'm crazy). Funny I saw your message.
5:29 AM
Q: Feedback Requested: Stack Overflow design update

JinAs you can see, Meta.SO looks a bit different today. Over the years I've gotten a lot of requests to "redesign" Stack Overflow. I've always felt SO's site design had good usability and was very functional. However, I did and do agree, aesthetically, it could use some polish. Today's new Meta the...

@InfiniteRecursion Oh thanks.
I actually kinda like it, even though I miss the old meta a little.
Marking the first SO design change I actually like.
@JasonC I don't like it, it's borked
the text size on SO is reduced now, I think I'll zoom the page size in my browser to compensate
^sample. I have been updating my answer on that post with all my observations
3 hours ago, by Rafflesia arnoldii
I do think the comment font is too small... no, I'm not getting eyeglasses/contacts, I'm not that old.
5:32 AM
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[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 50.5646: What is people's review for skin care products? on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@InfiniteRecursion Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
@hichris123 true
@hichris123 true
5:33 AM
@InfiniteRecursion Well I mean once the kinks are worked out. My only complaint is there seems like there is way too much whitespace between comments.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii exactly, it is definitely going to put pressure on eyes. I don't want to have eye glasses after just 3-4 years into programming. Page zooming procedures, Initiated
Be prepared to discover how vertical alignment breaks at 110% zoom...
I had to grab a measuring tool and compare the fonts; the new one is only slightly smaller but it feels tiny. — Shog9 ♦ 48 mins ago
@JasonC and everything else, like, the voting arrows and post, Image and text in post and every other single thing. I think they just reduced the font size and everything else was left as it was before
5:36 AM
^ the price to pay for 110% zoom in Chrome.
Ok, I have fully adjusted to the new meta.SO
@Rafflesiaarnoldii we can live with that :P
@DroidDev They also changed the default font from Arial to Helvetica Neue, a pretty substantial change.
@cVplZ Have you?
Resistance is futile, anyway.
5:38 AM
I took a break for now, it's too white
@Rafflesiaarnoldii I am only concerned about the size, nothing else matters much to me. I usually ignore every bug I find on site, because this knowledge base is not designed for user experience. It is for knowledge. But, text....I can't ignore that.....
I feel the response was similar to MSE new design when MSE/MSO splitting
And they like whitespaces very much :O
before rep-whores rush to site stackoverflow.com/q/27009768/2389078
MSE/MSO split was more about content and participation, this is more focused on UX. Yes, too much white.
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5:43 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 79.9635: Muscle Building Tags on meta.stackexchange.com
@hichris123 true
@SmokeDetector tpu
@cVplZ Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
@DroidDev @hichris123 is not a socializing bot
@AndrewT. but....font size....
5:44 AM
Yes, there are some of those. Retagging hundreds of questions on Math built up some index finger muscles.
@cVplZ I think @Inf yesterday said, that @hichris123 told people here to send it boolean pings, kind of thing. That's why I was doing it. Can you please confirm @InfiniteRecursion ?
@InfiniteRecursion pretty much, would like to see this changed meta.stackoverflow.com/a/277227/3041194
Oct 25 at 14:38, by Infinite Recursion
So would you like us to send you boolean pings @hichris123 ?
3 mins ago, by cVplZ
@DroidDev @hichris123 is not a socializing bot
@DroidDev I took permission from him, so I ping him. Not sure if he likes getting pings from you :P
@InfiniteRecursion ok, I'd stop doing it now. Thanks
@InfiniteRecursion You asked "would you like us to send you boolean pings", to which hichris answered "sure". Unless it was a royal "we"...
(of course, it's also possible that hichris could reconsider the desirability of any pings by now.)
@Rafflesiaarnoldii It wasn't royal, but we need to be considerate about how many pings we send per hour. That's a matter of personal judgement. This hour, we have pinged him a lot, which needs to stop for the time being.
5:55 AM
We support the royal we and have decided to start using it more often.
@InfiniteRecursion We appreciate your kind words.
@DroidDev do whata youa wanta
Nov 11 at 14:06, by cVplZ
please leave more room between the users, they too close to me
We have read the star wall and found it most... unsatisfying.
@cVplZ you feel suffocated...? :P
@hichris123 bot is down, the bot is down!?!
1 hour ago, by Shog9
@Unihedron when all you have is a boot...
^beware of Shog's boot
6:00 AM
Finally got to grading the homework... it looks perfect! It's as if I'm grading the solution manual! Oh wait.
Yeah, one boot is all he has. Don't take it from him.
A rare sighting of Shog's boot
@Rafflesiaarnoldii WTF IS A HAIRBOAT
Hm, oneboxing failed.
6:12 AM
btw, I have a small pet-peeve with the color of visited user's link on MSO (turn to grey... deleted user?), is it already addressed?
@cVplZ I think maybe yes, 17 minutes old account, answering on 4 years old question.
but, I am not sure
@cVplZ yes
I explained why the hover effect doesn't work on visited links in my answer. It's only broken for some links though. — animuson ♦ 35 mins ago
6:20 AM
I think the buttons are too rectangular. SO needs more colorful circles at fixed positions on the page.
Yes, now the site is full of of rectangles and triangles :(
And ducks. Fill those wide margins with ducks.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii Well you could always cornify it.
Hey you should make a duckify bookmarklet.
Bookmarklets affect only the current page, with any effect lost when navigating to another page. Would need to be a userscript / extension.
@InfiniteRecursion not sure it's the same issue.. well, actually mine's a minor cosmetic issue.. I just realized all visited links turn to grey, so, mine is a duplicate of Qix's feedback
6:26 AM
@Rafflesiaarnoldii I would happily add ducks as needed on every page.
@JasonC they seem more like rabbits and mice, instead of ducks or maybe its just the meta-effect :P
Rabbits and mice. How dare you.
ducks from @Jas
15 hours ago, by bluefeet
why are my ears burning????
hat on fire?
I've never seen a non-self-cleaning oven manual that says to not use cleaning products. That would be, like, a disposable oven. — Jolenealaska 3 hours ago
@chmod711telkitty I don't wear hats, @Jan does :)
We hope his ears never catch fire
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7:05 AM
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Q: Are there neutrinos produced during the triple alpha process?

CJJJust as the title said. I googled but can't find. But just curious why are neutrinos involved in hydrogen fusion but (maybe) not some other fusions.

> You mean scientist don't know the answer right?
Did OP think that people on SO are scientists :O
7:27 AM
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7:42 AM
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