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cVplZ

9:17 AM

Sep 28 at 13:09, by Infinite Recursion

The tavern is Bart-less today :)

Infinite Recursion

Soon, it will be duck less too :)

Unihedron

One day it will be empty.

Andrew T.

He has gone to FB probably

2

16 hours ago, by Infinite Recursion

Go to facebook @Bart, like is banned in chat

cVplZ

@AndrewT. if only there was a way to be two places on the internet at the same time, nah, that will never happen

ProgramFOX

40 secs ago, by Infinite Recursion

STOP ONEBOXING MY WORDS!

:P

Infinite Recursion

9:25 AM

Aug 31 at 11:41, by Bart

Users come and go @InfiniteRecursion. Some leave for a while. Some never come back. There is nothing to disturb here and no need to apologize.

cVplZ

Sep 29 at 15:47, by Infinite Recursion

I would enjoy downvotes too...new experience outside SO

Infinite Recursion

4 mins ago, by ProgramFOX

40 secs ago, by Infinite Recursion

STOP ONEBOXING MY WORDS!

Unihedron

4 mins ago, by ProgramFOX

40 secs ago, by Infinite Recursion

STOP ONEBOXING MY WORDS!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MATLAB_MIRTOOLBOX_MIRTEMPO by user3819246 on dsp.stackexchange.com

cVplZ

Sep 5 at 17:31, by Infinite Recursion

Hmm, okay. If you say so.

Infinite Recursion

9:30 AM

yesterday, by Infinite Recursion

you are annoying

vba4all

please, help me understand mr. Ahmed here

-2

A: Voting the question vs. Voting the answer

++ for BradleyDotNET's answer, he's got very valid points but also I'd like to add one more reason votes on questions help me: I am quite active in Excel/VBA tags and believe me 95% of the questions posted are crap... Sometimes it takes a true while to find a good/interesting (answerable) and no...

Unihedron

Aug 24 at 13:31, by Infinite Recursion

Nope

cVplZ

@vba4all I downvoted your meta question. Please leave a comment now with the @downvoter

Infinite Recursion

4 hours ago, by cVplZ

anyone going trick or treating tonight?

vba4all

@cVplZ did i reach ya

cVplZ

9:32 AM

@InfiniteRecursion I only said that, so I could report those who said yes for being under 13 and on the site... (report with the new report this user feature!!!! :))

@vba4all nope

Infinite Recursion

Aug 26 at 2:11, by iStimple

lol

vba4all

@cVplZ ok i see, it doesn't work so someone got quite lucky

cool thanks for testing

now i am wondering how did someone know...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care Think by johnsean60400 on drupal.stackexchange.com

vba4all

theoretically you could write a script that posts a new comment mentioning every single name on the SO page with @ and then deleting the comment - finally you would reach the downvoter haha

Infinite Recursion

@SmokeDetector true

SmokeDetector

9:39 AM

@InfiniteRecursion Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

vba4all

WTF? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/275734/…

so annoying I don't understand what he's trying say nor google translator does

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad Join us in the Tavern chatroom — Infinite Recursion 1 min ago

vba4all

are you sure about that...

Jan Dvorak

@vba4all He doesn't know how to chat

ProgramFOX

@JanDvorak He does. He just joined the SO Tavern.

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, 33 secs ago, by Ahmad

We had a debate with vba4all is he here?

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, 30 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

@Ahmad No, he is in the Meta chatroom.

Infinite Recursion

9:43 AM

everybody is welcome to the Tavern @vba4all

Unihedron

@vba4all Better than leaving the discussion in the comment thread.

Frank

Morning!

ProgramFOX

Morning!

vba4all

from a meta answer comments section to a SO chat arena hehe

Infinite Recursion

Morning!

Ahmad

9:45 AM

Hi

Infinite Recursion

Hi @Ahmad :)

ProgramFOX

Hi

Frank

Hi @Ahmad :)

cVplZ

Hi @Ahmad We've been waiting for you!

Unihedron

Hi!

Ahmad

9:45 AM

Thank you :)

vba4all

what is it that we're about to discuss @Ahmad

can you please clarify your comment?

Ahmad

@cVplZ really? why?

@vba4all about our discussion on the qustion

Unihedron

@Ahmad You're the chosen one

Ahmad

lol

Infinite Recursion

don't scare him guys, he is new to chat

Frank

9:48 AM

scares Ahmed

Ahmad

just my concern now is my wife

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion Gender neutrality meter: 200%

Ahmad

she the one scares me now, by calling me to the launch

and why I am behind the computer much time

the problem of developers

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron has a wife, so there is little doubt about user's gender

Unihedron

Oh :(

stopped stalking people quite a while ago

Ahmad

9:50 AM

@vba4all I am new to the website, I just wonder how or why people should use SO for research purpose

its not the purpose of the site itself

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad In your opinion, what is the purpose of the site?

Ahmad

to find an answer for a problem. you are developing, you encounter a problem, you google it, you find the answer or ask the question in the site, its all around your questions and problems

Infinite Recursion

yes, true

Ahmad

I will back soon, she is calling, sorry

Unihedron

Actually, it says "Get answers to practical, detailed questions" in the tour page.

Infinite Recursion

9:53 AM

cya

Unihedron

cya

ProgramFOX

cya

Sam

cya

Frank

cya

Stijn

choo choo

cVplZ

9:56 AM

@InfiniteRecursion but it's Halloween ~~<8^8>~~

2

Unihedron

chain crashes

Infinite Recursion

@cVplZ look around, there are other users too...onebox them...give them hats...ignoreMePlz

cVplZ

I don't ignore anyone. You are free to ignore me @inf

Infinite Recursion

hat for @Stijn ~~<8^8>~~

Stijn

yay!

Infinite Recursion

9:59 AM

@cVplZ Sorry, I was rude there, I have no intention to ignore you, I will just sit quietly for some time and enjoy watching all of you chat

Unihedron

Hats!

Sam

Brown!

cVplZ

BEARS!

Stijn

Frank

creepy^

Stijn

10:03 AM

@Frank I liked the green tree better :(

Frank

@Stijn I don't like your face no matter how it looks.

3

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MATLAB_MIRTOOLBOX_MIRTEMPO by user3819246 on dsp.stackexchange.com

cVplZ

stacksoverflow ^

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, URL in title: Packers and Movers Chennai @ top3rd.in/packers-and-movers-chennai by sinhamaya on drupal.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

@SmokeDetector true

SmokeDetector

10:06 AM

@JanDvorak Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Jan Dvorak

@SmokeDetector true

SmokeDetector

@JanDvorak Something went wrong when registering title as true positive.

Frank

Gardening & Landscaping^

Unihedron

Lol ^

Infinite Recursion

@Frank Someone replied to your weekly challenge post, you should be happy now :P

Jan Dvorak

10:09 AM

SPAM mathoverflow.net/questions/185849/…

cVplZ

any thoughts on this?

Unihedron

@JanDvorak soft-question... ha... when you see it

Jan Dvorak

@cVplZ why not?

Frank

@InfiniteRecursion Yup, and I +1nd it... so it has a score of 1.

Stijn

@cVplZ hmm, interesting. It gives some information (you can look up what an error name means) but the most interesting information is not in the post.

cVplZ

10:11 AM

@JanDvorak just wondering if any thoughts on it, about the 40 links to his blog

Stijn

Can't flag it as NAA.

Ahmad

I am back, sorry

Stijn

The only thing you can do is downvote and comment, ask if OP can include the detailed information in the answer.

ProgramFOX

@Ahmad Welcome back!

Frank

@Ahmad ohai!

Jan Dvorak

10:12 AM

POB askubuntu.com/questions/543964/…

@cVplZ it looks like an answer to me. You could nag him to disclose any affiliation, though

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Are there any high energy density (i.e. zinc-air or lithium-manganese dioxide) batteries without crap internal resistance? by Yale Zhang on electronics.stackexchange.com

Ahmad

@vba4all did you get what I mean?

according to my definition of the purpose of the site, one questions remains, who are those generous people who answers qustions and why they do that

Patrick Hofman

Bad Tag Used: [api] | Build fast webservice response, by bhavesh, on stackoverflow.com.

cVplZ

@SmokeDetector false

SmokeDetector

@cVplZ Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Ahmad

10:16 AM

by the way, I drew a proposal for voting system, you may like to check meta.stackexchange.com/questions/242852/…

cVplZ

@Ahmad here's a post on that

Frank

@Ahmad Ooh, I wonder how that's better.

cVplZ

@Ahmad and another one

Andrew T.

@Ahmad the feature request to add additional info when down voting has been discussed before.

Ahmad

@cVplZ lol, thank you, I expected a more serious reson

Andrew T.

10:20 AM

(Sorry, couldn't find the dupe easily since I'm on mobile now)

Ahmad

@Ahmad is downvoting mechanism is the same for answers and questions? if yes, i suggested it shouldn't

sorry I used @ for myself, lol I meant @AndrewT.

Andrew T.

Currently? Yes.

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/26672170/2982225

Frank

@Ahmad I do use different personal guidelines when voting on questions and answers.

Andrew T.

There's a tooltip when you hover the vote arrows

Infinite Recursion

10:22 AM

@AndrewT. Did you see the new name pop-ups in mobile chat? I liked it

Patrick Hofman

Low Quality Q (46.6%): aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, by mitanshu gupta, on stackoverflow.com.

Andrew T.

@InfiniteRecursion yep, it's very handy :D

Ahmad

that tooltip doesn't say the intention of the down voter to the OP, does it?

Unihedron

^ Phams' post flag as offensive

Frank

@Ahmad You are not required to.

Andrew T.

10:24 AM

@PatrickHofman Check the revision first

Ahmad

are you opposed with my proposal? totally voting on questions is different with voting on answer and has less meaning, specially downvotes exept they request a modification

Frank

@Ahmad When requesting modification, I generally use a comment rather than votes, I get the point across better.

Andrew T.

If voting on question has less meaning, then why bother?

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad how many questions do you think we get per day on SO?

Andrew T.

(Not to be rude)

Jan Dvorak

10:27 AM

also, cv-pls that aaa thing

Ahmad

Ponits bother people, its the psychological context behind the site, then they should take more seriously

Jan Dvorak

What's a ponit?

2

Ahmad

reputations points

Jan Dvorak

oh, *points

Ahmad

leting anyone downvote any quesion is meaningless

Frank

10:29 AM

@Ahmad I guess then I don't qualify as 'people' then. Points don't bother me.

Andrew T.

Well, then it's getting more complex if you relate to reputation and psychological

Infinite Recursion

7 mins ago, by Infinite Recursion

cv-pls http://stackoverflow.com/q/26672170/2982225

Ahmad

question is if it is a well formatted is a question, we dont have bad questions

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad sure we do

Ahmad

we have bad answers but not bad questions

Jan Dvorak

10:30 AM

both closing and downvoting help get rid of bad questions

Ahmad

some of my questions or questions you address have -XXX downvotes, what does that mean

why get rid?

Unihedron

@Ahmad Why not?

Ahmad

they are saved in the server and if they are really bad no one find them

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad ex.: Plz write a regex to match a string if it's a digit, then X, then four digits

Andrew T.

@Ahmad unfortunately, we have too many bad questions

Infinite Recursion

10:31 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is closed

bluefeet

@InfiniteRecursion no need to lock that

Jan Dvorak

not too broad, not unclear, still crap

Infinite Recursion

@bluefeet ok

Ahmad

so don't care them, you shouldn't answer them, or you may asks a modification

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad that's how Yahoo Answers "works"

Unihedron

10:32 AM

^

Ahmad

the difference is that you have UP votes

I am not opposed with up votes

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad that's how wikipedia works

Sam

Who would be? ;)

Unihedron

@Ahmad... Take a tour

stackoverflow.com/tour

Ahmad

they also have some merits

Unihedron

10:34 AM

Yes, and all the badges are encouraging keeping the place clean

Andrew T.

Useful to people doesn't mean useful to the site

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad Every single feature that you see exists for a reason, and has been put in place by people who have experience and understanding of online communities

Ahmad

You all evading to answer the main question, I agree with up votes, badges, up and down votes with answers, but down vote to the questions by anyone

Unihedron

Point being?

Eh, I disagree with your premise, but that's just me.

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad how would you treat "gimme teh regex" questions?

Infinite Recursion

10:36 AM

Please hang around for some time and study the system, I feel you will also understand how voting works and what is's benefits are

cVplZ

@Ahmad the more bad questions there are, the harder it is to help the people who have good questions, since it's harder to find the good questions if all you see is people asking bad questions and not being downvoted for it

Unihedron

s/is's/it's/

Andrew T.

Please restate the main question? I think the topic drifted away due to your following argument

Infinite Recursion

one last cv-pls on this one - stackoverflow.com/questions/26672170/…

Jan Dvorak

wait, there was a main question?

2

Infinite Recursion

10:39 AM

3 mins ago, by Ahmad

You all evading to answer the main question, I agree with up votes, badges, up and down votes with answers, but down vote to the questions by anyone

Andrew T.

Oh, down vote on question?

Sam

^ that's a statement, not a question

Ahmad

how many reputation is needed to down vote a question?

Frank

@Ahmad 125

Andrew T.

125 to down vote both Q & A

Ahmad

10:40 AM

then thats according to my proposal

Frank

I don't have that privilege on SO yet...

Ahmad

I think 15 is for up votes?

Frank

@Ahmad Yes.

Infinite Recursion

@hichris123 go close stackoverflow.com/q/26672170/2982225

Ahmad

but 125 is still low, it should be 1000 for the questions and 125 for downvotes for answers

Jan Dvorak

10:42 AM

@Ahmad no

Frank

@Ahmad y?

Infinite Recursion

Thanks :)

Jan Dvorak

it should be lower, not higher

Unihedron

@Ahmad No, it should be 60. 125 is too high.

Andrew T.

@Ahmad Give at least one reason why it must be higher

Ahmad

10:42 AM

@InfiniteRecursion Oh are you those who close questions?

3

Jan Dvorak

It should be 15. At least for questions.

@Ahmad abso-*******-lutely

Frank

@Ahmad Yes!

Ahmad

for up votes it could be 15

Unihedron

@Ahmad I am as well, I am also those who hate people who answers garbage

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 77.3557: I was crazy they’re like you have Skin care on drupal.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

10:43 AM

@SmokeDetector true

SmokeDetector

@JanDvorak Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Infinite Recursion

^

Frank

@Ahmad I don't think changing it will be really constructive.

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad we also flag spam, if you don't mind

3

Unihedron

(gone)

hichris123

10:44 AM

49 seconds. Not bad.

Unihedron

Great job everyone!

Ahmad

lol, now I found people behind stories I am kidding

Unihedron

Low Quality Posts HQ

Home of bots for catching low quality posts (and sometimes spa...

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad Was that a real question?

Ahmad

which?

Unihedron

10:45 AM

@InfiniteRecursion message closed as Not A Real Question

Andrew T.

I guess we're already quite (in)famous people on Meta

Infinite Recursion

2 mins ago, by Ahmad

@InfiniteRecursion Oh are you those who close questions?

Patrick Hofman

Bad Tag Used: [width] | WebView OF A PICTURE, by avilalta92, on stackoverflow.com.

Unihedron

@AndrewT. They'll thank us later.

Sam

^ cv-plz

Ahmad

10:46 AM

more a kidding I hate them ;)

cVplZ

Just because you received one incorrect/bad audit doesn't mean the whole queue is broken. I've reviewed it many weeks with no issues. — cVplZ 45 secs ago

Jan Dvorak

^ code-needed, not too broad

Unihedron

@cVplZ Link them to my meta post :D

Ahmad

It seems I have been caught by polices

2

Andrew T.

AGF... AGF... (assume good faith)

Infinite Recursion

10:47 AM

@Ahmad In that case, you can hate me, because I am indeed one of those that closes bad questions when she sees one

Ahmad

but I am serious about the proposal

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad but we are serious about it being a bad idea

Andrew T.

@Ahmad relax, we're not bad people

Ahmad

who care the up and downvotes of the questions, (not answers)

hichris123

@cVplZ More like you got lucky/guessed what the system wanted.

Unihedron

10:47 AM

@Ahmad Thanks for the concerns.

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad askers care about their question score

Frank

@Ahmad 'I have a warrant for your arrest! Please step down, and place your hands over your head!'

Unihedron

But no, the disadvantages of doing so outweighs the advantages.

Frank

@Ahmad Me, for one.

Infinite Recursion

@hichris123 go close stackoverflow.com/questions/26672785/webview-of-a-picture

Ahmad

10:49 AM

I feel you moderators are behind eachother, look the up votes you give to eachother and the down votes give to me ( a moderator bias)

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26672319/…

Unihedron

Aug 29 at 12:56, by Andy

@Unihedron Congratulations on the promotion to Cyber Policeman. Cookies are in the conference room. New guy has to buy lunch for everyone.

Andrew T.

Answerers also care about question's score before they open it

Unihedron

@Ahmad We don't ******* give upvotes to each other.

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad no

Unihedron

10:49 AM

That's voting fraud. The system will fetch it.

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad We are not moderators, we are common users

Frank

@Ahmad We are not mods, just regular users

cVplZ

Unihedron

@hichris123 closed

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak Stop trolling

Ahmad

10:50 AM

brb, baby crying

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion have I ever?

cVplZ

^ now look at what you gone done @Jan

Jan Dvorak

I didn't think @Ahmad would become a crying baby :-/

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak Haven't you?

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion When did I?

Infinite Recursion

10:52 AM

see, even TellyKitty left

2

Unihedron

noo telly

cVplZ

@InfiniteRecursion did you want me to stop starring you to? b.c i'll remove if so

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak click that little arrow near my message which says "Stop trolling"

@cVplZ no, it's fine :)

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion I have. Why do you consider it trolling?

Patrick Hofman

Low Quality Q (100%): Password requests every time I do anything, by AMS, on apple.stackexchange.com.

Sam

10:54 AM

^ too broad?

Jan Dvorak

(you're encouraging my self-evaluation, BTW)

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak Why do you ask me so many questions?

Unihedron

-------->

Infinite Recursion

Hiya @babaji

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion do I?

Unihedron

10:55 AM

Nooo not the one who should not be named!

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron it's carebear aka weapon of choice

Unihedron

:P

Andrew T.

request to ban babaji

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron Lord V0ld3m0rt?

cVplZ

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/24430094/…

Unihedron

10:56 AM

o_o

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak you asked me all our self-evaluations questions, in case you didn't notice

Andrew T.

So many links!

Ahmad

you say downvotes are to see crap questions less, but it doesn't work when you just down vote and not saying the asker what you mean, but if you say him he learns

Unihedron

@Ahmad I think you just haven't been around enough to understand why the community closing and deletion system were in place. When you visit enough questions on the site, you'll thank it being there, and immersely participate.

Jan Dvorak

@Ahmad most askers know

they just think they can get away with it

Unihedron

10:57 AM

@Ahmad I always comment, only three out of twenty five times the OP cares; they just want an answer, not to learn.

Sam

^

Andrew T.

1-rep asker probably don't know though

Jan Dvorak

nice 404 btw

Infinite Recursion

@Ahmad I have never asked a question, I only answer, same for all the other users you see in this room, all of us mostly answer and rarely ask questions

Ahmad

you didn't answer me, who cares the down votes of a question?

Thats my point

Unihedron

10:58 AM

@Ahmad The asker, and the community who uses it to determine the usefulness

Ahmad

these system is for you answerers

Unihedron

systems* are*

Ahmad

I mean this mechanism, down voteing

Jan Dvorak

when someone includes "0 down vote favorite" in their question, I downvote without reading. Also, programming questions are off-topic here. — Jan Dvorak 18 secs ago

Unihedron

@Ahmad I disagree with your premise.

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