XMPP

but I'm now thinking maybe the bridge itself should have a single SOChatFeed, which polls and sends all messages to everyone in all rooms, which was how I originally had it coded

I just need to figure out if, once I have authentication working, if there will be information in the JSON feed specific to each user... like, if somone @rchern s you, does your JSON feed show something that an unauthenticated user's JSON feed doesn't?

rchern

4:31 PM

yeah, if you're doing authentication stuff you'd need it

but also what if broadcasting/delivering a message to one person fails?

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If so, your SOXMPP_LoggedInUser will continue to need its own feed

@rchern sending a message from XMPP to SO Chat? Or vise-versa?

maybe each room should have a feed, from which it extracts only messages, edits, joins/leaves, etc, and each user should have their own feed, from which is extracts only authentication events

idk, need to investigate more :-)

radp

5:41 PM

@The Beam me up, Scotty.

Do I need to create an account with your server?

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Consider yourself beamed

@radp Nope. You joined the_tavern

this room is xmpp@msochat.smart-safe-secure.com

radp

I guess that goes under "Resource"

Do I need to put login details at all?

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@radp "Resource" is where you're connecting from, so users can tell if you're on your laptop, or desktop, etc

radp

mkay, but I guess that doesn't go in the server entry.

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@radp do you have an existing jabber account? If not, then you'll need to register an account, smart-safe-secure.com has open registration

radp

5:44 PM

oh, okay, I do need to create an account. ;)

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ah, ok :-)

radp

Attempt 1, network error.

Port 5222? SSL?

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I thought you were mediumdeviation but that's @Yi

@radp Port 5222, TLS

server: jabber.smart-safe-secure.com

radp

Still network error.

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connect to server jabber.smart-safe-secure.com. When you're connected, join the room "the_tavern" or "xmpp" on server: msochat.smart-safe-secure.com

@radp Hmmm. Using which client?

radp

5:47 PM

I'll start over.

I'm using Telepathy/Empathy.

Okay. So:

Create a new account on the server. Login ID. Password. Encryption required (TLS/SSL): Yes. Ignore SSL certificate errors: Yes. Server: jabber.smart-safe-secure.com. Port 5222. Use old SSL: No.

RIght?

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@radp Should be, right, yes

radp

@TheUnhandledException password overflow :P

and network error.

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@radp Hm. :-/

radp

weird, the port is open.

$ nmap jabber.smart-safe-secure.com -p 5222 #snipped
PORT STATE SERVICE
5222/tcp open unknown

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try just connect server: smart-safe-secure.com

if that still fails, I will create the account for you

radp

5:55 PM

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@radp That should work... if not, try server: smart-safe-secure.com

radp

neither brings me joy

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try username: badp password: sochatRocks

radp

Still no joy.

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how odd...

try disabling SSL/TSL...

radp

6:02 PM

Nope.

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I have no idea what's wrong :-(

radp

It's probably a silly error that Empathy, for lack of anything better to say, defaults to "Network Error"

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@radp Agreed. I'm going to make some lunch, I'll do some tests when I get back. Have some bugs with the script to fix anyway :-)

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7:45 PM

...testing...

Damn, I broke it :-(

...testing again...

Damn

What did I do? :-p

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8:34 PM

...test?

...test....

cry

radp

there there

you're still with us

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8:53 PM

@radp LOL. Thanks :-)

I just wish I knew Ruby better, LOL

this is a great way to learn though

radp

@TheUnhandledException { |no| You don't} :P

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@radp you're in Italy at a University, right?

radp

yes.

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I have a friend in a Washington State university who can never connect to my Jabber server, never could determine why

radp

um, I'm at home right now.

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8:54 PM

In the end I decided his campus network must be blocking me somehow

radp

I thought you were talking more generally.

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Ok. Scratch that theory :-)

radp

It's 2254 :)

if I was in university at this time that'd mean I'd be at college and then definitely not at my desk.

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I wasn't sure if you stayed on campus :-)

radp

Campus? E_NOENT

What's this "campus" thing you're talking about?

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8:56 PM

Like, in a dorm building at the school

radp

wat

you mean people sleep by their schools?

that's crazy talk man.

people obviously either rent a house nearby or commute to university.

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hahaha

radp

I'm only half joking there btw

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yeah when I went to college, I lived on campus in a dorm. Furniture, net access, food all provided by the school

@radp I figured :-)

radp

Our uni offers like a couple hundred beds.

out of 10k attendants

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8:58 PM

wow, yeah, different from mine

I don't know the numbers but probably 65%-75% lived on campus

...testing again...

radp

@TheUnhandledException my uni, let me show you it

(no I don't expect you to come back to me with a similar chart)

(let it be known however that the highlighting is free handed.)

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9:37 PM

Sorry stepped AFK @radp

@radp Nice freehanded highlights

rchern

hehehe

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No freehand highlights but here is a map of the university I attended in 2000

rchern

no freehand circles even?

-1.

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Nope, not a one

I accept the -1 @rchern :-)

It does, however, have interactive highlighing

But, I didn't do that :-)

rchern

hehehe

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9:43 PM

(testing)

Ah ha, found the problem

I knew it was odd that I suddenly needed an extra for-each looping construct, lol

...test...

nice

bridge works again

Hopefully I fixed the double-message bug

and maybe you can see messages in the_tavern@msochat.smart-safe-secure.com now @rchern

@rchern do you see any messages via XMPP?

rchern

aye, both rooms

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awesome

I'm polling only once per bridge now, not once per user

Now to fix #12: Decode HTML Entities

rchern

9:59 PM

opens repository and wonders what Ruby looks like

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It's a fun language :-)

rchern

looks ugh (;

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LOL

It's very different from what I'm used to

Ah ha, again SO to the rescue:

4

Q: How to encode/decode html entities in ruby

I am trying to decode some HTML entities ('<' => '<'). I have found an old gem (http://github.com/tma/html_helpers/) but it seems to have been abandoned twice. Any recommendations? (will need to use it in a model)

@rchern I'm restarting the script, be prepared to be kicked off :-)

ok...

I'm testing this "html entity decode" stuff :-)

oh yeah

that's the stuff

now let's see what happens when I onebox!

rchern

o: it gave me no indication when i got kicked off

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4

Q: How to encode/decode html entities in ruby

I am trying to decode some HTML entities ('<' => '<'). I have found an old gem (http://github.com/tma/html_helpers/) but it seems to have been abandoned twice. Any recommendations? (will need to use it in a model)

html ruby rubygems

@rchern me neither. You need to leave and rejoin room

ok, well onebox still looks like poop

but, that can be a new Trac ticket, I consider #12 closed

Next I'm going to try to make the room's user list show the users who are in the SO chat room

rchern

10:12 PM

it doesn't seem like trillian can save conference rooms so that i don't have to enter in the info each time

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that's easier said than done...

@rchern Hmmm... I don't know trillian very well. I use Pidgin

rchern

yeah i've used that before

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( testing )

hm, that doesn't look italic over XMPP either. But I'm not sending it HTMl encoded.. A new bug :-)

Actually this is still the same bug. I'll bet that the text I send to the xmpp4r library gets HTML encoded... so I need to find a way to send raw XML to the XMPP client, then I can remove the HTML entities decoder I just added.

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