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Shadow Wizard

12:00 AM

@Frank your efforts were not in vain, you're now the first in PPD stats. :-)

Frank

@ShadowWizard Oh, cool.

:O

hichris123

@SmokeDetector false

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Frank

I didn't get any rep on GL on sept 14. That's the last time.

Before that, jul 20.

cVplZ

12:36 AM

this guy doesn't seem to know what spam is. Must own stock in GOOG or somethin.

Frank

@cVplZ I saw that. Somewhat odd.

cVplZ

my absolute favorite youtube feature is how if you click to watch a video under their videos tab in the youtubers account, it auto-playists every single one of their videos. Yea, thanks for auto-playlisting 354 videos for me to watch. Total nonsense.

Frank

@cVplZ I know! Go rant. On pastebin or something.

cVplZ

lol, who voted to close as not constructive? Obviously I can back up every single bad feature they changed to with facts.. not opinions

Frank

@cVplZ Not me.

cVplZ

1:00 AM

48 mins ago, by Frank

I didn't get any rep on GL on sept 14. That's the last time.

Frank

@cVplZ rant rant

Haha I'm on the first page.

cVplZ

@AnnaLear So I used the new deletion system to delete some accounts I wasn't active on anymore. The new system is very cool! Very user friendly!

Frank

Anna Lear

@cVplZ Great to hear that. I wasn't the one working on it, so all credit goes to Ana and Marc. :)

Doorknob

Heh, Stock Exchange Stack Exchange would be quite an... interesting name

Frank

1:08 AM

@Doorknob I saw that one. Looks viable, actually.

hichris123

@cVplZ ... new deletion system?

Frank

@cVplZ Whoa, only 6 accounts!

cVplZ

@hichris123 yea, just go to contact->i need to delete my account , it magically appends your email/account url, etc in the form. Click submit. And then like the next day or so you get a notification. Click on it, and says "Do you really want to delete your account" Click OK and it auto-deletes in 24 hours. Then there's a button you can click to cancel it.

hichris123

cool

cVplZ

So I don't think you even need to do the "please delete me" in the about me anymore, but I did it just in case. New system could help retain users who rage quit but change their mind the next day or two.

Frank

1:22 AM

What I don't like to see on my chat tabs: (*)

cVplZ

lol

Frank

@cVplZ Haha

user259867

If it visibly captures your account info, great. One thing I dislike about SE contact form is that it sends along user's identity from the cookie without giving any clue that this is what's happening.

Shog9

@WeaponofChoice that ain't all it sends

user259867

Ah yes, my Paypal password and so on...

Shog9

1:30 AM

It's a support system - it sends as much info as possible. Otherwise, we have to trust you to provide it. If you've ever worked support, you know that's about as useful as just throwing darts at past tickets and copying whatever response is hit.

Good grief, if I could have back the time wasted explaining to folks how to get their external IP address...

"No sir, we are definitely not blocking 192.168.0.31"

hichris123

@Shog9 Just tell them to type into google "what's my ip"

Shog9

I have a canned response for that

with a link to whatismyipaddress.com

hichris123

... or that.

user259867

I've no problem with it sending lots of info to the team. As long as I know this is happening. Otherwise it looks like you are sneaking up on me.

hichris123

@WeaponofChoice Well, I mean they already have all of this information...

Shog9

1:33 AM

Sounds like a [feature-request] to me

@hichris123 oh yeah, that was the other fun bit - get an email from someone complaining about a problem with their account. No account link. Or name. Or description of the problem. Look them up by email address. Find their IP address. Scrape the logs looking for the scenario where things went south, which browser they were using, etc. Come up with a plausible problem description. Write up a solution. Send it.

...find out they were using a different account associated with a completely different email address.

And really just wanted to request deletion.

hichris123

ahaha.

Solution: nuke all accounts that ask for any sort of help & don't provide details. ;)

Shog9

To: SE team
Subject: P0rblem

Halp?

From: SE team
Subject: Re: P0rblem

As requested, your account has been removed.

Regards,

6

hichris123

@Shog9 Well, I mean you did fix the problem. If they don't have an account, they don't have to worry about q-bans, or rate limits, or not being able to login...

Shog9

it's like the sonic screwdriver of support

Frank

starred because of mention of 'sonic screwdriver'*

:D

Jason C

2:18 AM

Conceptually speaking, why does superuser.com/users/349115… (and similar) deserve to access review queues, create tags, edit questions/answers, create tag synonyms, and in a matter of time vote to close questions, and everything above that?

Frank

@JasonC Because everyone upvoted his question. :O

hichris123

72

Q: Revisiting the rep cap (yes, again)

TL;DR: The rep cap system isn't as effective or fair as it might be. I'm proposing one alternative for comment, and would welcome other suggestions too. Disclaimers I'm pretty sure the rep cap hits me harder than anyone else (pretty often over 1000 points in a day), so a change could easily be ...

user259867

Yeah. On Math we have a user who has these privileges by virtue of copy-pasting a funny pic from the internet.

Frank

@WeaponofChoice That's just sad...

user259867

2:37 AM

Another copy-pasted funny pic earned almost 2000 so far. Notably, it is the question with most downvotes on the site by far (112 as of now). For the most part, Math users did not like it. But SO users had their lulz, and richly rewarded the author.

Andrew T.

Because of hot question.

And thus, the feature-request

13

Q: Prevent questions on Hot List from being upvoted by casual visitors (only rep is from association bonus)

I have experienced this on a couple of sites (and I'm not the only one) : You look through the question list. You see a pretty bad (or at least not-so-good) question heavily upvoted. Or even worse, a very poor answer to a good question - upvoted to stratosphere. Or even worse, a very poor/inc...

feature-request voting hot-questions bonus-reputation

user259867

The Batman traffic was driven mostly by yCombinator, actually. Back in 2011 the hot list was not as prominent as it is now.

Frank

I love this comment:

Enjoy your gold badge, dude. ;) — Ｊ. Ｍ. Jul 31 '11 at 2:50

user259867

Uh oh, it's almost 3am UTC. Time to sneakily downvote some 1-upvote answers to old closed questions.

Jason C

@hichris123 I dunno about all those cap changing arguments. I'd just like to see a minimum number of answer posts + membership time in addition to rep for privileges.

Frank

2:58 AM

@WeaponofChoice On GL, I have 49 of the 89 badge types.

user259867

Missing Peer Pressure, try to earn that one.

Frank

@WeaponofChoice Unsung hero would be hard too.

Aha! 14 views to a gold badge! gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

user259867

13 now...

user259867

Everyone go look at Frank's question!

2

Andrew T.

Tavern effect~

Frank

3:05 AM

Hah!

@WeaponofChoice I should try to get precognitive. :P

Jason C

Are views counted only from logged in users?

If not I got you from my cell phone and a couple proxies too, lol.

user259867

You say "I joined this site July 6 '11, if I remember straight"... there's a timestamp showing when you hover over "member for" line, it's accurate up to a second.

Andrew T.

Or unique visitor

Frank

@JasonC ip addresses.

user259867

For a logged-in user, it's per account. So, when I used my phone (where I'm also logged in), I opened the question in private tab. +1 anonymous user.

Frank

3:11 AM

woohoo, ten ip addresses needed to view!

@WeaponofChoice Where do you get that?

Jason C

@Frank I just got you one from the w3c validator. (It failed, by the way.)

user259867

(Not Frank's fault). I read this description of how the views are counted, but it may be out of date....

user259867

+1 from Google Translate (I think it counts)

Jason C

Oh yeah and from Bing translator

This is more difficult than I expected. 7 more to go.

Frank

7 views to go.

Andrew T.

3:18 AM

just ping everybody on this chat

run away

user259867

View count is probably cached...

Frank

@everybody view my question.

Spam? ^

Jason C

@WeaponofChoice It seems to update right away.

There's one from webpagetest.org, lol...

Frank

@JasonC yep, when I hit f5.

Jason C

This one web page performer tester made me type a captcha. As if I'd be abusing the system.

Frank

3:22 AM

Well, if I don't get a badge in the next thirty minutes or so, I'm headin' off to bed anyway... catch it in the morning.

user259867

4 to go!

Frank

ooh, two more views to go.

user259867

Hm, caching?

Frank

@WeaponofChoice I see 2 still.

Now I can say...

Made you look!

user259867

Jason C

3:28 AM

Lol

I'm blowing through validators and stuff. I think they have to load objects on the page to load the counter, instead of just grabbing one http response.

Frank

waits

Jason C

oh come ON

brokenlinkcheck.com: Sorry, URLs with slashes are not supported in the free version.

Lol.

I.e. "There is no free version." I guess.

@Frank There you go. Thank deadlinkchecker.com.

Frank

Woot. There I go.

Jason C