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FOX 9000

@ProgramFOX 4 // Chosen by fair dice roll. Guaranteed to be random.

>>xkcd 221

>>xkcd 1000

2:08 PM

>>xkcd "when you assume"

FOX 9000

@Unihedron Command contains invalid characters.

:/

@Unihedron Only accepts IDs. (xkcd search is too slow to implement it in my bot)

You could have a text file that stores ID - Name mapping. :P

2:10 PM

Nah, then I'd have to make my own search algorithm :P

rene

brb

See you!

cu

The folks on meta want to meet you, M…

Me and the tree, still waiting...

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening | Dubstep / Trap / Chillout

@Unihedron who is Mihir? What did I miss?

2:18 PM

@ShadowWizard read the transcript..

^^^

Q: Please help me write a Java program

@ShadowWizard He is a finalist in Google Science Fair.

Doorknob

2:39 PM

-3

Please help me write a Java program that calculates and prints the equation on the picture below . I'm required to do it in JDK 7 with Neatbeans. I tried to do it myself but it doesn't seem to be right . Here is the equation :http://s8.postimg.org/g5lizydad/6_1.png Here's what I tried to do : htt...

java

@Doorknob the editor so tried..

This is 1000% crap, voted to delete.

I wonder at times how Skeet survives so many bad questions in the Java tag, he is the top answerer in the tag, and he writes very useful comments on the worst posts on weekdays - he is a good person with a lot of patience

@InfiniteRecursion He's Jon Skeet, that's why... :O

@InfiniteRecursion yeah, I envy his children!

GnomeSlice

2:44 PM

Who?

The user with the most rep on SO all-time, @GnomeSlice

@ShadowWizard While I agree with the delvote... I've seen worse, actually

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/26083099/2982225

@ShadowWizard assigning a variable inside a function call is just a stylistic error. Trying to declare it inside a function call is a syntax error.

I feel bad when help vampires disturb Skeet

No. Post a new question - stop adding comments to this one. I won't be adding anything more here. — Jon Skeet yesterday

2:49 PM

@InfiniteRecursion voted

status-closed

@JanDvorak looks like the code compiles for the poor user but it does not do what he wants. Guess he reached it by sheer guessing.

It surely doesn't compile

Thanks @TGMCians

@JonSkeet, there is some serious issue going on, apparently someone is impersonating you: stackoverflow.com/users/4084312/jon-skeet — s.bandara yesterday

for two reasons at least

Great edit: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5875923

2:53 PM

@AstroCB cv-pls

> Having a cup of coffee and a bucket of artistic liberty, I rewrote the whole thing as it is fairly interesting question.

wait..

status-closed

@AstroCB what's wrong with it?

@Unihedron Why? It seems fine to me.

@ShadowWizard He's praising the edit.

2:55 PM

^

@Unihedron oh, thought he's being cynical

@hichris123 It would have been a great question if it was answered, but without one, it would not be useful until it gets answered, and it doesn't seem like it would be - it's too broad.

@Unihedron But how is it too broad? I can tell you from my research the past few days on why a syscall() doesn't work, it's a fairly straightforward process to implement a syscall in the kernel...

Also, coffee on weekends should be banned for SO/MSO users, every crap posted on weekends mentions coffee

@Unihedron so you close just because it's too hard to answer?? Doesn't seem right to me. Voting to reopen, from what I see the request there is quite focused.

2:58 PM

@ShadowWizard Eh, ok.

Jan's script thinks this is suspicious :o meta.stackexchange.com/questions/239456/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26086199/…

Sep 20 at 9:21, by Jan Dvorak

I'd like to reduce the amount of false positives, though

SPAM english.stackexchange.com/questions/198751/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26086069/…

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 Of course

3:06 PM

@Unihedron Why didn't Smokey catch that?

!!/help

@hichris123 must investigate! :)

@ShadowWizard Commands: !!/rev?, !!/alive?

@hichris123 Hmm... let's see what the new phone number stuff does here.

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26086055/…

3:07 PM

@hichris123 that's all? No playing around? :(

@ShadowWizard Nope.

!!/rev?

@hichris123 closed by ani

lololo

@hichris123 Phonenumbers did catch that, perhaps a glitch.

3:09 PM

!!/rev

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 26 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

:2457752 ff4bbba

@ProgramFOX But did the regex catch that?

@hichris123 when command is given here it answers in the HQ?? That's a new one

@hichris123 The phone numbers regex is gone, and it is not included in the other regexes.

^

@ShadowWizard That's... not supposed to happen.

3:10 PM

@ShadowWizard Shouldn't be happening, fix will be out soon.

@hichris123 cheers, my pleasure to find bugz :P

!!/rev?

@ShadowWizard github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/…

@hichris123 Ah, I only made !!/alive? available in the Tavern by doing that, forgot about !!/rev?.

@ProgramFOX yeah, Undo I think forgot to put that in.

3:13 PM

status-by-dev-forgetting

@ProgramFOX Is it? github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

I thought the phonenumbers library just validated stuff.

@hichris123 No, I did. But better use the postMessageInRoom method, I created that one for this purpose.

@ProgramFOX Ok, I'll fix these then.

hi

hi

3:16 PM

Why is this code bad? a='';for(var i=48;i>0;i--)a+=('Bonbon ' + i + ', ');a+='and that was the Bonbon song!';alert(a);

hi

@hichris123 Oh, indeed. I was wrong about that. Let's check the regex then.

Doorknob is saying it's bad, so I'm assuming it's bad

hi

@TheWobbuffet Because it is not golfed enough :D

3:17 PM

But am i doing any bad practices or anything?

@TheWobbuffet I would not say bad, it seems legit, maybe it can be optimized or written in a more elegant way that's all

oh yeah it can be golfed more if i remove var

@TheWobbuffet 'Bonbon ' + i + ', ' -> 'Bonbon '+i+', '

yeah that too

But not only Doorknob, another friend of mine is saying it's really bad

@TheWobbuffet If it is not for a golfing contest, you shouldn't golf.

3:18 PM

I'm putting it in my skype profile so it needs to be golfed :P

POB / OT? stackoverflow.com/questions/7296515/…

In my skype desc I'm telling people to copy/paste it in their browsers with javascript:

Rec-book-tool for me @uni, not pob

there's a link-only answer, should it be flagged?

Yes

3:20 PM

@hichris123 I checked, and the regex catched it.

Q: Should low quality novice questions be deleted?

1

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26085965/calculate-and-print-piecewise-function This question is a typical novice question. Or maybe a bit worse than typical. It started as: Please help me write a Java program Please help me write a Java program that calculates and prints the equatio...

discussion question-quality vote-to-delete

Go respond you non-moderators you. :P

@ProgramFOX huh

More specifically, Doorknob is saying I'm a terrible programmer because "that code is terrible"

@TheWobbuffet it can be optimized a bit by using array instead of string concatenation which is a bad practice: jsfiddle.net/05hpgdcg

other than that, not sure why @Doorknob thinks it's bad

@TheWobbuffet What @ShadowWizard said, using an array is better here.

3:24 PM

He's one of those code reviewers. Always looking down on us like "Oh you can improve that!"

Doorknob, Texas

101 1 4

;)

@hichris123 You replied to the wrong message ;P

Ha I didn't even think about Code Review SE, but that would have been hilarious if he participated there.

@animuson He never would. Code Review is the evil nemesis of Code Golf.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IS THERE A TOR VPN WITH THE TOR BROWSER on tor.stackexchange.com

3:27 PM

Some sort of showdown? "Do you improve your code, or shrink it to the point of unreadability? Which side are you on?"

@animuson As long as it works on my machine..

@animuson once upon a time, things were simple. "If it works, don't touch it". I miss those days! :D

I vote to delete when the post is only attracting more noise and is not likely to ever be made into a proper question. Rude feedback, argumentation about what makes something on-topic or not, etc. are all noise and qualify a post for fast-tracked deletion. — Martijn Pieters 58 secs ago

@animuson, that question was closed and deleted from here a few minutes ago chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89?m=2457671#2457671

but...it was a very bad question :(

@InfiniteRecursion I know, that's why I posted the link to the Meta question about it here. :)

3:29 PM

@ProgramFOX ooops. ;P

I think (s)he was watching, @inf, and so: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2457827#2457827

animuson is a he @uni, not a (s)he

Ugh, genders... hard

@InfiniteRecursion what makes you think so? The hat? ;)

@InfiniteRecursion @animuson is a pedantic problem, though.

3:32 PM

> Stack Overflow has ~~4225~~ 0 comments less than 15 characters in length.

9

@animuson when did that happen?

Just now. :P

cool! your doing?

don't confess, it's a trap

@InfiniteRecursion great, now you scared him off :(

3:33 PM

I've deleted 14,709 comments this month. :o

@animuson Go nuke some comments for me, then!

Should I come up with a new regex for crappy comments?

@JanDvorak already kinda sorta done.

Votes 0 / -11 Posts Created 0

In the form of SEDE queries.

3:36 PM

@ShadowWizard What makes you think that I scared him? That hat? ;)

nuke pls stackoverflow.com/questions/26086523/…

@animuson I really, really, really hope you're using some sort of script

@ShadowWizard ThiefMaster's handy script

~~I really really hope you don't confess~~

@animuson data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/edit/157555

Also data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/edit/157551

3:39 PM

I had a file of more comment IDs to kill somewhere but I don't remember where I saved it.

And mine too! data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/223313/…

@Unihedron underspecced, but it might make a nice PCG challenge

Is it a circle or a sphere? Circles don't have z-values — Infinite Recursion 37 secs ago

It's a cylinder!

define circle, sphere, cylinder

3:42 PM

It's a... picture

It's a trap!

Let's migrate it to....earth science! :P

Earth is spherical... makes sense...

not quite;

Sep 21 at 19:37, by hichris123

ES's list is boring. i.e. none.

3:47 PM

@Unihedron Booo need a post ID column. :P Post link doesn't do me any good.

A closer approximation is an oblate spheroid with a 22km smaller polar radius than equatorial radius

wonders what's going on

@animuson Go manual, clear the "You're welcome" comments too :P

ES mod gets bored as no one posts crap about the oblate spheroid with a 22km smaller polar radius than equatorial radius

hah

3:50 PM

You get bored, so we are planning to send crap there to keep you busy @hichris123 :P

night! :P

@Unihedron Night!

night

in The folks on meta want to meet you, Mihir on Stack Overflow Chat, 30 secs ago, by gtmtg

Hi everyone! Sorry I didn't see this until now but thank you so much!

2

Quick! He's here!

You should inform him about stalking him from the tavern

12 hours ago, by Santa Claus

Lets not link him to the tavern since we were kinda stalking him over here...

^bad idea

3:55 PM

Yay 2k on mse!

in The folks on meta want to meet you, Mihir on Stack Overflow Chat, 32 secs ago, by gtmtg

If you guys have any questions about my project or anything I would be happy to answer them!

^ An AMA if anyone wants to ask anything... :P

^Isn't it a misuse/abuse of SO chat room?

Don't know. It's still on-topic I think.

@InfiniteRecursion I guess.

Well, you could say it's kinda programming related.

Off-topic for SO-chat, you guys know that...but good luck with rule-breaking

4:01 PM

> * What can we chat about? *
This site is an extension of Stack Overflow, so discussion should more or less revolve around the same topics you'd find at Stack Overflow — but in an interactive, less strictly Q&A focused way. Do have fun, but please keep it professional and always be respectful of your fellow community members.

Huh.

Which SO topic is it related to? 'Kinda programming related' is off-topic for SO

@InfiniteRecursion eh, do we talk about stuff related to mSE? :P

Let's vote to close The SO Tavern!

why

You are a mod, you know better @hichris123. Anyway, I give up. Stalk the guy, and have fun :)

4:05 PM

Is something wrong @nic?

Review shows that there are 3 reopen votes pending review, but when I click, I can't see any.

@nicael Blame caching.

@nicael http://shouldiblamecaching.com

caching!

4:06 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Meh, I think chat is really for whatever. You see us chatting about random stuff... most extreme example is the Lounge, which has nothing to do with C++.

^^

The room gets frozen when we get out of it anyway, so we're not breaking the place really..

@ProgramFOX ...for already an hour

hm

@nicael PRO tip: If there are no per-option links under "Reopen Votes", it's probably empty

Going to try to sleep again bye!

Bye!

4:11 PM

good night

night

@Unihedron good night

:D

@ProgramFOX by the way, check review, how many reopen votes you see?

also I see these when I click stats

@nicael The indicator shows that there are no items, but when I click on it, there are.

And there were 3 posts in the queue.

A: How do I perform a double assassination in Assassin's Creed III?

4:38 PM

-2

There is no real explanation on how to do it. I just face a guard and aim my camera at the second one and I just kill the first one and then move on to the next, and surprisingly I do not get into high profile and I don't get into any fights. I have beat the game twice now, so yeah.I know this st...

^ Made me laugh this morning.

"Ignore that amazing explanation up above, there is no explanation."

Haay. I got an unupvote on meta.stackexchange.com/q/237657/237813

Q: Do we need to brush our teeth?

^that kitten has a ferocious expression

43

While everyone is telling us that we should brush our teeth twice a day, the human species has evolved for several million years without any teeth brushing. Apes don't brush their teeth, and they don't have a mechanism to change their teeth like sharks and crocodiles. So why do human need to bru...

medical-science hygiene dentistry

@bjb568 Someone just fixed that.

@AstroCB Ugh. The edit.

Also, quit playing with the voting buttons!

4:48 PM

@bjb568 Thank my editing script.

github.com/AstroCB/Stack-Exchange-Editor-Toolkit

Thank you, editing script.

Q: Stack Exchange September 2014 Data Dump is available

11

The complete Stack Exchange data dump up to September 2014 is ready and can be found hosted on the Internet Archive. The latest can always be found here: https://archive.org/details/stackexchange The torrent is now available here: https://archive.org/download/stackexchange/stackexchange_archi...

discussion data-dump

^ Can that be closed as "unclear what you're asking?"

@AstroCB No. Why?

@ProgramFOX It's not a question; it's an announcement.

I'm not saying that it should be; I'm just wondering if it could.

@AstroCB It is, but that's valid on MSE.

4:51 PM

@ProgramFOX Okay.

5:21 PM

Hiya, just quickly stopping by.

@Sam Hiya!

Hiya

looks at star board I see much hasn't changed.

Heya

I'll power up Pham in a sec...

5:33 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26087624/…

... nevermind. :P

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26087530/…

@hichris123 CV all the questions by that user. Unclear.

CV stackoverflow.com/q/26056622/2371861

Stack Overflow is a prime example of a site that would benefit from a site-wide protection

night

night

night

5:44 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/17937312/…

vlq meta.stackexchange.com/questions/240184/…

Santa Claus

:( I missed the GSF finalist who came to that other chat room :(

Brb, dinner...

@ProgramFOX VLQ recent 2 SO questions. CV and DV all 3.

Answer is crap too. I flagged it for mod attention.

@bjb568 ... there is no answer on the question I linked.

5:53 PM

@ProgramFOX The answer posted by that user on SO.

@bjb568 oh, I see

Alright, WHO UPVOTED??? stackoverflow.com/users/2632380/…

Lynn Crumbling

@hichris123 Probably the answerer.

reject-plz stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5876723

@LynnCrumbling But they just upvoted 12 minutes ago.

6:00 PM

Oh, wait...no more too minor. Never mind, I guess.

Lynn Crumbling

ah, and answerer hasn't been seen in two days.

Where'd "too minor" go??

49

A: Approve as too minor

There are a couple of problems with this: The meaning of "too minor" varies widely between individuals. Are trivial changes always too minor, or only too minor when they ignore other, more damning problems with the post? The edits you provide as examples illustrate this nicely - even the last o...

@AstroCB Done, using "Reject and Edit": stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5876723

@ProgramFOX lol

@hichris123 Lol, we edited at the same time.

6:05 PM

CV stackoverflow.com/q/25840394/2371861

Got to go now, see you!

@bjb568 no plz?

cya

@hichris123 plz

Hiya

Hi

6:15 PM

Hiya

Frank

Slow day?

I missed the conversation with gtmtg

@Frank Well, it is sunday.

Frank

@Sam True. Last sunday there were half this many people in the room.

3ventic

> An unhandled exception of type 'System.StackOverflowException' occurred in Jypeli.dll

My first StackOverflow

Many wowz.

6:29 PM

in Low Quality Posts HQ, 51 secs ago, by Pham

Low Quality (64%): Hello, how to Create random number I want to be the range followed by the user (form html) language java script?, possible help, thank you, by Basem Nassar, on stackoverflow.com.

^ close plz

closed

@JanDvorak lol within 2 mins of asking