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Jan Dvorak

8:00 AM

and other than that it was ambiguous as hell and also a likely duplicate

TGMCians

> asked 16 mins ago

Zee Tee
4,28933265

Jan Dvorak

what's that score?

TGMCians

his reputation score is 4289

3 gold badges

32 silver badges

65 bronze badges

Jan Dvorak

it's weird he doesn't care about his quality... either that, or he didn't notice, which would be even weirder

TGMCians

agreed

Jan Dvorak

8:06 AM

Should rep change from downvotes not be reverted when a question is deleted?

TGMCians

yes

Jan Dvorak

> Windows is not responding:
> * Page is not responding - Chrome

time to launch a kickstarter for a new PC

lostsock

@JanDvorak so you want to penalize downvotes even more? no thanks

Jan Dvorak

@lostsock why not? Deleted questions = bad

undeleted crappy questions are even worse, I know

lostsock

oh, so you mean the downvotes that the questioner received

Infinite Recursion

8:17 AM

I see that @uni is going to build a bot to detect when Jan falls off the shelf...amusing

Jan Dvorak

@lostsock yep

Infinite Recursion

@Jan, is spam canary open source?

Jan Dvorak

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A: SPAM deluge over at WebApps (and pretty much all over SE)

aug 19 - tex.se is under attack. Yes, this is a call to arms. Keep flagging the spam posts while you can, anywhere they go. As this seems much heavier than the initial attack, I will try to notify the tex mods as well. I have written a userscript for the network-wide real-time feed - just copy/p...

lostsock

i still disagree with that

Jan Dvorak

@lostsock why?

Infinite Recursion

8:18 AM

^@uni Use Jan's userscript when he falls of the shelf

and please name your bot Dodo-Detection :)

lostsock

deleted questions count towards question ban, and if for some reason it isn't enough to stop majority of bad questions by same users , then it'd be a job for banning earlier alogorithm, not reputation disincentive

Infinite Recursion

What were the two bots doing btw?

!!/alive?

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion not at all

TGMCians

@InfiniteRecursion nothing sleeping

Jan Dvorak

bots are dead, I fail to announce to have gone to sleep - spam has a free range

lostsock

8:23 AM

@InfiniteRecursion don't look at me, I think it was @undo who programmed them to sleep 23 hours a day

TGMCians

:D

Infinite Recursion

Hmm, that is disappointing.

Atleast Zephyr is awake :)

@lostsock: how do you find spam when Jan sleeps? Userscript or manual monitoring of the realtimetab?

lostsock

spam sense

Jan Dvorak

@lostsock When did you wake up today?

lostsock

spam thirty

Jan Dvorak

8:32 AM

(CEST, please)

Infinite Recursion

bets @lostsock won't answer that

Unihedron

@JanDvorak cool script, only saw it just now :)

Jan Dvorak

should I prepare a canned message "I've fell asleep, someone please run [link]"?

Unihedron

nvm its my fault

Jan Dvorak

have you hit my breakpoint?

be sure to check "enable notifications"

Infinite Recursion

8:36 AM

@Jan, some users don't reveal info about themselves, no good mornings, good nights, no reference to our timezones etc....@lostsock and I fall in that category. That's why lostsock said he woke up at spam thirty

Unihedron

@JanDvorak Realized, hence it's my fault :)

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/130373/…

Unihedron

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/130373/…

How to write userscripts?

Jan Dvorak

(spoiler warning for Guardians of the Galaxy)

@Unihedron you just specify a greasemonkey header (name, where the script should run) and then javascript that then runs over the page

Unihedron

cool, what's javascript?

SilentKiller

8:40 AM

:O

Jan Dvorak

JavaScript

JavaScript (JS; English pronunciation: /'dʒɑvəˌskrɪpt/) is a dynamic computer programming language, and increasingly considered an "assembly" language (a compiler target) or "the x86 of the web" according to its creator and others. It is most commonly used as part of web browsers, whose implementations allow client-side scripts to interact with the user, control the browser, communicate asynchronously, and alter the document content that is displayed. It is also being used in server-side network programming (with Node.js), game development and the creation of desktop and mobile applications...

rene

@TGMCians You like making fun of c#, don't you? ;)

SilentKiller

Uni are you allright?

Unihedron

I was trolling, but does that mean I write code that automatically runs once when the page starts up, so I can register event handlers or something equivalent like using the console?

TGMCians

@rene no

rene

8:41 AM

@TGMCians Oh, OK

TGMCians

:)

it depends on my mood :)

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron yes

read my script source code

Unihedron

It's too long to read, and the "TODO" comments are confusing.

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron well... except for the "using the console" part

Unihedron

gotcha

Jan Dvorak

8:44 AM

@Unihedron in L26:L49 I set up a websocket connection

which is just a single constructor call followed by three function definitions

@Unihedron I'd like to have a code review from you; how readable is my code?

Unihedron

It's great! Love the slopes

Jan Dvorak

I always sort my declarations by length

me too :)

brb

Kk

8:54 AM

@uni, bots have a lot of constraints in terms of having the infrastructure to give them good uptime and enough learning. I think you can help more with userscript as compared to writing another bot....it's entirely a suggestion as a friend...feel free to ignore it :)

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion Gotcha :)

Infinite Recursion

9:08 AM

What is the number that shows under "ignore this user" in out chat profiles? For me it's 5 and it's 4 for Jan, 8 for rene...

Unihedron

5 for you, 4 for Jan, 8 for rene as well

Hover over it, it's "all time rooms" joined

i have 9, i win

where where ?

chat profile

@lostsock I have 11, I win! :D

Unihedron

9:10 AM

8 :/

Infinite Recursion

Thanks @uni, am using SE on my phone, so couldn't hover :D

lostsock

starts creating rooms

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion lol :D

SilentKiller

am on 5 only.

Unihedron

There's a game called Stack Overload on android.

Infinite Recursion

9:12 AM

I thought it may be the number of users who are ignoring us @uni

SilentKiller

@InfiniteRecursion that won't show to other users

Infinite Recursion

Does it show it to the user who is ignored @sil?

SilentKiller

nopes.

its like blocking some user on whats app or on cell Phone. we just dont get his/her notifications

Infinite Recursion

Ok

SilentKiller

:)

@uni you got your string tag ?

Unihedron

9:15 AM

@SilentKiller Nah, tag scores update 08:00 Stack Overflow time :)

Infinite Recursion

tie the string on your finger for better memory @uni, once you get it

Unihedron

@inf: Ay ay!

SilentKiller

aye aye captain. :D

Infinite Recursion

Did you try Jan's userscript @uni?

Unihedron

Yes, it runs very well!

42 mins ago, by Jan Dvorak

SPAM http://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/130373/how-to-shun-bodyweight-without-‌endeavours

42 mins ago, by Unihedron

SPAM http://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/130373/how-to-shun-bodyweight-without-‌endeavours

Infinite Recursion

9:20 AM

Good to know :)

Now we have two saviors

Jan Dvorak

I'd like to reduce the amount of false positives, though

Infinite Recursion

You can sleep in peace now @Jan, @uni is watching the skies

!!/alive?

ProgramFOX

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 13 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

Infinite Recursion

no, still asleep

ProgramFOX

(just tried it in Charcoal HQ, worked fine there)

!!/alive?

Hmm...

Infinite Recursion

9:27 AM

good to know that @ProgramFox

ProgramFOX

Perhaps it's dead here...

SilentKiller

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/25947257/1160282

ProgramFOX

I rebooted SmokeDetector, just to be sure.

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 41 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

!!/reboot

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX You doubt me?

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion ^

Infinite Recursion

9:30 AM

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@InfiniteRecursion Yup

Infinite Recursion

We never doubt you Smokey

@ProgramFox: Could Smokey be missing stuff while it's processing a post? Since the bayesian thing is added, processing time must have increased. So, maybe the input for Smokey comes in faster than it processes them, and a buffering or queueing of the inputs could help

Sam

Morning.

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion No idea, we'll need to have some spam posted to check that. But Smokey handles spam in a different thread, so I don't know whether a queue would help.

@Sam Morning!

Unihedron

NUKE-PLS stackoverflow.com/q/25947380/3622940

Infinite Recursion

9:37 AM

We had some spam missed some time ago, you can see them if you scroll a bit up @ProgramFox, Smokey missed those spam

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion Because there were no 'bad words' in the title.

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron is that not programming-related?

Infinite Recursion

Ok, got it now @ProgramFox :)

Unihedron

@JanDvorak it's about how to deploy gift cards

Infinite Recursion

/me wants gift cards

Jan Dvorak

9:40 AM

closed

g2g, bye

Cya

Sleepy owl

Bye bye!

Bye Jan

@Uni (Just an update on Pham's development.) After a few hours of research on statistical analysis, machine learning, blah blah blah; I've come to the conclusion that any "analysis" command is going to be either: too inaccurate, too complex or too expensive. So, I'm gonna drop the whole with that command and just continue on the whitelist scoring system instead.

Unihedron

9:42 AM

@Sam xD

Jan Dvorak

@Sam I like the "too complex" and "too expensive" options

Sam

lol

Infinite Recursion

Go dodo, take a break :)

Jan Dvorak

I should change my avatar...

SilentKiller

another owl pls ;)

Jan Dvorak

9:45 AM

what about a winterbash owl peeking through a badly drawn telescope?

Infinite Recursion

Just because I call you dodo?

Jan Dvorak

I'm not a fan of you having called me that.

Infinite Recursion

Don't listen to what random ducks say on the internet.

and SPArcheologist calls you a dodo too, it isn't just me.

Jan Dvorak

I'm not a fan of either of you calling me that

SilentKiller

Jan whats your first choice for new avatar ?

Jan Dvorak

9:49 AM

g2g, sorry

::poof::

Infinite Recursion

Boobies and ducks and chicks don't mind, why do dodos mind? :/

rene

@TGMCians cv-pls c# crap stackoverflow.com/questions/25947091/…

Infinite Recursion

@uni: are you guarding the skies? Jan is gone

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion There are no spam, only false-positives yet...

Infinite Recursion

Good to know you are watching

phew

rene

9:58 AM

I have the spam helper running as well..

:)

Nice @rene

@rene need 1 cv

I won't call you that anymore @Jan, don't change your avatar

rene

@SilentKiller that seems doable.. tnx...

SilentKiller

10:01 AM

@rene welcome. :)

rene

cv-pls-typo stackoverflow.com/questions/25947531/…

SilentKiller

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/25947396/1160282

rene

EEEEEK! goto don't do that....please....don't...really...don't... — rene 14 secs ago

Unihedron

off-site resource recommendation? stackoverflow.com/q/12137990/3622940

cv-pls security.stackexchange.com/q/67805/55679

rene

10:19 AM

@Unihedron No, too broad (because you would have to explain for every single VCS how pre-commit hooks work) or Unclear because extra details are needed to answer it. The two answers are just a guess in the right direction.

Unihedron

thanks for clarification!

SPAM weight loss tips

SilentKiller

@Unihedron gone

Unihedron

SPAM What is people review about skin care products?

SilentKiller

@Unihedron gone

Unihedron

@SilentKiller :) !

ProgramFOX

10:27 AM

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX ... did I miss something?

ProgramFOX

Hmm... in Charcoal HQ, it is not alive and I also cannot reboot there.

And rebooting here is not possible, because the chat IDs are not the same here...

!!/reboot

Indeed, nothing happened.

Infinite Recursion

That piece of Spam had a title with bad keywords and Smokey was alive and missed it. Add to to-do debug list please

Unihedron

nuke-pls stackoverflow.com/q/25947887/3622940

SilentKiller

10:43 AM

status-closed

Unihedron

:)

SilentKiller

@uni my notifications like comments or pings not showing is it happening with you too ?

Unihedron

@SilentKiller Possible duplicate of Achievements indicator no longer showing number for rep change

Oooh gold badge!

SilentKiller

@Mysticial good chance you'll get the number back when the bug is fixed, so if you're into hoarding it, do not click the drawer! ;-) — Shadow Wizard 13 hours ago

i clicked many times.. :-/

checking notification through mobile and giving answers to comments..

@Unihedron Completed at least 1,000 review tasks. This badge is awarded once per review type.

Unihedron

Yes, I want a gold tag badge!

SilentKiller

10:58 AM

you received recently. :)

yup

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion No, there were no bad keywords in the title.

Unihedron

POB why would you ever use IE, Internet Explorer?

Unihedron

11:27 AM

SPAM weight loss food plan

TGMCians

yeah

flag it ^^

one more..

SilentKiller

Spam at -5

TGMCians

yup

pokes @Inf

Infinite Recursion

Done

TGMCians

gone

thanks

SilentKiller

11:38 AM

POB still there

TGMCians

I can't vote there

I can flag it only

SilentKiller

same here.

TGMCians

same for Uni also

Frank

I have to sit out this infernal rain, no more work today until it stops :(

SilentKiller

@Frank morning

Sam

11:40 AM

@Frank morning

Infinite Recursion

@ProgramFox: The titles had "skin care" and "weight loss", these look like bad keywords for Spam, please consider adding them as bad keywords for Smokey

TGMCians

^^^

Frank

@SilentKiller Yeah, I only got in 1 1/2 hrs of work, and it begins to rain!

@everyone morning!

Unihedron

Jan's script tagged the question I just posted as potential spam. ._.

Infinite Recursion

Morning

TGMCians

11:41 AM

o/

Unihedron

Morning!

\o

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion Will add them when I make !!/reboot available here. I will disable 'weight loss' for fitness.SE though.

3

Unihedron

I also used up the five tag spots so there cannot be [status-bydesign] added. :D

ProgramFOX

:D

Infinite Recursion

Jan did say that he would like to reduce the number of false positives, you can try to help him in that @uni :)

Unihedron

11:46 AM

I have no clue how his script works though. I think the links are a problem.

Infinite Recursion

Perhaps text body with a trailing link. Have heard him mention it innumerable times in the tavern, haven't seen his script code though.

Sep 3 at 18:15, by Jan Dvorak

If it's got a trailing link, multiple paragraphs of words with no periods, it's probably worth flagging.

Unihedron

Mercy! There be five periods in my post!

Infinite Recursion

Sep 2 at 14:25, by Jan Dvorak

@Undo trailing URLs

The trailing url was the red flag in your post. Next time notice the structure of a true spam, they have lots of periods and a trailing url @uni.

Unihedron

Thanks for the explain!

Infinite Recursion

Code is a lot like poetry in that aspect @uni, it reflects ones style and their way of thinking. Since you talk to Jan in the tavern, you will find it easier to understand his code. Also, he has asked you for a code review too :)

Unihedron

11:59 AM

Yes... I should read through the code :)

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