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1:13 AM
I remember someday Tim or someone else talking about this does anyone remembers?
2:08 AM
Wow. There's a ton of link-only answers in the LQP queue.
@hichris123, SmokeDetector is in Python right? Does it use the API or the websockets?
@Andy Python, Websockets.
Ok. Nevermind then. I was wondering if it had been having problems with this
has anyone ran any stats yet on the SO socratic gold badge users? Interesting to see if a lot of the users who got that badge are from questions asked prior to the new review era.
2:23 AM
@VotetoClose the badge is retroactive
@hichris123 bonus points for the one he's linking
@hichris123 Is that spam? Or is he saying his account was hacked? He seems to be in shock either way.
@VotetoClose It seems like the kind of nonsensical spam we get...
@Cupcake you out of votes?
On those questions, yes.
@VotetoClose Just knocked out the one.
I've already cast and retracted them when I wasn't sure which one was a good duplicate.
3:07 AM
@Braiam I was trying to run some Socratic badge queries... but I guess I won't be able to query by badge id or name until the next update...
so Microsoft has employees on SO? that are suppose to identify themselves? stackoverflow.com/users/3547276/vinay-shah-microsoft
Is that supposed to be surprising?
Everyone uses Stack Overflow...even the haters.
I don't mean that they use SO, of course they do. I mean that he has - Microsoft in his name... just haven't seen that before
@VotetoClose Jon Skeet profile:
> Author of C# in Depth.
Currently a software engineer at Google, London.
**Usually a Microsoft MVP** (C#, 2003-2010, 2011-)
3:23 AM
@VotetoClose oh, I didn't notice that part.
as you can see Google does, Facebook has some, and there are other companies involved
Yea, I found some more with a query. Never seen "unregistered" before in a profile stackoverflow.com/users/413962/david-trowbridge-microsoft , guess this is why meta.stackexchange.com/questions/68524/…
4:14 AM
The OP said "I have used a script to find out the largest objects", but there is more than one script in the linked blog post, so I don't know which one should be edited into the question.
4:31 AM
This question has 68 answers on it, the last one was about a month ago:
Q: How do JavaScript closures work?

e-satisHow would you explain closures to someone with a knowledge of the concepts which make up closures (e.g. functions, variables and the like), but does not understand closures themselves? I have seen the Scheme example given in Stack Overflow, and it did not help. Articles linked in post Wikiped...

Do moderators occasionally lock or add notices to community wiki questions like that, asking people to improve existing content instead of trying to add new answers that probably no one will ever read?
@VotetoClose talk about impatient, huh?
4:59 AM
@Cupcake meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262410/… primarlity opinion based
6:38 AM
@hichris123: you cannot cv answers..
@VotetoClose you know, this guy kinda has a point...
@VotetoClose , hey , i asked there When I mean how to get Tag score achieved to 1K ,You also answered it Get Tatal Upvotes and subtract Downvotes . This is about time .That Question was about How to get score...I by mistake used word WHEN there.I am correcting .This is not Duplicate. — Pratik Joshi 2 hours ago
@FinalContest here's one:
# remove a tree from entire repo history
git filter-branch --index-filter "git rm -rf --cached --ignore-unmatch $files" HEAD

# pull in a repo without the junk
a git pull file://$(pwd)/myGitRepo
Here's the other:
6:41 AM
#set -x

# Shows you the largest objects in your repo's pack file.
# Written for osx.
# @see stubbisms.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/…
# @author Antony Stubbs

# set the internal field spereator to line break, so that we can iterate easily over the verify-pack output

# list all objects including their size, sort by size, take top 10
objects=`git verify-pack -v .git/objects/pack/pack-*.idx | grep -v chain | sort -k3nr | head`
paste engines, man ;)
the post clearly marks one of them as "the script". I see no issue in there, I am afraid.
"And without further a due, here is the script:"
it is gramatically incorrect a sentence, but that is another question.
Ok, fair enough, I'll retract close vote.
is this copyright violation? profile pic same as Jeff Atwoods stackoverflow.com/users/3395198/amiya ... stackoverflow.com/users/1/jeff-atwood
I noticed a user like that earlier.
I'm not sure if it's the same one.
6:46 AM
Jeff got special permission from someone to use that pic as an avatar on his blog.
well, different users having the same avatar does not violate anything per se
Hold on, I think profile picks have to be licensed under Creative Commons too.
is that picture trademarked in any way? That is the main question.
@FinalContest we're not talking about just any other user here
users do not matter here, really.
6:47 AM
It belongs to the guy who wrote Code Complete, or Rapid Development, one or the other (or both).
Like I said, Jeff got special permission to use that avatar, but user avatars are CC on Stack Overflow.
Hold on, I'm looking some stuff up...
I think what matters is trademark and SE site policy, but I would be very surprised if any two different users could not have the same avatar.
According to Jeff's About Me:
Why would it bother you anyhow? :) How do you know Guido is the real Guido on SO, for instance?
6:50 AM
> I asked, and Steve was kind enough to let me to use the image and the name for my blog.
Personally I don't care that much, but I'm interested if there's any substance behind the copyright issue.
@Cupcake: that is probably about the naming choice and the mood of the picture rather than the trademark of it.
I do not see any legal statement there.
The image is used in a book. That's where it originally came from. If it weren't for SO's CC, I would say that it's a copyright violation to use it without promotion.
6:53 AM
@Cupcake: mind proving that with legal statement?
Here's something interesting:
> Identity Theft and Privacy. Users that misleadingly appropriate the identity of another person are not permitted. Users may not post other people's personally identifying or confidential information, including but not limited to credit card numbers, Social Security Numbers, and driver's and other license numbers. You may not post information such as other people's passwords, usernames, phone numbers, addresses and e-mail addresses unless already publicly accessible on the Web.
I see we already have some good and fruitful debate going on..
6:54 AM
Fruitful? Debatable. ;)
@Cupcake: I do not see anything about this icon in there, I am afraid.
I'm still doing research :P
@rene whenever Mr. Contest is involved, the debate is always highly fruitful.
> Copyright. Using copyrighted material does not constitute infringement in all cases. In general, however, users should be careful when using copyrighted content without the permission of those who created it. It is our policy to respond to notices of alleged infringement that comply with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA").
6:56 AM
CC doesn't protect you against DMCA.
I still did not get answer for my original question: is that picture trademarked/copyrighted?
If someone were to issue a DMCA to SO about that user's profile pic, they'd probably have to take it down.
YES! It's copyrighted!
Either way, I don't think users should be able to be named Jeff Atwood, or have the same profile pic as him.
show me the legal text.
@VotetoClose: LOL
6:57 AM
Now you're just trolling :P
@Cupcake: no, you claim illegit behavior for someone potentially. That is serious (harsh?), and should be only claimed when you can prove it.
I should get my face copyrighted...
there's only one other one stackoverflow.com/users/2771520/jeff-atwood , but it could be the real jeff atwood, just a dup account
@VotetoClose: let me ask my question again, how do you know Guido is the python author on SO?
or Linus Torvalds was Linus who would have likely no time for SO?
6:59 AM
I don't find that to be impersonation.
The name isn't "Jeff Atwood".
Though the user probably doesn't have permission to use the image.
@Cupcake But when I saw that picture in a thread I was in, I assumed, like most other regulars would, that that was Jeff Atwood... I just happened to look at the name like a second later and realized it wasn't. So at the very least it's deceptive.
Oh, by the way, SO doesn't enforce copyright unless issued a DMCA.
7 mins ago, by Cupcake
> Identity Theft and Privacy. Users that misleadingly appropriate the identity of another person are not permitted. Users may not post other people's personally identifying or confidential information, including but not limited to credit card numbers, Social Security Numbers, and driver's and other license numbers. You may not post information such as other people's passwords, usernames, phone numbers, addresses and e-mail addresses unless already publicly accessible on the Web.
7:01 AM
@VotetoClose think it's OK to flag one his posts and ask to reset the avatar. Worst case the flag will be declined.
> Users that misleadingly appropriate the identity of another person are not permitted.
I think this could possibly count, though the name is still not "Jeff Atwood".
Now that other user, on the other hand...
The icon is not figuring Jeff
7:02 AM
and he also got it from elsewhere, so you want to sue Jeff, too? :D
Definitely a no-no.
and anyway, why could a person not be called Jeff Atwood?
You will forbid that for every parents possible to give that name? :D
I should also get copyrighted my name...
This is the only thing that matters - http://stackexchange.com/legal/terms-of-service

>Stack Exchange reserves the right to remove any Subscriber Content from the Network, re-post to the Network any Subscriber Content removed by any Subscriber or former Subscriber, suspend or terminate Subscriber’s right to use the Services at any time, or pursue any other remedy or relief available to Stack Exchange and/or the Network under equity or law, for any reason (including, but not limited to, upon receipt of claims or allegations from third parties or authorities relating to such Subscriber Conte
7:03 AM
Oh wait.
17 secs ago, by Braiam
I should also get copyrighted my name...
That's actually a good point.
What if someone else is actually named Jeff Atwood?
how do i quote in chat?
@VotetoClose copy the link
paste the link
7:04 AM
@Braiam: that is not necessarily quoting...
Or same way you quote on Stack Overflow.
that is pasting everything said there, so if parts need to be quoted, it will not do that properly.
7:05 AM
> Text here.
@Cupcake: I would be very surprised if you could copyright names, especially since it is not digital content.
Can you inline user profiles?
7:05 AM
@VotetoClose check that one
@FinalContest I should copyright each line that I post in this chat...
oh backticks
@VotetoClose no... just copy and paste exactly what I show
No backticks :P
> Quote here
7:07 AM

> test
> Quote here
That's how you quote.
In chat.
Try again.
7:08 AM
@VotetoClose the unformated text we use chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/2161153/history
Wow, this is the first chat system I've ever used where I get rate-limited :/
@VotetoClose multilines doesn't quote
rate-limited means what?
@Braiam What? That's cool! I didn't know you could look at messages like that!
@FinalContest I presume rate-limited has a self containing meaning
@Cupcake yeah, I'm that cool
7:09 AM
@FinalContest means I can't submit a bunch of messages rapidly in a row.
@rene no
OK, understood...
7:10 AM
@Cupcake one post every second is totally reasonable
This is all @VotetoClose 's fault
@Cupcake: ah, yes, that is a nice feature for enter people.
We wouldn't be talking about formatting if he knew how to quote.
on IRC, we used automated messages for that !stop enter or so, but yeah, that was manual.
7:11 AM
lol fail :P
I would actually even "rate-limit" long pastes to avoid them.
does not work :p
@Cupcake FYI, IRC does rate-limiting, too. Even worse, it disconnects you from the server if you fill up the message buffer (usually 1kb) completely.
how can a site that uses cloudflare be off line for 6 hours!?
@ThiefMaster: never seen that happening. You may be referring to a specific server or something.
@ThiefMaster you know, I've never used IRC before.
7:13 AM
Is it useful?
@Braiam It shows a messagebox serverside Restart website? [Yes/No]
@rene Yes
@Cupcake: well, it is primarily opinion based.
SoundCloud isn't down for me.
7:14 AM
I can hear teh music.
@Cupcake not soundcloud.... soundcloud is the only thing that keeps me entertained...
Maybe that other site is being DDoSed?
CloudFlare can't protect you from everything, can it?
7:16 AM
A: facing issue while replaying the script on loadrunner 11.5

greeshmaI am facing a similar issue, the run time viewer doesn't load the correct page compared to the one i recorded. i m using 11.5 loadrunner. due to this my script fails and could not proceed to the next step. please reply soon as it is an urgent issue for me. Regards, Greesh

perhaps the question can be closed...
and delete the other answer, too... ahh burning thread...
Oh boy.
"oh boy" is not sex agnostic :p
there may be hiding ladies here.
Vote to close as unclear, or whatever.
starts looking at the undetermined sex avatars
Q: The use of gender-specific pronouns on Stack Overflow

DrVThis is just a small lingual question, but it started bothering me when writing an answer. I was writing something like this: "As User1234 pointed out in his answer..." Then I realized that if User1234 is a female user, she might be offended for a reason. Then I tried the same with "her". It did...

7:22 AM
If you're not offended while on SE, then you're not participating enough :p
real geekettes use irc anyway ;)
I'll check it out one of these days :P
@VotetoClose That's so offensive
7:45 AM
@Azar NO, please don't try that! — rene 11 secs ago
@VotetoClose: heh, true.
@rene you trying to get the pundit badge?
@FinalContest You still remember that discussion about the gender of one of the StackExchange staff member? whe should give her/him the link to the question ^_^
@rene oops, you already got it of course , but they really should come out with a gold comment badge
@SPArchaeologist: nope, I only recall bluefeet who got a "him".
7:49 AM
bluefeet isn't a SE staff member though
@rene Please read completely before answring. — Sahil 27 secs ago
@VotetoClose: that is why I said nope ;)
@Sahil I've read your question completely and I refuse to let that code be fixed in a way that has caused many problems. — rene 33 secs ago
@FinalContest nope... I don't remember the name now (too sleepy). But I remember the avatar with a female anime character, the fact I always assumed him/her to be female and the fact that some users got so much involved in the discussion that they started searching for a probably inexistent college photo.
@rene: 4 answers already! You should really have a gold badge.
@Sahil if you have such code, you are wide open to something called SQL Injection attack. Bottom line it means that hackers can easily take control over your database and possibly your whole server. You sure you want this? What rene linked to offers a better way with same results, but protecting against this kind of attack. — Shadow Wizard 50 secs ago
Think this will convince him?
7:55 AM
@FinalContest Yeah but competition in the c# tag is high...I never make it past Skeet..
@ShadowWizard Nope
almost 50% unanswered.
@FinalContest FOUND! It was Grace Note!
@FinalContest Oh..Ok...give me a minute...
@SPArchaeologist nobody knows if Grace Note is male or female as far as I can remember.
I think Grace Note is a Cactuar, on a side note.
7:58 AM
@ShadowWizard they set the "useless gender pronoun discussion record" attempting for about 3 hour to decide if they should say "her" or "him"
@SPArchaeologist gracenote?
@SPArchaeologist and what was the result?
A lot of males around here have female avatars. It's a little weird...
Also, I always thought Mysticial's name was Mystical :P
deleted by unhappy users
Luckily it was scraped on time: techques.com/question/23-137664/… :D
@Cupcake ... I thought it was Mystical until you just mentioned it
@rene: lol :D
@Stijn I never noticed until I posted it.
8:02 AM
There it is, in big blue font.
@Cupcake not weird, it's mostly from games or anime
Right, but it tends to be female avatars for male users.
@SPArchaeologist: yeah, I think it was discussed on meta.
@SPArchaeologist: I have also seen users putting up lady pictures to get views.
I don't get it. So Grace Note is a female just like I thought she was, b.c of the name *Grace* .. and according to this comment in her (profile)[http://meta.stackexchange.com/users/146126/grace-note], it seems she is in fact a girl
> > > "Being an Alice in the world of computing can be a very problematic position."

So where is the confusion?
@rene you're right, solid wall of ignorance. I'm out of there.
8:05 AM
Wait, why did I miss a bunch of chat messages?
A grace note is a kind of music notation used to denote several kinds of musical ornaments, usually printed smaller to indicate that it is melodically and harmonically nonessential. When occurring by itself, a single grace note normally indicates the intention of either an appoggiatura or an acciaccatura. When they occur in groups, grace notes can be interpreted to indicate any of several different classes of ornamentation, depending on interpretation. Notation In notation a grace note is distinguished from a regular note by print size. A grace note is indicated by printing a note that...
@FinalContest Most clients have rate-limiting to avoid hitting that limit
3k 3 21 68
@ThiefMaster: I have been using irssi fwiw.
8:10 AM
@ShadowWizard left a final comment, I'm out of there as well...
@rene cheers, too bad we can't really educate those "programmers". And people don't understand why so many sites are being hacked.
@Cupcake it's the cover of a music album mmusicbox.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/lisa-crossing-field
@rene: lol, seems even a fluffier tag than qt. 5 answers after having a duplicate revealed. :p
probably something he love listening to
@ShadowWizard whaaaaat how did you find that, with google image search?
@FinalContest yeah, irssi does that
8:13 AM
@ShadowWizard Ok, I read the blog post and I get it now. Went to check the employee pictures page, and it appears he/she is not male or female, but a cactus who wears bling. stackexchange.com/about
@Cupcake yup, one (right) click away
> 10:12:57 [flood]
10:12:57 flood_max_msgs = 9999
10:12:57 flood_timecheck = 8
@FinalContest Yeah, you should glance over asp.net it could be the runner-up after php...
@ThiefMaster: I am yet to enter a floody situation where I would be dropped. :p
@VotetoClose you missed some of my messages above, I posted a Meta discussion about it
8:14 AM
is asp.net some web thingie?
@VotetoClose see this it was scraped from Meta
@FinalContest I would answer but you can't see so no point
@FinalContest yeah...
Stack Exchange has a lot of employees
2 mins ago, by Final Contest
is asp.net some web thingie?
@Cupcake and they're hiring a lot more stackexchange.com/work-here
8:16 AM
I can't tell is that's was trolling or not.
You sir, deserve more upvotes. — Levi Botelho 1 min ago
@rene: I see.... I think many languages have their own web framework...
Why yes. Yes I do.
@Cupcake: trying to manipulate us? :D
Is it working?
8:18 AM
@Cupcake don't think he's trolling.
Don't vote though.
No voting rings :P
I prefer wedding ring
@Cupcake: hey, but you still did not implement the features I have needed in git.
@ThiefMaster: and sometimes I accidentally pasted a long email, etc.
Oh my, look at the time, I have to go back and bake in the oven so I'm all fresh in the morning again, seeya!
8:25 AM
Good Night!
See you!
8:37 AM
This must be my lucky day: stackoverflow.com/questions/24548754/…
@rene Lucky day?
@ProgramFOX yes?
@rene I mean: why is it your lucky day?
I had a similar sql injection question earlier (just scroll back in the transscript)
Ah, I see.
8:44 AM
why this answer is bad one stackoverflow.com/review/first-posts/5209323 I passed audit just because i knew that it was one (because there were no question in queue and i clicked on original question) but if I didn't do i would click no action needed and would fail.
/me contemplates telling @rene that I'm currently writing horrible injection-prone queries myself
once i passed review i can see from the comment that it was copied from other answer but should we look at all of the answers? some question may have 60 answers
@Bart I'll use your smiting stick on your code base...
No worries @rene, there is plenty of facepalming and fist shaking going on. Refactoring and restructuring everything at the moment.
"Who the frick wrote this nonsense? Oh, that's right ... I did"
actually not necessary copied from other answer, just from twitter bootstrap css file
8:50 AM
@Templar well, it might not be obvious but I would say the comment is a give away.
@JanDvorak I would say so...
@rene but you can't see a comment while reviewing, you can see it ONLY after you passed it
and how these audits are picked? automatically? or human choose them?
9:09 AM
They are automatically chosen.
@Templar Ah, didn't realize that. I might have failed that audit as well. You could post on meta.so to see if others agree. I'm not sure though how you can remove audits from the first posts queue
just any successfully deleted question/answer?
I migth post it later, should i do it in meta se or so?
How does this post only pertain to a specific site? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/235015/…
Yes, it happened on SO. Yes, the OP could have asked it on MSO, but in the end it's so general I see no problem in it being on MSE
I agree...
9:24 AM
@Bart do you want it to be reopened?
The more old bug reports / feature requests I read on MSE that were answered/handled by Jeff, the more Jeff appears like a stubborn asshat to me
I was going to vote so @rene. Just wondered if I was overlooking something.
@Bart I voted for reopen
me too
9:41 AM
me too
And gone.
@VotetoClose busted!
user image
@ShadowWizard I started it, so I figured I might as well end it :)
@VotetoClose very noble of you ;)
Rename yourself to VetotoClose please
10:14 AM
@Bart maybe in 27 days
@VotetoClose you can do it now. I know a trick.
@ShadowWizard I imagine you hiding in dark alleys and whispering to people passing by "hey kid, pssst, wanna know a trick?"
@Stijn ugh, now you exposed my dark secret
but I show them only cool tricks!
And then they go missing ...
Soilent Green is people!!
10:30 AM
@Bart not missing, just with a different look and a different name.
@ShadowWizard @Bart did you save that to your chat note system for quick look up?
@VotetoClose it's burned into our collective memory, no need for any notes
11:30 AM
I feel like we're moving from a weekly SO has become elitist post to a daily one on MSO
@rene pong
ha works...
my UI is...well...non-exsistent...
As I'm on the train and async loading of css, by the time the css arrives at the location it was requested from the train is no longer there...
@rene done with work already for the day? Or travelling for work?
@Stijn Such an elitist statement. You've lost touch with the common man
You are the 1%
11:40 AM
@stijn on my way to Eindhoven for a meeting with customer/projectteam
@Stijn hey that was a mini WAG!
@ShadowWizard I fear WAG has a different meaning to me than it does to you
mine being the NSFW one
eh? (go searching)
you mean the magazine? Not really NSFW. Or is it? ;)
Anyway meant Word Association Game, @Stijn :)
@ShadowWizard aha :D I was thinking of Wives and Girlfriends
and what's NSFW in wives and girlfriends?
11:52 AM
depending on where you work I suppose
you know the section some lesser quality newspapers have with pictures of famous people's WAGs?
I just Googled it, top result is a beauty salon website
often with few clothes
@Stijn few is more than nothing... :D
I also wear only 3 items of clothes on me and it's just enough
Left sock, right sock, ...
and a hat
11:57 AM
ohhhh, now I see. Well then, not going to even imagine this at work. :P
at location...
@rene how's your CSS?
12:20 PM
I've never had ReSharper before this job.
It's pretty awesome.
And humbling.
> Hi! We noticed you just wrote some code. Would you like us to rewrite it in the following, less stupid way? Let us know! Love, ReSharper.
I've tried it once but often it was just fighting my coding style
@Stijn who won?
In what way, @Stijn?
@jadarnel27 one example I remember is that I like explicit == true
@ShadowWizard me, I swiftly uninstalled it
There were a couple of features I think that I did find useful but not enough for me to bother configuring the whole thing to my taste
@Stijn oh, one hit kill. Nice!
12:26 PM
@Stijn I see.
12:40 PM
To each his own. I do revert some of the style changes that it makes.
I'm okay with my lines of code being a little longer than what ReSharper likes.
1:36 PM
@ShadowWizard it works now...
but I'm on a decent wifi now...
1:55 PM
Ok, I have this dilemma: I need to quit the C++ lounge, but in order to quit that place I need a substitute place to stay. P.S. as much as I love here, I can not imagine staying here 24/7 <3
It's because of @ShadowWizard isn't it? I get you @chmod711telkitty
I see you are here 24/7, It's because of @ShadowWizard isn't it? I get you @Bart >_<
Absolutely. What we have a beautiful thing. Disturbing, but beautiful.
@Bart eh? me? Whaat? :D
@chmod711telkitty my Den is open for everyone... feel free to make it your home. I even got a dev dwelling there.
1:59 PM
So awesome - bart is having a beautiful, disturbing relationship with shadow which shadow doesn't know :p
Maybe he means with you, kitty? :D
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