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Q: What does Code Golf's progress look like right now?

12:52 AM

@AnnaLear Thanks so much! :-D

Wait, I don't see anything new on CG meta

I guess you're referring to the ones from a few days ago?

My message's intent was to say that those posts are wrong and we can graduate.

Anna Lear

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I'm Grace Note, a Community Manager at Stack Exchange. We have a process for how sites go about graduating or sticking around in Beta, but as noted in the comments there, Code Golf is one of two sites that we do not have periodic "Site Evaluations" where we compare questions against the rest of ...

Q: How is Code Review doing right now?

Yes, see the two most recent comments on that. (By me)

Anna Lear

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I’m Grace Note, a Community Manager at Stack Exchange. Normally for most sites we run a community site evaluation, as explained in this Meta Stack Overflow post under Public Beta sites. However, these reviews involve comparing our site content against searches on the internet for competing answer...

discussion faq beta-progress

1:06 AM

@Doorknob My two cents: why all this talk about graduation? It's really nothing special... mod elections, a design, swag... not much else.

Anna Lear

@hichris123 there's that, too

Shog9

@hichris123 don't forget Prestige

@Shog9 That too... but is it really worth it? The privs rep level changes... for a site like that, might make the quality worse (less closers & deleters).

@hichris Don't forget increased traffic, migration, and changed privileges tables

Gtg to eat

@Doorknob ... yeah but let's face it: would increased traffic and migrations really help P&CG? Seems like it might make the quality worse...

Shog9

1:19 AM

@hichris123 Is community growth worth it? Hey, I live in a shack up in the hills, with dogs to guard against neighbors getting too close. But some folks want big cities.

@Shog9 Hmm... but when should a community become a city? Really, it seems the tradeoff is less users available to moderate... so when does a community become ready to become a city?

Shog9

@hichris123 when the core community is strong enough to support a large, steady influx of new users, moderating as needed and adopting those willing into the core.

1:55 AM

@Shog9 Was there recently a change to VLQ flags? I'm pretty sure they're marked as helpful for me, even though they were edited (and thus should be disputed).

Jeroen Vannevel

What the f..

I pressed some button combination and my computer is now reading everything I do to me

Be careful, don't let it suck you in and make you fall in love with it.

user202362

why is a rotating dancer NSFW?

@JeroenVannevel I think microsoft is planning on that being the default functionality within 4 years :) Whether you like it or not!

Jeroen Vannevel

The last time I swooned over someone sensually pronouncing "Backspace" to me, is a long time ago

user202362

2:01 AM

Then swan lake is porn??

Jeroen Vannevel

Geezes, it even reads tooltips

I don't know how I activated that Screen Reader, but it is horrible

Did you deactivate it?

@hichris123 You can't just deactiviate it, screen reader lady is a stage five clinger.

I hope it's still on. HAMMERTIME! :P

I'm supposed to be doing some kind of work right now.

2:29 AM

Ahoy

I request opinions.

If you were looking to hire somebody to animate your logo for $5, would this catch your interest?

@GnomeSlice Ooh, I like it. So what exactly is it going to be used for?

@hichris123 basically this: fiverr.com/lilshock/…

I'm looking to start a fiverr page for animating logos.

That's the example video I was planning on putting on the page for people to see what my work is like.

Ah, okay. Me likes it! :D

woo

I think it would benefit from some music though.

Just a suggestion: maybe add some more stuff to it? Like really really cool stuff you can do?

2:34 AM

It's gonna be $5

But idk, you don't think it's cool already =[

Meh, that's true.

How's this sound for accompaniment: audiojungle.net/item/walking-piano/…

@GnomeSlice Nah, just was thinking you could do like the amazing stuff. :P

I definitely think it's plenty cool if all you're charging $5.

Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

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This question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

c++ c++-faq

2:36 AM

@hichris123 I'm still learning, this is pretty much the limit of my current ability.

^ Is there a granular lock on that?

@GnomeSlice Nice.

A wild Undo appears! A wild Doorknob appears!

Something like that too

Clean and simple is my preferred style.

@GnomeSlice Now I love that. :D

2:38 AM

Yeah, the fiverr logo is really basic though.

@GnomeSlice Very nice

Kind of hard to do cool stuff with it

@Undo It's a new type of lock.

@Undo Huh what? It's a wiki lock...

But it no show up on SR

2:39 AM

"This question's answer is a collaborative effort: if you see something that can be improved, just edit to improve it! No additional answers can be added here"

goes to look harder

A: This lock notice is partly misleading

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I've adjusted the wording slightly. This is something the SO mods and I are experimenting a bit with right now. There are a small handful of questions that are not exactly appropriate for Stack Overflow, are popular and have useful answers where the primary value arises from the community's reg...

fuck it, I'm done for tonight

Time to play some Loadout

Q: When should old "list of X" questions be kept as wikis?

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One of the newer features we have in our toolbelt is the ability to lock questions in a sort of wiki state, where no new answers can be added, but existing answers can be improved. You'll see its usage most recently here: Best C/C++ Network Library? This question has a few things that keep...

discussion community-wiki locked-questions list-questions

@Undo It's an experiment only on SO.

2:41 AM

Drat

oh well

SO gets all the cool shinys first.

It has its disadvantages.

Doesn't let users edit the question since the question itself is locked.

Huh

This is the most recent thing I did: behance.net/gallery/ConnecMate/14838887

still better than a straight-up lock.

@GnomeSlice I thought you were playing Loadout.

It functions pretty much the same as any other lock AFAIK, just a different message.

Only the historical lock affects the answers on the question.

2:43 AM

@Undo Right

@Undo If you really want, you can always lock the question, remove the post notice, then edit your own notice into the bottom of the question.

@animuson wait, we can have custom notices?

No, that's a hacky workaround. You'd be editing the post's body, not creating an actual post notice.

Ahhh

sometime I need to play around with the post notice thing and see if I can feed it a custom one.

Makes you pass a numeric value, so you can't just willy nilly add your own text. It has to be something pre-defined. But I don't know what all messages there are or if it will let you choose from anything.

2:59 AM

Are the numbers 1,2,3,4 etc. or are they crazy?

Well the current lock reasons are 20, 21, and 22

ah.

So they're sane numbers

must play with

1 = citation needed, 2 = current event, 3 = insufficient explanation

4 results in an error page

Looks like it's not very fun to play with.

You should try to send it "brown."

A: How to write a replace a word from a text file and replace it?

3:19 AM

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'Hello yourname, welcome to stackoverflow. You should choose a more friendly name'.replace('yourname', 'damn u') 'Hello damn u, welcome to stackoverflow. You should choose a more friendly name'

^ when I first saw this it set off every warning bell

TimWolla

@Undo Yeah, I like it though

4:03 AM

@timw I have to disagree with you on this one. It just doesn't feel like a respectful answer to me, although it solves the question (sort of).

IMHO, it just feels... wrong, to show the community that this is an OK standard.

4:21 AM

Dammit, url is such a useless tag

So stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4389901 got approved

@BlueIce I don't know if you saw, but when the question was posted, the asker's display name was "damn u."

Tim Stone

To be fair, it got approved by the OP, who probably didn't know better.

I'm not sure the person posting the answer meant anything negative by what he posted.

@jadarnel27 Oh. Gotcha.

Nevermind, then.

@jadarnel27 Actually, problem solved. Edited his code to match the new name of thank u, removed my downvote, and upvoted the answer.

@TimStone Fixed it ^

@BlueIce Good move!

4:37 AM

@jadarnel Thanks! I felt bad about it, and it seems like the answer now makes sense (to everyone).

OK, I'm going to bed. I'll see you all tomorrow!

Jason C

6:32 AM

At some point, while reading random threads in meta, I came across a link to some great article about the tendency of certain types of online communities to generate into noise. That's all I really remember about it, that and that the author of the article really liked twitter. Does anybody have any idea what I'm talking about?

At some point = like 2 weeks ago, and I forgot to bookmark it.

Helios

7:27 AM

@JasonC I think that is starting to occur here

Jason C

7:45 AM

@Helios In some ways cough*profilepageredesign*cough, but I'm actually just interested in finding the article because it's a great one to file away for reference in general.

s/generate/degenerate

I keep thinking @Shog9 posted it in a comment somewhere.

8:39 AM

morning

Helios

8:51 AM

@JasonC apologies, my misunderstood

9:02 AM

@SuhosinPony morning

9:12 AM

(SPAM) stackoverflow.com/questions/22554485/…

Gute morning

9:52 AM

@SuhosinPony Gute? Nope, not pony standard. You meant "Cute morning"?

Sweetie Belle episode tomorrow :D

still on s1.... one episode at time, don't want the fun to end too soon

btw, I am mistaken or s4 finally returned Derpy to the original version (aka how she should have been the whole time)?

10:17 AM

Derpy is back, and mute :(

Fandom still mad at Yamino :P

@SuhosinPony At last the eyes are the real ones now. Also... I don't know if I prefer the original voice or the edited one.

I prefer the original

I dont think Hasbro should pander to hypersensitive types

I think Yelling at Cats got it right (lyrics nsfw)

10:33 AM

@SuhosinPony ok, but wasn't it intended that her problem was more a sight one than a "I am clumsy" one?

Hmm, I think her problem was always like "I'm accident prone"

HamZa

Question: Should this question be closed as a dupe of this question ?

Like when she flew north to get the birds that migrated south for winter

I always assumed she keeps crashing on every obstacle around because she actually don't see well with her left eye and such. basically she is just using one eye all the time, and we know that you can't judge distances with only one eye.

That could make sense, could also explain the flying north as 'Couldn't judge direction'

But then it doesn't explain the jumping up and down on a stormcloud

10:47 AM

Attempt to replicate what Dash did in a previous episode? Did she notice that that was a --storm-- cloud?

(SPAM) bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/23802/…

11:21 AM

@SuhosinPony .............. youtube.com/watch?v=sMqz_vc22_g

@SPArchaeologist :D

11:35 AM

@SuhosinPony (still preferring the Gurren Lagan one)

@SPArchaeologist

►

Current listening

11:48 AM

@SuhosinPony I have a Flutterwonder -> Loyalty -> Fly Higher loop

Grace Note

12:08 PM

@Doorknob Web Apps graduated by time, not by measure.

@HamZa The basic idea is the same, so yes I consider them dupes and followed the close votes on that question

12:31 PM

@SPArchaeologist Clouds is one of my favorite songs

1:05 PM

Why does this get 2 upvotes? stackoverflow.com/questions/22558590/…

@BArt And why do all of his questions and answers have two upvotes?

That is a great question @BlueIce ...

Myeah, worth a flag.

And he's copying content left and right. Grrr

Worth a close vote as Too Broad as well @Bart?

I've left a comment and will wait a little while for a response @rene. But yeah.

Argh, and another copied one. That's 3 so far

michaelb958

1:21 PM

Copying left and right and centre?

Yep

Well, 4 comments left. 1 flag raised. Downvotes all around. My job here is done. Another great day for rain-on-your-parade man!

@SuhosinPony Currently I am stuck listening to "My Little SharePoint"

@SuhosinPony do you know it?

I never wondered what Moss could be / Until my clients shared its horror with me.....

1:37 PM

lol

michaelb958

I just do not feel like going through Bart's three thousand comments to figure out where "spoiler-of-fun man" originated. I'm going to sleep instead.

(SPAM) drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/107422/…

I flagged that ^^^^

all online Zalgo text generators have this phrase as default text

"To invoke the hive-mind representing chaos."

@rene good thing; do you mean, before I posted the link?

1:46 PM

The "15" folder in sharepoint is known as SharePoint hive

coincidence?

No... only after you posted the link here @JanDvorak

(SPAM) drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/107423/…

huh... this one has no link inside

No, but nuke the account anyway I would say...

indeed

Maybe leave a comment to point out that he forgot the link?

1:49 PM

Ha, software recs has an ad now? Cool.

@rene THIS

On SO @Bart?

Yep

That one is nice. I've seen other ones a couple of days ago

@Bart chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1884284#1884284

Ah cool. Glanced over that one apparently.