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SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
9:01 AM
hi
Baba still going?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
quite lively this morning
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
did he write other "we hack U" stuff?
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
9:48 AM
I was just about to post a bug report meta, but should I even bother if its just some graphical bug that I suspect its not reproducible..? pic related
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@OGHaza was it before you let it pass?
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@OGHaza well, it doesn't actually answer the question.
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
ha well in that case I don't understand the question :P
wait, the audit answer doesn't answer the question. or I didn't answer your question?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
the audit doesn't answer the question
It's a product placement with a feebly related text.
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
9:56 AM
I'm not disputing the audit, but when I load that URL I see no answer.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
I can see it clearly
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
if I load the link above I see "Answer not found"
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
I can't see it in chrome or safari :S
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
it's already been reported; it's a deleted answer and you're <10krep
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
ah fair, presumably then that happens for every LQP audit where the correct answer is 'recommend deletion'
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
9:57 AM
@JanDvorak Are you sure that tis missbehaviour doesn't happen even when reviewing?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@SPArchaeologist The answer does show during the review, and it appears undeleted
(until my script kicks in, that is)
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@JanDvorak good to know. Based on OGhaza report, I feared that he saw an empty space instead of the answer. While reviewing it.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
that would be very suspicious
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
Ah no, but then I wasn't able to read the answer after failing
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
do you want a screenshot? hold on...
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
10:03 AM
Nope, and nah that's cool, I did read the answer vaguely, should have hit skip instead of looks good. Many questions do genuinely request resources and it's my understanding that we're not meant to delete answers just because they don't entirely answer the question, so I'm fairly lenient in LQP if I think post might have been trying. But I accept that it was a product placement that I didn't read closely enough
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@OGHaza this one didn't ask for resources
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
It was in a field I have no expertise in, implementing a VPN for Android sounded like something that may have required an external resource. Should have skipped
I'm not disputing the audit in any way
Don't know why you removed that but I saw it first :P thanks
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@NullPoiиteя free off-topic flag. Thanks ^_^
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
@SPArchaeologist i think there is not any type of flag for question which is off-topic on stackexchange sites :D
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
10:16 AM
nice. After flagging as off topic, if I reopen the flag panel I get this:
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
:D
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
Why is the "it is a duplicate" flag option shown as used?
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
there was a meta post about that yesterday
 
Qantas 94 Heavy
Qantas 94 Heavy
lol
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
status-by-design
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
10:18 AM
lol
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
they're all classed as the same "type" of flag
2
Q: Clicking "flag" on a question that you already flagged as off-topic shows that you also flagged it as a duplicate

Aidan MuellerI flagged a question as off-topic because it was a "how to get started" question. After flagging the question, I then clicked flag again, and noticed that it had shown that I had not only flagged it as off-topic, but it also had shown that I flagged it as duplicate: I am wondering if this is a...

bug status-bydesign flags
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
do you guys checked so in Português ...variable names are too funny
 
Stijn
Stijn
@Pops the c++ chat room is currently named Lounge<Gay> with the description Big orgy on June 7th, don't miss the fun. It doesn't offend me, but I'm not sure if it's good to have this on the front page of chat when generally the community does not approve of profanity and the like.
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
lol .. may be they are
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@Stijn actually, I would say that someone could also count that as homophobia.
 
Stijn
Stijn
10:28 AM
@SPArchaeologist what I said, or the room name?
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: apple.stackexchange.com/questions/119271/… (mohini vashikaran mantra +91 9694850756)
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@Stijn the room name. Reporting it was the correct action.
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
holy good lololol
 
Bart
Bart
Myeah, that's taking things a bit too far imho. Even for chat.
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
yeeeeeeeeeehhhhh. Baba is back!
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
10:33 AM
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5976/… (vashikaran specialist shastri +91 9694850756)
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8189/… (love mantra specialist shastri +91 9694850756)
 
Sklivvz
Sklivvz
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/41388/… (+91 9694850756 love problem solution baba)
 
Bart
Bart
@Sklivvz tempted to flag
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: biology.stackexchange.com/questions/14726/… (+91 9694850756 vashikaran specialist babaji)
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@TimPost
@TimPost Are you online? Wanted to tell you one thing.
please ping me if you can
 
NullPoiиteя
NullPoiиteя
10:39 AM
@Sklivvz noooooooooooo
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@Sklivvz - I am currently searching for Tim.
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
← 3 messages moved from Let's get philosophical
@SPArchaeologist What's up?
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@TimPost as @Sklivvz noticed above, c++ lounge seems to have a strange name....
better to fix that. Someone may get offended
pardon. Said Sklivvz - it was @Stijn
he noticed that first
 
Sklivvz
Sklivvz
:-)
 
Bart
Bart
@Sklivvz Surely you can go in and nuke those 4 spam post above?
(and their accounts .... ;) )
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
10:51 AM
@LaszloPapp Still whining about it? You don't understand even after being explicitly explained why? Remember the time when your answer was completely wrong, unhelpful and put in a condescending and insulting tone? No? Well I do, and believe me, deleting and replacing some text is far from making up for you being a total ass. Seriously dude, get a life, and I mean it. You have completed 5000 tasks in 5 months, this can hardly spell anything good for you, and not just that, you are so obviously an overdoing over-trying wannabe, and whatever you are compensating about in here, it is not the way. — user2341104 13 mins ago
just ignore it, or it is not appropriate for SO?
 
Bart
Bart
Flag as rude/offensive
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
@Bart done
 
Duncan
Duncan
@LaszloPapp What a jerk, I've flagged as rude/offensive.
 
Qantas 94 Heavy
Qantas 94 Heavy
Yeah, that's definitely rude
 
Bart
Bart
I'd simply walk away from that whole situation @LaszloPapp.
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
10:59 AM
That was quite over the top.
 
Duncan
Duncan
The 16 comment back-and-forth was too much though. Either take that stuff to chat or, preferably, walk away from an unappreciated answer.
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
After the third / fourth volley you should automatically start thinking of your exit strategy, which quite often is as simple as just going to another question. If they keep irritating you in your inbox, flag.
 
Bart
Bart
I usually just call their mom @TimPost.
 
Qantas 94 Heavy
Qantas 94 Heavy
@Bart oh don't go calling my mom at this hour now?
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
Why would you call anyone's mother Tim Post? I ain't yo baby mama.
 
Bart
Bart
11:04 AM
... my mind wants to take this to levels of inappropriateness that are best avoided ...
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@Duncan: I do not think it is an unappreciated answer.
@Duncan: since it is about solving a generic issue about a new technology, I imagine this as appreciated by several future readers.
 
Bart
Bart
Great, then you've done your job. Just move on from there and ignore any grumpy old farts and their comments.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@Bart: I have not actually replied to that for this reason.
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
in the meantime, that lounge name is still there.
 
Bart
Bart
I know @LaszloPapp. Best decision.
 
Duncan
Duncan
11:07 AM
It has been deleted.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@Bart: I only asked him if everything is correct now, if we can perhaps separate in happiness that he got his solution he wanted, and I also could help someone, and I also learnt something new, but apparently not. :)
 
Bart
Bart
Ha, that station was already passed a number of exchanges before that last one.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
:-)
Anyway, I will upvote his question regardless.
 
Bart
Bart
11:22 AM
Now what's the point of posting an exact copied duplicate if you've bountied that dupe anyway?
 
Bart
Bart
11:34 AM
Comments like this annoy me terribly
it's better to ask in Unity Answers. — Shivan Raptor 7 hours ago
That's just saying "go away".
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@Bart: I feel the same about link-only answers.
 
rene
rene
Hmmm, I expected to be greated by the chat bot. Anyway: good afternoon
 
Duncan
Duncan
I hate smart-ass answers like this one:
0
A: How to determine what type of encoding/encryption has been used?

rossumIf you have the file legitimately, then ask the person who encrypted it what method she used and what the key is. If you do not have the file legitimately...

 
Bart
Bart
Hello rene
 
Duncan
Duncan
Hello rene
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
11:40 AM
Hello rene. :-)
 
rene
rene
We have multiple chat bots now.. :-)
 
Bart
Bart
Hello rene
 
rene
rene
And a broken one
 
Bart
Bart
Hello rene
 
Duncan
Duncan
kill -9 Bart
 
Qantas 94 Heavy
Qantas 94 Heavy
11:45 AM
@rene That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Duncan
Duncan
lol
 
rene
rene
!! verbose
 
Bart
Bart
Hello rene.
 
Qantas 94 Heavy
Qantas 94 Heavy
@rene That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
rene
rene
!!retrain
 
Qantas 94 Heavy
Qantas 94 Heavy
11:47 AM
@rene Registered; need 1 more to execute
 
hichris123
hichris123
@Duncan I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
 
Duncan
Duncan
Today I greeted one user: rene
@hichris123 Curse you, Hal.
 
Bart
Bart
use "@bart -smitingstick userid" to smite a user
 
rene
rene
@bart -smitingstick -1
 
Bart
Bart
Community has been smitten
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
11:49 AM
Hello rene
:)
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5977/… (where are the drawings for DE 202005010768 U1)
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
urgh.
Please, someone remove that question
 
rene
rene
Offensive...
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
yeah, it is weird it is a ham....
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: apple.stackexchange.com/questions/119278/… (all,love ,job problem solution baba ji+91 9694850756)
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/1572/… (LOVE PROBLEM SOLUTION BABA JI+91 9694850756)
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] Allcaps title: astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/1572/… (LOVE PROBLEM SOLUTION BABA JI+91 9694850756)
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
12:30 PM
the questions on astronomy are still there.
 
rene
rene
I already raised that flag, sorry.
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/41397/… (all ,job,love problem solution baba ji+91 9694850756)
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
@rene - no need to apologize, I was just using subliminal persuasion to get a mod to delete theme.
them. To delete them.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
 
rene
rene
That mathematica one is flagged as well
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
12:43 PM
not sure, why it did not get expanded, in line, but weird content:
...
 
rene
rene
@bart -smitingstick -3253101
 
Bart
Bart
Unknown userid. rene has been smitten
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
@jmac probably a good idea. I'll work on that
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
12:58 PM
is the reopen queue much later than the rest? It is surprising that other review queues like the late answer has top reviewers with higher scores.
 
Bart
Bart
Aug 8 '12 at 13:28, by jadarnel27
@Bart Didn't you have a different gravatar before? I keep getting confused and thinking you're Cody Gray.
 
SaUce
SaUce
can someone help me? my question is getting down-voted without comments in regards to why. Can someone look at it and tell me is wrong with it?
 
Bart
Bart
Aug 20 '12 at 17:13, by Purmou
@Bart your avatar reminds me too much of Cody Gray
Link @SaUce?
 
SaUce
SaUce
-3
Q: Is it possible to create custom view to display search results?

SaUceAfter reading http://meta.stackoverflow.com/help/searching help I have setup a custom search to find question that interest me. Here is example of my custom search url http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=%5BC%23%5Danswers%3A..0+created%3A2014 When I look over question I would like to be able to...

support search
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
@SaUce I see nothing wrong with it... (+1)
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
1:03 PM
@SaUce: I gave an upvote.
 
Bart
Bart
Don't really understand the downvotes there @SaUce
 
SaUce
SaUce
I am really confused on the reason my self so I was hoping someone could tell me
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
I have no idea. O_o
 
SaUce
SaUce
Could this be a case lets down vote @Sauce because he asked bad question before? I'm talking about this one meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/217008/…
 
Bart
Bart
Nah, don't think so.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
1:06 PM
@SaUce: partially, yes, I think so.
but mostly, no.
 
SaUce
SaUce
I did my best to ask it following all the guide lines and make sure to get it right on the first try without modifying it
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
I'm going to see if I can bin this Indian Psychic. This is getting old.
 
Bart
Bart
Yay!
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@SaUce: that is good.
 
SaUce
SaUce
thanks @LaszloPapp
so what is the best way to redeem myself after asking a bad question and ruining my reputation?
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
1:11 PM
Let's see if that slows him down. The problem with tripping on strings is that strings are so easy to change
@SaUce You'll need three goats, a duck and a hose.
 
Bart
Bart
He has been reasonably creative @TimPost, but so far not really creative enough it seems.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@sauce: just listen to people, and draw conclusions IMHO.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@TimPost a hose?
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
my conclusion was not to go to meta when possible. :)
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
@JanDvorak Yeah, don't worry about the nozzle though.
 
SaUce
SaUce
1:13 PM
I thought Meta was for that exact reason to get help to figure something out when you don't understand about how site works?
 
Bart
Bart
Yep @SaUce.
Whenever I see a SO in Portuguese question on the real-time page, I want to go in and vote to close it.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@Bart it should have a different icon
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@SaUce: yes, it is supposed to be a friendly place, not a downvoter for disagreements. At least IMHO, but it is not the practice. But I guess, some people get along with that, some do not.
 
Bart
Bart
Yeah @JanDvorak. It's confusing
 
SaUce
SaUce
so should try to ask someone in chat first before forever staining my reputation by posting a dumb question?
 
OGHaza
OGHaza
1:17 PM
@SaUce, I don't think you should worry too much about upvotes and downvotes as long as you think the question is worth asking and present it well
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@SaUce: yes, that is a good option, IMHO.
 
Bart
Bart
Nah @SaUce. Just don't worry too much about your meta reputation. It's pointless anyway. Do your research and see what happens. You'll be fine.
 
rene
rene
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@SaUce: there will be people helping here.
 
SaUce
SaUce
i thought most questions with down votes get ignored
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
1:18 PM
@SaUce: or try to disassociate your name from those questions. It is also possible.
 
Bart
Bart
Meta is low-traffic enough to still get a fair bit of attention @SaUce.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@SaUce: unfortunately, they are not ignored. Your future employer (or anyone else for that matter) may come across it, drawing wrong conclusions.
 
SaUce
SaUce
that is even worse.
@LaszloPapp what do you mean by "disassociate your name"?
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
yeah, that is one reason why I do not go there, or I disassociate myself.
 
Bart
Bart
wow, you people all live in doom and gloom worlds.
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
1:20 PM
@SaUce: as per copyrights/license, you can ask the team to remove your name from the question.
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
@Bart mostly @Laszlo, it seems :O
 
rene
rene
Don't get him started!
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@rene: do not worry, I will not get into throwing shit at others for different opinions even if some people like it.
 
SaUce
SaUce
so what were you discussing before I interrupted with my issue?
 
Laszlo Papp
Laszlo Papp
@SaUce: nothing that important, I think. :)
there were some spams mentioned AFAICT.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
1:25 PM
@Bart here's a start: $("<style>.realtime-pt-stackoverflow .realtime-site-icon {-webkit-transform: scaleX(-1)}").appendTo(document.head)
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
@JanDvorak lol, flipped icon :D
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
as a userstyle: 
@-moz-document url("http://stackexchange.com/questions?tab=realtime#") {
.realtime-pt-stackoverflow .realtime-site-icon {-webkit-transform: scaleX(-1)}
}
downside: doesn't work in my spam filter notifications
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
C++ lounge changed name. Good to see. You working, @TimPost?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
we have six more rotations, then I'll start rotating the hues.
(ok, ok, I could use 45 degrees or so)
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
1:45 PM
@SPArchaeologist Yeah, but I didn't do it - was pretty sure they'd come to their senses independently ;)
 
3ventic
3ventic
What was it called then?
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
Lounge<gay> with something about an orgy in the description.
C++ does weird s**t to people
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
what happens if someone flags a mod?
 
Bart
Bart
Flag gets declined. User gets suspended .... above a crocodile pit
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
2:08 PM
ggggggggggggggggeetting an espppppressso maaaachine mighhhhhht nott have been a vvv v vvvvvvvv vv ery gggooood idea.
 
gnat
gnat
looks like a spammer account attacking Programmers, would appreciate someone with power on content to take a look, especially at their deleted question: programmers.stackexchange.com/users/116782/agunbiade-ademola
 
Bart
Bart
Am I naive or is that just a guy wanting a chat, not really getting the concept of the site @gnat?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
VLQ at least
 
rene
rene
He has one other question on SO, about tomcat not starting.
doesn't look like a spammer...
 
Bart
Bart
Ah wow @TimPost even discovered the actual question in there. Give that man some more espressos.
 
user202362
2:14 PM
Someone asked me how did I always attract so many downvotes on meta
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
Did I mention that I got an espresso machine? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I? Did I?
9
 
user202362
why isn't it obvious that I am naturally talented in attract negative votes
 
Bart
Bart
@sudorm-rfTelkitty I would downvote that if I could.
 
user202362
good luck cleaning it
 
user202362
@Bart see? I don't even have to try
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
2:16 PM
It's got a cleaning mode, pretty easy to maintain.
 
Bart
Bart
What did you get @TimPost?
 
user202362
expresso machine
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
 
Bart
Bart
@sudorm-rfTelkitty thank you captain obvious
Ooh, nice @TimPost
 
user202362
I had one of those before - same brand, simpler (thus cheaper)
 
3ventic
3ventic
2:19 PM
@TimPost ಠ_ಠ
 
rene
rene
Try cappuccino for a while...
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
I'm really happy with it, they put a lot of thought into its design. Like, when you use the steam wand and finish, it automatically empties the remaining reservoir if you go to pull another shot so you don't scorch it.
 
user202362
cleaning mode is time consuming
 
user202362
good luck with keep your patience
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
Takes about 3 minutes or so.
 
user202362
2:21 PM
I broke mine in a years time, never bought another expresso machine again - plungers are just easier ...
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
I'd like to get a nice siphon pot next.
Vacuum coffee maker
A vacuum coffee maker brews coffee using two chambers where vapor pressure and vacuum produce coffee. This type of coffee maker is also known as vac pot, siphon or syphon coffee maker, and was invented by Loeff of Berlin in the 1830s. These devices have since been used for more than a century in many parts of the world. Design and composition of the vacuum coffee maker varies. The chamber material is borosilicate glass (pyrex), metal, or plastic, and the filter can be either a glass rod or a screen made of metal, cloth, paper, or nylon. The Napier Vacuum Machine, presented in 1840, was an...
 
Bart
Bart
All my coffee still comes out of an old Bialetti Moka Express.
 
user202362
This is what I have nowadays:
 
user202362
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
Percolator of some kind?
 
user202362
2:25 PM
it is a steel plunger - glass ones are easily broken
 
user202362
I had it for years
 
user202362
It is still working like a charm (I have coffee almost everyday with it)
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
Oddly enough, it's not the glass on my press that's problematic, it's the handle coming lose from the steel band around it.
 
Braiam
Braiam
 
user202362
Steel ones are better - they are probably 3x more pricey. But it will probably last at least 5 times as long for a careless person like me. So in the long run it's worth it. But it is up to someone's taste, there are people who prefer coffee from expresso machines ~shrug~.
 
Braiam
Braiam
2:32 PM
at least he's behaving now
 
gnat
gnat
@Bart their deleted question had phone number and looking-for-job and stuff like that. One minute I think I have a link to it...
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
@Braiam what the ... oh good grief. Is that the king of India?
 
gnat
gnat
> I develop Electronics commerce (E commerce B2B) i want to host it, I need A job no vacant in Africa? I leave here in Nigeria. +234...
 
Bart
Bart
@gnat myeah. I get the idea that he just really doesn't get the idea of Programmers. Not necessarily that he intends to spam
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
@sudorm-rfTelkitty I like just a nice press once in a while, I might get a steel one, I didn't know they had those.
 
gnat
gnat
2:38 PM
@Bart per my reading of wikipedia, unsolicited advertising = spam en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28electronic%29 (I don't insist it's spam, merely interested in a bit more deeper checking)
 
Braiam
Braiam
@TimPost it's one of the trolls, apparently not the indian ones... he knows how to write correctly in english D:
 
gnat
gnat
thanks, @Bart @TimPost
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
3:00 PM
Can I get a second opinion on reopening this question? It was put on hold before the OP added his code. I feel a bit biased, since I have gained rep from the question.
I voted to reopen it yesterday, so apparently the reopen queue disagreed with me.
(sorry for not talking about spam ;-) )
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
it's got two votes
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
Right. I think one person agreed with me, but the timing makes me think it got enough "leave closed" votes to kick it out of the queue.
Since stuff goes in and out of the queue pretty quickly, and my vote was yesterday.
I don't know how to find the specific review, though.
To validate my assumptions.
 
Duncan
Duncan
@jadarnel27 I would close that question if I saw it now. A code dump doesn't help understand what needs to be answered (IMO).
But I'm no expect, so I'll steer clear of it and let others decide if it should reopen.
Perhaps there is enough info there for someone who's attuned to the subject.
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
Thanks for your feedback, @Duncan =)
 
Bart
Bart
In the current state I still think "okay, that's what you have. Now why can't you get to what you want?" @jadarnel27.
 
Duncan
Duncan
3:05 PM
@Bart exactly
@jadarnel27 Since you've provided a decent answer, it won't get deleted. So it's a neutral move for you to want it reopened.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@jadarnel27 I would give another push to OP to complete his question
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
Right, @Bart. I see what you're saying. He didn't really show his...attempt to solve the new problem. But it was very clear to me what the OP wanted, and it was simple to show how to do it.
Ugh. Sorry, my chat skills on mobile are slow.
 
Bart
Bart
Yeah, and then you get into that nasty discussion again of "is answerable good enough" @jadarnel27.
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
Haha, right. Did you ever post your rant on Meta about that?
 
rene
rene
I already vtc that question (i was the first one) and I don't see relevant code towards the question asked @jadarnel27. I'm afraid no reopen from me.
 
Bart
Bart
3:08 PM
@jadarnel27 There is an ongoing draft on my notebook ... needs some care though to not come across as a rant.
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
@rene Thanks, man. I definitely appreciate that perspective (which appears to be shared by most of the folks in this room).
 
rene
rene
@jadarnel27 good answer though!
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
There are so many...worse question askers out there. This guy asked a simple question, responded to comments asking for his code. Formatted it properly, etc.
It seems like this user kind of...doing it right.
Heh, thanks @rene! I've been forced to work with those datasource controls far too often =P
@Braiam I'm not sure what that would accomplish (sorry I missed your message).
It just seems like a bad user experience. Maybe if someone left a comment to the tune of "in the future, you should show what your attempted solution was". Having his question like this seems...weird.
 
Duncan
Duncan
@jadarnel27 Are you able to improve the question a little, based on your experience?
I suppose if the only argument presented here is the "OP didn't try", then that's invalid anyway.
(At least according to the current Way We Are Supposed To Behave™).
Cue @Bart...
 
SpamHunter1337
SpamHunter1337
test
 
rene
rene
3:18 PM
Hello SpamHunter
self correcting bot
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
I could potentially made some aesthetic improvements, but they would be relatively minor @Duncan.
 
Duncan
Duncan
OK, @jadarnel27. Sounds like it's a valid question to those with the know-how.
I guess it'll get reopened if enough people feel similarly.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@rene how do we teach it?
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
True, @Duncan.
Perhaps I should post a specific-question question on Meta about it.
To see what a...well, only slightly broader audience thinks.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
:-D
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
3:24 PM
Oh, I didn't notice that all of the close votes came in after that edit.
 
Flyk
Flyk
this Stack Exchange application for Android just turns my phone into a vibrator
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@Flyk do you have a liquid-proof container?
 
Flyk
Flyk
no
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] Allcaps title: superuser.com/questions/709160/… (TEAMVIEWER KEYBOARD INPUT NOT WORKING)
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
3:47 PM
False positive, I suppose?
Doesn't really look like spam. Just a bad question.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@jadarnel27 happens
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
More than than that, it has happened =P
 
SPArchaeologist
SPArchaeologist
4:01 PM
@jadarnel27 @jadarnel27 - actually the detector is programmed to explicitly detect Allcaps titles, so it is working as intended. Such title are better edited.
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
@SPArch I don't have any problem with it - I hope I didn't come across that way. It just seems like a false positive, since the message posted says "spam detector," and the linked question is not spam.
I was just throwing out some feedback on the spam detection heuristic.
 
Bart
Bart
Feedback? You think we want feedback? Just flag all the things as spam and move on! ... oh, and brown.
 
rene
rene
4:20 PM
 
ThiefMaster
ThiefMaster
ugh... stackoverflow.com/questions/2700606/… - that crap even got upvotes
 
Bart
Bart
Good thing moderators know better than answering such .... ah ... ;)
 
Lance Roberts
Lance Roberts
It was obviously helpful to someone.
You shouldn't unilaterally delete those, let the community decide.
I thought Robert Harvey's answer was good for the OP and those who might come after.
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
4:43 PM
@Bart Brown indeed.
 
ThiefMaster
ThiefMaster
@LanceRoberts: IF something should be undeleted then it's this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/632571/…
 
Lance Roberts
Lance Roberts
Another bad deletion (this time by users):
 
Undo
Undo
wishes for 10k on SO
 
Lance Roberts
Lance Roberts
It's a fine though very basic definition question.
We shouldn't be deleting questions just because they're very basic.
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
5:17 PM
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8190/… (get love back+91-9829810409)
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@DoorknobofSnow heh... I got the notification before you posted this here
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8191/… (vashikaran specialist in uk+91-9829810409)
 
Undo
Undo
Spam wave!
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
:Grabbing a surfboard:
 
Undo
Undo
maybe not :P
 
Doorknob of Snow
Doorknob of Snow
5:30 PM
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] SPAM - Bad keyword: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8192/… (vashikaran specialist in uk usa+91-9829810409)
 
Undo
Undo
> CasT LovE MaRRiagE SpeciALisT
Heh, they're getting desperate :P
If these kinds of things are coming through, I'd like to see what gets blocked :P
 
Pops
Pops
I haven't seen it, but knowing (a tiny bit) about how the system works, I'd think it's the same stuff, just a huge volume of it.
 
Undo
Undo
What happens on the user end when something gets blocked? Does it silently fail?
Holy crap, this is a large-scale operation: google.com/…
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
5:51 PM
Wow.
 
Pops
Pops
That... is a good question.
I actually don't know.
 
jadarnel27
jadarnel27
What is the goal / agenda with something like this? Getting people to call that phone number?
 
Undo
Undo
I suppose :P
 
Pops
Pops
That's a phone number? Ohhh, that's why yelling it out repeatedly hasn't magically solved all of my problems!
 
Undo
Undo
rofl
 
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