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I hope we get in the place we liked. It's just a tad more than what I was hoping to pay, but still affordable with good budgeting & discipline. The extra space will be well worth it and the neighborhood seems nice an quiet.

@Shog9 The Seattle area. Across the sound, on the west side. Hopefully, I'll find something in Seattle propper for work.

Shog9

oh, beautiful area, good for you

i always enjoy Washington / Oregon - it's like a slightly more exotic version of the midwest

George Marian

Yeah, I like the area. Not so much the road surfaces. WTF? If there's no snow, you don't need chains!

Shog9

yeah, you should see the roads out here... Good in ski towns, horrible everywhere else

George Marian

lol where are you?

Shog9

2:36 AM

they don't even bother with storm drains in a lot of places - just big ditches across the roads (with deep gouges where previous vehicles have crossed too quickly and scraped)

@GeorgeMarian SE Colorado

George Marian

Ah, yes. I have a friend in Fort Collins and another friend was in Boulder for a while.

Shog9

heh, the college towns ;-)

George Marian

Yup. Boulder was pretty cool. I don't think I ever visited Fort Collins. But my friend that was in Boulder was there for his PHD.

Shog9

found the 2nd-best pizza in CO in Ft Collins

delicious crust - thick, yeasty, flavorful

Shog9

3:39 AM

aw, man... I just realized i had leftover tzatziki sauce i could have used on the sandwiches

George Marian

4:00 AM

@Shog9 tzatziki sauce?

Shog9

something like that

yoghurt with cucumber, lemon, garlic

pepper

something

good stuff ;-p

George Marian

interesting...

allrecipes.com//Recipe/tzatziki-sauce/Detail.aspx

Shog9

yeah, that's the stuff

George Marian

Ok, I can see how that would be tasty.

Shog9

made it up the other night for bbq chicken in pocket bread, had some left over

George Marian

4:04 AM

I always like to use up leftovers. Remembering them is the hard part.

Shog9

that's what casserole is for... ;-p

lol

greetings, folks.

Hello @Sathya.

Hi @George

4:10 AM

evning

Sathya

Evening @Shog9

George Marian

Someone please notify me, I want to test something.

Sathya

@GeorgeMarian test what ?

George Marian

ESC doesn't seem to clear the (*) from the title.

Do it again, please.

Sathya

@GeorgeMarian OK. trying again

George Marian

4:17 AM

Interesting, did they change the bouncing avatar?

Shog9

yeah - it is no more

George Marian

Thanks @Sathya

Shog9

you get a # next to your entryfield now

Sathya

Indeed. .get an iOS style notification counter on my avatar @Shog9 @GeorgeMarian

George Marian

@Shog9 Yah, I noticed that. I figured that was in addition. heh

Ok, apparently ESC doesn't clear it anymore? I guess that makes sense, as it is no longer necessary.

Michael Mrozek

4:22 AM

@GeorgeMarian That's debatable; I'd expect it to clear the number on your gravatar instead

George Marian

@MichaelMrozek Yah, but only because we expect that from the previous functionality. Not that I wouldn't like having ESC clear it.

An argument against it would be accidentally hitting ESC clearing it. But, how often down one hit ESC accidentally?

An argument of it is clearing the notification w/o cycling through notifications.

Sekhat

7:24 AM

Morning

Lasse V. Karlsen

Morning

Lance Roberts

morning

11:30 pm here

Sekhat

How are you this fine morning?

08:30 for me

Lance Roberts

Called into work to fix something, wishing I was still in bed.

Sekhat

Should of took your bed with you :p

We've got our first bit of fog since summer..

Lance Roberts

7:32 AM

Saw my first fall fog just this last week

Sekhat

Couple of hundred metres of visibility at best.

Oooo if i move quick i might get the early bus

Wahey

Lasse V. Karlsen

Anyone else updated to Chrome 6 and have problems?

Seems to be something broken around content retrieval, broken images, whole sites not working

Anyone else had any problems?

Sekhat

Not updated yet.

Lance Roberts

I gave on Chrome early on when it wouldn't stop working my harddrive. I'll try it again someday, but I'm in no hurry.

Sekhat

O_o not noticed that myself.

Lasse V. Karlsen

7:44 AM

If you update, make a copy of the software folder before you do, in case you want to revert

I'm contemplating finding the installation files for Chrome 5 and downgrading

balpha

@devinb I certainly was.

@badp it's mercurial, but still... :)

badp

@balpha Good point :)

I should've known, I don't think Git tries to use sequential numbering

Diago

@balpha Morning, Check the transcript a few hours back, we had a memorial for bouncy. @devinb did an eulogy and everything :)

balpha

oh, I saw it

that's my "I certainly was" above

Diago

Ah..... Right. Brain is not awake. I am going back to my corner now.

Lasse V. Karlsen

7:48 AM

sequentially numbered changesets has no meaning in mercurial or git

balpha

well, you can use them (in mercurial, anyway), but they're usually not identical on different clones of the same repo

hence it's always safer to use the hash

badp

Sure, except I didn't know what the hash for that revision was :)

balpha

b6e2f3082147

Lasse V. Karlsen

8:24 AM

Have any of you guys updated to Chrome 6 yet?

badp

I'm using Chrome 7

does it count?

Lasse V. Karlsen

ok, can you try this:
http://ejournal.gatsoft.no/scripts/customer.exe

Do you get a page? or an error?

badp

Asks for HTTP authentication

Lasse V. Karlsen

Ok, so you get a page

Ok, trying 7 it is then

I just get an error message

Works on IE8 and FireFox, but not Chrome 6

badp

9:03 AM

My trust in Win7, UAC, Ltd Accounts, Microsoft Security Essentials and Chrome 7 was crippled yesterday when Antispyware Doctor made it to my system thanks to weask.us

However, I'm looking at MSE's removal logs and EVERYTHING bad is in my user folder or user registry.

Which means that if shit is bad enough all I have to do is get myself a new user account, then nuke the old user account home folder from orbit.

And again own my computer.

Take that you motherfrowners! =)

Lasse V. Karlsen

Apparently the Chrome problem with our internal support system is related to authentication

Chrome apparently doesn't understand the basic authentication request from that site any more

I stuffed the username and password into the URL and it works again

badp

Nice, you can use bookmarks to login? With the password stored nicely in plaintext? :D

I sincerely hope your userbase doesn't find out

Does anybody have a WinCE emulator handy?

Lasse V. Karlsen

Not our system, it's internal-only

badp

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Q: Nethack for Windows Mobile

Hi all, I'm looking for a good version of Nethack to run on my Windows Mobile phone. I currently have Windows NetHack graphical version 3.4.3, and it kind of drives me a little nuts, moreso from a usability and playability standpoint. I don't know if this is because I'm trying to run it on a p...

Lasse V. Karlsen

The CRM system we use

And besides, it is hopelessly broken in so many ways that one more doesn't matter

They've probably done everything they can do wrong

badp

9:10 AM

Reminds me of the TDWTF interview

> Then they showed me two half pages of code in PHP. They told me to look at the code carefully and, if I wanted to change anything, write on the paper what I would change and why. They left me to it for about twenty minutes. I was certain that they had set me up with a TDWTF-style interview, where they'd pick out a fun code WTF (actually, it looked like this one ) and have me turn a convoluted two-page mess into a two lines of code.

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> When they came back, I complimented them on the clever examples of bad code and presented them with my rewrite. One of interviewers — the chattier of the two — didn't say another word; he was clearly upset, and I was half-concerned it might get physical. The other guy was a bit better, but he also wore a rather large frown on his face. "This is from our production code", was the reply.

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Lasse V. Karlsen

Yeah, I read that one today :)

badp

9:57 AM

Man, Youtube's WEBM codec is a performance hog

Too often I have to pause the video because the movie stutters and as a result video and sound desync

badp

10:43 AM

So this WinCE emulator is useless for this question

might as well see how it handles chat :D

Sekhat

@LasseVKarlsen I have no problem using chrome 6, I get an authentication box

Unless you've changed something since..

badp

here goes...

aww, it doesn't even try to run the javascript

Who woulda thunk, you can't chat with Windows CE.

Diago

Hmm... Seems like my new ISP is definitely worth the money.

Lasse V. Karlsen

I think it fails on my machine since it can match the authentication token with my domain account

badp

@Diago Always nice to hear.

Lasse V. Karlsen

10:48 AM

but then fails to handle the authentication response, or something

I can see from the debug log that it received an authentication token from the server, and then it fails

badp

@LasseVKarlsen I'm afraid that's computer-talk for "The system hates me!"

Lasse V. Karlsen

Oh, nothing new there, as I said, this CRM system is basically a poster-child for how not to do things

It's probably good for CRM-things, but we've pressed it into service as a bugtracker as well

So I've taken up maintaining all my tasks in parallel with FogBugz, just adding links back to the other system

badp

FogBugz: the perfect backup solution when your enterprise blogging solution just won't cut it as a bug tracker

Lasse V. Karlsen

yep

badp

(Somehow I don't think that's the kind of advertisement Joel would use :P)

Lasse V. Karlsen

10:51 AM

There's close to 15 fields I have to fill out in order to add a task, and if I don't fill them out correctly, the bug vanishes into the void

badp

on Fogbugz?

I've never used it so...

Lasse V. Karlsen

No, our internal system

fogbugz is lean and mean and smart

FogBugz just works, this other system, I don't know what it does, but "work" is not part of the description

badp

> It probably means your system is as usable as a volleyball made of razor blades (wilhelm scream), and almost as fun to use.

from youtube.com/watch?v=KiLGCO5yDzY

Peter

I'm getting sick of answering people's questions that don't even care anymore.

finish what u started damnit!

From now on I'll only answer questions for people with a rep > 500!

badp

11:31 AM

I don't have 500 rep :(

(on SU)

Diago

@badp For?

badp

39 mins ago, by Peter

From now on I'll only answer questions for people with a rep > 500!

Diago

Ah... I get it.

badp

11:52 AM

Woo, that brings the record to 5 self answers out of 7 on SU

(was 5/6)

Fosco

12:59 PM

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Q: Program LED with just USB port

I want to control LED with C# using only USB port. I don't want to attach any other device with USB. I just want to attach LED directly to USB port pins and program it (blink etc). How can i do that? I am new to hardware programming and it will be my first program.

hardware usb

Benjol

1:16 PM

MacGyver could do it :)

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