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Journeyman Geek

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Petəíŕd the Wizard

5:18 AM

@ShadowWizard ;)

Journeyman Geek

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Journeyman Geek

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SPArcheon

8:26 AM

@b_jonas don't worry, some pointed out that on the chat, you still have to use the old url in search... so at least the indexes weren't rebuild.

And also there is an odd bug that randomly cuts one letter from the image name, resulting in HTML that looks like this:

<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" href="https://i.sstatic.net/imageNameWithoutLastLetter.jpg">
   <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/imageName.jpg" class="user-image" alt="user image">
</a>

so the img embedding works, but if you click the picture you get a broken link

Anyway.

Stumbled on this old post today.

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Q: A Terms of Service update restricting companies that scrape your profile information without your permission

Update (April 19, 2016): This change is now live. You can view the updated Terms of Service here, or read about them below. tl;dr: We’re planning to make some changes to our Terms of Service to stop companies from scraping profile information from multiple websites and spamming users. The chan...

> Profile Content that is NOT available via the Stack Exchange API ("Personal Profile Content") cannot be used for any commercial purpose, individually or in aggregate, or be republished without the explicit consent of the author of such Personal Profile Content or the explicit consent of Stack Exchange.

> Additionally, no Profile Content, including API Profile Content, may be used in any way that implies a user is affiliated with, has signed up for, or is in any way associated with a third party without explicit permission from Stack Exchange or the user.

Any idea if the two paragraphs I quoted are still present anywhere in the current ToS and if not when they magically disappeared?

Journeyman Geek

the current TOS, a lot like other things of that ilk are... rather unwieldy

I feel like its not there from a quick look

SPArcheon

8:43 AM

I think it was silently dropped somewhere in 2018.

But the archives are messy.

this is the original text

Journeyman Geek

Invoke cunningham's law? :D

SPArcheon

> Profile Content
Profile Content is information about you (a Subscriber) that is contributed by you or inferred about you by your activity. Profile Content includes, but is not limited to, display names, reputation scores, avatars, your role and company, and other user generated content found on a Subscriber's profile such as "About Me" content.

Profile Content that is available via the Stack Exchange API ("API Profile Content") is perpetually and irrevocably licensed to Stack Exchange and its Subscribers under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license

@JourneymanGeek I could also go on meta and post something like "In light of the recent AI partnership when was the paragraph of the TOS that protected user profiles from scrapping silently dropped?"

Journeyman Geek

ehh

I mean, you could, but that's not constructive

SPArcheon

Clickbait works far better than "Somebody is wrong on the internet"

Journeyman Geek

Depends on your goals

and I'd almost argue its easier to dismiss clickbait/drama farming that a considered question

SPArcheon

8:48 AM

@JourneymanGeek I mean, pointing out that technically the current TOS no longer says "please don't abuse users profile data" when the network data is being used to train LLM is not totally useless in my view

Journeyman Geek

Its your question (well in potentia)

BUT if a company is using it via a partnershipm its via the stack exchange API

if they have access to it via that, they are, to the letter of that TOS, entirely in the clear

SPArcheon

Especially If you asked before "can you please tell us exactly what they are doing with what data" and you got...

Journeyman Geek

I mean, that in general is a different problem :D

SPArcheon

@JourneymanGeek "If you act sus don't get mad if we vent you into space", standard space base crew manual.

Journeyman Geek

I mean, if we could vent sus people into space, we'd solve a lot of problems but its the non sus people who are getting vented into space

SPArcheon

8:52 AM

> OpenAI was yeeted into space. OpenAI was the impostor.

Journeyman Geek

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b_jonas

9:34 AM

@SPArcheon You can search for URLs? I assumed all the SE searches were the annoying kind that omits all the link and image URLs from their search indexing.

SPArcheon

9:44 AM

@b_jonas this.

Q: To find old images in chat, you still have to search with the Imgur URL

I was recently looking for a graph I had posted to a private chat room several months ago. In order to find it, I went to search for messages posted by me containing i.sstatic.net in the room I knew I was in. However, that turned up no results. On a search for i.stack.imgur.com, however, suddenly...

bug chat search imgur-image-hosting

b_jonas

That's great! Can chat do it as well?

I mean the terrible chat search

Oh! that post is about chat only

Journeyman Geek

I suspect public Q&A gets a LOOOT more eyes on it

Andreas moved to Codidact

10:06 AM

CEO eyes?

Journeyman Geek

naw

(sauce comparably.com/companies/stack-overflow/reviews )

SPArcheon

@JourneymanGeek forgot number #4.

KEEP EXISTING EMPLOYEES

Journeyman Geek

10:27 AM

I didn't forget that :D

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@JourneymanGeek Collectives are part of the public sites. Well, a part of Stack Overflow. A tiny and useless part of Stack Overflow.

Journeyman Geek

But is it really?

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Is it really what?

Journeyman Geek

part of SO?

Andreas moved to Codidact

Part on SO.

Journeyman Geek

10:33 AM

No wait

I am confusing it with discussions

grabs the other pile of notes

Collectives only makes sense if public Q&A has enough value for people to sponsor a thing :D

Andreas moved to Codidact

The collective nutrition of all the fruit in my kitchen has a lot of value.

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SPArcheon

11:35 AM

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11:46 AM

@SPArcheon Never knew Dalija was a pony.

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Journeyman Geek

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Shadow Wizard

7:50 PM

If some known troll please at least add a note in MS, I did look for such this time.

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Journeyman Geek

9:43 PM

@ShadowWizard its the topic

We often have spammers for that, but in this case its just rotten luncheon meat

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