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Tim ManishEarth

12:39 AM

Cool. SE mods start with 100 rep

chemistry.stackexchange.com/users/108/…

@John YOU RANG????

animuson

Ahhh that brief period after beating a game when the trophies start going bing bing bing bing bing

Popular Demand

12:56 AM

@TimManishEarth What? The description says "Association Bonus." Are you sure that's a special mod thing, rather than just the normal "you have 200+ rep somewhere" feature? The real question is why he's at 100 rep and not 101.

Moshe

1:06 AM

I'm sick.

Rob Hruska

@John You rang?

@Tim So I ended up doing a "Copy To All Sites" from SO over to Meta, and it worked, but apparently I'm still getting @Tim notifications in my supercollider.

Moshe

"Beware the wrath of Tim." - Some religious text. Presumably named Tim.

John

1:51 AM

@TimManishEarth 101 is normal, for the association bonus. Even mods get that (check his accounts tab). :P He likely just downvoted something.

@TimManishEarth YES, I DID!!!!

@RobHruska But....you're not @Tim.

@RobHruska Oh. I see.

That's what I get for reading in order and responding as I read.

Tim ManishEarth

2:24 AM

@PopularDemand Yeah, that's what I meant. The 101. Looking at his profile, he's downvoted twice so I guess one of them is on an answer :/ (cc: @John )

@John Even when you change your username, the aura of @Tim stays with you. For quite a while.

animuson

Popular Demand should be "Tim by Popular Demand"

4

Is there a maximum amount of time a site can be in private beta?

I thought it was always 7 days.

Tim ManishEarth

3:15 AM

@animuson Chem was in 9

@PopularDemand I vote for this! chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/966607#966607

(if we get enough votes on this "petition", then he'll have to change his name!)

animuson

3:27 AM

1

Sriracha

Proposed Q&A site for fans of the red rooster sauce.

Currently in definition.

Tim ManishEarth

@animuson Probably proposed by some Matt Inman (The Oatmeal) fan :/

gnat aka special agent Mulder

4:10 AM

@TimSiteisaForum I see - thanks Jeremy

animuson

Did SE go out for a few minutes for anyone else?

Tim ManishEarth

@animuson Yep

Rebecca Chernoff

yeah

Tim ManishEarth

(or it could be my crappy net connection)

waffles

no idea what just happened, but I triggered it somehow

Tim ManishEarth

4:18 AM

wishes he had the power to blow up sites just like that

Rebecca Chernoff

with great power comes great responsibility (;

Tim ManishEarth

@RebeccaChernoff Oh, I'm 'sponsible d:

^Stupid symbol

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimManishEarth suuuuuuuuuuure (;

mootinator

animuson

^ He wins.

Tim ManishEarth

4:24 AM

@mootinator WHY SO BIG!! IT TORTURES ME MORE!!!

mootinator

It's an svg. You can download and make it INFINITELY BIG!!!

animuson

I wonder how close I am to the Sportsmanship badge. I could count, but that's far too much effort.

mootinator

Though it doubt it would affect you as much at an infinite scale.

Tim ManishEarth

/has to leave

Tim Stone

4:56 AM

What's this? We're breaking sites now?

Shog9

Just @waffles. He gets to have all the fun.

Tim Stone

Lucky son of a gun. kicks some dirt

waffles

@Shog9 odds are this mess was caused by Response.Flush

Shog9

Ahhhhhh... Australian flushing and the coriolis effect strikes again!

2

Lix

6:43 AM

Good morning to all who are east of GMT!
Good evening to all who are west of GMT!

animuson

Never eat soggy waffles :P

Lix

words of wisdom...

Tim ManishEarth

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/40784/…

3

Q: List of Stack Exchange 1.0 sites

Possible Duplicate: Is this a Stack Exchange website? Is there a list of Stack Exchange 1.0 sites available? The Wikipedia article for Stack Exchange links to question #4 on Meta, but it seems not to exist.

The latter points to the former as a dupe, but its deleted. FIX PLEASE!

animuson

Woohoo!

You realize the latter will likely just be deleted along with it? xP

Tim ManishEarth

@animuson That's OK as well.

animuson

6:55 AM

Wow, that's quite a lengthy list...

Tim ManishEarth

@animuson I WANNA SEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

animuson

Jeff probably deleted it because they no longer put the <meta name="generator" content="StackExchange 0.9 (20100222071553-3ea628eeebda)"> thing in the HTML... which was his answer (and was accepted).

Tim ManishEarth

@animuson /wonders what happens if we persuade a mod (preferably Tim) to ban Jeff

Tried self-teaching "If I Were a Rich Man" (Fiddler on the Roof) on a flute. Sort of managed (had to refer to sheet music once which led to my hatred of double-flats). Now, I'm whistling it like crazy and banging the desk. Very detrimental to my programming speed

Also, its noisy

Tim ManishEarth

7:27 AM

Wow, JS returns true when you delete true

Also, you can delete delete delete delete delete <xyz>

Popular Demand

11:23 AM

@TimManishEarth I have no clue what you're talking about. I don't see any downvotes. Perhaps it's because I'm not logged in?

Tim ManishEarth

@PopularDemand Summary tab, scroll down to votes section

You'll see a summary of the votes

Robert has 2 downvotes

Popular Demand

Huh. I know the Reputation section won't say which answer a user downvoted, but I did expect it to indicate a -1 for "this user downvoted something."

Tim ManishEarth

@PopularDemand Nope, it doesn't

otherwise people would use that to investigate and verify against the timestamp

The rep section on one's profile is confusing to everyone but oneself

Popular Demand

11:53 AM

Pops-Perturbing Pedantic Problem of the Day: people who edit/suggest edits to "fix grammer" (and do about as good a job as the edit summary would, ah, suggest).

Tim ManishEarth

@PopularDemand You mean Tim Pops

9 hours ago, by animuson

Popular Demand should be "Tim by Popular Demand"

Popular Demand

Thanks, @TimManishEarth.

Tim ManishEarth

Wait, what's that link?

Oh

Not a good question there, either :/

I need to tweak my script and remove the Stack Overflow part

[SO]

Maybe redirect them to the evil hyphen-site?

Popular Demand

Son of a... he rolled back my edit! (Actually he was probably editing while I was editing. But it was more fun to yell about it my way.)

Tim jadarnel27

12:24 PM

Hows' that one make you feel @TimManishEarth?

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tim jadarnel27

Yeah. I know. Makes me angry too.

Tim ManishEarth

Specially since I haven't read sheet music in a while

ANd I was using a different scale, I just was trying to grok the pattern of a particular set

got completely confused

@TimYiJiang Sign the petition! [star it]

Moshe

Morning folks.

Tim jadarnel27

@TimManishEarth Sounds frustrating. I'm so slow at reading sheet music, it's usually much faster for to "fake it" and play by ear.

Tim ManishEarth

12:30 PM

@Timjadarnel27 Me too :)

Moshe

Anyone here have an Apple.SE account?

Tim ManishEarth

@Moshe Evenin'

@Moshe Maybe

Yes

Moshe

Looking for upboats on this: meta.apple.stackexchange.com/questions/1314/…

Tim ManishEarth

(101 rep)

Tim jadarnel27

@TimManishEarth Usually close enough that no one can tell the difference =)

Tim ManishEarth

12:31 PM

@Moshe Congrats! :)

Moshe

I want to get a StackExchange sponsorship for WWDC.

Thanks. :-)

Tim jadarnel27

12:43 PM

Anyone else think it's weird that the tabs in user profiles on Apple.SE are floated left instead of right?

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Its Apple. They're wierd

Tim jadarnel27

Granted, but still...

As far as I've seen that's the only site like that.

.user-show-new #tabs {
float: left!important;
}

Apparently, it's intentional. Oh well.

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 !important!important!important

I wonder why its soooo important...

Any idea how to load jquery into a dynamically generated window and then load a script that uses it?

Tim jadarnel27

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A: Jon Skeet's broken the C# tag stats page formatting on SO!

I just fixed this ... will be deployed later today It was a surprisingly easy fix: UPDATE Users set Reputation = 0 where UserId = 22656 DELETE Votes where TargetUserId = 22656 Works like magic :)

Haha, oh that waffles guy.

Tim jadarnel27

1:07 PM

The music site is not looking good. 383 days in beta and 3.1 questions per day =/

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Do you want me to step in?

(I sort of asked truckloads of questions on chem.SE)

Tim jadarnel27

Haha, that's alright. Besides that, apparently our community is fairly flute-player weak.

Your two questions haven't gotten any answers yet =)

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Ahh. So then I'd be trading one metric for another?

Tim jadarnel27

Quite possibly.

I wonder if any sites that were in beta this long ever graduated?

Hmmm. Maybe my concept of "not looking good" needs to be tweaked. Or at least based on some kind of metric other than "my best guess". Looking at the stats of some of the recent graduates, I guess we are doing ok.

Oh, the comments...they're full of diamonds!

Tim ManishEarth

1:24 PM

@Timjadarnel27 $('"<span class="mod-flair" title="moderator">♦</span>"').appendTo(".comment-user:not(:has('span'))")

Do it on the formatting sandbox or sumthin

Any post with lots of comments

Tim jadarnel27

@TimManishEarth Haha, nicely done. Mods everywhere.

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Aaaand, a chat version: $('.username').addClass('moderator')

tombull89

is this new?

We detected an invalid domain linked in your post. This is likely caused due to sample code not being in a code block. (this message will be automatically removed when the link is fixed) — Community 8 hours ago

Tim ManishEarth

@tombull89 Yep, new

Tim Stone

58

A: Does Stack Exchange crawl websites?

Stack Exchange runs a bot that validates all the external links in our network of sites. This bot performs HEAD requests in a heavily throttled way. This bot was created to combat link rot in our network. Links are tested once every 3 months. If you notice any issues with this bot please emai...

(it's the comment part of that)

tombull89

1:31 PM

Oh, I see. the URL in the question is just to bleh, which the bot picked up on.

Tim Stone

Yeah, once this gets deployed to SO there's going to be serious backlog from all of the http://mysite.com, http://mydomain.com, etc, heh.

Tim ManishEarth

@TimStone Shouldn't Comminity keep a list of false positives?

Y'know, keep a meta post to report false positives and let waffles do the work

tombull89

@TimStone So mysite.com will get flagged, but example.org (as the site exists) will be okay?

Tim ManishEarth

@tombull89 Yep

tombull89

I suppose that would encourage people to use example.org, .com, etc.

Tim Stone

1:38 PM

@TimManishEarth Well, they aren't really false positives...those things shouldn't actually be links. The problem lies in the fact that the auto-linker has no idea what the poster's intent was, which isn't solvable without removing auto-linking.

(and of course that the poster didn't unlinkify it)

Tim jadarnel27

Yes third party developer, please send all of this credit card information to the browser in plain text. sighs

Tim ManishEarth

1:56 PM

@Timjadarnel27 Ahh, so @Tim can read it! All the @Tims!

tombull89

Do I want to know about the "TIM ALL THE THINGS"...thing?

Tim jadarnel27

@TimManishEarth Ah, then I should probably send them a thank you! What do you think would be appropriate?

Tim ManishEarth

@tombull89 No you don't but here you go anyway:

Tim!

May 9 at 15:17, 33 minutes total – 78 messages, 9 users, 31 stars

Bookmarked May 9 at 15:53 by Tim Yi Jiang

@Timjadarnel27 Your SSN, of course

Tim jadarnel27

May 9 at 15:23, by Rob Hruska

Tim ManishEarth

That should be @Tim ALL THE @Tims!!!

(Rob changed his username back. We @Tims mourn the loss of a respected member of the @Tim community)

Tim jadarnel27

2:01 PM

I'm going to punch Microsoft Excel for not participating in the Windows 7 Aero snap feature.

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 It doesn't?

Tim jadarnel27

I WANT TO DRAG YOU TO ANOTHER MONITOR YOU DAMNED, MAXIMIZED EXCEL WINDOW.

2

Tim ManishEarth

Whoa, it doesnt!

But Word does..

(both 2003)

Tim jadarnel27

Yeah. According to a quick Google search, it seems that problem is "not a priority".

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Threaten it with taskkill /IM excel.exe

Tim jadarnel27

2:02 PM

@TimManishEarth Office 2007 for me.

@TimManishEarth It didn't even blink.

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Wow. Then its a deeper issue

Tim Stone

Isn't 2007 trolls and doesn't let you do Aero peek either?

Tim jadarnel27

@TimStone Correct. And also, RAWR.

The little window pops up, but you can't see anything in it.

Tim Stone

Right

leaves

Tim ManishEarth

2:19 PM

@TimStone At least can it not break on about:blank links?

Tim ManishEarth

2:32 PM

Damn, I'm getting used to the up-arrow edit and the habit is now propagating to GTalk

mootinator

Heh.

Tim ManishEarth

@mootinator WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR USERNAME???

mootinator

I fixed it.

Tim ManishEarth

@mootinator RIP @Tim

mootinator

I just wasn't as cool as everyone else because I left the space out.

Tim jadarnel27

2:37 PM

@mootinator I think you misspelled "ruined"

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Tim ManishEarth

@mootinator So change it back! Tim mootinator!

mootinator

I'd have to change it globally to change it back now, I assume.

Tim ManishEarth

@mootinator Log in to any random SE site and do it

Popular Demand

Didn't someone determine last week that that workaround no longer works?

mootinator

@PopularDemand Worked just fine for reverting my name.

Tim ManishEarth

2:45 PM

@PopularDemand @TimRobHruska used it successfully

/me will be back in an hour

Tim jadarnel27

3:23 PM

Severely slacked off on SO this month so far.

Tim ManishEarth

@Timjadarnel27 Severely slacked off on Phy.SE

Hullo.

Howdy.

hullo

@TimManishEarth What?

Lix

3:39 PM

Business as usual I see :P

Tim jadarnel27

It's business, it's business time!

Moshe

@Lix My Birthright orientation is tonight.

Tim jadarnel27

That doesn't really make sense. Session variables are stored and retrieved at the server. The browsers have no awareness of them. PS: Your accept rate is low. — Steve Wellens 2 mins ago

^---Chumptastic.

Lix

@mos - ooo... what do they say at things like that?

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 What did his comment previously say?

Tim ManishEarth

3:50 PM

@TimStone It throws exceptions on [links like this one](about:blank)

(well, about blank works in full markdown, anyway--not chat)

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 Oh... "unacceptably"

Tim ManishEarth

Wow, people actually upvoted me in a protem nom :P

in The Periodic Table on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 32 mins ago, by Manishearth

Cool, got two upvotes on the pro tem nom. People, do you want to see this site in shambles? ;-)

Tim Stone

@Timjadarnel27 By the way, if you don't hear about two new Data Explorer features by the end of the week, start shaking your fist angrily and shouting "WHERE ARE MY FEATURES?"

Tim ManishEarth

@TimStone /me Signs up as well

It's @Tim e to yell at the @Tim !

Tim jadarnel27

@LynnCrumbling Yeah. Looking through that guys comment history is...not fun.

Kind of a dick.

Tim Stone

3:55 PM

@TimManishEarth That...shouldn't work...

Tim ManishEarth

@TimStone about:blank works in the normal SE editor

Tim jadarnel27

@TimStone You got it dude.

plans to ping TimStone once an hour, on the our starting Friday at 5:00pm

Tim Stone

If you do [text](http://about:blank) it "works", but that's just wrong anyway.

Tim ManishEarth

@TimStone I found one in the review section.

Tim jadarnel27

Hey. How come I cannot undo comment upvotes on SO?

Tim ManishEarth

3:57 PM

No, like [enter link description here][1]

[1]: `http:// about:blank`

that works

in markdown

(doesn't let you submit anymore, though)

Tim Stone

Right, and http://about:blank is nonsense.

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 I ran into something like that a few weeks ago, only instead of negative comments, it was more along the lines of being a little too critical with downvotes to answers.

Tim jadarnel27

@LynnCrumbling Interesting. You mean commenting about downvotes on their own answers? Or commenting on answers they had downvoted?

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 Maybe it's just me... but generally, if I'm answering question, I'll expect to be downvoted when my answer is just plain wrong.

@Timjadarnel27 Not if it wasn't necessarily helpful (but could have been)

Tim jadarnel27

@LynnCrumbling Definitely just you ;-)

Lynn Crumbling

4:09 PM

@Timjadarnel27 Not all, but some of this person's comments/downvoting history... stackoverflow.com/users/997939/kirsty-white

@Timjadarnel27 ha

mootinator

Uh-oh

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 Case in point: stackoverflow.com/questions/10164194/…

Tim ManishEarth

@TimS it surprisingly works.. Actually wmd automagically adds the http when you type it in the hyperlink box.

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 I've seen her get incredibly snarky to people who are trying to help her out.

@Timjadarnel27 btw, feeling better now that the week of ugliness is over with?

Tim jadarnel27

@LynnCrumbling That whole exchange is rather odd.

Lix

4:14 PM

Sometimes is frustrating when people offer very simplistic answers... The OP might see it as an insult and say "Who do you think I am?? I know that already!!" (in their mind :)

Lynn Crumbling

@Lix Here's her complaining about the long answer she -did- get: (2nd to last comment)

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Q: stackpanel triggers and storyboard

When setting my stackpanel triggers for my expander content I begin a story board animation but how can I use the story board animation the same way in reverse? <BeginStoryboard> <Storyboard> <DoubleAnimation From="0" To="1.2" Duration="0:0:0.45" Storyboard.TargetName="content" St...

wpf xaml layout storyboard expander

Tim jadarnel27

@LynnCrumbling Haha, yeah. Things have quieted down a bit now. I went to the UNC Chapel Hill graduation this weekend and the Mayor of New York City (who was speaking) bashed the amendment pretty hard (to huge applause from the student body).

Lix

@lyn - you can click the timestamp of the comment to onebox it directly - like this :

Thats like way to much? I only get one error and thats the easingdoublekeyframe not found? I am actually shocked.... — Kirsty White Apr 16 at 5:40

Tim jadarnel27

Then I had to keep telling me brother and father that I didn't want to hear them argue about it (they're on opposite sides, and I refuse to share my opinion with them haha).

Lix

Yep... sometimes people are just not pleased with your solution. Its a valid reaction to a suggestion from someone to expand your code a shed load... But in any case - it's rude not to at least hold those comments back... or alter to them to be slightly less... snarky...

"Wow!  That's much more code that I anticipated! Thank you, but do you think it would be possible to minimize your example down to bare minimum?  I'm looking to keep my code base as small as possible"

Lynn Crumbling

4:20 PM

@lix Sorry; just ranting. I'll move on to more positive topics :)

Lix

But no, you are 101% correct :) Its just rude :P

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 Yeah, It'll be interesting to watch NC's demographic over the next 30 years.

(much of the US's, for that matter.)

Except Oklahoma.

haha

(apologees in advance to any OK's out there.)

Tim jadarnel27

4:44 PM

I finally have more rep than Jon Skeet has bronze badges ^_^

Network-wide?

Just on SO.

Then get crackin'.

@timj - get your marshal badge from the clean-up effort...

Tim jadarnel27

@Lix Effort? Effort? No, that sounds awful.

=)

Lix

4:49 PM

Well... its gold... you wont get it from sitting on your ass all day ;)

Tim jadarnel27

Huh. That's how I got my other gold badges.

Lix

wait...

no...ugg... you know what I meant :P

Tim jadarnel27

Haha, right =) I should try and get that.

Popular Demand

I'm still not comfortable with flagging for the clean-up effort.

Mods are perfectly capable of clicking on the names of bad tags themselves.

I end up just casting close votes and hoping for the best.

Lix

@pop - I got drastically different results from different mods...

I did feel sometimes like I was annoying some one though :P I'd go through all of my flags in one sitting and have 40+ pending flags that each time - only 1 mod went through my whole list...

Popular Demand

5:02 PM

@pop yep this is a regression, not sure when that happened, but we urgently need to fix it. — Jeff Atwood 13 mins ago

Lix

sounds so dramatic out of context :P

Popular Demand

5:23 PM

No comment upvotes. I fear I was too subtle. Oh well... still worth it.

Tim jadarnel27

Ohhh, I see what you did there now.

That was subtle.

Lynn Crumbling

@PopularDemand laugh

Popular Demand

Bleh, now I feel bad. Explaining ruins the joke. Thanks for trying, guys.

Lynn Crumbling

ok, so I'll bite. what's with all of the Tim* ?

Tim jadarnel27

Hahaha

I'm going to go with "mental problems".

Tim!

May 9 at 15:17, 33 minutes total – 78 messages, 9 users, 31 stars

Bookmarked May 9 at 15:53 by Tim Yi Jiang

Lix

5:29 PM

The @tim tation was too great - they all caved...

Lynn Crumbling

hah

I love Tim's reference to 2001 at the end of that convo.

@Timjadarnel27 Thanks for the link :)

Buyer's remorse indeed. So you're all Tim for another 25 days?

Tim jadarnel27

There are actually workarounds for that. I believe you can just change your display name on a different SE site, then click the "Save and copy to all profiles" button.

Lynn Crumbling

5:44 PM

/me smacks oracle in the head.

@Timjadarnel27 Hah. Funny that works.

I hate IE's backspace navigation behavior.

Popular Demand

That workaround sucks for users who don't want/have the same profile on all sites (i.e. cool people with lots of friends).

What's wrong with it, @Lynn?

Lynn Crumbling

@PopularDemand it's nav'd me out of this forum twice in the last 2 hours.

Tim jadarnel27

@PopularDemand Did you mean "Weird people with positional identity issues"?

Lynn Crumbling

Seriously considering writing a bho that subclasses the winproc and swallows that WM_BACK message.

Popular Demand

Interesting, I don't think I've ever joined an SE chatroom using IE.

Tim jadarnel27

5:50 PM

@LynnCrumbling Yeah, I'm not a fan of that behavior either.

I switched to Chrome at work now (I don't know why it took me so long, I only use Chrome as home).

Popular Demand

Curses! You can't search for "site:attach-descriptor" in Google because it thinks you want to find some other search term on the site http://attach-descriptor!

My life is hard.

Tim jadarnel27

Sounds pretty rough =)

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 I really should just remove the IE icon from my start menu. I use firefox for nearly EVERYTHING else, including my asp.net debugging, so i'm not sure why I reach for IE when it comes to browsing.

Tim jadarnel27

@LynnCrumbling That was part of my problem. Also, IE9 implemented alot of the things that I really liked about Chrome, so I kept forgetting and just using IE.

Popular Demand

@Timjadarnel27 Obviously, it's a first world problem. But, that said, I am truly stumped about how to do this search.

Tim Stone

5:59 PM

What is site:attach-descriptor?

Tim jadarnel27

@PopularDemand I certainly wasn't invalidating the difficulty of the search. I have no idea how to search for that haha.

Popular Demand

Something to do with Maven. I'm trying to figure out why you would use a packaging type of pom.

You use <packaging>jar</packaging> to create JAR files and <packaging>war</packaging> to create WAR files, but <packaging>pom</packaging> doesn't generate POMs. I gather that it has something to do with indicating "this file is a parent POM," but the specifics elude me.

Anonymous

@Timjadarnel27 A recent change is that pushing a name change across the network will reset your name change timer across the network. Once must wait for a new site to launch without the timer set, to push a correction back out. :P

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Popular Demand

No response, @TimStone? I know I didn't technically ask a question, but you're putting your status as a magical guru with all the answers to everything at risk!

Tim Stone

Sorry, got distracted.

Popular Demand

6:07 PM

A likely excuse!

Lynn Crumbling

@PopularDemand: give this a whirl.

"site*attach-descriptor"

@PopularDemand It's close.

@PopularDemand Obviously, no colon...

Popular Demand

Actually I think this does it: maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-site-plugin/…

Your way returned that result.

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Well, Maven assumes that there will be a distributable that results from the specification in the POM. If the POM is defined for the purposes of inheritance, the only relevant artifact is the POM itself.

Lynn Crumbling

@PopularDemand That is annoying, though. I can't find any way to escape/disable the site search operator.

Popular Demand

To Web Apps SE!

@AnyMod, is it a pain to merge a one-time-use account created in Incognito Mode/InPrivate Browsing with a regular registered account?

Tim Stone

6:13 PM

site\:attach-descriptor also works, but that may just be because it ignores the colon.

Popular Demand

...Rebecca? Is that you?

Tim Stone

o:

Also, I'd just like to say thank you to the candidates for once again picking a good time for me.

> Depending on how ousted Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson is officially let go, he could owe the company $7 million on the way out the door.

Tim ManishEarth

@pop try symbolhound

Popular Demand

Oh, of course.

Popular Demand

6:28 PM

How was Awesome package from Careers 2.0 not immediately closed and deleted?

Tim Stone

People want to dream that they too can get free stuff.

Popular Demand

But it doesn't even ask how to get free stuff, or instruct others how to get free stuff. It's just a statement about one person who got free stuff that has no value to anyone. (The statement, not the stuff.)

Tim Stone

People's minds replace the entire post body with "Can I also have free stuff?" to which people mentally answer "I sure hope so!"

Anonymous

Did somebody say something about free stuff?

Anonymous

I'm not letting that get closed!

Anonymous

6:33 PM

It was funny to see Pop on the closing side vs. The Establishment. I usually expect to see it the other way around.

Tim Stone

Also, the Thank you Jeff Atwood! post wasn't a question either until it was edited to after-the-factually resemble one, and that got featured.

(note that I haven't disagreed with your point at all, but by rambling have temporarily diverted all attention from the fact that it's something we should by policy close)

Popular Demand

@TimStone I understand. I wasn't ranting at you.

Shog9

@PopularDemand Why do you hate love and happiness so much Pops?

Popular Demand

So many reasons. Including, but not limited to, the fact that I couldn't find the John McCarthy "You're Doing It Wrong" poster just now.

I guess it was under a question that's been deleted.

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Oh, I know, I was just playing the Voice of Meta for a moment or two.

Popular Demand

6:38 PM

@TimSiteisaForum Oh? I almost always agree with The Establishment. That guy is my MSO role model. (Well, one of them.) And even leaving him out of it for the moment, I feel like I close a lot of stuff.

Tim Stone

It makes me sad that I can only see a partial total of my close votes, due to all that's subsequently been deleted.

Anonymous

@PopularDemand I should have qualified that. What I meant was "when you're opposed, I expect you to be on the opening side". You certainly close posts in agreement far more often than that.

Tim Stone

How can I know how many dreams I've crushed if the full weight of my close-hammer is hidden from me? D:

Anonymous

It could be that I'm just imagining this based on my mental models of you two. :P

Popular Demand

You have reminded me that I didn't do my morning close trawl. Time to fix that.

Tim ManishEarth

6:45 PM

@timS yeah--atleast an unlinked entry like that in the rep page would be nice

Just today I went there to verify aomething about a question i'd CVd.. No luck :/

Tim jadarnel27

6:57 PM

@TimManishEarth You pinged two Tims with that. Slacker.

Tim ManishEarth

Yeah whoops

On a phone

@Tim. Happy?

Anonymous

200 imaginary rep to anybody who sends me a Chess.SE invite.

Anonymous

(I do not intended to contribute.)

Anna Lear

7:13 PM

@TimSiteisaForum You might as well just wait for the public beta.

Tim jadarnel27

@TimManishEarth -_-

Anonymous

My non-contribution aside, I am very hopeful for that site. I want there to be a site dedicated to a serious competitive game. StarCraft 2 and MtG could both probably be pretty serious if you had the right community, but we don't seem to and those won't get sites. Game of Go was apparently a failure, but I'm not familiar with that game so I couldn't really appreciate it (so I don't care as much).

Anonymous

Chess looks promising, and that's a game I could get into.

Anna Lear

@TimSiteisaForum there's room for some of those games (like MtG) on the existing Board & Card Games site, too.

Anonymous

7:30 PM

@AnnaLear Yeah, and that's fine for a lot of stuff, but I feel a lot more hopeful about getting some high-level strategy on a site that's dedicated to a particular game. Almost none of the StarCraft 2 questions on gaming are very interesting. (I'm not "high-level" at either StarCraft 2 or Chess, but I'm competent enough to appreciate high-level SC2 discussion.)

Anonymous

I should participate in MtG on B&CG, though. That's more my level.

Anna Lear

@TimSiteisaForum Well, if we get on the subject of discussion, then no SE site will ever be the right place for it by definition. :) That said, I agree with you about the level of SC2 questions on Gaming. I think there's room for more there, but the SC2 boat has probably sailed until the next installment comes out.

Popular Demand

Anyone know what this language is?

@Pop Du fingroj certe sufiĉas por tajpi code, thank you tre. Mi ne povas aŭdi vi well, la rilato devas esti bad. Mi pensas vi estas rompanta supren — Pekka 10 mins ago

(Sorry to those of you who were expecting and/or hoping for a programming language.)

Anna Lear

Google translate tells me that's esperanto.

Anonymous

Classy Pekka. :P

Popular Demand

7:37 PM

Google Translate said that? I used it too but I had it on "detect language" and didn't see a "you didn't know this was [language here], dummy?" field.

Oh, I see it now. The "From" field updates itself.

Tim jadarnel27

8:22 PM

"Phyllis McGillis" sounds like a made up name.

Tim jadarnel27

8:40 PM

and for the record I think virtually none of current questions on scifi.stackexchange.com make the Internet better by the definitions we use at Stack Exchange. To me browsing that page is like watching a car wreck in slow motion. — Jeff Atwood yesterday

That's pretty harsh right there >_>

Actually, that whole comment thread between Jeff and Gilles sort of makes me angry.

Dynamic

8:56 PM

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Q: Locked posts appear in review queues

I couldn't find a question of which this is an exact duplicate. So here it is. Suggesting people to review something they cannot act on is useless. Right? This is a harmless but annoying bug. Bugbusters?

bug review locked-questions

animuson

@Timjadarnel27 So true though.

Dynamic

Suprised that hasn't been answerd yed

Lynn Crumbling

@Timjadarnel27 Hahaha: It's like being burned and then thinking that the best way to avoid fires would be to avoid anything orange.

Tim jadarnel27

@animuson I'm on the fence about that.

@LynnCrumbling Haha. Nice =P

animuson

It is just a trivia site though. The answer has to be something that actually occurred (was said, done, whatever) in the movie, book, game, whatever, otherwise it's speculation and would be closed as not constructive.

Movies & TV is pretty much the same way.

Anonymous

9:01 PM

There are a lot of pretty-speculative questions on SF&F.

Anonymous

They don't limit themselves to questions that have clear answers from the text, there's a lot of questions that are mostly just intelligent speculation.

Anonymous

One can argue about how much that brings to The Internet/Stack Exchange, because there are a lot of geeks already talking about SF&F online, but I enjoy reading it.

Lynn Crumbling

'nite all.

animuson

11:39 PM

:o New temporary Gaming.SE theme

The QTUBU buttons have no hover state... dislike

Tim!

Tim!

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