Tavern on the Meta

1:34 AM

Spreading awareness about the evil of rchern:

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The other day, I was messing around in chat, and I came across this: Yes, it's the dreaded rchern smiley: Lobotomy (: This clearly indicates that rchern has some plans for us, and this public service announcement is to spread awareness of the evil lurking within us. I believe that this ...

Manishearth

7:44 AM

Whoa I'm topping the leagues(week,month,AND quarter) for MSO... Extremely sad, I have nothing to do but meta-discuss

OK, the real reason I'm on meta is that I'm bored, Physics.SE is too quiet, and everyone knows more than me everywhere else: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/127671/178438

:/

Tim Stone

12:03 PM

To be fair, week, month, and quarter are all currently the same thing. :P

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jadarnel27

12:20 PM

"I searched for a solution but all i could found is that i have to check for viewstate on each button which is impossible, cause that means there will be a lot of work." - That's a great reason not to fix a problem =)

jtbandes

12:38 PM

How is it recommended to draw attention to old Meta questions?

Apparently flagging is not the right way. My flag was declined saying I should edit, answer, add a bounty...— but what if none of these are really appropriate?

There's nothing I want to change about the question; I don't have much more to add; I don't want to spend much reputation on it. But I'd like to see it get a little new attention.

Manishearth

@TimStone now it makes muuuch more sense :P

Tim Stone

@jtbandes Hm, what's the question?

jtbandes

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Q: /me command for chat

I love the "action" command /me found elsewhere, and think it would be fun to have in the chat. A message like: /me loves the new chat system Would show up as: Josh loves the new chat system Rather than: Josh: loves the new chat system I'm trying to think how it would work with ...

feature-request chat

Manishearth

@jtbandes link to question please?

Tim Stone

(assuming you have a specific one in mind)

Ah

jtbandes

12:43 PM

Also, there have been occasions when I put forward a suggestion on meta, and it gets several upvotes for a couple days.... then it dies out and nothing else happens.

I mean I could edit it, but ideally the question was well-written to start with :)

Manishearth

@jtban you'll get your bump, gimme a min

jadarnel27

The note in the flag decline message really covers all the possibilities for what you can do @jtbandes.

Now, of course there are the social solutions. Like bringing it up in here, and hoping possibly that someone else will act on it =)

The Unhandled Exception

@jtbandes you rang?

jtbandes

/me did, indeed ;)

Attention from the original author doesn't really solve it though. Moderator or SE employee attention is ideal :)

The Unhandled Exception

They declined that request

It will likely never happen

You can install my userscript (now horribly out of date) or, better yet, install...

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Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

script chat

That's a fantastic userscript and includes (somewhat different) /me support:

likes that script

Tim Stone

12:55 PM

@TheUnhandledException (It's secretly horrible, but don't tell anyone)

Also, bonus points to you. ;)

jtbandes

Ooh, neat.

Did they officially decline it though? Because in that case it should be marked status-declined

Manishearth

@jtbandes Mixed blessing:I bumped your post by answering it, but my answer is somewhat against the idea. Somewhat.

The Unhandled Exception

@jtbandes No, just in chat. I can find a link if you really want

Manishearth

status-AAAAAAAAA

jtbandes

@Manishearth you are a god among men

(how'd you do that?)

Tim Stone

12:59 PM

@balpha Heh, I was just about to make a "..." comment about how the instructions clearly explained the proper way to put that blockquote, without it mentally connecting that the actual sample source was off. Thankfully you answered first :D

balpha

I blame the title. "Is it a bug in rendering of nested list in Markdown engine?" doesn't really point you towards the issue :)

Moshe

Passover is tonight.

jadarnel27

@jtbandes Check this out.

Moshe

Which means, among other things, that firstborn people fast today. Which is me. Ugh.

Tim Stone

True. And my reading comprehension fails early (for me) in the morning.

Moshe

1:02 PM

Unless we can find a group celebrating the completion of study of some portion of Torah.

jadarnel27

@Moshe My dad is on day 36 of a 40 day fast :o

Tim Stone

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A: Finding old answers that don't garner upvotes

commented: @lunboks Yep! Hm, that's a good point. There's a lot of new functionality that should recorded somewhere other than on random Meta posts...I'll make a note (and anyone who wants to help should feel free)!

Moshe

There usually are such celebrations arranged specifically for people who fast, but I fear I may have missed then. Checking out one last place.

Tim Stone

If anyone's inclined to figure out what all hasn't been properly documented. :P

And now I should go to work, before I blissfully forget I have to.

Manishearth

@jtbandes what jadarnel27 said. If you want to use the red for indicating tags in posts, though, use [meta-tag:status-declined]. That will correctly link and format the tag. Eg: bug-->bug, status-declined-->status-declined .. But this will only red-ify the already read meta tags.

Looks like you know that though--man, the formatting on the mobile version is different :/

jtbandes

1:06 PM

And while we're at it:

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Q: Instant approval of revisions for users with edit privileges

It's not consistent to leave an edit pending for approval (thus not making available for everyone else and locking its state) after a user who has those privileges have given his endorsement. You could say why don't I improve the edit, but that makes no sense for something that is correct and i...

feature-request suggested-edits revisions

Moshe

@jadarnel looks like I found one.

The Unhandled Exception

@Moshe happy Pesach!

jadarnel27

@Moshe Cool =)

Manishearth

@balpha How appropriate is flagging a post for diamond attention if you want a [status-foobar] tag placed?

status-foobar

Ah

Mainly status-bydesign

balpha

1:22 PM

if it's obvious that the tag should be there, go ahead. If you think it should be there, but not everybody may agree... maybe not. Depends I guess.

Manishearth

Yeah, I only do it when its obvious

There are tons of obvious bydesign cases

Once I answer them, I wait a bit for community response. Then I flag it--if nobodys tagged it yet

Done this a few times, but I'm not sure how annoying it is to the mods ;)

balpha

well, to comment on a specific flag of yours I'm seeing, there is no "status-resolved" tag (it's called "status-completed"), and that post was clearly "norepro"

I'll give you a "helpful" anyway :)

another one you have flagged to be tagged "bydesign" is a discussion post

Manishearth

Which one?

One(s)

balpha

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Q: Why is there a Precognitive badge on Area 51?

What's the point of having a Precognitive badge on Area 51 itself, since no one could have earned it? It's on Stack Overflow to make people aware of Area 51, as mentioned here, but this reason wouldn't apply if you're already on Area 51.

discussion area51 badges

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Q: Why are titles showing up as boxes?

The titles of some of the question I view are showing up as just boxes I'm running Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 3 and Google Chrome (18.0.1025.142 m). Let me know if you need more information. Update 2 - So something in Chrome appears to have died. I restarted chrome an...

bug status-norepro title

Manishearth

@balpha well, it got fixed if you check the comments so I decided to flag it as resolved

Yeah, I got the tag mixed up..

Alright, the bydesign is only for [bug]. I'll keep that in mind, thanks :)

balpha

1:32 PM

@Manishearth Nothing got fixed on our side. If the user's OS is broken, that's not a bug on the site. The boundaries aren't clear-cut there, but "status-completed" should usually mean that we fixed something

Manishearth

OK, I see.. So:
Bydesign--for bug
Completed--for bug (fixed by SE)
Norepro--ungrokable bug and/or fixed by user
Completed/declined--for feature-request

balpha

I'd rather have the logic be "post -> tag that makes sense for the post" instead of making it a checklist

Manishearth

And stuff to flag for tagging:
Obvious bydesign in bugreports
Norepro if comments indicate that lots of people have tried

Oh, I wasn't making a checklist-- Just matching what is applicable where ;)

jadarnel27

I think it's a little bit odd that list-style-type is set to "none" in the about me box on network profiles, but not on any of the actual SE site profiles.

Manishearth

For me, the tags make sense in a different manner :P but that's [status:completed] now ;-)

jadarnel27

1:38 PM

complains in the presence of SE employees to avoid making an excessively pedantic "bug" report on Meta

Moshe

@TheUnhandled You too!

Bugination!

Manishearth

@balpha thanks for the advice/clarification!

cdeszaq

thinks @jadarnel27's bug-complaint was well played

Manishearth

Seconds that

balpha

is glad he can ignore a bug report because it was never posted as one

jadarnel27

1:42 PM

Hahahahaha

Sathya

evening

Manishearth

Hit repcap again! [Free waffles!]{meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/128351/…)

Can't easily edit on mobile. I meant to say, Free waffles!

jadarnel27

@cdeszaq =)

Manishearth

2:03 PM

@balpha this is going to become a bug report tomorrow(possibly today) once I can upload screenshots and draw FHCs(can't on mobile), but you may want a headstart:

Bug: on mobile, the supercolider breaks HTML entities

Which means that if the preview string's last character is a part of &abcd;, it shows the first half of the entity &ab;

Strangely, this cropped up for an apostrophe--nobody uses HTML entities for THAT.. (unless thr system does)

No need to look at it now though, the bug report shall be filed tomorrow ;-) .And then you'll have yo look at it :D

jadarnel27

2:27 PM

I'm hesitant to call the list-style thing I pointed out a bug, because it's really just inconsistent. Kinda like this little guy. Which is why I tagged it with [discussion] and [bug]. But, meh.

And I keep thinking "Is inconsistency really a bug?" I guess sometimes it is (especially when it comes to functionality). But with stylesheets, I'm less certain.

In case you all were wondering, I occasionally over-think things.

jadarnel27

2:48 PM

@Manishearth You couldn't have left all of those as one comment? =)

Manishearth

@jadarnel I made each comment one browser at a time

So nope :P

OK, maybe I could've, but no fun in doing that, is there

Anyway, I think I'll dive into the CSS in a few minutes-i'm bored

I'd say its status-bydesign..

Nick Craver said something about the mobile site being limited

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 I complained about the double-encoding of something in a tooltip that probably 50 people have ever actually looked at. Have no fear. :P

Manishearth

@Tim double-encoding? What, they escaped the escapes?

I once had to use `\\\` in JS--that was wierd

jadarnel27

@TimStone Oh wow. Fair enough, I suppose mine is fair game then haha.

Manishearth

`\\\` FOUR backslashes

Aah evil chat

`\\\\` FIVE

Wtf?

` ONE; \` TWO

Tim Stone

2:59 PM

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Q: You got your double-encoded space in my tooltip

It seems that the process used to generate the title attributes for the image links on the Stack Exchange store encodes an already-encoded string, leading to situations like this: where the title attribute looks like the following: title="Stack Exchange Pens — &nbsp;Got some serious w...

bug status-completed html shop encoding

Manishearth

Oh, I escaped the codeblock meh.

Awesome bug :p

jadarnel27

@TimStone Everything about that post is awesome. Especially @Pop's and Pekka's comments.

Tim Stone

:D

Manishearth

And Jeff's note about the bug rating :P

jadarnel27

Yes, that as well!

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