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@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 This is the closest to urinal: 🚹

@Rob closest only if one using their head, not only eyes, need to figure "men's room" --> "yeah it probably contains urinals". Closest using only eyes might be 🧍‍♂️.

@JNat Cross site spammer to start your day... ;)

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@Snow Urgh. Feels like that'd backfire, TBH.

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 or using head wrong, robot 🤖 (there's no full body robot).

@Mithical People are pretty Meh about it all.

@Snow meh

;)

@Rob but robots don't use urinals, or at least don't have to use such facilities.

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Beep

Some Japanese toilets actually are robots.

@Snow I know some of them are pretty automated, but robots?

Don't you want AI detecting where your... wassname is, and spraying a spray of water at just the right tempterature and pressure exactly where its needed? :D

I'd call that automated though, not really a robot :P

Somehow, the idea of 'robot' is a bit more... I dunno, I just can't imagine calling any kind of automated toilet a 'robot' :P

@Tinkeringbell A robolet ;)

@Tinkeringbell agree, robot, for me is something with the shape of living creature (can be human, dog, cat, etc.) which mimic that living creature in a way. There can be a toilet robot that, for example, wipes your butt, this would be helpful (and can be actually helpful for disabled people), but that doesn't make the toilets as whole a robot. :D

@Rob oh, but most robots don't leak.

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 uhh.... a lot of robots are not humanoid

like industrial ones

though you don't want a kuka washing your butt....

@JourneymanGeek still, they got a shape of a living thing, e.g. think I saw combat robot shaped as a spider.

Okay that's just bad XD

that vaguely looks like a knight :D

A white knight :P

(also I am SO getting a bidet, fancy or otherwise in the new place)

Found it!

@Snow So one moment you're sitting there, and the next it transforms? :P No thanks!

@Tinkeringbell I also don't want a sword anywhere near my rear end.

@JourneymanGeek why?? If you want water on your butt just hop into the shower... problem solved. :P

@JourneymanGeek Maybe it's just as sharp as a butter knife, good for scraping away the last bits XD

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 uhhh

Few points of reference...

we wash. not use TP after doing doodoo...

there's almost certainly a TSE question about it

@JourneymanGeek more than one. ;)

Still, using the shower head instead of the hand would be better anyway. :D

@JourneymanGeek TSE? Toilets.stackexchange.com?

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 a bidet is hands free

Ugh, now thanks to this conversation I have questions that I can't google on the work laptop!

@Luuklag Travel.SE duh

@Luuklag there's this old meme on travel that goes "we're all adults here"

@Tinkeringbell just don't go to the Image search and you should be safe. ;)

Or, ask me! :P

Nah, I'll be the adult here :P

@JourneymanGeek yeah, same as the "use wet wipes" on LH

@Tinkeringbell :(

@JourneymanGeek only automated, the few I used over the years were all manual, had to aim the water myself, always ended up wetting the floor in the process. (Luckily not my pants lol)

So I don't have a good experience with this.

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 the slightly fancy ones in our airport kinda have a 2 position lever...

works pretty well

I'll keep that in mind and go check it when coming to visit. :D

I bet poor @g3r has no idea what's going on.... :D

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 It's okay, it's knowledge I can live without ;)

!!/coffee g3r for having to see all of this

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 brews a cup of Ristretto for @g3r

@Tinkeringbell not for long! The need to know will gnaw at you, slowly. :P

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 I mean... I'm very used to not knowing what's going on and survive despite that

@g3rv4 great skill! :D

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 ;) I bet it won't, I'll be busy enough the coming weeks to not even have time to think about it :P

(Getting the key to my apartment tomorrow, after that it's all sorts of chores and moving things)

My kids sleep inside a Sukkah this week, it's just excuse for them to sleep outside and make lots of noise before going to sleep. lol

I'm now imagining us doing something like that, and the reaction from the neighbors... (they're assholes, they feel entitled to make lots of noise as early as 7AM when the kids go to school, but we're supposed to be entirely quiet after 11PM :/)

@Tinkeringbell oh, congrats!

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Not sure if it means congrats or condolences yet for now XD

There's a lot that needs to be done and my parents seem to want to meddle in all of that a lot.

But once I actually live there, then it should all be good.

@Tinkeringbell yeah, that's tough having such neighbors... :/

@Tinkeringbell lol, worst case, go a step back. Surely parents will save your spot. For a while. :P

@JourneymanGeek ah, yeah, Travel.SE, where many kinds of toilet questions were asked.

?

What's a step back and what spot needs saving?

@Tinkeringbell oh, mean getting back to living with your parents. Kind of last resort, if things will really go wrong, but guess it's one of those "cross the bridge once we get there" cases.

Oh, but I already live with my parents XD

And I'm not moving out until all the chores are finished XD

@Tinkeringbell ohh, well, talking about the time after you actually move. ;)

Well, I'm not going back, ever ;) I know that much :D

Hehe :D

@Tinkeringbell well your much luckier then my colleague

the one I had the party yesterday

they bought a house that was occupied previously by an animal horder

that had no litterboxes for their 30+ cats in the house...

Oof. That was probably an 'affordable' house, but one that needed a lot of cleaning :(

@Tinkeringbell yup.

They are late 20's, and bought an 800K house

Their inlaws chipped in for more then half of it I think

but if that's all cleaned up and done right, I guess it could easily double in value

O.o I know prices are crazy, but an 800k house is still a pretty big one, iirc.

yeah, its a 2ha plot, with a big house on it, and an attached vacation house. some horse stables etc. etc.

but everything stinks of caturine

@Luuklag Still :P Pitch a tent on the plot, open all doors and windows, and start cleaning XD I'd settle for it too I guess.

@Tinkeringbell Yeah they've been basically doing that. At least for the kitchen and the bathroom.

Other then that they've been doing the yard. To be able to house horses for some extra cash

And anything that could save them money in the long run, like fire-proofing their reed covered roof, insulating their walls etc

I would love to tackle such a challenge myself as well, but not when I need to have 3 young kids around xD

@Luuklag Yeah, makes sense. I think my only problem would be that I don't like doing repairs etc. myself, so I'd end up hiring and paying people to do everything for me.

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, your going to need to work a second job then ;)

Never XD

Okay, that one was too quick. I might consider it, if it were a really well-paying, good fun job. Then I'd probably end up working less here, and doing the other one too.

@Tinkeringbell There is this whole new movement of people working 2 remote jobs simultainiously

doing bare minimum on both

:/

Well, everyone needs a hobby, and for some that is 'de boel belazeren' :|

@Tinkeringbell It's all about perspective ;)

Not going to change mine in this case ;)

@Luuklag If you think about it - ehhh depending on the job it might make sense

lots of people moonlight

and I'd totally consider it but I'd need to find at least one remote job first :D

Yeah as long as most meetings are schedulled at different days

@RyanM thanks. The script checks half a dozen substitution possibilities, but these seem to be yet another ones ... I'll have a good look once I'm home.

Realization of the day:

Something went wrong with the potion.

@Tinkeringbell are you going to drink it?

@Tinkeringbell Embracing your fairy nature at least I see...

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 gone

@SPArcheon Wait.. Yzma was a fairy?!

Still too green.

@Tinkeringbell Sock color.

@SPArcheon Well that's the only thing it's good for

also kinda good for replacing users avatars via GreaseMonkey...

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@Feeds GitHub launches oneboxes on Stack Overflow

How is a collective, a new way to discover and share knowledge.. if it's nothing more than a filtered question list that we already had access to?

it's just a sponsored tag.

Knowing how grumpy SO can be, 'sponsored tag' just won't sell as well, won't create that fuzzy community sense that the word 'collective' now no longer does either.

i mean

we've had sponsored tags forever

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Did they came with topic experts (or whatever they're called, I'm a bit distracted at the moment too)

They are paid ads, more or less. but... I don't see collectives as being any more than that. They aren't bringing active people to the fold, the people answering questions in that area are the same people who were before.

It does add a little bit of flare, for users who participate in those tags

but i mean... i just interpret that as yet another ad

Hello. Hope you are all doing well this first week of fall/spring depending on your hemisphere. :)

@KevinB Hmm. Doesn't seem to be quite working out as advertised then ;)

@Rosie You too :)

it's a brand awareness campaign, effectively

@Rosie Doing very tired. *yawns*

doesn't really matter how much the message gets twisted/squeezed to look like some kind of community building effort if it only gets done for paying customers

@KevinB Yeah, if none of the other benefits (like endorsed answers) provide any benefit, it's not a great thing :|

i don't know if it's really possible to evaluate the benefit of endorsed answers, at least not in a way that rules out other sources of the post receiving more interactions. It's been out for 2 months, and we've introduced the pinned answer change since then

Yeah, good point... at some point all these changes may be too many to be properly evaluated!

It's like they can never get it right... first there isn't enough change... now there might be too much :P

i mean, it's still back to the whole... who decides what is the endorsed answer, and are they someone that the community trusts. Are they endorsing the answers that need it? or... just the one that are popular anyway, how can one person (or even 3-5) handle the tens of thousands of questions in that topic?

Yeah, it doesn't really scale.... same thoughts I have had about tagging answers with versions :|

there's 261.3k questions in the google cloud collective

2 months in, 1.5k recommended

That's actually not too bad, if those are the questions that attract the most visitors from Google ;)

i don't... think they are tho

the top trending question in that collective doesn't even have a recommended answer

Yeah, that's not sounding great

i'd assume it's the one that is accepted with 780 upvotes

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm curious of 1: who can select recommended answers, and 2: how much overlap there is between recommended answers and recognized users

huh... it seems that 1500 count includes answers by recommended members, for all time

?