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1:27 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 There's different measurement systems for different places: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

6:04 AM

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A: Header line display sometimes hides red new-messages counter

This is rather non-trivial, as these two indicator badges have no knowledge of each other's existence. A trivial solution would be to give the red one a higher z-index, but then we'd get complaints that the reputation indicator would not be readable... Given the very few users who have this prob...

> I only know of one flower with that kind of discipline.

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7:40 AM

o/

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 oh so Bart's the meta denizen with the comically large shoes

a diamond had it for breakfast

yup

I posted, here, switched tabs and saw it turn red

8:15 AM

@rene There seems to be a small pattern emerging this morning: meta.stackexchange.com/q/368129/369802

Sebastian Simon

@rene That’s the second recipe spam I’ve seen. I’m just flagging these as rude or abusive since copy-pasting random recipes into the question form is an abuse of the network.

The user from the stir fry beans had a previous spam post... the one you linked includes some propaganda...

Yeah, red flags are fine

@Tinkeringbell noted

@SebastianSimon yeah, I considered that but couldn't find that quickly were it got copied from, so couldn't make that call. Glad I asked here first.

Sebastian Simon

@rene I also didn’t really check if it’s copied from somewhere — I just assumed it was. But it shouldn’t really matter.

If no one complains we're all good

8:49 AM

Hi, I want to file a complaint

Hello, thanks for calling customer service. Please fill out this form with your full name, address, phone number, email address, national ID number, user ID, network ID, and the contact information of three people unrelated to you who can confirm this information before we can proceed.

I don't have that many friends. My complaint is no longer.

If you were dissatisfied with your customer service experience, please call this other number between the time of 10:45AM and 10:50AM in the timezone three hours below yours. Your customer service complaint will be filed and noted with the proper authority.

My mom always had this "joke": Please file complaints on an empty sheet of paper

*calls*
"Thank you, your call is important to us."
(three notes of a song play)
"Thank you, your call is important to us."
(17 hours pass)
(three notes of a song play)
"We honestly didn't expect anybody to wait that long."

9:05 AM

@Luuklag Moms have this thing that they can secretly make much worse dad jokes than dads

"I have a complaint"
"No need to share, I already have enough of my own"

or:

"What do you expect me to do now, become jealous?"

"Congrats!"

"show off"

Yeah, in Dutch there's also "bofkont".... It seems to have quite a few English translations but I'm not going to pick one, because I can't say which one has the sarcasm/ironic undercurrent this Dutch word has XD

9:44 AM

Just give it a try and see if you become a bofkont with chat flags ....

haha good one rene

Ill see if I get a bofkont today, with becoming full 5G capable with my second shot

Well, so far... I'm definitely being a bofkont. Something broke and I don't know what.

You'll probably know what broke when you got it fixed :)

I only hope its not a limb or something ;)

Probably not, though there might be broken limbs if I figure out which ones were responsible for this.

I was having a pretty normal morning until I pulled our main development branch from git.

After that, all our unit tests showed up as deleted files (locally) while they are still present at origin.

Ah syncing issues how lovely

Don't get me started about our filesharing system

9:56 AM

Well f-this... I'm just going to make a new clone.

At this point, that would've been faster if I had done it immediately.

10:18 AM

Yeah thats always what you think off when your done.

Well I have great reception now, ready to receive orders from Gates ;)

@Luuklag Woohoo!

@Luuklag The vaccine is a scam. I got my second shot a month ago and I've not been contacted by Gates. I believe the whole Gates microchip thing was a hoax to get us to vaccinate.

10:44 AM

@VLAZ Oh no, you got to be kidding me. This was my last shot in life. All is pointless now....

I know, right? I went and got a full refund for the shot. All zero of my money units were returned. That should teach them to tempt me with empty promises!

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11:10 AM

@VLAZ scam? Really? So how I can see you?

user image

:D

You can tell it's not me, because I am not just a head.

11:29 AM

@VLAZ but the fingerprints match!

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21752786/johnelbert0100?tab=accounts

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/22359565/phani-kumar?tab=accounts

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12:43 PM

OK @Glo, comment deleted; if you want to delete yours / edit / whichever. Thanks.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

12:54 PM

hehe

Dec 13 '20 at 13:21, by Shadow 10 Years Wizard

user image

@Ollie

I just got site analytics today :)

oi wanna pass a brother Trusted User?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

1:15 PM

@Luuklag yay!

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 not that there is anything usefull to see there ;)

Hey people! Should the tour page revision history be added in this answer: meta.stackexchange.com/a/76569?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Luuklag tru dat

@RandomPerson no, it's mod only.

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 The revision history can be accessed by normal users.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@RandomPerson oh. lol, so sure, go ahead. Even me don't know how to access it. :D

But it might be a bug, since only mods can edit, it makes more sense only they can see the revisions.

1:26 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 But, only mods can share the link..

Example: askubuntu.com/posts/239296/revisions

in Raiders of the Lost Downboat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 23 hours ago, by Zanna

@RandomPerson https://askubuntu.com/posts/239296/revisions

Well in all fairness, it is just another post, so yeah you could access the revision history if you happen to have the post ID

probably you can even find the post ID in the source of the tour page

@Luuklag If you can, please add the revision history link in the answer.

@RandomPerson It's already there, except it's called 'question revision history'

@Luuklag I'm not good at looking the source of the page..

> Question revision history
/posts/[post ID]/revisions, e.g., meta.stackexchange.com/posts/76569/revisions
shown as the “history” link for questions and answers with at least two revisions
contains links to individual revisions and their source code, as well as summaries of a number of other events such as closing, reopening, (un)deleting, bounty start/end, (un)locking, tweeting, marked (not) community wiki, and merging.

So don't add, if you feel it should be there, edit the existing information on that link.

1:31 PM

@Luuklag Congrats ;)

@Tinkeringbell OK. Bye :|

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 that was a while ago...

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Ollie yup

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1:47 PM

Hey people! I recently posted an answer to a question and deleted it. I wanted to start a bounty on that question and noticed that 50 reputation option isn't there. I couldn't find any relevant post about this. Is this a bug?

You probably bountied it before.

I know that I can't start a bounty of 50 rep if I have answered the question. But in my case, I deleted the answer.

@Glorfindel I saw you updated the unlinked questions FAQ to mention the user priviliges. I see you used Shog as an example there. Perhaps it would be better to use a current employee, like @Catija?

@rene Nope.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Luuklag why employee? Does it matter?

1:49 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 well using a random user as example doesn't feel right with me

And for those who don't know shog, he is just another random user

Whereas a staff member has a staff badge

@Luuklag I deliberately did not choose an employee, since their privilege table is always completely checked, even if they have low reputation.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@RandomPerson deleting the answer isn't relevant, as you can just undelete it after starting the bounty. So, trivial to abuse.

@Glorfindel ah okay, makes sense!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

Once you have answer, you can't start bounty of 50 rep.

@RandomPerson the deletion doesn't matter, you answered it before. You could undelete the answer after you started the bounty. This is to prevent abuse. It is not a bug, it is a feature

1:51 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 hmm.. Is there any post about this in MSE?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

echo

;)

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Q: Why can't I add a bounty worth 50 reputation after deleting my answer on a question?

According to How does the bounty system work?, the minimum spend on a bounty is 100 reputation if you already have an answer on that question. I get that, and it is explained in waffles' answer to Clever bounty reputation hack. Is this by status-bydesign to prevent abuse? What if I self-delete...

discussion bounties deleted-answers

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

Joint effort! :D

:)

@Glorfindel Thanks!

1:53 PM

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Q: Undocumented increase in minimum bounty value?

I recently discovered that if I have posted an answer to a question, the minimum bounty I can offer for that question is +100 (instead of the usual +50). Temporarily deleting the answer reinstates the +50 bounty (a workaround!). As far as I can tell, this is not mentioned in faq#bounty, /priv...

bug status-completed bounties faq-update-request

@Glorfindel Can you please add the information in faq meta.stackexchange.com/q/16065?

If you have already answered the question before, the minimum bounty offer is 100.

@Glorfindel nothing mentioned about bounty rep after deletion of answer...

You know you can make edits yourself too, right?

The 'before' implies deleted answers as well. At least that's how I read it.

If you can make it clearer, be my guest; it's a Community Wiki post and you're a member of the community as well.

1:59 PM

One tip: adding more text often doesn't help to make things more clear. reference: SOCVR FAQ and The Law.

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@Glorfindel Well.. I am bad at writing meaningful sentences.

we all are ...

@RandomPerson There's no improvement if you don't even try.

@Tinkeringbell I am done trying. I've had enough downvotes. I know it's a community wiki..

Okay. Then I probably shouldn't waste time explaining that edits can't be downvoted...

2:04 PM

It's raining stars again. Which is either a good thing or a bad thing

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@Tinkeringbell well having your edit rolled back feels as bad as getting a downvote, maybe even more as what you worked for is gone.

Wha, you guys aren't even disagreeing on much

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So it feels as bad as having a post deleted.

@M.A.R. Depends on where they land... If the crash through your roof, it's bad :P

If they land in the middle of a desert, could be fun :)

@Tinkeringbell I think it would be bad for a little bit more than my roof

The sun would get jealous, for one

2:05 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Yeah, if you're that far gone, there's no need for me to waste time on explaining.... If you can't handle having mistakes corrected while learning, there's no learning.

Tink, don't go clearing stars on your own posts ;)

@Luuklag I do with my posts what I want, they're mine after all.

OK, I see people are just in an agreeable mood. How can I make use of this situation

I don't need stars all over them.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Tinkeringbell sure, I just put @RandomPerson's hat for a while. :)

2:06 PM

@Tinkeringbell not after you licensed them to the great evil overlord, their not.

@Tinkeringbell But... They're sparkly!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@M.A.R. ask for $$$

@Spevacus Glitter is sparkly too... would you like glitter all over you?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

!!/$$$

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 No such command ''.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

2:06 PM

:(

Fair point...

Proposes to make adding a post-it note after a downvote a requirement

Hey it's not a comment, it's not a comment.

There's a service in the US that'll mail glitter bombs to people (that you really hate) for you.

Really?

People only write useful things in post-it notes.

2:07 PM

@M.A.R. Wait, you don't? Half my screen is covered with post-its saying !@#$%%^&&

@Spevacus You've seen this guy that fights package thieves with glitterbombs?

@Tinkeringbell intricate password

NSFW: shipyourenemiesglitter.com

@Spevacus I know that site, it's good!

Pretty excellent, hahaha

@Spevacus ew I don't want my enemies' glitter

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

2:08 PM

@Tinkeringbell what's wrong with some glitter?

user image

;-)

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I know a perfect Cartman meme for this

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Spevacus LOL

*grumbles about everyone filling up the starboard with random stuff*

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You know how to beg properly, @Mith ;)

Better than everyone filling up the starboard with grumbles.

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2:10 PM

@Mithical Let's call it a gift. It's not a bribe if it's a gift.

Has the filter button always been present at MSE?

Nope. Seems new to me

@Tinkeringbell that's what I thought

OMG as if I didn't have enough Excel in my life

For you Journeyˆˆ

2:30 PM

Zzzz lost internet

@Luuklag I have not, lol

Glitterbomb 3.0 vs. Porch Pirates

@Luuklag This is excellent

2:46 PM

He also has a video on catching scammers I'm watching now

Journeyman Geek

and squirrel obstacle courses

3:16 PM

The 2021 Stack Overflow Developer Survey is here!

Ben Popper on August 02, 2021

Our data reveals some fascinating trends in education, remote work, and web frameworks.

I'm sure I upvoted this twice. Once when it was posted, and just now... can't keep track.

🚽

@Luuklag Would work better if you replaced the glitter with cinnamon or even better ghost pepper powder

I think one of the better scammer exposure channels is this one, he hacks them and gets all their info:

Showing a Scammer Call Center their Photos!

3:38 PM

@Feeds Typo?

> This year’s survey was a little different than ones in years past. We opened our 2020 survey in February, and by the time we got around to publishing the results,

@Rob thise teo guys did a colab, with these indian call centers scamming elderly people.

4:32 PM

this is kinda funny. User on Arqade noticing I answered all theirs Ultima related question.

Wonder why...

@ShadowWizard Before you ask, nope, I am not Garriott. Even if his main game features a talking horse.

5:04 PM

@Ollie poof

Thx @Luuk

Communities are a catalyst for technology development

Prashanth Chandrasekar on August 02, 2021

It’s a big day at Stack Overflow! Our Prosus deal has closed and our latest Dev Survey is live.

Thanks for the marketing talk @feeds

Hey wow, a star

@Luuklag I think you might've jinxed it.

;)

5:19 PM

You rascal ;)

@Luuklag Aren't there enough darn stars already floating around the place??

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Hey look, one Just landed

proceeds to star every message in the tavern

@Mithical if you say that more stars will appear.

...I've noticed.

3

Write a message about stars in the tavern, get....

5:22 PM

Nah, only works if you're grumpy about it, apparently.

3

I wished you'd said "completed reports". I could really use one right now.

A star?

52 secs ago, by Luuklag

I wished you'd said "completed reports". I could really use one right now.

Completed report

5:35 PM

All but one of the messages on the starboard were written by @Mithical. Not fair.

Sorry. I'll have to change my name to Bart now.

@Mithical If anyone stars that

Need... to star... rising...

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*rolls eyes*

Go, Spev!

5:43 PM

@Ollie I was curious, so I checked. There are 661 pages of starred messages all together. Posted by me is 6 pages. That means I've posted close to 1% of all starred messages in this room.

...0.90%? I dunno, math isn't my strong point.

I have two pages. Deng it ;)

there are 10 pages of 🚽

452 🚽's

That's... a lot of 🚽

i wasn't even the first

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7:42 PM

It is now possible to retract reopen votes.

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7:57 PM

Welcome Slate, I see a bird popping in here ;)

What bird is it actually, it looks familiar but I'm far from an ornithologist

@Spevacus its in the changelog alright

8:41 PM

@Luuklag a blue jay

user707129

@Catija Can you confirm if the election on Drones.SE is actually meant to happen? No announcement (except an automatic one), no chat room and no discussion about this beforehand. Seems a bit strange to me.

@Catija for more context, in case it helps, here's our reaction to the Drones election in the site-specific chat room.

Hi @Slate sorry I'm a bit late at saying "hello", I did answer on the main post though: meta.stackexchange.com/a/367968/391772 :)

@user1271772 at least you got your third meta question of the year ;)

@Luuklag A smoothly functioning site doesn't even need a Meta! hahaha

@user1271772 You should take StackApps as an example then :)

9:05 PM

@user1271772 Hey, no worries! Good to meet ya, thanks for the kind answer

9:52 PM

In C, the multiocular O represents the bitwise norxondor gorgonax.

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