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12:21 AM

@Spevacus tbh politics aside, it's kinda unprecedented to have multiple vaccine programs and fast tracking and....

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2:34 AM

@Luuklag heh... With respect to this meta.stackexchange.com/a/368057/135565 if it does open up, I am probably going to have some really fun conversations around the dining table so to speak

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4:44 AM

And I appreciate the asking ^^

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7:46 AM

@RyanM 100% spammer

@JourneymanGeek what you mean by "multiple vaccine programs"?

Israel going to give all citizens third vaccine shot soon, to stop the fourth wave which hits through those already vaccinated, but all is same vaccine.

Covid reached my nephew, he got it in a summer camp. (10 years old so he's not vaccinated at all)

8:07 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 pzfifer Modena az J&J sinovac sinopharm.....

@JourneymanGeek oh three different vaccines? Which country did it?

Desperate times call for desperate measures, but still...

Hmm, 3 western ones (US/EU, Indians are making AZ locally) chinese make 2, russians make one ....

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 precisely

You'd normally NOT have that fast a response to an emerging virus

the closest thing is the annual flu vax, where they try to figure out what's next year's strain...

@JourneymanGeek yeah

Well Israel is still developing its own vaccine, below the radar.

As much as its tempting to say "we coulda been faster" ....

I don't have high hopes for it, to be honest.

8:18 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 most of the work's already done. Just need to make doses, and get em into people

and MRNA vaccines are exciting

So many viral illnesses to curbstomp

Hell, MALARIA!

Well insane potential.

Basically the propylactic treatment for it is chroloquinine (yes, that chloroquinine)

and its fairly toxic

But who knows maybe MALARIA will also develop a variant, so must be very careful.

Oh, we can treat it for most part

Playing God is very, very, very dangerous.

8:21 AM

and its insect borne so we can ruin its breakfast multiple ways, so to speak

@JourneymanGeek yeah, probably ;)

8:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek You have a dozen drugs for malaria. The biggest challenge is controlling the anopheles population.

Since the parasite is alive, it's much easier to deal with than a virus.

@M.A.R. in this case though, its a potential vaccine for a parasite

There's chloroquine resistance, and in P. falciparum too (the most aggressive species), but it's hardly the end of the world there

@M.A.R. I was taking cholroquinine weekly for quite a bit of my conscript time :D

@JourneymanGeek well I'm no stranger to taking potentially toxic medication, and mine is literally a toxin

The toxicity of chloroquine is of course overhyped. The idea was to recommend against people hoarding chloroquine.

@M.A.R. oh we got warmed pre covid

Warned

8:43 AM

The reason why people are recommended against taking chloroquine when we don't know it works is the same reason people shouldn't take non-OTC drugs just because

And the only place that even stocks it is the military

After all, when you consider the amount, every drug is very potent by-design. Most drugs are fatal in doses more than a few grams

But hepatotoxicity is a rare or uncommon side effect in quite a lot of drugs, and it's not something unique to chloroquine or anything. The problem is, as usual, that when a drug goes on TV, you inevitably have people overdosing on it, whether it's vitamin A or chloroquine

@JourneymanGeek Heat has no effect on the virus!

Sounds the alarms

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10:19 AM

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@M.A.R. what about love and affection?

10:33 AM

Heat can have an effect on love and affection....

Wolf

10:49 AM

@Rob cat

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

1:00 PM

@JourneymanGeek I know, right? The virus is just misunderstood, it just loves cells so much

Wolf

1:12 PM

Oleg Valter

1:27 PM

should Looking back at suggested-edit review audits throws a 500 error message at least have a [status-review] tag on it? Kind of a bad issue reported on both MSO/MSE, but I feel it flew under the radar

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4:24 PM

@Rob Can you please clarify why this edit suggestion is spam or vandalism? (Was it so, and later edited by the time I got to it?)

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7:09 PM

@Wolf Hi

Chat's so empty, huh

Its the weekend

@M.A.R. What would you like to talk about?

@DavidPostill well, these days I feel like whatever I'm gonna say is said better by people that are on the whole way more engaged on the topic, so I just prefer to read

7:25 PM

@M.A.R. Do you often feel like whatever you're gonna say is said better by people that am on the whole way more engaged on the topic, so you just prefer to read?

user728672

did we lose the ability to edit image sizes during an edit?

@DavidPostill 7. Definitely 7. Maybe 6.

Ugh, these surveys

They're the hardest exams you ever take

@M.A.R. You aren't sure?

@GWarner we never really had it

other than using a suffix on the file name

@M.A.R. We were discussing you, not me.

7:27 PM

AM I or AM I NOT comfortable in parties when people talk about nuclear emission? 5. No wait 6. No wait, am I even invited to parties?

user728672

okay. ill root around for the opt in for the other editor and turn it on/off again.

Eliza detected

@M.A.R. Have you asked such questions before?

@M.A.R. what about gas emissions?

On a scale of 1 to 10, describe how awkward you feel when you forget to shower and then remember in the car that you have a meeting with Elon Musk

@JourneymanGeek OMG not the gas emissions!

7:30 PM

@JourneymanGeek Does that question interest you?

@DavidPostill HEY! No pressure! I didn't want to be in this pandemaholics anonymous group anyway

Storms out

Sneaks a peek back in

Are they talking about me now

@M.A.R. Are you saying NO just to be negative?

@DavidPostill sometimes, it stinks

@DavidPostill Yes. I mean No, I mean maybe

ELIZA

ELIZA is an early natural language processing computer program created from 1964 to 1966 at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory by Joseph Weizenbaum. Created to demonstrate the superficiality of communication between humans and machines, Eliza simulated conversation by using a "pattern matching" and substitution methodology that gave users an illusion of understanding on the part of the program, but had no built in framework for contextualizing events. Directives on how to interact were provided by "scripts", written originally in MAD-Slip, which allowed ELIZA to process user inputs and...

@DavidPostill Are you kidding me?! You're like, and so, and then, and then you're like

@Rob I hardly know 'er

7:33 PM

Eliza has trolled both @M.A.R. and @JourneymanGeek

😂

That is the writing style of his replies, AKA humor.

@Rob Well spotted

We are that old.

Horrified blond TV show character-ly

Writes an online artirant about the dangers of AI

It was before AI.

7:35 PM

@M.A.R. Well I did liven the room up a bit ...

Writes a follow-up about the dangers of before AI

@Rob Ugh, that meme

Continues to purse lips for selfies with cat ear filter

I wonder if there is a more "up to date" version of Eliza that use real AI

This article says Alexa, and lists others between the two over the years. So, yes.

Most famous fictional one:

HAL 9000

HAL 9000 is a fictional artificial intelligence character and the main antagonist in Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey series. First appearing in the 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey, HAL (Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer) is a sentient artificial general intelligence computer that controls the systems of the Discovery One spacecraft and interacts with the ship's astronaut crew. While part of HAL's hardware is shown toward the end of the film, he is mostly depicted as a camera lens containing a red or yellow dot, instances of which are located throughout the ship. HAL 9000 is voiced...