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7:04 AM
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8:00 AM
@Wolgwang what bug?
You mean Emma math posting 3 minutes ago? Well kind of a bug, yes.
The last non system post was indeed made by Emma math, but not 3 minutes before you took the screenshot, more like in May 16. However the last activity in the room was made indeed 3 minutes before you took the screenshot, the activity was unfreezing of the room by a moderator.
Feel free to submit bug report for that, if there's none yet. :)
 
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Ah the janitor is back ;)
 
You missed me?
 
It was getting quite messy in here ;)
 
9:09 AM
@Luuklag I was wondering why you'd pasted a barely comprehensible translation in there...makes sense now
 
@RyanM well it was pretty decently translated IMHO, as best as you can expect from an autmated system
It only occured to me after I posted it that it was a translation of Journeys answer
The parrot ate it already, you hungry for lunch already @tink
 
Yeah!
To be honest, I've been feeling like "I need a snack" for days now, even after I had a snack XD
 
sounds like stress-eating ;)
 
Hmm. Not that stressed anymore though. Usually stress is good for me: I don't feel like eating when I'm stressed XD
 
 
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10:37 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Thanks :-) . FYI it is fine now.
 
11:27 AM
@Tinkeringbell long time no see
waves
 
@magisch Hey! Indeed :) Was just thinking about you this week, hoping you didn't live in any of the flooded parts...
How's life been?
 
11:50 AM
I seriously need my head examining. I have a to-do list as long as four arms, and an upcoming (unscheduled) hospital admission for 4 days of tests, and have just reserved a new apartment, with all the hassle that involves. Lift access, level living, no garden (just a nice balcony to sit on), new build so should be relatively hassle free, closer to family... absolutely the right move except for all the angst until I'm settle din.
But, if I don't move now, I may not be well enough to do so in the future. And it is a lovely spacious bright apartment.
 
12:09 PM
@ColeValleyGirl Best of luck with all that.
 
@Luuklag Worst will be not having a good working area in the new place until I've got a carpenter in to create a usable desk (huge screen, tower, huge printer, 2 x NAS and all the cabling). If I have to work with my teeny laptop for more than a week I'll be certifiable:)
 
Can't you take your current desk, or DIY something?
You know there is an entire network site for that ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell pretty rough
getting better though
had a family health issue that left me a complete mess for a time, and adjusting to being back in the office has been rough
And no I don't live in any flooded parts, but it's close. Some people here who work for disaster relief off time have been called in full time to help deal with the fact that several dozen towns are completely uninhabitable and have been washed over
The water is rough and a large area has been flooded. Due to downstream flowing it's expected that a lot more will be flooded. The people preparing for this are working around the clock currently. My home county is at an elevated position with mountains on three sides, so while we did get bad rains, we got no flooding.
 
@magisch That's good to hear, fingers crossed it keeps that way!
@magisch Yeah, they're doing much the same here, most of the water from Germany/Belgium is expected to reach rivers that flow through the Netherlands.
I just read about what seems to be the first dike actually breaking over here.
 
@Tinkeringbell has some reading to do
 
Ah a credible source, luckily no telegraaf or something ;)
Luckily there are no fatalities in NL yet.
 
Hahaha no, I don't pay for the telegraaf. I usually use the nos, very rarely I entertain myself with nu.nl and it's reactions.
@Luuklag Yeah. I don't know if that's luck or just the geography though.
 
@Tinkeringbell And our continued big investment in river infrastructure
 
That too yeah. I heard that the last big floods were ~25 years ago? 1995 or something? And that a lot has changed since then, so fingers crossed.
 
Yeah, our town is also a river town, hopefully we don't get the same mess in a few days
@Tinkeringbell yup, 1995, around where I live currently
De evacuatie van het Rivierenland is een van de grootste evacuaties uit de recente Nederlandse geschiedenis. Op 31 januari 1995 en in de dagen daarna werden 250.000 mensen, variërend van vijf dagen tot twee weken, verplicht uit grote delen van het Gelderse rivierengebied geëvacueerd vanwege de gevaarlijk hoge waterstand van de Maas, de Rijn, de Waal en de IJssel. In het geval dat de dijken daadwerkelijk waren doorgebroken, zouden veel plaatsen in de Betuwe, de Bommelerwaard en het Land van Maas en Waal tot ongeveer vijf meter onder water zijn komen te staan. Concreet betekent dit dat van veel huizen...
 
12:34 PM
@Luuklag I was only 4 back then, not much did stick :P
I should be safe though. We live near the IJssel, but quite a bit higher :)
If you're bored and could use a laugh: twitter.com/RoelantSiekman/status/1415952136207224836?s=20
 
not bored, laughed anyway
 
12:50 PM
same here ;) But I met a lot of farmers in this region over the last few years, and everybody keeps talking about it.
 
I see that our riverfront campside is being cleared out today
 
@Feeds Best practices for oneboxes
 
1:14 PM
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@Tinkeringbell you might like this: instagram.com/p/CMCYUsLHsUV
 
1:42 PM
@curious Neat! Another potential craft to add to the pile ;)
 
2:02 PM
@Tinkeringbell I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing lol
 
@curious Embroidered waffles?
@Tinkeringbell Lucky you, it's within 400m of me.
Today we'll stay dry, tomorrow we'll stay dry, who knows what Sunday brings.
IJssel is at 644cm above NAP in Zutphen, 974cm above NAP at De Steeg.
Hardly records, but much higher than they should be this time of year.
Looks like Rijn and Maas take the brunt of it.
For reference, Maaseik (Zuid Limburg) is at 3014cm above NAP.
At that height, there's flooding.
 
2:33 PM
 
@Feeds a onebox? But it hasn't been 6-8 weeks yet.
 
XKCD is like coffee... it has to work or the entire site fails.
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🚽
 
@curious Yes :P
@Mast Oof :( Fingers crossed Sunday stays dry too.
 
@Mast A bit pasty and dry to chew on but OH so fluffy and soft
 
2:46 PM
@Tinkeringbell flooded?
 
@Ollie Nothing in the neighborhood, but yeah the southern parts of the country are struggling now and the rivers are expected to reach record heights throughout the country.
 
 
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@Tinkeringbell Lets hope nobody has to use their fingers or boats to plug holes in the dykes ...
 
@DavidPostill So far, it turned out no dikes were harmed yet. What they thought was a breach was 'wel', a place behind the dike where water/sand were coming out of the ground. A few well-placed bags of sand provided counterpressure and the issue seems solved for now :)
 
5:00 PM
Let's hope it stays that way for y'all.
 
Fingers crossed yeah. There's been a lot of damage already, hopefully not much more will come.
 
 
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Rob
6:15 PM
There's a tremendous amount of water in the surrounding area: dw.com/en/…
 
that's a lot of water
 
user728672
whats it mean if i can view an OP's page but cant ping them in comment?
 
Where on the scale from potable to septic does it rank?
(I'm not putting violently caustic on the scale because there are people submerged in it and still alive)
 
6:43 PM
@JohnDvorak septic enough to get sick from it, though most of the colour is probably from mud. Still, advice is always to not play in it because you can easily get diarrhea or an airway infection.
Crocs aren't so bad after all: this one is saving a mouse, a worm, a snail and a whole lot of ants!
 
Rob
7:21 PM
@JohnDvorak It wouldn't be drinkable, and I wouldn't trust it not to be septic. A dyke has burst, and in the second link of a video you can see a ~30m deep swath cut into the land and sewer pipes distributed on the left side in this drone flyover: aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/16/… youtu.be/HLikZFLuN5Y?t=390
PS: Clicking [CC] and chosing in the settings to translate works a little,you can get the gist of it.
 
8:18 PM
Dropping in to say hi. :-)
 
Hi!
 
Hi rene. I'm Philippe. I'm the new VP of Community.
How are things?
 
I know. Brave post you put out on MSE!
 
Thanks. :). I appreciate the kind words, but I don't think of it as particularly brave. Rather, its' due diligence to make sure I don't muck things up too badly accidentally. And nobody better to help with that, than community members.
 
@Philippe I'm watching how the flood in Limburg will develop. Not impacted myself so things are okay.
 
8:20 PM
That looked nasty. :(.
I hope things turn out okay but I'm afraid there's going to be too a huge loss of life. :(
 
yeah, Belgium and Germany are hit hard.
 
I've got friends in that area. :(. Lots of them, from my wikipedia days
so far everyone is okay, best I know.
 
If the dikes will hold it might stay under control.
Assuming the "tourists" won't flood the area instead of the water
 
@rene Too late:
 
yeah, it is like "dansen met jansen", either drown or corona ...
@Philippe I haven't enough text for an answer but things you shouldn't touch for Stack Overflow is its core principles laid down in 2008 / 2009. The early podcasts might help there for context. Do change on-boarding of new users, improve their guidance, put out a clear narrative on social media that Q/A is different from wikipedio, forums, facebook and twitter
I was wondering if those two questions have widely different answers for the non-trilogy sites.
But I'm not engaged enough beyond SO/MSO and MSE to have an opinion or guess for that matter
 
8:32 PM
@rene Seen this one already?
I think that's as far removed from trilogy sites as it gets... and yet not too different.
 
reading
 
read faster.... :P
 
Hey, it is friday, I'm in my after VrijMiBo dip
 
Ah, don't worry. That should be gone by Monday ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell okay, read and voted on. I think that answers my last speculation a bit.
 
8:37 PM
Cool. Then now I can go sleep in peace ;) Night!
 
@Tinkeringbell it better be gone tomorrow, I get my second shot. I don't want to by bounced at the door ...
@Tinkeringbell welterusten
 
@rene Meh. In my experience, those bouncers are just there for decorative purposes ;) Good luck though, may the side-effects be kind on you :)
 
Wasn't too bad the first time, so I assume it will be fine now as well
 
9:22 PM
this edit of mine got rejected... I was trying to just get rid of the tag following this, should I not bother editing when a more specific tag is already present or something?
 
9:32 PM
@bobble Not sure why the reviewers rejected, but generally, when removing tags that fall under the category in your edit summary, it's preferred that there be a meta post about it first.
 
and it'd probably helpful to link that meta post in the edit summary. I'd certainly be more likely to approve that edit after seeing Geek's post, whereas I'd probably reject it otherwise.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog should I link the meta post every time? There was one, a while back, and I was reluctant to edit myself since I don't have full rights and I'd rather not look like a rep-hunter
 
@bobble Yeah, that'd greatly increase the chance of your edit being approved.
 
When I tried to do a few small edits for a different tag removal before, and the other edits for this tag, I never linked and they all got approved. First time for everything, I guess
(well I mean one got rejected and "improved" with tags I strongly disagree with, but at least the original tag wasn't there any more)
 
Assuming reviewers and/or moderators are aware of everything happening on the site is a recipe for disappointment, rejection, and declined flags ;-)
Providing context is always useful.
 
9:41 PM
Doing completely thorough edit summaries is one of those habits that waxes and wanes for me, particularly because it is the kind of thing I would want but that no one else seems to care about
 
It's more important when it's otherwise not clear why your edit should be approved. Think of it like when you'd use a plain spam flag (obvious spam) vs. a custom mod flag (not clear why it's spam, needs an explanation).
 
I've never come across spam that needed a custom flag
I mean I've read the meta posts asking for the ability to explain their spam flags but never rand into a practical use case myself
 
I usually don't read the edit summaries unless I go "huh?" when looking at the edit. If the edit is clearly good on its own, then I'll just approve it without reading the summary. If it's unclear, then I'll read the summary.
 
Also, do I want editing rights; it's annoying to have to wait for all my edits to be applied. Also a reason I edit here less than my other sites.
 
@bobble here's one. here's a live one, even. Note that it's been commented on by a moderator after it was spam-flagged.
 
9:47 PM
Well, Software Recs is a special case, innit? Puzzling and Literature get less but more straightforward spam.
 
Yeah softwarerecs spam is a huge pain to spot. I've seen subtle spam campaigns elsewhere, too, though. Even ones that fooled a number of Charcoal reviewers who are used to spam.
Any site that allows product recommendation questions makes reliably identifying spam very difficult if the spammers know what they're doing.
Stack Overflow's rules make a number of spammer tricks not work because you can just close and delete the questions even if they're not provably spam ;-)
 
ooh, deletion rights. I want those on Puzzling so bad. Not much deleting goes on, on Lit
 
"oh no my [buy cheap products online](https://cheapproducts4u.biz) site has a problem, the rendering doesn't work, plz help" -> close, needs debugging details, Something in my web site or project doesn't work. Can I just paste a link to it?
Yeah sadly I lack full deletion rights on SO... 20k is so many points to get.
 
I'm just shy of 8k on Puzzling; was getting around one ~+10 Q a week and then Events occurred. Though not even 10k would be enough since I want to delete the bad answers more than the bad Qs
 
I get relatively little use out of my full deletion rights on Law, but it's useful now and again
Mostly non-answers and the occasional pseudo-law answer. Though there's a decent argument that pseudo-law answers should be left up as a signpost of how wrong they are.
 
10:02 PM
Puzzling, by the nature of the topic, deals with joke/non-serious answers, and people also keep posting duplicate answers because they want to prove they solved it or something, and they don't want to check the other answers to "not spoil themselves" etc.
 

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