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12:01 AM
@bobble Yeah, I'd say so. ...but conveniently, the post is old enough that that's just a link in so body, so... now it's fixed. Though a moderator could also reopen and reclose as a modern duplicate if desired.
 
user728672
12:12 AM
meta is behind the times. my new avatar doesnt lad here?
 
third try's the charm
 
user728672
cute
 
user728672
well dang storms not out channel i was listening to and changed to the next available channel.. I should learn spanish..
 
12:27 AM
@GWarner showing up for me now after a refresh
 
user728672
ahh
 
What a wild ride his life is.
 
Yeah... Sorry.
 
user728672
12:39 AM
i dont think i ever used his software.
 
It's not his software that people like him for. In fact, he hates his software (it was bought from him but kept the name). He even made a (comical) video once showing how to uninstall it, with cocaine.
 
Rob
1:25 AM
@GWarner If you have a Samsung cellphone (possibly other brands too, and OEM computers) it is included:
 
The AV is really quite trash. It's unfortunate that his name is still associated with that.
Though to be fair, all AV is trash.
 
Rob
1:44 AM
I have a few running in the background. I also have trusted boot and monthly security updates. Never had a problem, unlike with a PC where I'd get hit a few times each year. PC problems are worse in recent years, because the problems are frequently undetectable and use your computer to create problems for others; leaving you holding the bag.
 
I guess it's good enough to protect from random malware online.
 
user728672
naw nothing like that. Avast on Laptop, MBAM on another, Still in the air with Windows 10. Does it really need 3rd part AV?
 
Rob
No protection from best efforts, which most people aren't subjected to; unless they are a valuable target.
 
You'd be surprised at just what might count as a valuable target.
 
user728672
Been trying for years to get someone to steal my identity with no luck.
 
1:49 AM
Especially if you're not the target, but a target who, if compromised, can be used to pivot.
 
Rob
One AV only often misses something, even if only for a few weeks.
 
E.g. a dev who works on an open source app that is used by an ISP which is used by a CEO.
 
user728672
I self isolate. I don't do online financial. Need online? Get a Prepaid Debit and throw it away when you are done. Don't reload from your bank.
 
Good enough to protect from the casual identity thief for sure.
(Which make up the majority of identity thieves)
 
user728672
Of course there is drawbacks. Lack of credit history. Purchase insurance for misplaced or damaged orders.....
 
1:54 AM
Not really a drawback, just a different lifestyle.
 
user728672
Im dealing with a mis-delivered order. $38 + loss I likely won't get refunded
 
ouch
Personally I always recommend people who use Windows to only use the built in Defender.
It's much better than it used to be, and better hardened against privesc than others.
 
Rob
Apparently ransomware attacks have lead to a U$1.5B loss: forbes.com/sites/andreatinianow/2020/07/01/…
 
haha wow
Good way to teach people to make backups.
Or to make money, depending on which side you're on.
 
Rob
... and not photograph your girlfriend's stuff.
 
2:05 AM
That's not as big a deal because your camera probably has copies.
But then again, I'm out of touch with modern photography.
 
Rob
Think twice, post once.
 
heh
But as long as people are making backups, ransomware is more-or-less harmless.
And it's quite easy to take incremental snapshots without buying a zillion drives.
 
Rob
What if they sell your photos of your girlfriend or children, for a buck a shot ...
 
Most ransomware just automatically encrypts data on hard drives and doesn't upload it anywhere. Data breaches and ransomware are quite different.
 
Rob
A backup isn't going to do anything.
 
2:08 AM
And anyone who can sell photos of someone's girlfriend or children for a dollar each is an incredible salesman. :D
But unlike ransomware, I doubt those kind of ransom data breaches cause anywhere near a $1.5B loss, especially since they tend to be either much more targeted, or a scam (i.e. they don't actually have any of your data).
 
Rob
Smokey announces such links occasionally, such as the dolls ...
 
dolls?
oh
Scammers on SE?
(Of course, it's important to save any photos you don't want leaked in encrypted media that's not constantly plugged into your computer! Otherwise you're just asking for trouble.)
 
 
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5:01 AM
@forestdistrustsStackExchange I'm vaguely thinking they actually put that as the title of their post?
their other post metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/313325 does show with what should be a really offensive title
 
Rob
5:43 AM
Much like this trick of a week ago; use an expected error message as the text to be read:
 
6:01 AM
27 messages moved to Chimney
 
 
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8:07 AM
@JNat, one site spammer, but with very offensive name. Could you nuke as well? stackexchange.com/users/22036797/?tab=accounts
 
 
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9:39 AM
sdc k
 
@Wolf No such command 'k'.
 
ok
 
It's sd k, but that would only work for privileged users.
 
oh ok
like my new avatar
 
looks like a snake in the tiny chat icon, but if you're okay with that it looks nice :-)
 
9:42 AM
its a dragon
:)
 
ah, well then a snake's not too far off
 
ok
 
It looks like it's got some aspect ratio issues in your profile, though.
 
yeah when i look in my profile its kina squeezing
its squeezing in my profile
 
10:06 AM
@RyanM so how do I look like in the small icon? ;)
@RyanM yup that's because of a bug (?) the image on the profile page isn't scaled at all, it's the original, so the browser is forcing both width and height.
There is request for thumbnail from SE side, for 328x328 size, but it's ignored by imgur. e.g. i.stack.imgur.com/iLXo4.png?s=328&g=1
So either SE should ask for size that exists, or imgur should add such a size.
Until then, images with ratio different than 1x1 will be squeeshy.
(not to mention waste of bandwidth, but that's on imgur side so doesn't matter ;))
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 you look like a person with a mask. wizard status unclear at this resolution.
 
:D
Well you don't see my wand.
:P
 
Rob
Is it blue?
 
10:30 AM
@Rob I hope not!!
Give me a second...
Nope. It has a crystal though.
 
check my profile
avatar
 
I'll show you my wand. Ready?
No? I'll show anyway.
:-D
 
woah
q:
 
10:51 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 so the wizard's rod does have a knob on the top
 
11:05 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 gone
@Luuklag gone
@Luuklag gone
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Hey, show the real one !
 
@Spevacus gone
@Spevacus gone
 
?
 
@Spevacus gone
@Luuklag looks like they have crappy answers, but not actual spam. On U&L there was a spammy looking answer, indeed, so I just destroyed that one profile for now. That leaves an annotation for posterity, and feeds some IP addresses to the system to block.
@Spevacus gone
@Luuklag gone
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone
@Luuklag had only ever posted on one site, so I'd say by definition can't be a cross-site spammer... ;P in any case, one of their posts looks spammy but the other just crappy — gonna leave it alone for now, since it could just be a misguided user.
 
Rob
11:41 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 It is possible for the chat's tiniest icon size to be of better quality; there's something wrong with it, compared to the site's top bar avatar:
See, one is sharp. The other is mushy.
 
12:05 PM
depends on the source image's physical size and on-site's resizing, I guess...
 
@Luuklag Weird. Their username on Stack Overflow got anonymized when the spam post they made on SO was deleted, but the destruction didn't go through fully - Their profile on SO still exists. They didn't remake their profile there, otherwise it would have picked up a suspension from remaking after destruction.
 
12:37 PM
@Spevacus Someone might've just reset the profile back to default instead of destroying it?
Would be weird to not push that networkwide then though...
 
It's possible. I won't bug an SO mod about it, but I've seen destruction not complete fully before on SO.
 
I guess if you want to be sure, a SO mod need to tell you ;)
@Spevacus Oh, that would be... a fatal flaw?
 
:O
@Tinkeringbell Would that affect new profiles being created? So, say you reset my MSE profile and I went on to make a profile on a different site - Would I retain my avatar and username pre-reset?
 
@Spevacus I think new profiles are always taken from the networkwide one? So it would take whatever is shown on stackexchange.com/users, I guess.
 
@Spevacus the source profile depends on the oldest created profile, isn't it?
 
12:40 PM
Prob
 
I mean, I can just test it on my 3D Printing account by deleting and recreating it (for the 6th time, I guess)
 
That poor sock... :(
 
1:10 PM
Hmmm why does a 5 month old post pop up?
 
user728672
1:23 PM
Why does it?
 
user728672
Lets try something. Im going to edit the post.
 
user728672
1:40 PM
editied my first post in a forum I wasnt part of. Now I understand what 'edited by 'Commuity' means
 
@GWarner on a site, not 'in a forum'
 
user728672
yea that too
 
user728672
irts too early where's coffee?
 
I think SmokeDetector hoards coffee and shares if asked nicely.
Otherwise, I wouldn't know.
 
user728672
figures
 
@Mithical You're even blurrier than @rene ! :D
 
@Mithical Oh wow, that's so cool! Well done you three! :)
 
And Yaakov is a lot more grey than his profile picture ;)
 
Sweet of you to point that out :P
 
Sha's still just looking like Sha though :D
 
1:58 PM
@Mithical you finally got blurred?
@rene you appear to have a fan here ;)
 
@terdon Not saying it's a bad thing! I hope I get the chance to turn grey too :)
 
"Collectivesâ„¢," eh?
 
my profile shot was from my first visit to the SE offices after I was hired, nearly 8 years ago
a lot has happened since then
well, at least I still have something left to turn grey....
 
@YaakovEllis Malnurishment also wasn't one of the things ;)
 
@YaakovEllis ha! Very valid point!
 
2:00 PM
@Luuklag kicks under the table... I didn't want to say that XD
 
@terdon both of my grandfathers were fully balf by the end of their twenties (an age that I have definitely surpassed by now)
@Luuklag really? we have to go there also?
 
@Tinkeringbell Aside from personal preference, I'm unsure about the military's regulations on stuff like that (they gave us some pointers, but I don't recall all the specifics), so... err on the side of caution. :)
(Definitely had to blur my base tag, that I know.)
 
@Luuklag it's the angle!
3
 
@YaakovEllis Good to know, I'll use that next time myself :)
 
@Luuklag Yaakov was very responsible and got a fruit shake instead of a milkshake :D
 
2:02 PM
Heh, last image of you you'd shared, @Mithical, was of a child. This one is clearly an adult, blurred or not. Nice to see evidence of time passing :)
 
@Mithical Caution is always good! I think all pictures I've seen of you so far have obscured your face ;-)
 
Shame though, you can no longer preen about being mature for your age :P
 
Somehow, I am technically an adult now. Hard to believe, but... yep. (I turn 19 in a month. Don't want to think about it.)
 
@terdon At what point do you stop that preening about being 'mature for your age' and instead start complaining about others being immature? ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Apparently... yesterday. :P
 
2:04 PM
Hahaha
 
Can anyone still repro the issue here? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/151894/…
 
@Tinkeringbell Eh, when you're just not immature, but no longer young enough for that to be impressive.
Mith in their teens was more mature than most adults!
 
@Luuklag it's always been like this until now ;)
 
@Luuklag Sort-of... I don't remember it being any different XD
@terdon I know, I was around for just a tiny bit of that :P
 
You're all making me feel old now, reminiscing about when I was a young teenager. >.<
 
2:11 PM
Welcome to the lawn ;)
 
So here I am ♪
Growing older all the time ♪
Looking older all the time ♪
Feeling younger in my mind ♪
 
I turn 25 this year and I'm not particularly excited about that.
And yet I'm still young D:
 
I'm turning 30... Doesn't feel all that mature, but that's to be expected in a place where maturity means 2 kids and a husband :|
 
Oh god, kids. Marriage. Maybe in a few years but, damn... I'm not ready now for sure.
 
I think I can get married at 34... Divorcing at 35 seems a reasonable thing to do here too XD
 
2:14 PM
LOL
 
@Tinkeringbell Then what am I?
 
(I'm playing this game right now where, to achieve perfection, you have to 'marry' a NPC.... )
 
@Tinkeringbell At least you won't get in a fight with them xD
 
@Luuklag You have two kids but no husband, right? That means immature then :P
@Luuklag Heh, you can divorce in the game too... and then they'll forever be grumpy, from what I've read. I usually just consider the game 'perfected' when the only thing left to do is marriage XD
 
@Tinkeringbell 3 and a wife ;)
 
2:16 PM
@Luuklag Oh, that not only makes you mature, it makes you old! :P
 
At least my hair isn't grey yet ;)
 
@Luuklag really? again?
 
3 kids, and none of them have given you grey hairs yet?! Wow.
 
@Tinkeringbell I'm blessed with excellent hair ;)
 
@YaakovEllis Just wait... In a few hours someone will end up photoshopping your avatar :P
@Luuklag That's nice! Mine is... meh. It's not grey either though :D
 
2:24 PM
I just had it cut today, Have to take a picture for the company website on monday :(
 
@Tinkeringbell Considering it...
 
@Luuklag Ugh, mandatory pictures are the worst.
 
@Tinkeringbell Couldn't resist. Sorry @YaakovEllis
 
Lol. Was that done in paint?
 
I bet it was powerpoint....
 
2:28 PM
Lightshot ;)
 
A man of culture.
 
Don't confuse grey hairs with tin foil though ;)
@YaakovEllis It's also hosted by gravatar instead of imgur, so has been around for a while I see ;)
 
That's a very nice photo of the three of you :-) It's always cool seeing the internet make things happen in real life.
6
 
🚽
 
Ehh... bad timing again, Kevin....
 
2:33 PM
Where there enough people in the venue for you guys to qualify for the [not-a-robot] badge @Mithical, @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2?
 
@Luuklag I only have fans ...
 
@rene wait what, onlyfans?
 
Venz
 
:facepalm:
 
2:41 PM
@Luuklag unfortunately probably not, was just the three of us :p
 
LOL
 
@Mithical if that is true, who took the picture?
 
@rene a wallflower ;)
well thats enough puns for the day, I better get some grey hairs, aka picking up the kids
 
Don't hurt your back while picking them up!
 
haha, yeah that is a serious risk with the twins
If you pick one up, the other feels left out
So you end up with 2x 20kg
 
2:45 PM
Time to get a gym membership before they grow much bigger :P
 
Already have one, tonight I go ;)
 
@rene waitress
 
Cool. It is awesome to see the three of you together. I'm glad and happy it worked out.
 
It only took a year and a half of planning ;)
 
totally worth it ;)
 
3:23 PM
@Tinkeringbell I told my kids about your observation about my shifting hair color, and they took the opportunity to laugh about it
@Luuklag they thought that you went over the line with the "malnourished" comment
@Mithical we were about to do this literally the first day of corona lock down in March 2020
@rene the waitress. The same one who accidentally spilled a bowl of pixels all over Mith's face.
 
Ha!
 
Rob
@Spevacus Looks like Liquid Paper typewriter eraser.
 
@YaakovEllis 🤣
 
@YaakovEllis They're kids, did you expect otherwise? :P
 
3:41 PM
@Tinkeringbell kids are always honest they say ;)
@YaakovEllis you raised them well.
 
user728672
hey smokey, its clickbait
 
user728672
you have my permission to delete it :)
 
Rob
4:18 PM
His hair look OK to me:
user image
4
From Feb 2020
 
user728672
Yaakov Ellis Amadeus Mozart!
 
user728672
ahh finally got my covid eye patch
 
user728672
Weirdly satisfying editting 13 year old questions....
 
user728672
Heloo Wolf, how have you helped the SE community today?
 
just got downvoted and answer deleted
@GWarner your question is downvoted
 
user728672
4:27 PM
which one?
 
user728672
which answer of yours?
 
-1
Q: Why is there no highlight and drag for moving blocks of text inside the input box?

G WarnerOften when I compose or edit posts, I find that often words or phrases are better suited in a different order and wish to move them, however, I am constantly reminded by the 🚫 (prohibited) symbol that I can not do this. Is this something specific to SE sites?

 
user728672
and which question of mine?
 
that is your question that is down voted
 
user728672
hmm i wonder why..
 
user728672
4:29 PM
lijke maybe is forbidden to question SE coders...
 
maybe
 
user728672
it was a simple question. i read 10 posts for 30 minutes trying to find an explaation.
 
user728672
I better not ask them why a link in a post comes back Blocked by Microsoft
 
user728672
how are blacklisted users even logging in?
 
?
 
user728672
4:34 PM
the idea of blacklist is, NOT ALLOWED, isnt it
 
user728672
@rene if that was an aswer I'd accept it.
 
"blacklisted user" is a feature of the Smoke Detector bot (run by Charcoal), not the network itself
 
sdc chois admins
 
user728672
okay i had to laugh at that @RyanM
 
oh ok
 
4:36 PM
@GWarner meh, not interested
 
user728672
well ill accept my own answer as soon as that window opens so I can get a new shiny
 
user728672
precius my precious
 
user728672
oh wait. no delay in self answer.. yhmmm
 
user728672
Answer the post Wolf.
 
user728672
Okay.
 
4:39 PM
well i have no idea about your question
 
user728672
Trying to give ya an ego boost. Read the comments and formulate one.
 
user728672
See my bio. the simplest questions need the longest answers.
 
user728672
sdc vodka and water
 
user728672
okay well then.
 
user728672
thanks again yall.
 
4:44 PM
your question is a bit confusing
 
23 hours ago, by SmokeDetector
Please don't play with me too much; I'm a serious bot meant for detecting spam, not for playing around with! I've got some fun features, but please be careful not to abuse them.
 
user728672
@wolf are you using the new editor?
 
user728672
i was just curois if smokey had more then coffee to offer
 
5:39 PM
@GWarner i don't know
 
$($)
 
 
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Rob
7:55 PM
@GWarner It is Zeus:
 
user728672
@Rob what is zeus
 
Rob
 
user728672
oh.. lol
 
Rob
10:01 PM
@Ollie, you got zapped; I voted to undelete.
 

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