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12:20 AM

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Q: Introducing new user onboarding project

Following the Public Platform Q2 2021 roadmap, the team is kicking off the new user onboarding project and announcing our plans for the product-discovery phase. New user onboarding – Purpose We see about 200k sign-ups a month on Stack Overflow alone. These newly registered users (signed up within...

The "Goals" section reads like buzzword soup.

I'm having difficulty parsing it to understand what is actually meant.

Except "Focus on teaching new users" I guess, which is certainly beneficial and actionable.

And the "Deliver value at each step" step sort of seems like it's talking about gamifying the system as a way to teach people necessary information without boring people to death.

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange Its slightly managementese.

But yes, I think you're right in those cases

forest distrusts StackExchange

Only slightly? :P

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange for all my sins, I'm also a management major...

forest distrusts StackExchange

"Introduce the Stack Overflow ecosystem" is definitely "Find ways to trick them into paying for things"

At least that's how the description reads.

Journeyman Geek

Actually that shows another slight flaw in SO inc's thinking

forest distrusts StackExchange

12:26 AM

So that's just marketing stuff.

Journeyman Geek

Well - new user onboarding is marketing in a sense

And one positive thing - this is "what we do" over "what you do"

forest distrusts StackExchange

Only in the sense that SE/SO income is correlated with quality and user participation.

But I think onboarding needs to focus on teaching people the ropes.

Finding a way to get people to grok ESR's "right way to ask questions" document.

(But tailored to SE)

Journeyman Geek

lol

I think that was in our docs for... years?

forest distrusts StackExchange

Dunno. Only problem with it is that it focuses on asking questions in general.

So it goes into detail about how to ask on IRC, which is pointless here.

And only has a small paragraph or two describing Q&A sites.

Journeyman Geek

Well - its both a artifact of its time, and ESR isn't a Q&A SME

forest distrusts StackExchange

12:30 AM

SME?

Journeyman Geek

... overloaded acronymn, my apologies

Subject Matter Expert

forest distrusts StackExchange

I think it's held up over time extremely well, although it does go a little heavy on older resources (info on Q&A sites should be tripled. Info on Usenet, halved).

Journeyman Geek

(as opposed to small and medium enterprise)

@forestdistrustsStackExchange .... is there useful non legacy info on usenet?

forest distrusts StackExchange

Yeah but it's mostly niche stuff.

Journeyman Geek

ah

forest distrusts StackExchange

12:32 AM

Other than that it's just bins. Thank Eternal September... And Google Groups...

Journeyman Geek

Its before my time, internetwise

forest distrusts StackExchange

I never expected you to be a youngling!

Journeyman Geek

I kinda went from the 'local' teletext service to lynx(for a few months) to proper internet

@forestdistrustsStackExchange 38, going on 39

Well less that than the internet developed differently

forest distrusts StackExchange

ah

Journeyman Geek

We never really had BBSes and usenet

We had teleview

(not for long)

then we basically went straight to internet (on dialup)

We were also generally.... well slow in upgrading kit, and we never had consoles so I missed big chunks of computing history

(XT -> 486 -> PII -> buncha PIVs, -> c2d -> Core i5 sandy bridge)

forest distrusts StackExchange

12:43 AM

In where, Singapore?

Journeyman Geek

teleview? yeah

it was a singapore only service

the other "we" is probably mostly my family :D

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek Unrelated, but how can I use a fixed font for only certain portions of a comment in chat with multiple breaks?

It seems if I do the typical four leading spaces, it only works if everything is fixed font.

Example:

This should not be fixed font (no spaces).

This should be fixed font (four spaces).

`This should be fixed font (backticks).`

Journeyman Geek

I don't think you can

forest distrusts StackExchange

huh

Journeyman Geek

fixed font is supported

Oh wait

This should not be fixed font
`this should be fixed font`
My shoes are made of spoo

Apparently fixed font breaks on multiline?

but you can just do it as a separate line

which feels almost like a bug

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

12:52 AM

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Q: Markdown in chat fails for multi-line messages

We've come to rename Markdown to Letdown in the C++ chat room because it lets you down so often. I've now just found a pattern. It seems markdown fails for multi-line messages. That is, this Letdown can't cope with multi-line comments. Let's see code? fails to display code marked as code, while...

bug status-bydesign markdown chat

@JourneymanGeek It's intentional

Journeyman Geek

tldr. TYPE FAST

also ugh

I wish we could beg for a quarter for chat refurb from corporate

forest distrusts StackExchange

I know I can do multiline fixed font if the entire comment is fixed font.

Like this.

And this.

9

A: Markdown in chat fails for multi-line messages

We now support multi-line quotes in chat, but the rest of markdown is still disabled for multi-line messages.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog So it's no longer intended to be like that.

(That post is an update from 2013)

Journeyman Geek

"but the rest of markdown is still disabled for multi-line messages."

forest distrusts StackExchange

Well yeah, rest of markdown would include a bunch of things other than fixed font.

E.g. ##headers and --- separators.

Journeyman Geek

fixed font is ~~people~~ markdown

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:00 AM

Oh derp, for some reason I thought he said multi-line fixed font, not multi-line quotes.

test 0
> test 1
test 2
> test 3

Huh, well they didn't do that right either.

Journeyman Geek

lol

forest distrusts StackExchange

Hm, I think Glorofindel's bot is broken. It's replacing non-broken links:

security.stackexchange.com/revisions/176169/10

It just replaced links to ietf.org with web.archive.org links

Maybe because they do a 302 redirect? But not to the Web Archive...

@JourneymanGeek Could you super-ping him?

Journeyman Geek

@Glorfindel ^

@forestdistrustsStackExchange was in the process of that, actually

Journeyman Geek

2:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek test

hm. not what I remember but it'll do

Kevin B

hmm

Journeyman Geek

2:35 AM

(was looking for the old SE chat reply helper - which would let you reply to stuff by hitting up)

Kevin B

🤔

Journeyman Geek

apparently its gone :( - there's another chat helper script that kinda works

Kevin B

my up arrow edits my previous message

forest distrusts StackExchange

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Q: Outdated Accepted Answers: flagging exercise has begun

As I mentioned last month, the next step in the Outdated Answers initiative is an exercise for flagging outdated answers. Starting May 13, you may see temporary prompts on Stack Overflow that ask if an answer is outdated. The prompts have a chance to appear when the accepted answer is at least 60...

discussion product-discovery featured answers answer-quality

This is interesting.

I think this is a great step in the direction of ensuring answers are still relevant.

Even if it appears to only be on SO (?)

Journeyman Geek

2:50 AM

@forestdistrustsStackExchange Well - "charitably" they have been around the longest and have the most volume. Any issues is writ large for them

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

3:04 AM

@JNat Cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/18580621/dainik-hashtag

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek Yeah that makes sense. Those specific flag reasons would not be nearly as useful on the majority of other SE sites. But it's wonderful on SO.

Journeyman Geek

3:41 AM

@KevinB my bad. I mean : up

This is Ctrl up r

Glorfindel

5:52 AM

@forestdistrustsStackExchange thanks for letting me know, I'll have a look at what's wrong. Sometimes a page behaves differently if a bot crawls it, and I'll have to treat it specially. I can't remember ietf.org being special though, but perhaps it's the first time (that the bot encounters it, or that somebody notices the wrong replacements). I do expect a changed link, but to datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7231#section-5

FWIW you can also ping me with a comment on that post, because I edited it.

Oh wait, it does change that to datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7231#section-5 - at least my unit tests indicate so. That means the site must have been down when the bot was active :)

Luuklag

6:58 AM

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/19649226/…

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21318077/josephine-dsouza?tab=accounts

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21271890/kannam-prasad?tab=accounts

rene

7:50 AM

→ 14 messages moved to Chimney

→ 113 messages moved to Chimney

SPArcheon

@DavidPostill Nonono, you got that reversed. Actually, it is the StackExchange mods that have a Cutie Mark... Basically, every mod is one third Rarity.

Rob

9:03 AM

^^^ Not onboarded, outboarded.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

9:26 AM

@BabaYaga oh, OK.

Yet another grand project that is going to waste so much time.

rene

9:41 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard no, homework is off-topic that is why I said before you post you need to do all these things. I assume they figure out that if they do those things the end-result will become part of their question, not just a desk exercise.

gnat

@rene FWIW that (now deleted) question at MSE you recently commented at, it seems to be reposted from Stack Oberflow

rene

uuugghhh

and they got plenty advice on that one already ...

Tinkeringbell

@gnat Uhoh. Someone's having a stuffed nose. Go get tested for Covid ;)

rene

I guess reddit is a better venue for them

Luuklag

@rene or the library for a textbook

Tinkeringbell

9:48 AM

Those are reopening today, aren't they? :D

Luuklag

Yeah I think so

rene

@Luuklag nope, no one in the library will do their homework.

Tinkeringbell

@rene Don't be too sure of that! Many libraries offer help with all sorts of things :P

rene

It has been a while since I set foot inside a library ..

Tinkeringbell

Same here, but ours has been doing that for ages. And it's only getting 'worse', since the library over here has become more and more of a 'community point'.

gnat

9:57 AM

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Q: Let's help askers who are trying to circumvent question block at Stack Overflow

If a first time asker has an SO account that was recently (say, within a week) question blocked over there, how about showing them a warning like this: Wait! You've recently been blocked at Stack Overflow. Consider that quality requirements at Software Engineering are similar. Note that Stack...

feature-request stackoverflow asking-questions post-ban new-users

JNat

@Luuklag gone

Tinkeringbell

@gnat Good one. From the mod side of things: A way to see if people are question banned on other sites might be good as well. We can see it if people are abusing our sites because they're suspended on another, having a similar mechanism for quality bans would be useful as well, so people leaving comments can tailor them.

JNat

@Luuklag gone

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

@Luuklag gone

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:14 AM

@rene that OP is beyond any hope, they just copy and paste their assignments, not bothering to do anything on their own even one bit. They deserve no help, if you ask me as it's pure waste of time.

I mean we can try, sure! But they just won't listen.

gnat

@Tinkeringbell sure thing. Mods already can see in user history when they were shown existing block and warning messages at the site so it would be only natural that yet another kind of such warnings would be visible to mods

Tinkeringbell

@gnat To be fair, past blocks aren't easily discovered. I know of one user that was 'blocked from asking' until recently... yet when I look at the profile, I see no record of it :|

But I was more thinking along lines of 'MSE has a mod-message template for warning/suspending users that are quality banned on SO asking their questions here and no one ever gets to use it' XD

Just because there's no way to check for me if someone is just lost (and I should encourage them to write a better post on the appropriate site) or currently post-banned/rate-limited on that site. Sure, I can see it if they're suspended, just like any other user. I would think a post ban should show up similar like a suspension, and perhaps not just for mods but for all users.

Because moderators aren't the only ones that have to think about these things when writing comments (or flagging, or voting...)

It's just wishful thinking anyways, since those bans are calculated on the fly.

Journeyman Geek

10:52 AM

@Tinkeringbell I think its from when we had the CMs do the moderation here

rene

Can't you just ping ChrisF and call it a day?

gnat

@Tinkeringbell it's hard to discover is only because you (fortunately) have insufficient practice. At MSO, when one of the almost-daily complaints about question ban is posted, it takes, like, 5 minutes for some moderator to pop up with comment, "you have shown warnings 4 times at date1, date2, date3, date4 and you have 100 deleted questions: q1, q2, q3, ..., q100"

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I know it is ;) And @rene Chris would go crazy if I did that for every lost soul I find here XD

@gnat I'll ask the SO mods how they find those warnings then. :D

Journeyman Geek

@gnat they can see all the warnings there

we can't

We can only see the warnings on our sites

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Can we really? Can you drop by the mod room, I'll drop you a link of someone that was question banned recently and you can show me where I look for those warnings?

Journeyman Geek

11:04 AM

@Tinkeringbell on meta?

Sure

Tinkeringbell

Yep

I can now confirm I learned something new :D

rene

A+

10 met een griffel en een plakplaatje

Tinkeringbell

No lolly?

Useless :P

rene

Not healthy

Tinkeringbell

Ugh. You're right though.

rene

11:14 AM

If lollies are on the table, at a minimum they should be fair-trade

Tinkeringbell

How does being fair-trade make them healthier? XD

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:00 PM

@Tinkeringbell pop

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard goes the weasel...

gnat

@JourneymanGeek the warning we discussed would be local to the target site - ie to the site where user attempted to circumvent their Stack Overflow ban. As such it would "belong" to target site moderators, just like all other warnings shown to users at target site. No need to load SO mods with details of where else their banned users attempted to ask

Journeyman Geek

@gnat which would reveal a bunch of SO specific info to us...

You do realise we can just suspend them for doing it here right? :D

Meta Andrew T.

Good to know that "post quality ban" warning is already fixed...!

9

A: Post ban warning not showing up

This will be fixed in the next build. This was a missed requirement when we built the new question asking form. The input element that records it was shown was left in but the message was never rendered, hence the confusion. As a dev on the project this was my fault, so I'm sorry for any proble...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:22 PM

@MetaAndrewT. in one word.... Brianned!

rene

also: broken since September 2019 on SO main ...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@rene meh

Meta Andrew T.

welp, we should have tried getting ourselves question banned since then...

Spevacus

Yeah that's... Quite a long time. It makes all the comments that people sent to long-since deleted "How do I get out of a question ban? I didn't see this coming at all!" meta posts feel, in retrospect, really stupid. :(

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Like anyone ever read it anyway. ;)

@Spevacus reminds me of kid yelling "Look! Dragon!" and you go "Nah, there are no dragons" and never bother to check.... only that the kid actually saw a dragon. :P

rene

12:27 PM

I just had too many cases where users went: Nope, not seen a warning when the mods could see a warning should have been shown to them.

Meta Andrew T.

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I thought the kid was the dragon?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@MetaAndrewT. the dragon is inside

Meta Andrew T.

Dragon Inside™

Spevacus

@rene Yeah that feels really bad. :/

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Found the dragon inside @rene

Meta Andrew T.

12:33 PM

looks like... a scared cat :/

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

lol

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

Okay, so weird situation: A user said they accidentally gave me a 100 rep bounty, that they intended to give it to another answerer. They asked me to give a 50 bounty to the answerer, and I thought "sure!". But the minimum amount for bounties on that same question is 100 rep. Is it okay to offer the bounty on another question where the answerer provided an answer, just to give the bounty?

Journeyman Geek

@AnnZenat1YearAnniversary The minimum on the question should be 200

and the whole situation feels fishy

@AnnZenat1YearAnniversary bounties for the reason of "transferring rep" is frowned upon

SPArcheon

rep whitewashing: the new frontier of sockpupettery.

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

0

Q: Find string between two substrings, in a stream of data

I have this continuous serial data stream: ---------------------------------------- SENSOR COORDINATE = 0 MEASURED RESISTANCE = 3.70 kOhm ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- SENSOR COORDINATE = 1 MEASURED RESISTANCE ...

python python-3.x regex string split

Journeyman Geek

12:42 PM

that wierd

AH!

582

Q: How does the bounty system work?

It's possible to offer and award bounties of reputation on questions. What is a bounty? How can I find questions that have a bounty attached? How do I start a bounty? When can I start a bounty? Why is the system requiring me to choose a bounty amount that's higher than the minimum? Can I use Ma...

support faq bounties

> If you have already answered the question before, the minimum bounty offer is 100.
> If you have already offered a bounty on the question before, the minimum offer is double your last offer (see below).

@AnnZenat1YearAnniversary hence the minimum being 100

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

@JourneymanGeek ohhh

Journeyman Geek

I really would suggest clearing it with the local mods cause its... a bit unusual

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

@JourneymanGeek I see. Via a flag?

Journeyman Geek

That might work

No 'mod chat' ?

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

@JourneymanGeek Um, I know some chat rooms where mods hang out...

gnat

12:48 PM

@JourneymanGeek so what? This is not PII (which mods can access anyway since we talk about users posting at their sites). And moderators get this SO specific info anyway when system blocks their attempts to migrate question back to the site where user is banned. Heck, at sites with migration options in close dialog these details are easy to obtain even for regular non-diamond users

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

But not any formal/official mod rooms.

Journeyman Geek

\o/ orrrr we let them do it twice then suspend them

rene

@JourneymanGeek Nope, they couldn't prevent that room from freezing

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

No don't involve mods, I see nothing fishy here.

Honest mistake. @Journeyman @Ann

Spevacus

@AnnZenat1YearAnniversary Yeah this seems like something chat would be better for. A flag seems a little awkward, and a meta post seems like you'd be going a bit further than necessary.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:49 PM

My advise is just ignore and move on.

That user made a mistake, it's on him. Not your fault, you don't have to waste time over other people's mistakes.

Spevacus

Take the rep and run ;)

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

Thank you for your advice.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Ann but if you really want to be fair while not harming the bounty system integrity, this answer looks good and might deserve +100 bounty anyway:

0

A: Pandas indexed Series Subset (of a DataFrame) not changing values

Although @Henry Ecker's answer is very elegant, it is very slow compared to what I have done (over 10x slower), so I would like to go ahead with my implementation fixed My implementation fixed as per Henry Ecker's suggestion df.loc["cons",date] = cons.to_numpy() dates = list(df.columns) dates.rem...

Up to you, I don't see it as any form of abuse. I also gave bounties in the past after looking on purpose for useful answers from certain user(s).

SPArcheon

@JourneymanGeek Next, on SO: "Nigerian prince need your help to receive 1kkk rep on a site they don't have account for. Just pay a 1000rep bounty in advance to account xyz"

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Good idea. I'll see if I can find more info first :)

Journeyman Geek

1:03 PM

lol

I wasn't thinking of rep laundering... :D

Luuklag

1:22 PM

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21651043/az-in-seo?tab=accounts

JNat

@Luuklag gone

Luuklag

Hah my inbox was Jnatified ;)

had some backlog to clear ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

2:00 PM

Rockets arrived to north of Israel too... @Mith you OK?

@Luuklag not JNatted? ;)

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard hmmmm could work as well

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

:D

!!/JNat Luuk

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No such command 'jnat'.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

:(

Luuklag

How long till Yaakov gets back to work btw? I was thinking his leave should be about done by now right?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

2:01 PM

@Luuklag think he's back

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I'm talking to them elsewhere so... they're ok

Luuklag

Just look at his twitter, looks like he lives close to gaza

must be rough

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag indeed, so probably got extra week or two of leave.

Hard to concentrate with missiles flying over your head.

@JourneymanGeek :)

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard and without propper night rests

@SPArcheon whitewashing and nigerian princes, dubious connection there....

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag yeah, this too

Feeds

2:09 PM

Using Kubernetes to rethink your system architecture and ease technical debt

Ryan Donovan on May 19, 2021

This is a story about trying to rethink complex systems: the challenges you face when you try to rebuild them, the burdens you face as they grow, and how inaction itself can cause it’s own problems. When you’re weighing the risk and reward of replacing architecture, it can take several attempts to find a solution that works for you.

rene

You had a system architecture, you added KBS, now you have containered all your problems ....

Luuklag

@rene containers can be placed at the roadside for wastecollection ;)

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag But since we now have to pay each time they're collected, try to make sure you stuff em as full as possible so they don't need to go that often.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell I see a market for home trash compactors

rene

Yeah ... I have these underground things. Hate it when it doesn't fit through the door

Journeyman Geek

2:14 PM

@rene roots?

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I've seriously spotted a dedicated wooden post in our neighbor's shed already :D

But our neighbors are kinda weird people anyways.

Luuklag

@JourneymanGeek underground containers, which you open with a creditcard like thing

We have the same for the non-recycleables

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag ._.

Luuklag

At the start they had large opening, now they welded metal plates in them, so their only half as big, a long 30L bag hardly fits in it now.

Journeyman Geek

._.

Luuklag

2:17 PM

while they are supposed to take 30L bags

Journeyman Geek

that sounds kinda skeevy

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek It basically is.

My brother had the same, they reduced the sizes of what the containers take from 60L to 30.

Journeyman Geek

we uh

Have a little door in the wall...

Tinkeringbell

Basically: You have to pay us, and we're making really, really sure you can't just stuff your bag really full.

(trashbags usually stretch a little :P)

Journeyman Geek

the new place has 'common' ones but... they use vaccums and stuff for auto collection. Current place has people picking it up on golf card pickups

Tinkeringbell

2:23 PM

I'm hoping I get trash cans... but now that I think about it, I don't actually know what the new place is going to be like.

Mithical

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard yeah

Binging TV on base, to be perfectly honest

user1271772

@rene how many people here use Kubernetes?

I guess that's a question for everyone, but I was replying to what rene said.

Journeyman Geek

@user1271772 the big joke is...
SE uses it

And they haven't done a write up on their systems a while :(

Luuklag

2:38 PM

@Tinkeringbell You're going to be in an appartement right?

then most likely no containers for you

user1271772

That is a bit funny indeed!

Luuklag

@JourneymanGeek your going to move?

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag sigh

Was supposed to be 2022

its officially 2023 now but its been pushed back further

Spevacus

:(

Luuklag

wow, thats some serious delays

what caused that?

rene

2:40 PM

@Luuklag right, you just drop them from the balcony?

Journeyman Geek

Our construction workforce is mainly from china and india

so.. we're having a massive shortage, especially as many of the outbreaks happen in worker dorms.

Luuklag

@rene you could try, but you might piss off some neighbours

@JourneymanGeek its social hugging in those most likely, compared to distancing ;)

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag naw, people in smallish rooms, lowest bidders...

Not a particularly good year for me, and 2019 and 2020 weren't cakewalks either :D

user1271772

When I lived in an HDB apartment in Singapore there was a strict limit to the number of people that an apartment could be rented to, but apparently they didn't care so much about the fact that construction workers coming from other countries were sometimes cramped such that 8 people were sleeping in a room.. there's documentaries about it.

Documentaries about the conditions of migrant workers

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag also they're built in a wierd way - they announce they're building a new public housing development, you ballot and get a place and then they build it

user1271772

2:48 PM

I recall there being penalties for people not wearing seatbelts, or cars having more people sitting in them than the number of proper seats, but around the NTU campus we'd see pick-up trucks with a multitude of migrant construction workers sitting in the back of the truck with no seatbelts!

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag Yes, but on the other hand it's only going to be two-storied one, so there's still a tiny chance? XD

Journeyman Geek

@user1271772 its 'legal'

and dumb

@Tinkeringbell if all else fails... get a trebuchet.

5

Tinkeringbell

Oh well, I don't make that much mess anyways.

Luuklag

3:15 PM

@Tinkeringbell maybe you can convince the covidiot this way: thebestsocial.media/nl/advertorial-logitechg

Luuklag

3:31 PM

@Tinkeringbell Are you going to have a shed or a patch of garden?

Tinkeringbell

3:59 PM

@Luuklag Both :)

@Luuklag Blegh, marketing.

ymb1

4:19 PM

0

Q: At least apostrophes now do not 'always' preview correctly when an internal link is used

Link to submitted post I searched and I do not think it was reported. When an internal link is used, at least (possibly other characters are impacted) apostrophes now do not render properly in the preview (they used to) – the final result after submitting is correct though. Edit: for some reas...

bug markdown-preview internal-links

after submitting question, I can't repro, do I delete?

for now I added not always to the title

Tinkeringbell

norepro here as well... but I don't know if that means delete or leave it.

You have a screenshot of it happening, so... 'not always' seems sufficient to me now.

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell i was hinting to #11 specifically

Tinkeringbell

Still. It was made for the sole purpose of marketing, so now i hate it :)

ymb1

@Tinkeringbell copy thanks

Feeds

5:15 PM

In Dimensional Chess, every move is annotated '?!'.

Rob

5:32 PM

Space shogi

Space shogi is a three-dimensional shogi variant invented by George R. Dekle Sr. in 1987. The gamespace comprises nine 9×9 shogi boards stacked vertically. Each player controls a standard set of shogi pieces. Space shogi was included in World Game Review No. 10 edited by Michael Keller. == Game rules == Space shogi follows standard shogi conventions, including the same types and numbers of pieces, and a similar initial setup. All the normal shogi rules apply, including drops, promotion, check, checkmate, and impasse. But pieces have the freedom of three-dimensional movement. === Startin...

Kevin B

6:01 PM

i wonder how accurate that image is

John Dvorak

6:24 PM

@KevinB it's an artist's conception

Rob

6:42 PM

They've certainly taken some liberties over the original Shog eye design:

Luuklag

7:08 PM

@Rob where did you find this?

Luuklag

7:18 PM

hmmm why can't I vote to delete this:

-2

Q: Does Hive any ambition towards goals outside of the digital world?

There is no digital currency right now, fluctuation on a crypto is too high to be a currency. What direction is been taken on bringing HBD to a currency?

discussion

It's closed, and negatively scored

Spevacus

@Luuklag Needs to be at -3.

Luuklag

hmmm now I can, does it have to be -3

haha yup, it has to be

Spevacus

You only need a negative score for answers, -3 for questions closed less than 48 hours ago.

@Luuklag Tbh, this looks like a reaaaaally bad spam attempt.

No payload, awful english, but the username being "TheHive" is suspicious to me.

Luuklag

Lets just delete it, its so bad at spamming I don't care much

Spevacus

Parrot ate it. /o/

Tinkeringbell

7:28 PM

Buuuuuuurp

Luuklag

@Spevacus parrot is always hungry

Kevin B

🚽

Tinkeringbell

Dude, give me some to digest properly first!

Spevacus

🥡

Luuklag

@Spevacus is that biowaste?

Spevacus

7:30 PM

It's apparently takeout. Difficult to tell with the size.

Tinkeringbell

biowaste... gee, thanks.

Luuklag

Theres more for you to eat on the frontpage Tink

Spevacus

🥐 ?

Luuklag

@Spevacus if thats what SSL tastes like

Tinkeringbell

Blegh. I hate those posts that require me to turn my scroll wheel more than once.

Just to get to the buttons.

Spevacus

7:37 PM

Turn on keyboard shortcuts and hit m -> d -> enter :)

Luuklag

We should have like a ctrl + downarrow thing here

to go to the end of a post

Just like Excel has to go to the end of the active range

Spevacus

Pressing the End key takes you to the bottom of the page, but if the question's not closed you'll have an answer textbox in your face :/

Kevin B

i mean

adblock the answer textbox

Spevacus

And the upvote button?

Kevin B

well no, the upvote button isn't in the way

Luuklag

7:42 PM

@Spevacus If only the footer wasn't half a screen high

And there would be 0 comments

Kevin B

i mean

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Luuklag

8:01 PM

hey cool, I'm exactly at 50 silver badges

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

10:05 PM

I think I was at exactly 10/80/200 badges at one point before...

Kevin B

10:25 PM

i had one gold badge once

forest distrusts StackExchange

I don't think I've ever had a gold tag badge.

Rob

11:05 PM

You'll have a silver one for Linux when the script runs: security.stackexchange.com/… then there was two security.stackexchange.com/help/badges/1248/linux

forest distrusts StackExchange

11:59 PM

Silver doesn't get you anything though.

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