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2:00 PM
@JohnDvorak browser extension... same thing. Something you need to install.
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе Meh, okay. I wouldn't mind letting people filter out stuff either, if only because that means I don't have to listen to them being upset they have to see it. What is and isn't objectification is also rather subjective....
weeeell, you could use a bookmarklet instead
Still, it's like bringing a plate from home to a restaurant. You expect the restaurant to give you the plate.
@Tinkeringbell Well. since you mentioned it, I would also add that Cyberpunk 2077 is still CD Projekt. The ones that though it was fun to have a "love cards" collection in the Witcher 1. An then, since they "learned it was bad and objectifying females" decided that it would be good to start Witcher 3 with a close up of .... google it. Will just say it was then censored in many countries.
And that is not mentioning that "easter egg" someone found in a locked off house.
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе If you want to be realistic: all game personas are objectification, as they're all not real but just objects in a game.
2:02 PM
Only visit happyclicks.net and not the rest of the Internet.
Stop playing games then ;)
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе I don't remember the start of Witcher 3 being controversial in any way
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе this?
@Tinkeringbell if you are really going to compare well written and competent female characters to the original representation of Miss Lara Croft
First result for "Witcher 3 closeup"
2:04 PM
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе Sure, and let's compare those to Freddi Fish.
It's all as fake as the talking fish.
Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe is clean and doesn't obje... hold on. It does objectify people, treating them as nothing but cargo produced and consumed by cities. Oops!
Just some people like playing with talking fish, and others with original Miss Lara Croft, and others need something that fits their description of 'well written and competent'.
@JohnDvorak Rollercoaster Tycoon was absolutly horrid too, the way it allowed you to use human visitors merely as objects you needed to collect and/or abuse to reach your goals!
@Rob bit late, thanks!
@Tinkeringbell ah, the good ole cheap drinks long ride overpriced WCs combo. Those were the days.
@JohnDvorak Don't forget the 'make the rollercoaster crash but outside the park so the deaths don't bring down park ratings'
2:07 PM
... wait, what?
Oh my god I loved Roller Coaster Tycoon. Even after I got bored killing the guests.
Those high rides were always good for chucking stuff and snot rockets too.
Anyways, my go-to trick for OTTD is to pick two big cities at the opposite corners of the map, and set up an airline. Instant cash.
@JohnDvorak I don't actually know if it works, but I saw it stated somewhere once.
I should fire up the game tonight and try.
It's honestly a fun and challenging game to try and complete in its entirety. I never did because it takes quite awhile but hey.
2:11 PM
More amusement park ride etiquette:
2 days ago, by Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Snow they shoot turds at you? :D
@Spevacus It is! It didn't help that as kids, we only had the English language version so naturally we sucked (we couldn't understand any of the game prompts). As I grew older, I got better at it and at Zoo Tycoon too. Though I also never took the time to actually go past the first five or ten scenario's, as that takes too long :)
I revisited the game around 4 or so years ago. It holds up surprisingly well in comparison to "* - tycoon/simulator" games today, not that I'm overly active in the genre.
RCT Deluxe is also like... 3 bucks on steam, so there's that.
RCT2 was for free for a while on steam. I got it legally then
There is OpenRCT, but it needs the original files
2:18 PM
I played SimCity in the distant past, always wondered why my buildings are burning.
And even more, why those buildings still get people in them. :D
Ohh, we had simcity too! Again, in English so I never really learned how to play it correctly. My buildings weren't really burning though, not that I can remember... just endless struggles with water, electricity, and then people hated the water and power plants...
Now, if you want something a little more challenging, try Dwarf Fortress
I've heard bad things about that game ;)
If only I had time
free, incredibly detailed, and unless you're an absolute pro, things will tend to fall apart pretty soon - and that's the best part of the game :D
@Shadow10YearsWizard We had a later version I think. Simcity 2/3000?
@Tinkeringbell 2000, yeah, with aliens.
I played the original...
@JohnDvorak yup, alien
Yeah that looks more familiar :)
2:25 PM
those good old graphics
VGA rules! :D
This reminds me, didn't play Golden Axe with my kids for long time.
Duel is boring, and the Arqade takes too long...
anyone remember the good old GTA
Wasn't allowed here, too violent :)
We had lego racers instead :D
good call
Wasn't my call! :P
2:30 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard give them the ZX Spectrum port of Gladiator.... and tell them they get a prize if they beat it. Should keep them busy for a while.
I wonder why we're creating the Trivia tag ...
HMMM They are at it again...
@Tinkeringbell what?! You mean country banned a video game? Why not must stick PG18 on it, and let people buy it?
2:37 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard probably their parents
Or do you mean not allowed by your parents?
@Spevacus I think it can do with statistics and fun instead of trivia? Most other questions already use those, and it would save retagging.
@Luuklag great minds..... ;)
@Shadow10YearsWizard Yeah just parents :P
oh lol
"here" can have so many meanings. :D
2:38 PM
@Tinkeringbell [helpful-flags] [fun] [statistics] [meta ] maybe?
Darn magic links breaking my immersion...
meta having a meta tag, that's borderline inception
@Spevacus I did the statistics/fun already, have at it with the rest :D
(I can edit the edit comment, so I added some explanation for the statistics/fun tags).
That would be a great background graphic for Meta, the 'Inception World' image; in the intro.
@Shadow10YearsWizard True, it wasn't my most clear message ever ;)
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе no no, it's not boring because they're good at it, lol. Golden Axe let me help them, so it's playable... but in general when they lose in a PC game, they can become really upset. :/
2:40 PM
@Tinkeringbell Eh, looks fine to me. I don't stress the details too much ;D
Yay! I did at least one useful thing today :D
@Shadow10YearsWizard I wasn't suggesting that because they are good at Golden Axe... the reason is somewhere else.
Let's just say that challenge I mentioned could be a GREAT time-sink
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе this too isn't the goal... we have limited time.
@Sha Whosover wieldeth this hammer, should they be worthy, shall haveth the power...
Yeah it's 100% dupe case.
2:43 PM
Also self-deleted.
@Shadow10YearsWizard and that wouldn't be something YOU would want to try. It is something you would tell THEM to try... to get some free-time :P
Need an off-topic hammer, honestly...
When's that network-wide 3 close vote threshold change coming ;_;
@Spevacus at your service ;)
2:48 PM
Diamonds are overpowered.
Can a diamond delete this Q, as I can't as its used as useless dupe target: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/157776/…
Why is it useless?
@JohnDvorak I feel threatened somehow.
As there are similar questions with the same wording
And it also sports the old dupe banner, so instead of fixing that, its better removed
@Luuklag I can reopen, but not close, as I've already voted to close it. :/
But I'm against deleting dupes.
2:54 PM
@Luuklag Well, a mod will also first have to untangle the duplicates ;)
We can't delete that either.
@Tinkeringbell yeah that was mostly my point, so don't bother then
:D Okay, I'll forget it exists ;)
Per OP request, would someone consider adding this question to the duplicate list in the banner?
I really only vote to delete dupes that have either been asked a million times or the comments are a complete trainwreck... What comes to mind, immediately, are the mod-abuse rants and the "why are downvotes mean" q's, and what have you.
Truly, "no lasting value".
Ryan Donovan on December 14, 2020
In order to respond to threats, device designers must remotely update, which if implemented poorly, can provide another vector for attacks. In this post, dig into specifics related specifically to the over-the-air (OTA) software update framework in an enterprise setting.
3:11 PM
btw anyone knows what this Jerusalema challenge is, with that annoying song
Can't listen more then an hour to the radio without hearing it
@Luuklag It looks like what the "Up Next" says: Make a dance video with the song - example: youtube.com/watch?v=TH4V-yHbJXk or youtube.com/watch?v=euOJw3v7R6w
@Rob Yeah but what would be the point of it
like the icebucket challenge, I get that, raise awareness and money
but here....?
It's a big deal, for them.
@JohnDvorak Well, someone tried I guess, they just missed the part about English SE! i.sstatic.net/yPiVK.png#.png
@Luuklag same as the point of all those silly "challenges": nothing. Kill time. Getting something to do when totally bored.
@Tinkeringbell LOL! Where was it posted?
3:20 PM
IPS :)
@Luuklag nah, maybe very few of the first celebs who did it had such goal in mind, right after the goal "get some more attention and followers", but all the rest? No way they had any real goal behind it apart "let's do this silly thing [name here] just did, no idea why."
yeah so just pointless as I thought.
Hope this "trend" ends soon...
@Luuklag Well, your fault because you still listen to radio in 2020. :D
Radio, cinema, TV channels... all won't exist sooner or later.
While you were all slacking, I had something yummy to eat!
drop and milk?
Literal translation is "pillows", LOL
It looks like drop :D
Let me see what it really is...
It is drop.
3:29 PM
Can't find English source, here's the package:
Well, it's cereals. With chocolate flavor. :D
It's chocolate-vanilla cereal puffs.
puff! That's the word. lol
@Mithical you also eat it sometimes?
@Luuklag It's been going for at least 20 years, so not ending anytime soon.
@Shadow10YearsWizard no, but I know what they are
@Mithical oh, fair enough. :)
3:32 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard Got coal for Christmas?
@Rob tasty coal
Actually, co-worker brought it to work.
Been a while since I bought such thing myself, I ate way too much for a while so I stopped.
It's a thing.
4:09 PM
In the meantime, in another room, somepony was discussing their evil plan...
in Not a bar, but plays one on TV on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 38 mins ago, by Derpy
> The ZX Spectrum port of Great Gurianos used up so much memory that there was no room to include the ending. Dave Perry was forced to make the final boss undefeatable
4:22 PM
^ @Shadow10YearsWizard whistles
@RyanM, @Spe, that question was reopened if there's another answer regarding who/why can we see closers sometimes but not others.
Hmm. Aside from potentially mentioning that questions closed as dupes will redirect you to the dupe target if you're not logged in, I'm not sure there's much more that can be mentioned there.
4:42 PM
@Ollie actually it's this one: meta.stackexchange.com/q/255959/295232
5:31 PM
.... am I mistaken or for once Winter Bash starts at midnight UTC?
I'm not receiving inbox notifications when my questions are closed.
For instance, on this one, it was closed, and I searched my inbox for the note, comparing the exact times, and there was nothing.
It's possible that it's different because it was closed as a duplicate, and you already get a notification from the auto-comment when someone votes to close as a dupe/flags as a dupe.
The philosophy being, there's no notification needed because your question's already been asked (and possibly answered, when it comes to Meta) before. There is one needed when it comes to any other close reason, because that means there is something significantly wrong with your post; significant enough that deletion is now on the table.
@Journeyman Does stackexchange.com use MoonSpeak?
No idea
I don't work here :D
I'm trying to change that, but its slow going
5:47 PM
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе the last few all have.
@JourneymanGeek Cheering you on.
First canine on staff.
@Ollie lol. I've applied twice before
(I also have an application at AWS that hasn't been rejected yet, and apparently was passed on to a hiring manager, so hopefully one of those pans out soon. I'm not happy at my current job)
I wish you luck, btw. On both attempts at a new job.
5:52 PM
but especially here.
/o/ Get it
6:04 PM
Well, we're not at the part where its in my hands :D
@Spevacus I wouldn't be too mad if I didn't get this round of CM hires
but I'm deeply unhappy at how long the process is taking in general
): I wonder how rough the transition from hired -> first day of work is as well.
@Spevacus tbh, If I did get hired, I'd immediately give notice (and that's a month) and plan for a week or two off
wouldn't be that bad
(either place)
Do you have any other places you've applied to/been looking at?
well, AWS got in touch
so that's a possibility
they're in the early part of the process tho
other than that, I'll probably be fireing off my annual google application
I have the 'option' of converting to a permanant staff here, and while the pay isn't always great, my current contracting firm is pretty good with finding openings.
so there's irons in the fire
Yeah you're lookin' pretty alright right now.
6:11 PM
that said
this job is stable, but I could make more money, and probably have better types of stress elsewhere :D
but this place is kinda the one where in theory, I can but don't really feel comfortable pushing, and the general hiring of folks matters to me.
And I'd really like to see butts on the CM seats in the new year
at the same time, I don't want to feel like I'm pushing for, or seen to be pushing for myself
The SO icon in the Meta newsletter looks a bit sad. Is that by design?
@Spevacus I thought you reopened it for some reason, rather than none; not sure we're looking at the same thing based on your reply, or was your comment right after mine about something else. There was an over an hour conversation, but as you wish ...
@Rob I voted to reopen because I didn't feel it was a true duplicate. Did you not also vote to reopen for the same reason?
6:32 PM
I assume we have a lurking parrot here ;)
It's quite possible she saw it organically, which just means... Ninja'd, I guess? :)
you'll never know :P
We'll never know ...
7:03 PM
@Spevacus Regardless, isn't what you propose is lacking here; that's not what it's about as evidenced by the bolding in the last sentence. --- We don't reopen when it's closed for the wrong reason, it's a flag instead.
I know why I reopened it, which reason you do not know; so how could that affect your decision.
@Rob It's technically not organically possible for an anonymous user to click on a duplicate question and actually see that question; they'll be automatically redirected to its dupe target, unless there's more than one dupe target or a no-redirect tag is added to the end of the URL... So it's very tangentially related, which is why I'm not keen on really adding it as an answer - it's a bit of a stretch.
Like I said before: I voted to reopen because I felt the answer to that question wasn't fully answered in the dupe target - That's all. The answer to that now-reopened question is acceptable... It's just not a dupe.
I didn't mean to jump to conclusions about what reason you chose to vote to reopen. I apologize for doing so, that wasn't right of me.
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@SonictheK-DayHedgehog handled before I got to it
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@Rob question quality aside, this doesn't strike me as spam
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@SonictheK-DayHedgehog gone, gone, and gone
@Ollie gone
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7:53 PM
and the list goes on...
@Shadow10YearsWizard Bubuza gone
@Luuklag gone
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog and gone
now back to your regularly scheduled program
But I don't want to go to bed :(
I joke, but cleaning up spammers can actually be entertaining, if not repetitive
they're so imaginative xD
I crochet. I know about the joys of repetitive things ;)
I just nuked someone trying to promote the best taxi services in the UK and the best photovoltaic panels in Pakistan!
8:00 PM
I had a few a while back that were spamming baby clothes... that was new :D
also fun when they try to come up with the most English-sounding names possible
heh, something like that, yeah ;P
@JNat And mix up last and first names
so many people complaining on meta about other sites today
poor bobson
8:04 PM
I feel more sorry for sleve
@JNat Cross-site spammer posting malware in their answers: stackexchange.com/users/20215047/mel, here's another example: electronics.stackexchange.com/users/271173/mel
Looks like I've picked up a serial voter of my own...
They're trying to take your new toys away.
9:05 PM
My inbox has been Jnatted xD
9:17 PM
@Ollie those are not cross site, just regular spammers with multiple accounts, probably unregistered. For the to be cross site they need a network profile with multiple site profiles
If it's just one profile and they only spam on one site, a mod on that particular site can destroy it. If that user has been confirmed to have spammed across more than one site, that's when a CM destruction is warranted.
Have chat tabs left open been reloading more often for other people or just me?
9:33 PM
mine hasn't reloaded in... about an hour
10:19 PM
Oh good.
11:05 PM
@JNat This report is due to hiding (not very well) yolosite in the URL; but I'll leave letting it stay with you.
The 'yolosite spammer' (more than one) bumps their post by re-editing over 2 dozen times to keep it at the top of one tab and to blow some flags away; the domain yolosite is always one of their URLs, often with a lengthy path and different subdomains.
@Luuklag Sorry, I'm pretty sure I've seen that user spamming across other sites under a different account (which has now been JNatted), but yeah, that one appears to have only Electronics...
@Ollie One way to find "Mel".
11:21 PM
@Rob Shoulda thought of that, I did the same with a waffle.
Least it tasted better.
Is there a way to bring up the "1 question with new activity" with your keyboard?
11:40 PM
F5 (sometimes)
@Splevacus It works. Thanks
Ah yeah I do owe Shadow a tea
*Takes tea away from Shadow*
I'm thirsty. sdc coffee
Just found a possible bug.
Look at this.
There are well over 15 chars in there, and it's giving me the error.
I didn't add any spaces, btw.
11:46 PM
/me hands @Ollie a bag of kibble
@JourneymanGeek *throws the bag of kibble at @Journeyman*
*feeds it to @Shadow's monkeys*
Now we know what kind of human food not to buy:
> "The pet food market is dominated by five major companies, as of 2019: Mars, Inc., Nestle Purina Petcare, J. M. Smucker, Hill's Pet Nutrition, Inc. (owned by Colgate-Palmolive), and Blue Buffalo Co. Ltd (owned by General Mills).".
Changes favorite candy bar, jam, brand of toothpaste, and cereal.
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