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12:09 AM
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8:43 AM
Does anyone else with an SEDE account that is linked to an Google account get a security warning that their connection is not secure?
Which browser are you using?
^definately a spammer
@rene no repro on vivaldi
that's the cert I have
9:31 AM
Posted a bug report
9:47 AM
When I was writing that bug report it dawned on me that I also "fixed" a returnurl in SEDE in one my latest PRs. I was afraid I was self responsible for introducing a security bug ....
10:12 AM
@rene Tried Edge Chromium and Edge Legacy, no repro in either
10:24 AM
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog hmm, weird.
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog Can you open a dev console and compare what gets send and what is returned on those calls to users/authenticate? Inspect the Locaction headers in the response. If that does show https in the returnurl then it gets really weird.
and the location header that gets returned from https://accounts.google.com/o/oauth2/auth
@rene yes, when trying to login. It redirects to data.stackexchange.com/user/oauth/google?state=... which isn't secure, so Chrome show a big warning.
Okay, so it is not just me then.
Looks like someone forgot "s" somewhere in SEDE source code.
Surely not Jeff. ;)
No, it might be a proxy change. The code itself looks fine.
That is in my bug report
If I manually change the http:// to https:// in the URL it works.
10:38 AM
@Shadow10YearsWizard it probably is on the pile of depreciated giant ones ;)
@Shadow10YearsWizard well .... yes, that also works
10:57 AM
How can I leave a SO team?
@Xnero Go to one of your teams profiles, go to 'edit profile and settings', in the left sidebar choose 'my teams', and there's a button to 'leave team' after each team.
@Tinkeringbell Thanks.
@rene can repro in chrome android
which has me confused
@JourneymanGeek why confused?
11:20 AM
@Luuklag both edgium and vivaldi are chrome folks
so either this is specific to chrome but not forks , or its specific to a build version
@Luuklag and smaller buried below...
@JourneymanGeek maybe you changed some default settings?
@Shadow10YearsWizard eh, unlikely
@JourneymanGeek or full vs mobile difference?
I'm sure I logged in y'day in SEDE without that error but maybe it is an regression due to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/357034/… ?
11:36 AM
Good morning
Are you in a different timezone?
No, just late up today ;-D
@πάνταῥεῖ good morning then! Time for a brunch ;)
Is there a detailed description, or screenshot collection, of what OP's see when their question was closed (for lower rep OPs)?
@πάνταῥεῖ this one: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/337013/… ?
11:42 AM
@rene Looks fine on a 1st glance, but turns out to be outdated it seems. I just learned that OP can't see who closed their question (unless it was a mod maybe).
@cody told so at MSO
@Luuklag maaaaybe
going to give it a shot on windows sandbox
@rene what version of chrome?
@πάνταῥεῖ this then: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/396754/…
@JourneymanGeek Version 87.0.4280.88 (Official Build) (64-bit)
ok, curiouser and curiouser
and mine is literally a fresh install so there's nothing special on mine
@rene Hmmm. Not that much of the OP's view (just that eMail example).
@πάνταῥεῖ in theory....
11:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek you have to be signed in. I get the error when the 302 responses from Google get returned. That went belly up on the response on /users/authenticate
@πάνταῥεῖ thats the case IIRC
@πάνταῥεῖ meta.stackexchange.com/users/358125/aibobot is a normal user. He has one question that you could find an excuse to close with 5 likeminded user... :D
or someone with a gold mod tag. He also has a sock master who wouldn't mind taking screenshots for science if you asked nicely
@rene ah hah!
@JourneymanGeek That exactly addresses my problem. It's hard to get those screenshots, even with a sock it is :-)
@πάνταῥεῖ :D
@πάνταῥεῖ figure out what question you need and grab someone with a gold support badge, or organise stuff here and I could work something out. Its not a very relevant question right now so a closure for science wouldn't annoy me much.
Well, that particular question of mine arose, when I wrote a comment at MSO, where a user asked why their question was closed automatically, that he should be able to see it wasn't automatically, but by three users who agreed on closing the Q.
12:02 PM
@JourneymanGeek indeed, was going to say what @rene said.
@πάνταῥεῖ the choice was made to not disclose the individual users to prevent revenge actions by new(er) users. It is described somewhere.
@Luuklag still easily visible in revisions and timeline.
Just less trivial to see.
Yeah I know ;)
Kind of like closing a door but leaving it unlocked.
12:04 PM
@Luuklag "It is described somewhere." That was my initial question here :-P
Q: New Post Notices rollout on Stack Overflow

Yaakov EllisNew Post Notices have been launched network-wide. Please post all new feedback, bugs and feature requests to the new announcement post. As has been previously announced, we have been working for some time on a full refresh for post notices. I am happy to announce that all initial development wor...

@Shadow10YearsWizard well a not so easy to find door then ;)
A: How could we improve our planned post notice improvements?

fbueckertstatus-completed Update: We've changed the post notices for question askers so that they do not see the usernames of close voters listed - this includes askers with the close/reopen vote privilege. We considered making it so that post owners with sufficient rep could still see the list, but deci...

@Luuklag A onebox of that link @rene posted a few minutes before, great!
@Shadow10YearsWizard Better, definitely better.
12:07 PM
Oneboxes are allowed here!
@πάνταῥεῖ yay! I'm better!
happy dance
sharing the joy with @M.A.R.
@rene The OB was just a minor point ...
OB is brand of something for females, no?
But it is HUGE!
The onebox I mean
Haha yeah tampons right
12:08 PM
o.b. is a brand of tampon, originally developed in Germany in 1950 and manufactured by Carl Hahn GmbH. It is now owned by Edgewell Personal Care. The product was named by the gynecologist Judith Esser-Mittag who also developed it. The initials "o.b." are an abbreviation of the German phrase "ohne Binde" ("without napkin"). == History == The idea for a tampon which could be inserted without a separate applicator was initiated in 1947 by the German auto engineer Carl Hahn and the lawyer Heinz Mittag. They wanted to introduce tampons to the German market, but the cardboard used for the applicator...
@Shadow10YearsWizard Ya know these kinda jokes don't tend to work well, don't you?
@πάνταῥεῖ depends ;)
But yeah, I still feel the burn of the one week chat ban. :D
Why would that get you banned?
@Tinkeringbell well
We were both banned after making fun of... specific female.
@rene I've heard you had some heatened discussions about one boxes at the SOCVR?
12:10 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ they really love there one boxes there!
@Shadow10YearsWizard Ah... yeah well, everyone knows you only get to make fun of specific males these days! :P
Doesn't have anything to do with tampons though ;)
@Tinkeringbell lol
@Tinkeringbell well we still have stuff specific for us...
I think?
@Shadow10YearsWizard wrong week of the month to make fun of them I guess ;)
@Luuklag each and her own week... unless you mean something else? ;)
50 minutes until I switch SSL on the prod server.
@Shadow10YearsWizard Do you now? What's your secret? :P
12:12 PM
Biggest change in the last 15 years for the client, and it will be done in less than a minute, lol.
@rene too late
@Tinkeringbell well on second thought, anything I could think of can also be used by females, so you win! :D
I sense a conspiracy theory, and that you're just refusing to tell the truth :P
@Luuklag huh? Is it valid command? checking
oh, just a comment.
We do have "naa" though to mark a report as NAA and not spam.
@Tinkeringbell you'll never know.... :D
Q: Message response options symbols intermittently not loaded on mobile chat

LuuklagWhen selecting a message on MSE chat to reply about half of the time only the flag icon loads. The other icons don't load. The buttons are there, because replying or starring a message is possible when you guesstimate the right location for the trigger.

@Shadow10YearsWizard I knew NAA worked, thought vlq did too
Fun trivia: I understood what is a tampon only after getting married.... never saw one before that, just heard people talk about it sometimes, without knowing what they talk about exactly. lol
@Luuklag nope, it's just adding a comment, like any non-command text will do.
@Shadow10YearsWizard google didn't exist in your childhood?
12:23 PM
@Luuklag nope. I had PC with some games, no internet until I was.... oh... 18? Or so.
Maybe bit before. But no Google, for sure. lol
Google was 1998, so... no, not yet. Maybe Altavista.
@Shadow10YearsWizard minesweeper and hearts ;)
@MetaAndrewT. yes! I did use it a lot.
@Luuklag yes and no... sweeped tons of mines, but no hearts.
Minesweeper, Solitaire, 3D PINBALL.
I had a floppy disk with many of those classic games.
@MetaAndrewT. yes, yes, and yes!!
12:26 PM
LSL was the cyber drug of my generation :-D
@MetaAndrewT. oh yeah pinball, that was nice!
But most of my time went on D&D games, the three Dragon Lance games.
@MetaAndrewT. Ah yeah that easter egg :-D
@Luuklag Google? How about sex ed in high school? I don't think any boy over here had to google what a tampon was: They learned in school :P
@Luuklag Yeah, I still love the music of that Space Cadet 3D Pinball until now
12:28 PM
@MetaAndrewT. The music (super mario), wasn't that how amy caught sheldon's love?
@MetaAndrewT. haha cool
@πάνταῥεῖ umm, I think I missed the reference :x
@MetaAndrewT. Big Bang Theory?
@πάνταῥεῖ ah right, not sure about the easter egg?
@Tinkeringbell Dont know how that's organised in @Shadow10YearsWizard's country
12:32 PM
@MetaAndrewT. PINBALL, it was available from some special key combination.
@Shadow10YearsWizard They do, butt we use code words so it's not so obvious.
@Luuklag Fair point.
@Tinkeringbell don't think we learned about tampons in our sex education classes... I remember it was mainly about how to be careful, use condoms, listen to the partner, etc. Tampon isn't really related to sex... well, not directly. :D
But before Pinball and Win95, there's also Win3.1 and WEP (Windows Entertainment Pack), including..... Chip's Challenge (also love the music).
@πάνταῥεῖ ooo, I see
@Shadow10YearsWizard Periods and fertility are sideways related, as is proper hygiëne...
12:34 PM
@Tinkeringbell well, might fit in biology class then.... ;)
I did know about periods, just not about how they're "handled".
@Shadow10YearsWizard I am a visual learner, but the sex ed didn't show any tools, so it just entered my left ear and swoosh outside my right ear.... until I study with Google!
@Shadow10YearsWizard I think ours was split between biology and classes in 'personal care'. The latter included learning to cook, wash windows, budgeting and periods ;)
We had co-ed classes, once the detail (singular) was revealed that was pretty much it.
@MetaAndrewT. yeah, well, I got most of my early education on those subjects from a book I read when I was 10.
And the book did have visual education as well, don't remember if actual pictures or drawings, but it surely had.
@Rob probably remembers what book I talk about.
@Tinkeringbell LOL what a mix
@Shadow10YearsWizard Heh, it's the stuff I remember. I bet there was more ;)
12:39 PM
Those were the days when the girls carried their books high up, now they swing and rock them before they have them.
Oh, I didn't have such education book... :/
@MetaAndrewT. lol it wasn't from school
@Tinkeringbell What were the boys class topics? Changing tyres, how to watch soccer in a crowd, What the best temperature for the afterwork beer is?
I don't remember how I got it, but it was totally private.
Read it at home.
@πάνταῥεῖ maybe "How to survive your first date?" :P
@πάνταῥεῖ I don't think there was any gender discrimination going on outside of gym classes at my school. Boys followed the same classes as girls. We also all had 'technic' classes where we learned about electrical stuff, basic woodcraft skills, and some other stuff ;)
Wow, woodcraft!
And she's crotcheting now :P
I reflected back and think I got it.... the book belonged to my mother's friend, he didn't know I was reading it.
This also explains why the book is gone these days.
@πάνταῥεῖ Yep! Joining rows of crochet squares into a blanket as we speak ;)
Though again, time diff..... that friend came to live with us only when I was 12 or so.... so I read it when I was 12, not 10. Still close enough, no big deal. :-)
Do we have Memory.SE where I can post "Why many of my childhood memories have a time diff of several years?"
12:46 PM
Such sensitive topics are considered "taboo" in my country, so back then my friends learnt the dark side earlier than the correct one :x
@Tinkeringbell So you're typing sideways with your crochet hook?? Wow!
You can put it down, you know, type a message, then continue :P
@MetaAndrewT. Well, I've got elder sisters, 4 (in words FOUR) of them.
@MetaAndrewT. your friends only? You didn't? ;)
Also, "dark side" means what? Experience? Trial and error? ;)
12:48 PM
@Tinkeringbell never took those classes. Might be based on what pevel of school you attended?
@Shadow10YearsWizard asking for a friend :p
@Luuklag I don't know. I did VWO, but as far as I'm aware HAVO and VMBO had the same classes.
@MetaAndrewT. rofl
@MetaAndrewT. huh, thanks! Might actually post something, it really bugs me.
(literally ;))
Now unless we want a huge "You're so uncouth" sticker from a certain pony, better change subject..... :D :D
@Tinkeringbell same here, but never had any of those classes. I do remember them being taught at VMBO. But thats probably one of those thibgs a school can decide on.
!!/coffee all people in Tavern
12:50 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Affogato for @all
Good enough
sdc tea Ollie
@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @Ollie
oh no, 9 minutes, going to login to server. Cya!
Good luck @Shadow10YearsWizard
Im going to finish sewing my daughters dress
12:54 PM
@Luuklag Nice! :D A totally new one, or repairs?
@MetaAndrewT. They must have thought some things, about you and your friend.
@Tinkeringbell new one for christmas. The dress is kinda done, but I still need to make a lace top
Sounds fancy... I wish I could sew. I see so many people making so many great things!
If you don't mind, post a picture once it's done? I'm curious now :D
Ooh, nice! Same color too, or?
12:59 PM
@Rob my friends were close :)
A bit darker blue, and the top is going to be blacj
A bit darker blue, and the top is going to be black
Hmmm are that 2 messages for you guys as well?
Or does it show up as an edited message? Edit test
Yep :)
There's 2 :)
How strange
Now editing does work
It sounds like it'll be a lovely christmas dress. She'll no doubt love it!
@Luuklag It's a glitchy thing, I think it happens when the connection is a bit slow.
@Tinkeringbell thanks
@Tinkeringbell hmmm I'm either on wifi over fiberoptics or 4G, so shouldnt be that slow
1:02 PM
blip on the server. blip
I do sometimes have it when I'm on mobile, so it's not a very new problem... but most of mine were when I was on the trains...
Done. Now we wait.
About 20 people using the client software, and must update in order to keep using it.
@Shadow10YearsWizard wait for it all to come down crashing amd burning?
I bet at least half will call ranting "It's not working!!!1!!"
1:07 PM
Is Sunday a regular workday for you btw @Shadow10YearsWizard?
@Luuklag yup, it's the beginning of our week.
Oh yeah you're from Israel right? So friday is shabath?
@Luuklag this can happen, yeah... :D
@Shadow10YearsWizard Have you tried turning it off and on again?
@Luuklag Israel yes, and Friday is Friday, our Shabath starts in Friday evening, yes.
Jewish calendar is based on the moon.
1:10 PM
So you have a 5,5 day workweek? Or is friday a day off?
@Luuklag won't work, without updating they can't use it, unless manually changing the .config file, which I'm 100% sure none of them can do. ;)
I'll check the logs at some point just to be sure though.
@Luuklag Friday is a day off for most employees, those who do work work for only half day indeed.
@Luuklag you do it regularly? What happened to the dress?
@Shadow10YearsWizard every now and then. It's hanging on a coathanger now ;). Only have to finish the top.
@Shadow10YearsWizard sounds a bit like in Turkey. Lots of things closed on the friday afternoon.
@Luuklag well done! I never even tried...
@Luuklag yeah, same here. Some shopping malls/centers still work during Saturday, but most don't.
Yeah my wife got started sewing about a year or so ago, abd got me involved as well
> Some Muslim-majority countries historically instituted a Thursday–Friday weekend. Today, many of these countries, in the interests of furthering business trade and cooperation, have shifted from Thursday–Friday to either Friday–Saturday or Saturday–Sunday.
1:20 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard I'm glad we are no longer that religious here. Most shops will be open on sunday's.
@DavidPostill In Turkey as far as shops go there is no real weekend. Buisnesses like firms etc were indeed more on friday-saturday weekend
@Shadow10YearsWizard unfun fact. They make good dressings for bullet wounds.
@JourneymanGeek huh. Well that's something we think we see only in movies, but bet it's being used for real, yeah.
@Shadow10YearsWizard or books.
1:24 PM
As taught in what to do when shot 101
@Luuklag yeah, that's good. :)
@Shadow10YearsWizard It was a lot lower than that earlier, I tried looking through the rep to see where it was lost; and nothing, it just evaporated!?
Example from an unrefreshed webpage:
@Shadow10YearsWizard although we also have some deeply religious people that have the webshop of their company closed on sunday as well. As they don't want people working on their behalf
@Rob well, 30 rep in 13 hours is pretty standard.
@Luuklag that's extreme, yeah.
1:28 PM
But they had well over 10K, so losing 50 takes 100 downvotes; which is less standard for a day.
^ reverse those #'s
While all the major supermarkets are closed in Israel during Saturday, most have their web sites operating as usual during this time. Of course you can't have an order arrive during Saturday, but you can make new orders, edit active orders, etc.
@Rob well, maybe a popular discussion(s) where @Ollie had highly upvoted answer(s) got deleted.
1:50 PM
That could be, I looked for 'user deleted' (if others can see them) and there were none; really they've only lost 2-3 rep on a few days recently, and 50 for a bounty more than a few months ago - it just evaporated.
Don't answer OT, or put in your 2¢ on something that will be censored.
@Luuklag ... or lose an eye.
@Rob only @Ollie can see that, by looking in his reputation tab and having "show deleted posts" ticked:
Need to check 3 months back.
More than 90 days, and score of 3 or more, and the rep isn't lost.
@Luuklag well, there's the trivial thing: run away screaming, if you can....
2:06 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard Checking closer, we are not certain that he ever crossed the line:
Dec 4 at 21:13, by Ollie
10K. But only 900-odd to go.
@Rob well, I like it even more. :D
and you have it nearly 15x as much ...
@JNat cross site Bubuza in need of nuking. Thanks!
@Ollie should have brought it up more frequently.
@Rob and x10 more chatty.
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3:18 PM
> clicking that link redirects you to the review queues
@Glorfindel sure about it? I think it's a link to the review item itself, no?
(i.e. no need to enter any queue manually, you're sent to the page where you can actually approve/reject)
@Shadow10YearsWizard yes, that's what I meant. You end up on /review/suggested-edits/<id>.
It starts with /review, I count that as being part of the queues.
@Glorfindel oh, I got it as you reach the queues and still need to go to the specific queue/item to review.
Nice edit, cheers! +1
Kids now watching a TV show about a teenager with skin disease same as Michael Jackson, who is afraid to show his face in public so he ends up singing with a mask.
nickelodeon.fandom.com/wiki/Ziggy_(TV_Series) (no Wikipedia in English for it yet)
3:53 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard True. Ollie made it, has been online, and didn't even come here for the pings or to brag about it.
@Shadow10YearsWizard There is Wikipedia.
@Rob no worry, with enough pings, @Ollie will arrive. And throw monkeys on us.
@Rob I mean Wikipedia about the TV show. There is Hebrew entry, but without English version.
@Shadow10YearsWizard As long as he brings his couch!
@Rob not if it's black
Green only
Yellow can work too.
זיגי היא סדרת טלוויזיה לילדים ונוער, שעלתה לשידור באופן רשמי ב-15 בנובמבר 2020 ב-TeenNick לצופי HOT, ב-12 בנובמבר עלה פרק הבכורה עלה לערוץ היוטיוב של HOT. ב-8 בנובמבר, טרם צאת הסדרה לאוויר, לקחו דמויות הסדרה חלק מרכזי בעלילת פסטיגל 2020, ששודר באופן דיגיטלי בעקבות מגפת הקורונה בישראל. == עלילה == דורי ארזי (אמיתי ארמן) הוא נער בן 17 אשר חולם על קריירה בתור זמר, אך נאלץ להסתיר את פניו וגופו משום שחולה במחלת הויטיליגו היוצרת כתמים על עורו ומעניקה לו מראה ייחודי הגורם לסוביבים סביבו ללעוג ולהציק לו. משפחתו עוברת למושב חדש והוא ואחותו תמוז (שיר זוארץ) מנסים להתאקלם בסביבה החדשה ויוצרים ביחד עם נטע...
The Hebrew version ^
Can Google Translate it, but it probably won't be very accurate.
Fun fact: most (maybe all?) actors who play teenagers aren't teenagers at all, one is even 27 y/o.
4:03 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard The "Fandom" external links to their website and YouTube channel are both dead, so there's definitely a problem with getting the word out.
4:14 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard It's a thing, here is an article about PEN15 where they talk about strapping down 30 year olds to play the part.
@Rob not dead, broken due to fatal typo in them. Link to website, and link to youtube. Keep in mind kids edit that fandom page, so they probably don't know how to use its editor.
(they're not the kind of kids who visit SE, they're the kind who just watch TV ;))
Know just enough to be dangerous.
1 hour later…
5:41 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard The Ollie at 10K! The Ollie at 10K! The Ollie at 10K!
@Shadow10YearsWizard *throws a festive green and red monkey on @Shadow*
@Rob He, in case you're talking about me, thanks.
@Sonic Thanks for adding the repro steps.
6:01 PM
Why do I not get a "Join this Community" button for the SE site: askubuntu.com ? I can only "Sign Up", which does not seem to let me link/use my existing logged in SE/SO account. Other sites allow me to "join".
@pkamb You already have a profile there: askubuntu.com/users/52601 You need to log in, not join ;)
@pkamb are you using a browser with extra security features enabled?
Yep. Log in using your exising SE credentials (e-mail + pw did it for me :) )
Ok, I do have an account there. But "Log in" doesn't let me log in with my existing SE account? Why isn't there a one-click button for that like "join"?
Hmm, I guess so. It seems like this works automatically for Super User but maybe I've been logged in there for a long time. Server Fault has same problem as Ubuntu.
6:39 PM
@pkamb there are more reports of Universal login failing: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/357490/…. If you want diagnose further I have a write-up here how universal login work after you signed in anywhere.
1 hour later…
8:33 PM
@Ollie He'ed he're:
5 hours ago, by Rob
@Shadow10YearsWizard As long as he brings his couch!
9:12 PM
@Ollie Oh no. Ollie can see all the seekrits now... And vote to delete. We're all doomed!
Kidding aside, congrats. Have fun spelunking in the deleted stuff.
9:28 PM
sdc reassurance Spevacus
@Ollie No such command 'reassurance'.
10K, one badge and rep cap in one day.
Oi! Come back!
*dives after @Spevacus*
Not a measly 10K, but 10.1
Only 989,900 to go.

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