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12:34 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard The existing post was by a user with the same(-ish) name, and this addressed comments on that post (linked by Rob). A moderator has since deleted some of the comments and combined the two answers, including the link you identified as spam.

Rob

3:05 AM

@Feeds Well, that's just mean!

rene

7:33 AM

→ 15 messages moved to Chimney

Is this comment red-flagable?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@rene no. Surely not red flag, but might fit "unfriendly".

rene

Okay, my comment repsonse is borderline as well then

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Eye for an eye, unfriendly for unfriendly? ;)

Anyway, agree with your view.

@RyanM oh. Well, the mod has the last saying and if that's really a spammer, it's on that mod's hands. ;)

rene

luncheonmeat

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Had that in the army.

sdc coffee Glor who worked hard to prove me wrong

SmokeDetector

7:49 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Americano for @Glor

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:D

Rob

8:36 AM

@JohnDvorak What kind of hands?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

99% it's male hand.

Glorfindel

10:21 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard I'm a little late, but thanks! It proves to be more interesting than I thought at first sight.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

11:46 AM

@Glorfindel my pleasure! :P

Rob

12:14 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Spam hands

yesterday, by John Dvorak

how do you tell a male hand from a female hand @Rob?

John Dvorak

spam hands = hams for short? Or is it spands?

Rob

Alas, ham fisted means clumsy and doesn't refer to the appearance of one's hands.

Rob

12:44 PM

@JohnDvorak Previous explanation here and in surrounding comments:

Jul 19 at 18:37, by Rob

Digit ratio

The digit ratio is the ratio of the lengths of different digits or fingers. The 2D:4D ratio is the most studied digit ratio and is calculated by dividing the length of the index finger of a given hand by the length of the ring finger of the same hand. A number of studies have shown a correlation between the 2D:4D digit ratio and various physical and behavioral traits. == Measurement == The digit length is typically measured on palmar (ventral) hand, from the midpoint of bottom crease (where the finger joins the hand) to the tip of the finger. However, recently measurement of digit on dorsal hand...

technastic_tc

2:05 PM

Hey people!

Is there any question (in MSE) (probably a feature request or discussion post) regarding letting the users decide if their posts can be shared on Twitter or not?

rene

@technastic_tc you mean by the SE twitter bot?

technastic_tc

@rene In Ask Ubuntu, my posts are shared by Ask Ubuntu Twitter account. I've no idea of SE Twitter bot.

rene

@technastic_tc this one: askubuntu.com/posts/1265991/timeline ?

tweeted at sep, 2nd, 15:00 UTC

technastic_tc

Yeah..

rene

I can't find a particular FR that asks for users to be able to opt-out of that event from happening on their questions. If you proceed on asking I would careful word that as in general FR's that only benefits the asker without a clear positive incentive for the broader community you might be in for 6 to 8 down votes. There have been mishaps before, based on a few posts I scanned so you could us that in your justification for the feature.

here is a SEDE query for all Tweeted questions on AskUbuntu: data.stackexchange.com/askubuntu/query/1340890

Let me know if you need more stats to back your FR.

Rob

2:26 PM

Someone is allowed to create a website consisting of only your posts, as long as the source is properly attributed; @technastic_tc, I'm not understanding how removing only the Twitter sharing helps hide your questions, though it definitely will reduce their exposure significantly (in some cases).

technastic_tc

@Rob The point is not about hiding. Many users might be unaware of their posts being shared in Twitter. Some might not like their posts being shared in Twitter. So it would be better if this was made opt-in choice.

Rob

Same for Facebook, should that be opt-out too?

rene

2:47 PM

I was unaware of down votes. Where can I opt-out?

Rob

At least you won't have to worry about it being a duplicate - as rene mentioned, quite the opposite.

technastic_tc

@rene Down votes are explained (at least in a very minor way) in the tour..

@Rob Wait.. user posts are being shared in Facebook?

@Rob :)

rene

@technastic_tc fair enough

technastic_tc

3:02 PM

@rene :)

@rene "so you could us"?

Rob

3:53 PM

@technastic_tc Even if the direct Twitter sharing link is removed people are still allowed to copy the link:

If you wish to write a Feature Request on MSE, feel free to do so; I don't think it will be a duplicate.

rene

4:48 PM

@technastic_tc a typo on my behalf. so you could use

Mithical

5:46 PM

@rene I'm mostly just disappointed it's not this being implemented...

rene

isn't that the first step? I mean based on what Cat just commented it is for TL moderation. That is a start

Catija

It's not... but it's a gateway. If we do more with it, we could let mods appoint room mods rather than (or in addition to) ROs. One of the features is being able to set a kick duration.

Mithical

Oooh.

That'd be useful in Charcoal HQ about thirty seconds ago.

Ollie

Hey @Catija? Waffles.

Catija

Essentially, we strip most of the mod/RO abilities in the TL and create a "mod" user in the TL who has most of them restored.

Anyway... I'd imagine only staff should be able to see that option at the moment since no one else can use it.

technastic_tc

5:59 PM

@Rob I'm not talking about the direct Twitter sharing link. I'm talking about Twitter bot account(handled by SE) automatically sharing posts in Twitter without informing OP.

@Rob :)

@rene ok!

I have got an idea! Instead of posting a feature request directly, shall I first create a discussion post where the community can share its opinion whether it's ok (or not ok) for a bot to share their posts automatically in Twitter?

Depending upon the answers, I can come to better conclusion if the community might like or dislike my feature request.

What's your say people?

Mithical

meh

the automated twitter accounts don't really serve a purpose at this point

rene

It is worth a try but I've seen FR disguised as discussion go down the drain quickly as well.

Mithical

they should just be discontinued full stop

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

.

technastic_tc

@Mithical true!

Ollie

6:08 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard .....

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Ollie ••••••

technastic_tc

@rene I'm saying that I'll post a discussion post first.. then based on input from others, I'll create a separate feature request post..

@Mithical :)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@technastic_tc feature request is also a kind of discussion, answers can be posted explaining why people are for or against the request.

Ollie

@Shadow10YearsWizard ....

technastic_tc

@Shadow10YearsWizard oh..

Ollie

6:10 PM

Sadly italics don't work...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Ollie dupe

Ollie

@Shadow10YearsWizard Dope.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Ollie deep

Ollie

@Shadow10YearsWizard derp.

Spevacus

Could you delete that please?

Ollie

6:12 PM

Godot.

Spevacus

We try to keep talk about that on the down-low, if ya know what I mean :D

No worries.

Ollie

:8647332 Waffles.

Spevacus

It's a complicated situation and people are on it.

Sucks, though.

Ollie

The waffles?

Spevacus

Yes.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

6:13 PM

@Ollie well they are big

Ollie

@Shadow10YearsWizard Sausage, eggs, bacon sandwiched between two huge Belgian waffles.

@Spevacus I can help, now that I'm in Metasmoke.

Spevacus

Your flags will be greatly appreciated. Have you signed up for autoflagging?

Ollie

@Spevacus I... don't think so.

How?

Spevacus

That's alright. You can do it whenever. One second, I'll pull up the relevant how-to...

@Ollie Here ya go. The TL;DR is... Set up some conditions, press Clifford the Big Red Button (grants MS the ability to flag on your behalf) and then sit back and relax.

Your flags will most likely not be used as often as you might think, but you'll cast a few at some point, I'm sure.

Ollie

Need to write-access my account first, apparently.

Whoa there @Spevacus.

Spevacus

6:19 PM

Yeppers. MS is sometimes weird about it, it might ask you to do so a couple of times. They don't always stick.

@Ollie Hmm... Weird. What page took you to that?

Ollie

Hang on

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/authentication/status. Clicked the big red button like you said.

Where can I report that?

Spevacus

Ah, haha. Their certification expired. One second, I think Undo had just recently asked Thomas to update it.

Yeah, he did. You can just hold off until Thomas returns and fixes it.

Ollie

Cool.

"with a budget of four dollars a month"

Is that for me or them?

Mithical

Undo

Ollie

Oh.

Hey @Spevacus, where's the list of aliases in the charcoal wiki?

Spevacus

6:32 PM

@Ollie github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/…

Ollie

Thanks.

technastic_tc

I'm done writing the question..

John Dvorak

Nice. When are you posting?

*if SE allowed

technastic_tc

I wanted to know opinion of people how good the post is..

John Dvorak

*not everyone is

I'll support the request

technastic_tc

6:38 PM

@JohnDvorak :)

Any other corrections?

@JohnDvorak Posted!

Spevacus

I think post authors are sent an e-mail if their question is tweeted, but I am not absolutely sure about that.

technastic_tc

@Spevacus nope :(

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Spevacus pretty sure they're not, easy enough to confirm with someone whose post got shared.

Spevacus

Gotcha

Take my updoot then.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@technastic_tc I'd change the request to "Ask for post author permission before sharing their post on social media". This both doesn't imply the OP can actively make SE share the post, and include Facebook where they also share manually some posts.

(maybe even Instagram? Didn't check.)

technastic_tc

6:52 PM

hmm..

@Shadow10YearsWizard I have no idea if SE bots share posts in Instagram. If they do, it must have been mentioned in post revision history right?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Not a must, it's fine now too.

technastic_tc

@Shadow10YearsWizard I didn't get you.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@technastic_tc no no, not bots. Manually by SE staff. They do it on Facebook for sure.

@technastic_tc it's fine as-is, just sharing how I'd ask this if it was me posting the request.

:8647402 lol yes, it's 9 PM and I still didn't have dinner. ;)

This will help for now ^

technastic_tc

@Shadow10YearsWizard oh.. Can you please share the Facebook account?

Ollie

@Shadow10YearsWizard *takes cup of Affogato away from @ShadowWizard*

technastic_tc

6:56 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard OK!

@Shadow10YearsWizard oh..

Why don't you eat then?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@technastic_tc it's in the footer: facebook.com/officialstackoverflow

@technastic_tc kids still doing bath

technastic_tc

ok

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Wife and me eat after kids go to sleep, it's our "together time". :)

Ollie

I'll be going now

Ta!

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Da!

technastic_tc

6:59 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard ok..

Rob

@technastic_tc This still applies:

3 hours ago, by Rob

@technastic_tc Even if the direct Twitter sharing link is removed people are still allowed to copy the link:

But, write your Meta; reap your reward.

technastic_tc

@Rob I'm ok with people manually copying links and sharing it. But I'm not OK with bots randomly sharing it.

@Rob What does that mean?

Rob

Should I look ...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@technastic_tc it means he's OK with you writing the feature request and @Rob wishing you to enjoy the reputation points you earn from it. :)

technastic_tc

@Shadow10YearsWizard :)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

7:10 PM

You've earned the right for...

sdc tea tech

technastic_tc

"Earned the right" haha..

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Right to get it from me, like @Ollie, @Spe, and more! aka you're now considered by me a Tavern regular. :D

Who put the "t" in same line as "w"?! ;)

Time for dinner, cya!

technastic_tc

@Shadow10YearsWizard :)

Spevacus

Enjoy your food!

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Spevacus food and ice cold coffee!

technastic_tc

7:17 PM

Bye!

Mithical

7:58 PM

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rene

thanks Mith

Mithical

:)

Journeyman Geek

9:48 PM

Not really something I'm looking at myself...

stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/2513443/… but why does an India based person need to be fluent in german?

As much as it pains me - Hindi is the official lingua franca of india

Journeyman Geek

10:03 PM

I'll ask a question :D

and troll SE a little :D

Spevacus

Brutal.

Yeah it sounds like an honest mistake if I'm picking up what's being put down.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Spevacus

Little bit of trolling never hurts, though. :)

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek The only German-speaking people from India I know are those who work for Lufthansa

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog exactly

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog I thought the german office was in Munich for some reason

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

10:10 PM

Might be Munich, but I vaguely recall it being in Düsseldorf

Journeyman Geek

stackoverflow.com/company munich

(scroll alllll the way down)

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

Huh, I must be misremembering, or they may have moved since, or I may be recalling the physical location of a remote employee.

balpha was based in Berlin

Journeyman Geek

yup

but balpha was remote

naw, didn't move I think

Austin kinda seems to have replaced the old denver location

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

Well, there is a glut of those employees open to being hired, especially as Lufthansa had to remove quite a few of theirs from duty

Journeyman Geek

well - feel free to pass on the ad to whoever

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

10:18 PM

@JourneymanGeek Spam account: meta.stackexchange.com/users/898372/riberjhon

Journeyman Geek

chewing noises

Spevacus

What does it taste like?

Journeyman Geek

spam, with a aftertaste of desperation.

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

Like luncheon meat, of course.

Spevacus

To be expected.

Journeyman Geek

10:20 PM

and a metallic robotic note

Rob

@JourneymanGeek According to Wikipedia Bangalore (Bangaluru) has Kannada as it's most spoken language; I presume that the English requirement is to request stick poking. Perhaps German is to speak with upper management, co-workers, or the market that they wish to expand into; maybe it's like some of the other condition employers ask for, to cut down on applications and obtain an additional skill not compensated for. I've had interviews where they thought they'd ask 50 questions (or the 64 dollar

question), but I knew they weren't paying that per hour, so ... no.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob reflected in the question 😁

@Rob everyone speaks something similar to but not entirely unlike english

It's the common language of the dev community too

DavidPostill

10:43 PM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, please do the needful 😂

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill I have done the needful sir!

Rob

JG, Reading what goes into my prior background checks I'm fairly certain that I don't want random person authorized to conduct one - so I'm ineligible too:

> The background investigation will include credit and criminal history checks, records checks to verify citizenship of family members, verification of date of birth, education, employment history, and military history. Interviews of individuals who know the candidate and of any current or former spouse (divorced within the past ten years) will be conducted. Residences will be confirmed, neighbors interviewed, and public records queried for information about bankruptcies, divorces,

> and criminal or civil litigation. Additional interviews will be conducted, as needed, to resolve any inconsistencies or issues which have developed during the course of the investigation.

Carte blanche.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob where is that?

Rob

I was referring to the link you gave, which says that they conduct background checks.

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