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3:11 AM

There was no good reference in the FAQs on how per-site meta rep is synchronized with main site rep, so I posted one here. Now you all have a good duplicate target for that, finally.

rene

5:55 AM

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Shadow 10 Years Wizard

6:52 AM

@Ollie but no Snow?

> Video unavailable
This video is not available.

Yellow rain means not enough water. Not good for your health anyway.

@Ollie no, it's disabled on purpose exactly for that reason.

8

Q: Stack Overflow is not getting refreshed automatically

Stack Overflow is not getting refreshed automatically. I have to press F5 explicitly to refresh the website. What might be the issue?

However, if you view a specific tag, you do get a live refresh.

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard WFM, try alternative link.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob yes this one works. I'll eat only white snow.

Rob

7:12 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard ... and watch out where the Huskies go, Nanook?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

7:32 AM

master of bears?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

7:45 AM

@JNat old time (almost three (!) years) network spammer, time to nuke... thanks!

Rob

8:02 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Not necessarily. If you visit the alternative link above, and look at the lyrics to the song, you'll see that it (according to the song) was a dream; and that his mama called him Nanook.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Sweet!

sdc yellow coffee

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'yellow'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

Talking about Huskies, I did have something similar as a child.

or not similar? Always thought they were from the area of Russia too due to their thick fur, but they're not.

Keeshond

The Keeshond ( KAYSS-hond, plur. Keeshonden) is a medium-sized dog with a plush, two-layer coat of silver and black fur with a ruff and a curled tail. It originated in Holland, and its closest relatives are the German spitzes such as the Großspitz (Large Spitz), Mittelspitz (Medium Spitz), Kleinspitz (Miniature Spitz), Zwergspitz (Dwarf-Spitz) or Pomeranian. The Keeshond was previously known as the Dutch Barge Dog, as it was frequently seen on barges traveling the canals and rivers of The Netherlands. The Keeshond was the symbol of the Patriot faction in The Netherlands during political unrest...

Had two of those ^

Rob

You'll know when you see a Huskie.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

8:38 AM

@rene yeah, was going to post it too

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard Coffee knows better. Only yellow tea is available.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob Lipton?

Anyway, coworker brought a cake to work, named literally "rabbits carrot".

Snow

I've not been into my office in almost a year now.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow year?? So it's not Corona... why then?

I missed about 100 days in office due to Corona. Two full country-wide lockdowns, and two personal family quarantines.

Snow

I was last in the office back in March. It's not likely I'll be back before next spring sometime. Maybe my use of "almost" was a bit loose.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

8:45 AM

@Snow oh, yup. Company decision, personal decision, or by law?

But I do hope you work from home? @Snow

Snow

Company mainly. As a country, we should only go to work if we can't work at home. People are going into the office if they really need to work together on a project, but it's very rare and you need high-level approval before doing so.

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard No. Lipton Yellow Label is black tea.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob it's misleading then.

Snow

Basically, the company is saving stacks of money on heating/AC costs with everyone working remotely.

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

And, let's not forget, water costs, refrigeration costs, snack/drink costs, etc.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

8:47 AM

@Snow I see, nice. Here it's all a mess, even during full lockdown people still find ways to get to their work, even if it's really not needed.

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

...cleaning costs...

Snow

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog My company didn't spend much on cleaning anyway, judging by the state of our kitchens every morning...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow well, the hit is global, so companies mostly lose money, in genral.

@Snow lol

@rene kaboom

So @Snow you plan to run for mod again?

Snow

@Shadow10YearsWizard Far too early to say yet. Obviously I have zero rep now, and people have a long memory.

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard Compared to what? --- Johnny Walker Double Black Label; so that's two times more black than black - when placed in a room it sucks in the light?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

8:52 AM

@Snow far more than zero, you made an impressive comeback to the network. :D

Luuklag

@Snow Mine seems to fail me, or you predated my activity

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

144, 91, 31 - in one day!

Luuklag

Although the avatar does look familiar

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag because it's like @Journeyman's

Dog with a mod hat. ;)

Snow

@Shadow10YearsWizard It was a typical first start, my first answer on MSE gained an immediate downvote. :D

Luuklag

8:53 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard nahh its the black lab that does ring a bell

@Snow what used to be your accountname?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow oops, might be me. Deleted now, right?

Snow

@Luuklag Same name, same avatar as before, same bio as before. I wasn't trying to hide a comeback. I recall your name from before, but don't really have memory of interactions with you.

Luuklag

Yeah perhaps that's why I do recall your avatar, but not much else.

Anyways welcome back ;)

Snow

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag like neighbors living nearby and seeing each other, but not interacting often? :)

Luuklag

8:56 AM

Perhaps yeah

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow but why did you delete your accounts? Couldn't you just leave them be? Pity you now need to work hard to get it all back...

@Rob alcohol is always misleading, but tea? Expecting more clarity. :)

Snow

@Shadow10YearsWizard Leaving them be would make things too easy to just come back and be reinstated (something that I did before, and others). Last October/November caused me a great deal of stress and affected my home life. I really needed an unreturnable break for my own mental health.

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard Know your meme - DogWifHat, and the result of that.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow fair enough. Good to see you're fully recovered then! :)

Snow

And hopefully the changes here and behind the mod curtain have largely been for the good.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

9:08 AM

Yup

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Morning.

Just a quick question for the room.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Shoot..

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Would it be considered impolite to edit an answer to a question I made to remove a notice to something I never said?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе depends

Snow

It's more appropriate to comment.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

9:16 AM

If it's a quote then you can safely remove it.

If it's just implied then you should not directly remove it.

In general, you should not remove important parts of posts.

You can disagree, downvote, comment, or even flag though.

(if you find it rude or offensive.)

Snow

And people might not notice their answers are edited - a comment will end up in their notifications. And be somewhat public.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow they will, we get inbox notification when post we made is edited.

(unless it's trivial edit of less than 6 characters)

Snow

It's been a long time away for me, I forget these things. But still, edit wars are discouraged.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Snow sure, that's true.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

10:06 AM

You got Young Trunks Z-Soul!
"Silence. Ignored"

Already done that, no action taken

but two users upvoted the comment. That nice! Now the comment proves that my words were misunderstood....

Luuklag

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе what specific question?

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Oh, wait... the comment could be removed anytime...., ye know... transient, second level citizen

[Sarcasm]

Luuklag

Hmm i tried visiting your MSE profile @Νеvеrꭑoꭇе, but it appears it no longer exists?

So you have an abandoned chat user?

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Luuklag correct. Thanks to the power of merging users

and chat being an odd ball that manages to live deattached from main site users.

So the two merged account on main site are still separated on chat, and I log with what the system decides to use at the time

Luuklag

ah cool

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

10:10 AM

Since this user is "unparented" I can't even change the username to be the same on both "chat identities"

Luuklag

how usefull xD

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

10:48 AM

@Luuklag very.

Anyway, since you asked, I would prefer not to disclose the post because that would rapidly degenerate in finger pointing.
If you want more detail just know that basically the thing is like this: my question has a line that says "you don't want to do (insert something here) because X"
the answer quotes only the part "(insert something here)" and then adds a notice "incidentally, they don't do that"

Luuklag

11:07 AM

You could always add some dots before and after the excerpt to indicate that it originally was part of a larger sentence

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Luuklag still, it was a sentence that was quoted as meaning the exact opposite it meant in context

but don't worry, I just wanted to poke what the room felling was. Considering there doesn't seem to be a cut answer, I guess I will just leave that as is and don't care.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

11:22 AM

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе third level

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе you can't uncare. Closing your eyes won't erase the memory of what you saw or what you feel. :)

You can care, it's fine - but I don't think you should act in the way you originally wanted to act, that's all.

(i.e. editing it out directly)

@rene did you do a roman just now?

rene

?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

It's a bot command in Line that makes a bot auto kick you from the room, then instantly auto invite you back.

So you appear as leaving then joining again in the same second.

rene

that would need the bot to be an RO

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

No RO in Line, that's the beauty of it.

Any user can kick any other user, in any room.

There are people called "nukers" who tend to wipe out whole rooms by kicking everyone out.

Line is like the Wild Wild West version of WhatsApp. With tons of Stickers as well.

Here is roman in action:

!!/coffee Glor

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Espresso for @Glor

Glorfindel

11:33 AM

thx

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

!!/tea Νеvеr

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of chamomile tea for @Νеvеr

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

21 out of the 33 members of the group are bots. :D

Kind of like my Den.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

1:15 PM

hmm sd k should take the last non deleted report, but it's not. :/

Luuklag

now it should work

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag nope, there's no such parameter "-" for report feedback.

There is k, f, tp, tp-, etc., but not just "-" on its own.

But it worked when I told 2 last reports.

oh lol @Luuklag your message did have effect, see here in the bottom. ;)

So anything we reply to a report which isn't actual feedback is saved as comment. Nice.

@Spe I saw what you did too!

sdc tea Spev

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of chamomile tea for @Spev

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

sdc spam rene

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'spam'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

1:20 PM

:(

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Someone will get it, probably not you but someone will.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе Random pic of the day?

:)

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard according to specs it should work: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/…

Spevacus

@Shadow10YearsWizard ಠ_ಠ

WAT I DO

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Spevacus you know, don't be naive

:D

Spevacus

1:28 PM

Yeah you're right... I forgot to sip my tea.

^^ Could use another spam flag, if anyone has one ;D

Yay!

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag nope. Not really, since you skip the feedback itself.

counting flags

Spevacus

Using - only works when you're doing the sd (whatever number)(feedbacktype) method. To properly skip a couple, you could do sd f - k f - n To register the last 6 reports as FP, skip, TPU, FP, skip, NAA.

^ Flags plz

John Dvorak

@Spevacus that's already implied :P

Spevacus

Hah! I guess so.

Seems to be a rather annoying spammer that's just recently popped up >_>

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard research the show that is from and you will understand

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

2:06 PM

> “Aggretsuko” the cute red panda rages against the drudgery of office life

This?

Luuklag

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе sticky notes on monitors, how 1990's

Tinkeringbell

Flappie

►

Gentlemen, I proudly introduce you to the best Dutch Christmas Culture has to offer, now in English as well :)

rene

LOL

Tinkeringbell

It's a pretty darn good translation too!

Luuklag

Quite litteral yeah

anyone know how I can make google maps eat GPS coordinates

I have these: N52 11.968 E005 35.201

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

2:18 PM

@Luuklag just search for this

What treasure is buried there? ;)

Tinkeringbell

Gimme a satellite view and I might be able to tell you if there's anything buried there to begin with :P

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Tinkeringbell

Clearly, there's seeds buried there. Have been buried there for a while too, they've sprouted

I don't see a giant X though, so no treasure.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Seeds of what? ;)

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard how silly, the sidebar threw me off, but this is indeed the area I need

@Shadow10YearsWizard Corn/Maize

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

2:23 PM

@Luuklag nice! :P

@Luuklag for popcorn?

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard nope, cattle feed

for silage

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

oh

How much it cost?

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard what costs?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag the corn

Luuklag

as seed, or as silage?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

2:25 PM

@Luuklag seed, as that's what you take from there. ;)

Rob

@Tinkeringbell Arguably "Floppy" and "Flappy" are different, and neither is "FlapPie".

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard about 100eur per bag of 20kg

Tinkeringbell

@Rob Well, I can't pronounce English either, so I don't blame an English speaking person for not being able to pronounce Dutch :)

He did his best, that's what counts.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag oh wow that's not cheap.

Rob

He ate it.

Luuklag

2:28 PM

And I didn't take anythign from there btw, a colleague measured the resistance of the soil

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob Floppy Bird?

Luuklag

but forgot to draw on the map exactly where measurements were done

luckily I recall the logger having GPS enabled

Rob

Flappy

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag ohh. Now it all makes sense, yeah.

@Rob unless the bird has a disk.

So how much did the soil resist? @Luuk

Rob

@Tinkeringbell We'll put it on your bill:

Tinkeringbell

2:31 PM

I have a beak. One that cracks nuts. Be careful.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard exactly.

Rob

Roger

^ Reference: The Den.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

androidappsapk.co/detail-floppy-bird-20 /cc @Rob

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard Depends with depth, but starting at 0 MPa, to about 7 MPa (which is the max we can measure

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Luuklag

2:33 PM

As that equals a 70kg person putting all their weight on the measuring device (1cm2)

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

As the rage level increases, she switches to Heavy Metal mode

I am getting close.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag that's a very hard soil. Is it good or bad?

Luuklag

above 3 plants are in general no longer able to root

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Just need a few more months of world pandemic, bad work condition and useless government making stupid choices and I should be able to turn into Zen Rage mode.

Luuklag

usually the top 30-50cm is below 3, and then the soil is compacted

from driving heavy equipment over it

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

2:35 PM

.... Or Super Sayan Berserker, whatever comes first

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе or the worst stage: Red Derpy.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

The Berserk Saiyan has the advantage that Broli and Kale look identical, should confuse Shadow on his guessing even more.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

I see it's actually a thing, didn't check before, only after.

Rob

@Luuklag 50 cm is lousy for corn:

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

So let's hope you won't reach this stage, @Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Rob

2:38 PM

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard Super Saiyan Rainbow Dash fan arts exist, so... not surprised

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

oh

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag so what's the conclusion? They should let the soil rest for a while?

Judaism has a rule that farmers must let the land rest for one full year, every seven years.

I mean thousands years old rule, from the Bible itself as far as I can tell.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard Also remember this: the only edit it received is SOUND EFFECTS

MLP Z - Twilight vs Tirek - Dragon Ball Z Sound Design

►

Luuklag

2:41 PM

@Rob depends really much on soil conditions. This plot has a toplayer of about 50cm of clay, below that its very fine sand and gravel. Nothing will root there

@Shadow10YearsWizard less intensive cropping schemes are always a good plan. But usually too expensive here in NL

Really good plots go for about 1M/Ha

You need a pretty sizeable yield to get any ROI with such prices

Rob

@Luuklag I figured someone was trying to grow corn there, I said that the conditions are unfavorable:

21 mins ago, by Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard Corn/Maize

Luuklag

@Rob yeah that would be true

but here we grow corn for silage, which is not the same as they would do in Iowa I think, there it would mostly be for the grain right?

Also something that is interesting from that page @Rob is that root growth stops at the soilwatertable, in which case 50cm is often deep enough here in NL

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag so what's your own role in the company, when you're not fixing colleagues mistakes? ;)

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard Is that possible? One can aspire to not fixing mistakes 24/4?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

2:56 PM

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе yup

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

in other news, I am starting to thing that the acronym "SP", usual found as a prefix on sharepoint related stuff must be cursed since the same two letters (allegedly with a different meaning) apparently are used on Service-now too.

I guess it actually is a curse, meaning something like "Satanae P.... something"? Should I call an exorcist? This would explain a lot....

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Well

Rob

@Luuklag When conditions are very poor, or there's extreme value in making it perfect, topsoil can be dug in to rejuvenate the plot - some go to extremes, such as for expensive Christmas trees: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8635773#8635773 versus chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8636001#8636001

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

There is something that popped to my mind right away, @Νеvеrꭑoꭇе. Yes, you can click the red button.

:P

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе anyway.... I worked with SharePoint for almost two years and hated it. I quit the job and found something else pretty easily. I didn't quit because of SP, but I would in few years, most likely. Why can't you find other job, without it?

Also sounds like you don't have the best coworkers there.

And from everything I can tell, you're a very smart and skilled person. So hope you at least try to find something else? Not only for your sake, for my sake too, I want you to be the happy pony you used to be in the past, who try to convert @Dro and me to ponies as well. :-D

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

3:11 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard the problem is not SharePoint. If a weird content management system, full of bugs and nonsense was the only problem, I guess my world would be pink with rainbows and rivers of fruit juice, cotton candy clouds and so on.

Rob

@Luuklag Assuming you're a professional farmer, and grow correctly, the seed used to grow corn for silage (and depending on what the silage is used for) is different for corn grown for other uses: extension.umn.edu/corn-hybrid-selection/… pioneer.com/us/products/forages/corn-silage/… --- all of America grows corn mostly Biofuel and booze: scientificamerican.com/article/time-to-rethink-corn

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе coworkers then? Still, job change can fix that.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

I am perfectly fine to handle a problematic Software as long as everyone is on the same boat and realizes that you HAVE to work in a certain way to not die trying

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе "everyone is on the same boat" is the tricky part. Right?

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

when instead all some care is due date, at the cost of having devs work in the worst possible conditions possible, then I start getting annoyed quite fast.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

3:14 PM

Well, there must be places out there which are better in that aspect.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard And since you asked, at least here is not so easy. Few companies, and most of them basically think a dev preferred lifestyle is that of a truck driver.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Also, if you'll tell the company you quit, they might give you some boost to stay.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

The cursed "mobility", thinking that you love driving around, go to client places and such.

I HATE DRIVING. With passion.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

In my company, I'm the only employee who don't drive to clients.

I don't hate the driving, I hate the interaction face to face with clients. I'm good enough with emails.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

And so that you get to know something of me, I often joke that I must be a vampire because my eyes are akin to a cat.

Even if I have to wear glasses, apparently I am quite sensible to light, to the point I can see better than others in the evening but direct light blinds me like a moth on a lamp

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

3:17 PM

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе as last resort, assuming you're "on your own", what about relocation? The world is big, surely you can find a place with a company that will hire you, with better conditions.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

so, driving at evening when every other car lights is in your eyes is the WORST ever for me.

@Shadow10YearsWizard not on my own, I live with some parents that have quite a bit of problems on their own, another reason I despise traveling.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе ouch, that's not good indeed.

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе and sending money isn't an option? (i.e. you're needed to be there physically?)

Journeyman Geek

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе eyeshine!

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard Don't know if your culture/country is any different, but here car light have three options. Low, normal and Blinding- to be used when no one is coming the other way. And morons default to blinding all the time.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

My own father did just that, he left to work in South Africa, and sent money home. Not sure how, and never asked actually, probably via mail. It worked pretty much well, from what I was told. :)

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

3:22 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Without going into details, not an option really.

Also, not quite my style either.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе yeah same here. Luckily only very few use the "high" mode by default, but many do use it when they're annoyed - so they annoy the other driver with the lights, on purpose.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard remember my old theory? I think I mentioned it in the now frozen original Sugarcube

People don't know anymore how to be happy

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Anger is much easier to handle, true.

And it feeds itself.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

So instead they revel into making other less happy, so that they feel better than them.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Yup

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

3:27 PM

would be so simple, but we are a race that kinda deserves extinction. We are a plague.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Let's see if it works here.

making @M.A.R. less happy

hmm.... no, doesn't work. :(

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе quote from Dan Brown?

In some recent (?) book there was someone who thought exactly that, and built a fix for the problem.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard Orbital Death Ray? Covid?

Anyway, I remember mentioning this before, but I can't find the source now.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе deadly virus. Like Covid, but with 99% mortality rate.

Luckily, Robert saves the world in the last moment.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

due to some Italian friends, I had multiple occasions to see a local comic called "Lupo Alberto", would translate to "Albert the Wolf".

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Does Albert the Wolf howl a lot?

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

3:32 PM

It is a comic about a wolf who falls in love for a chicken (probably born as a joke. Apparently in the '80 Italy used the words "wolf" and "chicken" as a slang for teenagers boys and girls) and the watcher dog that usually beats him up.

Think Willie Coyote / Ralph the Wolf, but here the wolf just wants to hang out with the chicken.

They look quite similar too.

^ Ralph

and this is the Italian comic

I think you can notice the similarities.

Anyway, among the "just for fun" stories the author apparently LOVES to hide quite heavy political/social satire ones among them

Spevacus

Nice circle, @Sha!

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

For example, I will forever remember a panel where a character ask if another one is "gay" like it was something to be scared off just because he likes flowers and cooking, and he replies "sure, I still have my certificate of antitheticity too"....

Then while the other stupid character is running away screaming like she saw a monster, he adds "if only people started thinking more about heart and less about appearance, this would be a better place to live in".

Rob

😀

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Notice that this story was made in the '80, when LGBTQIA+ communities were indeed seen as monsters.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Spevacus thanks! I work hard on my circles. :-)

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

3:43 PM

Anyway, back to why I mentioned the comic in the first place there was a story about space once. Mankind died and now a single ship is looking thru the space to find a new planed to live on with the few that escaped the ecology disaster on earth.

Most are under cryo sleep and only a few ones are awake to scan planets.

They find a perfect one, like earth. They get off the ship and start further analysis, and a chain of odd events happen until they realize the planet is a living entity.

Rob

How does he do it?:

How to Forge a Square Hammer Billet

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Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе nice, that's very rare indeed for that time. Talking about '80 and '90, there were two TV shows that I really liked: Nikita (the original), and Queer as Folk. I watched them as teenager, and in my early 20's. (not on TV as I wasn't around in proper time, on VCR tapes.)

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

The planet tells them that it is scared, because it knows what happened to earth, but it also knows it can't escape its destiny because humans are tenacious and will find a way to destroy it too.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе that's what a good cartoon show should be doing, yep.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

So... in the end the ship crew decide to just ask for a favor. A single pic-nic to remember the old days. And then they set sailing thru space again, knowing they won't find another home in the little time they still have

Rob

3:54 PM

Nikita Theme.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе that's... strangely nice. Living planets isn't new or unique in SF, but the idea of humans sacrificing their lives as a mass for a planet? Totally unique.

@Rob I remember the music even less, except special cases.

Rob

Almost all of that show was great, too bad it was cancelled. The music was written by a famous composer; not a cheap effort.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Reflecting back now, I can clearly see why I liked Nikita, it's typical for teenager boys. But QaF? It wasn't due to any specific character, something in the plot itself, the interaction between characters, that got me interested.

Rob

The remake is no good.

The interaction?, backstabbing.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob I know, read some reviews and decided to not even try watching.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

4:05 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard to be fair, the ones awake decided for everyone but yep, that's kinda the point.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob it was?? I don't remember, lol.

@Rob not in Nikita. In Queer as Folk.

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

Even if they decided for the others without asking, they still get my sad smile.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе :-)

Happy smile ^

(with a nose)

Rob

La Femme Nikita (TV series)

La Femme Nikita (French pronunciation: [la fam nikita], literally "The Woman Nikita"; called Nikita in Canada) is an action-drama television series based on the French film Nikita by Luc Besson. The series was co-produced by Jay Firestone of Fireworks Entertainment and Warner Bros. Domestic Television Distribution. It was adapted for television by Joel Surnow. The series was telecast in the United States on the USA Network cable channel on January 13, 1997, and ran for five seasons until March 4, 2001. The series was also aired in Canada on the over-the-air CTV Television Network. La Femme Nikita...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Now I must resist pinging @Mast

:D

Mast

4:09 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard You failed.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob 1997? Weird. I thought I saw that when I was 15... was off in few years.

@Mast I know! Blame @Rob

;)

Turns out I have a global memory offset of 3-4 years. So weird!

Stuff I remembered watching as teenager, I actually watched at 20+ age.

Oh well.

So question is, what did I watch as teenager?! lol

Maybe.... I was abducted by aliens for those 3-4 years? :P

Rob

Those pony shows?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

hmm

Did they even exist back then?

Rob

That is explained by the alien abduction.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

> Original release October 10, 2010 –
October 12, 2019

I watched Inspector Gadget as a kid.

Inspector Gadget (1983 TV series)

Inspector Gadget is a science fiction comedy animated series co-created by Andy Heyward, Jean Chalopin and Bruno Bianchi, and was originally syndicated by DIC Audiovisuel and Lexington Broadcast Services Company. The series stars the voice of Don Adams as the titular character, and first premiered on September 12, 1983. It is the first cartoon show to be syndicated by DIC, who specifically created the series to help expand into the North American market, and the first animated series to be presented in stereo sound. The program originally ran from 1983 to 1986, broadcasting 86 episodes over two...

At least here the years match.

Rob

4:17 PM

> Original release January 13, 1997 –
March 4, 2001

Related shows Nikita
(2010–2013)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Rob yes, Nikita, I know.

I was 19.

Rob

Still a teenager, barely.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Nah, I actually remembered starting to watch as 16 or 17 teenager.

And same with QaF, which makes it 3-4 offset.

Rob

👻

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

lol

Early drone?

Rob

4:23 PM

It did more than just that:

Catija

How's it a drone if it's manned?

Rob

Mast

@Shadow10YearsWizard MAV

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

@Shadow10YearsWizard and then came the movie that added the crepypasta worthy realization that Gadget was actually quite smart and brilliant... until they tampered his brain to turn him into a cyborg.

So, the guy gets about 10 minutes of his old, not bugged self... and then has to go back to being defective. Great right? For kids, right?

user400654

kids don't have $$

Rob

4:32 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Inspiring:

Snow

Is that the new moderator cap? Impressive.

Rob

They can only afford this:

Snow

That's actually pretty cool because if you run fast enough, it'll work.

(given a strong chin-strap)

Rob

Yup, he's a winner.

Mast

EASA CS-VLA

EASA CS-VLA is the European Aviation Safety Agency Certification Specification for Very Light Aircraft. The Very Light Aircraft (VLA) aircraft certification category introduced in 2003 by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) is intended to make it easier and less costly to get full European certification of a general aviation aircraft. The somewhat relaxed certification procedure is available for aircraft satisfying the following criteria: Maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of not more than 750 kg One or two seats maximum Maximum Stall speed in the landing configuration (VS0) of no more than...

Rob

4:42 PM

^^^ That has zero seats.

For no seats the Flyboard is better: