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12:16 AM

@NordTheLoftyWizard It is weird. Even doing a search only turns up a single instance of those robo-comments - and the accounts don't appear to be bots. [🤔 Wonders if it's a UserScript to fire off auto-comments].

Journeyman Geek

2:25 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Now you're thinking with portals!

rene

7:52 AM

→ 32 messages moved to Chimney

Tinkeringbell

Ahhh, clean air :)

morning

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

8:17 AM

That's what plants do :)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

9:16 AM

@Ollie pic or it never happened.... ;)

@DavidPostill so why doesn't he change name?? lol

@Rob yeah, @Ollie linked to different account. Guess by mistake?

@NordTheLoftyWizard that's terrible. It's hammering the person with useless comments. One is enough, the rest are just rude noise. Hope you flagged?

And if those are accounts of same person, they should be suspended right away, maybe I'll give it a look myself and flag. Thanks!

No wonder people hate SO. :/

@JourneymanGeek Portal.... now I imagine what I said to Rob, by using the portals from the game. Previously just had blurred image of some wormhole, StarGate style. Thanks! :D

Luuklag

o/

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

\0

\🚽/

Tinkeringbell

9:35 AM

Wow, that's one enthusiastic toilet...

Luuklag

What do you guys think of this post? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/347489/…

Tinkeringbell

First screenshot seems to me to show 3 upvotes and 1 downvote, bringing the total score of the post 2 and the notification to +28

Luuklag

yeah, its a lot of fuzz about nothing if you ask me

Also goes on to grab the RSS feed into it

I VTC'ed with a custom reason

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, I wonder if the last screenshot isn't omitting two downvotes filed below 'last 7 days'

It's... weird at least.

Dunno if it necessarily needs to be closed.

Luuklag

Or some downvotes by OP him/herself

Less then 100 flags to go for the marshall badge :)

Tinkeringbell

9:49 AM

I would need 35 more, apparently... but then I won't get it because I'm a mod XD

I only have Citizen Patrol...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Tinkeringbell tilted both ways. Kind of a rodeo. ;)

Luuklag

ARGHHH stupid hour booking system

There was an error, and apparently there is a hidden feature that when you press esc you exit the page

So now I can do the entire last week again :/

Tinkeringbell

8, tab, 8, tab, 8, tab, 8, tab, 8, submit, ok.

But slowly, because if you tab before the first 8 is converted to 8,00 by the system, you lose the second 8.

Luuklag

hahaha

No its more like 1, click 0:30, click, 1:30, click etc. etc.

Totalling to 32 hours

Tinkeringbell

Ughh okay that one really sucks then, yes.

Luuklag

9:59 AM

its about an hours work most of the time

Tinkeringbell

10:27 AM

@Luuklag Wow. I have to do the double registering thing (client and company both expect a timesheet), and both systems kinda suck... but at least it doesn't take more than 30 minutes, usually!

Luuklag

Well if I would keep things up to date it wouldn't have to take so much time

but I usually forget, so now I have to think about what I did last week etc.

Tinkeringbell

10:39 AM

8 hours of 'beheer' and the rest is 'development' for me :P

Luuklag

yeah that should take no more then 5 mins

Tinkeringbell

should. You're overestimating the speed at which those pages load XD

Luuklag

Yeah same here. In that sense our previous system was far superior

Now were using Exact Synergy

But querying the DB to return 30 rows to me takes a couple of mins

Tinkeringbell

Oh, the old system on the company side was definitely worse/slower... I just don't know when they introduced the delay after pressing tab though. That definitely wasn't there in the beginning and I wonder who thought that would be a good idea.

Luuklag

11:23 AM

@JNat Cross-site spammer stackexchange.com/users/19895807/ann-watson

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard Yes, there's multiple ones; possibly even someone who really has that name, to take the flak - apparently, as David well knows; everyone is passionate about Wesley.

Lonely Kenny is working 👏

rene

\o/

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

11:43 AM

/o\

Luuklag

o/

Rob

12:04 PM

ヘ( ^o^)ノ＼(^_^ )

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@JNat cross site spammer, for your nuking. Thanks! :)

How on Earth this spam doesn't even have a down vote, after one hour on Stack Overflow????????

I mean... actual questions get like -10 in few minutes.

What a sad moment.

Bad questions are nuked on spot, spam get to survive hour(s).

Bad reputation for SO, literally. lol

@rene doesn't Smokey monitor SO, due to the amount of traffic?

This can explain how spam can exist for long time until someone spot it by chance, in the less common tags.

!!/admit failure

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'admit'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

But you fail in your mission, Mr. Detector.

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard page not found

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

12:10 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Espresso for @Shadow10YearsWizard

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag of course, after being reported the good folk of Charcoal nuked it, probably.

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard An hour ago is page 18, not sure people scroll through that; just search or (re)ask.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

But it was intact for whole hour. No flag, no close vote, no downvote. It used to take seconds in the past to nuke spam, that's the weird part. @Luuklag

Luuklag

yeah thats curious

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard Use the MS Search link I gave earlier, search for the site, see if it qualifies for blacklisting, otherwise it can be watched; which adds a tiny bit to the detection.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

12:15 PM

@Rob still, unless Smokey doesn't/stopped to monitor SO, can't explain how he didn't catch it.

sdc location

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard teward/Osiris f6040d8 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of functioncube\.com by tripleee)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

!!/pack your things and move to iBug

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'pack'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

Rob

It doesn't appear over at CHQ outside of your report. You could search (I didn't note the site) and see if it has ever been mentioned in any prior TPs.

rene

12:23 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard there was nothing in that question that could indicate for smokey that something is off. It read like a natural question, it had a link in the middle of the text, it wasn't obfuscated in anyway. No earlier reports for that domain exist in MS. Even on SO it is the first. If we don't tell smokey what to look for, it will ignore a lot.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@rene well, question from 1 rep user with external link is most likely spam, no matter if the link is in the beginning, middle, or end of the question, IMO. Why not report all of those? (only 1-rep users, only questions... answers might often contain valid links indeed.)

rene

You're free to open an issue to get that detection added.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

meh

More fun to rant here. :P

rene

I've added the domain to the watch list so at least any next post will be reported

Rob

@Shadow10YearsWizard rene is correct, you could have checked by clicking there.

^^ Reported, with +1 and one reason; without more weight it's nearly weightless.

It would seem that Yolo was Yolo.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

12:49 PM

@Rob well, I did eat YOLO, it's really tasty.

in Shadow's Den, Jun 17 '15 at 18:52, by Shadow Wizard

by the way @ber I ate an Orange flavored YOLO this week :D

Good old times....

Rob

and you lived to tell, must be weaksauce.

@Shadow10YearsWizard @rene It's a reasonable suggestion, resulting in a measly 17 TPs, 2 FPs, and one NAA; over the past four years. --- Infrequent occurence, but a great observation and barely worth having. --- You might convince @Makyen (unpingable?) to write a regex, but I don't think that alone ties to rep.

rene

1:40 PM

Ninja-ed by @Shadow10YearsWizard

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

!!/ninja

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'ninja'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

Rob

2:14 PM

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Looks like Karate

Rob

Vovinam

Vovinam (short for Võ Việt Nam; Vietnamese: Việt Võ Đạo, Martial Arts of Vietnam) is a Vietnamese martial art, It was founded in 1938 by Nguyễn Lộc. It is based on Vietnamese traditional subjects. Vovinam involves the use of the hands, elbows, legs, knees and weapons such as swords, knives, chisels, claws, fans. Students also learn how to deal with hand-held weapons, counter-attacks, lock-ups, and levers. Amongst Vietnamese martial arts, Vovinam is the largest and most developed in Vietnam with more than 60 schools around the world, including Poland, Belgium, Cambodia, Denmark, Germany, the United...

Rob

2:32 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Two at once:

Le Vovinam Viet Vo Dao au 34e Festival des Arts Martiaux

►

Feeds

2:55 PM

The macro problem with microservices

Ryland Goldstein on November 23, 2020

In just 20 years, software engineering has shifted from architecting monoliths with a single database and centralized state to microservices where everything is distributed across multiple containers, servers, data centers, and even continents. Distributed architectures have enabled developers to scale and meet the needs of an increasingly connected world. Distributing things also introduces a whole…

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

3:13 PM

@Rob still, one ninja climbing is better.

Rob

Yes those vertical and horizontal wall walking challenges look painful.

She likes hitting that button!

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Well that button is meant to be hit. :D

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

4:16 PM

@Ollie what ninja you know?

sdc nin ja

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'nin'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

TCPMAN.EXE

4:30 PM

Did someone mention Trent Reznor?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

4:51 PM

@TCPMAN.EXE don't think so?

TCPMAN.EXE

Yes, I broke several years of lurking to make a terrible joke.

Catija

6

Q: Feature Preview: Table Support

No waffling, right to the point: What? When? Where? Table support 2020-11-23 Meta Stack Exchange & DBA Meta More table support week of 2020-11-30 DBA Stack Exchange Even more table support week of 2020-12-07 Network-wide launch (if no major issues found) That's right. It's finally...

rene

Hmm, that pins badly ...

Catija

TABLES ARE A THING ON MSE AND DBA META!!!

10

rene

5:06 PM

LOL

John Dvorak

And it's only a week until they're allowed on a site where they matter :P

Catija

We were going to make them live on DBA today but we pushed a week because of the holidays and the code freeze.

Tinkeringbell

That looks really nice! :D

rene

5:26 PM

@ArtOfCode did you try to see if right align would work there: meta.stackexchange.com/q/321346/158100 ? Can be achieved with a |---:| in the header.

ArtOfCode

I didn't want right-align :P

It does work, though

rene

Yeah, it is a bit all or nothing.

Tinkeringbell

Now I'm sad I don't have a post to try things on. I guess it's off to the Sandbox for me! :)

rene

@ArtOfCode I was looking for the width control of the column .. I kept removing spaces until I read it makes up its own mind ...

@Tinkeringbell here are potential posts you can edit: meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=code%3A%22----%22

Tinkeringbell

Let's flood the front page, yes. I hear people here really like that kind of thing ;)

rene

5:31 PM

Yes. Specially when done by a diamond ... ;)

Tinkeringbell

Well, at least that means no one is going to complain out loud, right? :P They wouldn't dare...

user400654

5:47 PM

🚽

rene

5:58 PM

I should not read HNQ posts from parenting.se. My first instinct answer is always did you try electro shocks? but I'm unsure if parents have humor ...

Tinkeringbell

Works though. Baby gets hurt once and won't ever try again ;)

rene

That is my reasoning as well ...

Tinkeringbell

To be fair though... we weren't even allowed in the kitchen to explore. Just block off the entire kitchen.

Reduces the risk of stumbling over the child while carrying a pan with boiling hot water and potatoes to the sink as well..

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@Rob ikr, i found this weird too. Made a screenshot since i didn't know how to link to comments, though i guess could have linked to the answer it self and mention the comment...

it is yeah. I was surprised given i never saw those kind of comments unless they're spam (but given those kind of things get nuked fast here). Reminded me of youtube comments.

And sadly no, i didn't flag any of them, given they're kind of old? and I never flagged a comment before, so wasn't sure if it was fine to do it without asking first (given everyone here have more experience about this than me) :)

Luuklag

7:37 PM

@Tinkeringbell Only when I do it, or when the frontpage is Yaakoved

47

Q: Feature Preview: Table Support

No waffling, right to the point: What? When? Where? Table support 2020-11-23 Meta Stack Exchange & DBA Meta More table support week of 2020-11-30 DBA Stack Exchange Even more table support week of 2020-12-07 Network-wide launch (if no major issues found) That's right. It's finally...

discussion markdown tables

Onebox messages can't be edited?

Oh well, then you guys will have to look at it ;)

Mithical

?

Rob

8:18 PM

@NordTheLoftyWizard To link comments click on the date/time (example "X hours ago").

Flipping two tables: ┻━┻ ︵ ¯_༼ᴼ ل͜ᴼ༽_/¯ ︵ ┻━┻

Feeds

8:31 PM

I'll never install a smart home smoke detector. It's not that I don't trust the software--it's that all software eventually becomes email, and I know how I am with email.

John Dvorak

8:55 PM

Randall discovers the Stack Exchange Achievement Tracker?

Ollie

9:29 PM

How can Community post bounties if it's got no reputation?

Ryan M

@Ollie ~~Magic~~ Deleted users: see the timeline

Ollie

@RyanM Thanks.

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell ballsy move there with that S ;)

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

9:57 PM

Good way for the team to see if the community uses an apparently low-use or irrelevant feature: 1. intentionally introduce a bug in it. 2. see if users file bug reports about it.

Ollie

10:10 PM

@Shadow10YearsBlizzard Where can you download the tcpman.exe file?

;)

Ollie

10:36 PM

Remove.

Thanks ;)

Erm

To prevent more like that, and for appropriate investigation will that be escalated to a CM(s)?

Or is that not up for discussion?

Journeyman Geek

@Ollie yes

no

in any case we've escalated it to the relevant folks for appropriate action

rene

@JourneymanGeek new one here

Mad Scientist

@JourneymanGeek I was about to ask about that one just now.

Journeyman Geek

10:53 PM

@MadScientist tbh - it feels like a user with a vendetta googling a name, and pulling out a decade old news article that may or may not be the same person. He clearly is spoiling for a fight, and I don't see any positive contributions on meta.

that said, its my duty to let the right people know (in terms of other mods) and deal with the problems I have (on my site :D )

Mad Scientist

@JourneymanGeek There's also the added mess because in the US and it seems like in Canada as well the names are also published for accused persons, who are not convicted yet. I think this deserves following up, but it's easily possible this is a name collision or a false accusation

Journeyman Geek

Yup

And the second post was clearly completely out of line

Rob

11:33 PM

Lots of people have the same name (need a better source, but it's a popular question; that I don't have time to research properly); for common names (which that isn't particularly) out of ~11M users there's bound to be some overlap. It's difficult to say with a decent amount of certainly; so that ^ source

isn't awful).

Journeyman Geek

\o/

Don't need to

Rob

For example we appear to have barely a tiny handful of "Rob" users (just one half of a common name (in North America)) yet where I live there are a dozen people with exactly the same name (and my city has fewer than 11M inhabitants).

Journeyman Geek

lol

Everyone on chat is Rob or Bob.

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