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Feeds
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Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
1:55 AM
I like how you called me "Albert Einstein". — Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog 18 secs ago
 
 
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Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
5:28 AM
To add more detail to my comment above, I noticed that all the review tasks mentioned in the screenshots as belonging to user "Albert Einstein", all of those are reviews by me. The review IDs and timestamps all match my reviews here on this site. The user ID in the top one also matches mine. The screenshots seem to be from early March, as I remember having that much reputation and badges at that time (also confirmed in my /reputation log). I'm curious to know why you picked me... — Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog 6 secs ago
 
Feeds
Feeds
5:43 AM
 
 
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Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
6:58 AM
@Ollie yep
 
rene
rene
→ 49 messages moved to Chimney
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@rene looked spammy, actually. Flagged and cast the final del vote anyway.
(something with a mobile phone brand)
 
rene
rene
7:14 AM
No, it was not spam. They wanted to know how to disable / replace the logo on their phone.
Quick mods! Decline that spam flag!
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@rene oh. meh.
sniff
smelling spam
turns out it's coming from @M.A.R.'s house
 
rene
rene
7:33 AM
You want a rollback lock ...
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
That would be awesome, lol
Or implement old FR that I made, to not let users with less than 2k rep edit faq posts. (i.e. send their edits to the review queue as if it wasn't a CW post.)
Most of the silly edits are from new users.
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Q: Don't let users without 2,000+ reputation edit FAQ posts here on MSE without review

Shadow 10 Years WizardQuestions tagged faq are semi-official and should contain reliable and high quality content. However, here on Meta Stack Exchange, as per policy, all of them are also marked as Community Wiki, which means that any user with at least 100 reputation (even a brand new user who just joined the site ...

feature-request edits meta meta-faq
 
rene
rene
@Shadow10YearsWizard Worst part is that is breaks the Common mark migration because it gets rolled back to the version prior that. If anything , you and me need to make two useless edits to at least make sure that if it gets rolledback it is in a proper state, assuming users rollback to a prior version.
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
yup
 
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
7:52 AM
Flagged it requesting a wiki answer lock
Will work so long as this feature request isn't implemented.
 
 
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
8:54 AM
@Shadow10YearsWizard That's not spam you're smelling
Declines again
It's NAA
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
9:27 AM
@M.A.R. Nachos And Asada?
 
Yaakov Ellis
Yaakov Ellis
10:20 AM
Hey MSE detectives - can anyone find for me the old canonical feature requests/discussion posts asking for notifications when a post gets closed? I have been looking for it/them (unsuccessfully)
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog my little easter eggs in the screenshots are only fun if someone will catch them
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Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
366
Q: Send authors an inbox message if their question is closed

TheLQI think it would really help if you get notified that a question of yours was closed. Especially for the multi-site power user, usually (at least for me) a question is asked and then left alone for while. I rely on the network-wide inbox to tell me when someone has commented or answered, but if ...

feature-request status-planned closed-questions notifications global-inbox
This duplicate of that question is marked as declined, so you may want to change that tag.
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@YaakovEllis Yaakov the status wizzard ;)
and maybe this one as well @YaakovEllis meta.stackexchange.com/questions/209060/…
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Q: ⛲Water Filter System con tecnologia di microfiltrazione-FRY_CS-💧🥃

Elettronicaitalia---✨--- Questo filtro per rubinetto acqua è stato progettato con una particolare Membrana UF ( ultrafiltro ), che in maniera efficace elimina cloro, metalli pesanti, pesticidi, ruggine e qualsiasi altra particella, trasformando l'acqua del rubinetto in Acqua di buon gusto. ---✨--- #purificador #a...

discussion
see all those spammy emojis in the title
 
Rob
Rob
11:20 AM
@Luuklag Did you end up getting penalized for the flag?
@Shadow10YearsWizard Two pointers (derived from the term nickel and dimers).
 
Yaakov Ellis
Yaakov Ellis
@Luuklag there is only one wizard around here that I know of
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
11:41 AM
@Rob Not besides the flag being declined
by moderator decission
 
Rob
Rob
That is fortunate. Thanks for replying. Better luck with your future requests.
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
Well I think we and Catija just respectfully disagree, and there is nothing wrong with that.
I trust them to not abuse their powers, and if that trust turns out to be misplaced we might need to sound the alarms, but I have no indication whatsoever of that
 
Rob
Rob
If there was added value above and beyond grubbing attention and circumventing the mechanisms in place we could accept fluff but that was clearly an abuse. What if a small portion of the daily visitors did that, we'd have several pages of answers by the end of the month.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
now, when that happens, you can happily raise a meta question asking for the rules to be reconsidered and back it up by more than just a hypothetical ;)
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Rob It won't take long before the answer can be deleted
 
Rob
Rob
11:55 AM
^^ Yes, the minority well knew that the one person voicing their objection could ask on meta to change the rules; if they limited the request to "Thank you comments" they could even gain support for their desire to change the policy - but accumulating answers that answer nothing and crumb to earn brownnose points just gums up the works and depreciates the value of the sites.
Unkind reference ;)
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Luuklag lol
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
12:56 PM
18 red posts on the frontpage, Yaakov did really do magic ;)
It appears him having his sockpuppets deleted wasn't enough to learn his lesson: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356431/… (now deleted)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
Missed anything? ;D
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Luuklag and whoever else was interested in that discussion: It's been had a few times before, for example when looking at the answers [on this post](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/313086/369802)...

It's a bit of a tricky thing that comes with Meta: Answers that are used to thank or congratulate, or short memes/jokes on swag contests...
Ideally, I'd love to see people use comments for that, but not everyone can comment :/
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
on main, can't comment doesn't justify an answer
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
True.
On meta though... It's tricky. If people know you, you're the first, or people agree with the message/it's a popular thing to do, it might go over well. See my answer to Catija's introduction as CM... It's as fickle as the location of Tim's keys.
There were 3 NAA flags on my answer there btw, all declined ...
In this case, well... downvotes might suffice to discourage such behavior in the future.
I don't know. I've seen answers that I would love to see deleted as 'not an answer' here because they don't answer the question at all, yet they're staying because they discuss something that's sideways relevant to the question... and those aren't one-liners or thank-you comments.
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Tinkeringbell which makes them elligeble for deletion. Just wait a few days.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
1:10 PM
Most of those are related to drama ;)
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Tinkeringbell Plenty of simmilar quality answers there that ended up being deleted. So I don't see why we should keep this example around.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I think I can see some reason for it: It's the only place this user has to engage with the CEO blog post and express their gratitude. (which is basically what Catija commented).

If that's the purpose of feedback posts written by SE, perhaps that's a good enough reason.
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Luuklag homepage has been Yaakoved.
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Tinkeringbell Yeah it's true that they can't comment (yet). But a mod turning that answer into a comment would also be a perfect solution in this case.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Luuklag Would it? I am generally hesitant to help people circumvent system restrictions that way, unless we're talking someone answering their own post because they don't understand comments yet.
Like I said, these things get messy and nasty soon :/
But there's precedent for keeping such stuff.
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
1:16 PM
@Luuklag sigh.... yeah, that user lost my interest, I won't waste any more of my time on them. They also removed their other questions on MSE, hoping nobody will remember. They're either actual spammer being smarter than usual, or ordinary person who is truly lost, but doesn't bother to try and improve.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
(just as there may be precedent for deleting it, though I can't see any deleted answers like it on that specific post, just one in a language I don't quite understand but which seems to be about a mobile phone)
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Tinkeringbell wait, that post is not spam, @rene reported it here and I flagged as spam by mistake.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Might be. I wasn't paying much attention to chat yesterday :)
I did see something like it when glancing through the transcript
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
It was today. ;)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Shadow10YearsWizard Well it was before I was back here :P
 
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
1:20 PM
yeah, true.
 
rene
rene
You simply can't trust those high-rep users ...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@rene Can't trust anyone these days :P
Not just high-rep users
 
rene
rene
Once they reach 15 rep they start flagging all kind of posts ...
@Tinkeringbell but ... we do trust red parrots ...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Bad choice :P
 
rene
rene
Story of my life ;)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
1:23 PM
Same, I guess :P
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
Hmmm would it technically be possible to set a different limit to post comments under a certain tag, or type of posts?
 
rene
rene
technically yes. Whether that is useful remains to be seen
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
Well there is some truth to this comment:
@Luuklag You need a token amount of reputation to leave a comment. In my opinion, everyone would have been better served by a moderator flag asking to convert this to a comment. When people complain about Meta feeling toxic, this is the sort of stuff that fuels it. When someone is trying to participate in a way that is technically wrong, but not malicious, maybe pause a second and think about how the problem can be solved without rubbing their nose in it. — ColleenV 7 mins ago
So circumventing both sides would be to just let for example posts in the announcements tag be commented on by anyone.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Luuklag I've told Colleen the same thing I told you here: That such flags are likely to be declined because we're not here to help people circumvent system restrictions like that... I don't know if all announcements deserve comments from everyone though, that could technically also make them more vulnerable to trolling. Especially the ones involving topics that lend themselves well to mass outrage/trolling.
(And I'm one of the people that gets to clean those up, which... might not be concern for most of you but... blegh :P Nothing to ruin your mood faster than having to pick out comments for deletion and then deleting the complaints about deletion and the complaints about the complaints being deleted)
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Tinkeringbell yeah that's also true
 
Rob
Rob
1:35 PM
@Tinkeringbell BTW: In case you can't see a comment that was deleted by an employee, the comment was an automatic comment generated by the system (which the person credited isn't supposed to delete); the one that says that 'Thank you answers aren't appreciated' and to wait until they have the necessary reputation to vote or comment - offering such helpful information to a new user, and discouraging every rep 1 user from posting thanks (why are they thankful, if they don't use the sites), is a
useful review (and initial flag).
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Rob I can see it :) I know what you did was an auto-comment.
 
Rob
Rob
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Indiana Jones Adventure sounds good :)
 
Rob
Rob
Look at it from the point of a reviewer, or a moderator, if a flag comes in do you deny the flag and punish the flagger or do you carefully review the flag and follow the guidance provided exactly - avoiding any complaint and a possible flag / review ban?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
1:50 PM
@Rob No, we always deny all flags before even looking at them. Geek has that scripted, saves a lot of work...
Of course we look at the flags, follow whatever guidance is out there, and then decide whether to decline or do something about it.
But you're acting like the guidance is black and white, which it is not. Even among moderators, it can depend on person and mood whether your flag is declined or marked helpful with no further action.
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Tinkeringbell Sounds like moderators just might be humans after all....
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Bird-brained ones, even.
 
Spevacus
Spevacus
@Tinkeringbell Oof, yeah. I don't envy y'all that at all. JMG was just in the fire not too long ago with a series of answer and comment deletions on one of SE's announcements (somewhat recent). Then it was brought here to chat and it continued to be messy...
 
Rob
Rob
But I can't see who flagged, so I review based on the post; and not for our love of Luuklag.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Rob Yeah, I understand.. what's the exact problem?
Because I feel I'm missing why you sound like you're complaining...
 
Rob
Rob
1:56 PM
8 mins ago, by Rob
Look at it from the point of a reviewer, or a moderator, if a flag comes in do you deny the flag and punish the flagger or do you carefully review the flag and follow the guidance provided exactly - avoiding any complaint and a possible flag / review ban?
We are simply going on about it for too long - not really complaining. Getting milage out of it ...
 
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Rob were is my frequent commenter discount ;)
 
Rob
Rob
 
Spevacus
Spevacus
Hah!
 
 
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Luuklag
Luuklag
4:46 PM
@Rob thx Rob :)
 
 
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Rob
Rob
7:41 PM
@Feeds ^^ Great detective work Sherlock!
 
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
8:20 PM
Um, just a quick question: I flagged this question to request that it be locked, and the flag was marked "helpful - It's locked.", but the question wasn't actually locked.
 
user400654
user400654
🚽
 
 
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samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
9:34 PM
Does anybody know how to go to the original version of a migrated question without the automatic redirect to the new site? I vaguely remember a trick like adding something like redirect= to the url, but forgot the details :(
 
samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
9:44 PM
Never mind, ?noredirect=1 is the magic addition
 

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