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4:51 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Can you please confirm this Hebrew edit is correct? (I'd also ping Mithical, but they're not pingable.)

rene

8:02 AM

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8:37 AM

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog I bet you could ping Yaakov as well ;)

10:22 AM

@JNat cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/18745611/leon-osborne?tab=accounts

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

10:34 AM

Morning.

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Just a quick question, leave an answer here if anyone know something. Time ago, I don't remember where, an user mentioned remembering an user script to add spoiler support to chat.

Any idea what they could be referring to? Stack Apps doesn't seem to have anything similar.

10:59 AM

@JNat another cross-site spammer stackexchange.com/users/19569853/luciusmalfoy?tab=accounts

11:54 AM

@Ollie not blue

@JohnDvorak visible enough for me:

@Ollie wrong blue

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog yes, the edit is correct. It fixed both the grammar and meaning that were wrong. Before the edit it was "I must speak English?" and now it is "Do I have to write in English?" which is much better and correct. No idea why @Mith didn't fix it before.

SE might let users post voice records in the future, then it would have been correct, but we're not there yet.

I can only guess the original author didn't know Hebrew and used translation service. Bad idea.

2:12 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard The Golden Gate bridge, good times, good times: gifer.com/en/FWaF

@Rob why are they angry?

2:37 PM

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356377/… Nice work Yaakov and Lisa

2:57 PM

@Mithical and now?

(/cc @Sonic - a way to ping unpingable users... :))

@Shadow10YearsWizard It's the Battle for the Bridge, stuck in traffic.

@Rob oh. Spaceship bridge is way better. And less traffic too.

@Shadow10YearsWizard Israeli mandatory service?

@Shadow10YearsWizard three? It's two here

And a lot of options for bailing out

Ended up buying a keyboard for less than 10$ which would be 200000 tomans

I have a project ahead.

@Shadow10YearsWizard Artemis, or Starship Horizon's?

3:06 PM

Most likely, I've reassembled the keyboard wrongly, nothing was wrong with the PC.

Tough to beat the Confederation Bridge for length or traffic; even for coolness:

Confederation Bridge

The Confederation Bridge (French: Pont de la Confédération) is a box girder bridge carrying the Trans-Canada Highway across the Abegweit Passage of the Northumberland Strait, linking the province of Prince Edward Island with the province New Brunswick on the mainland. Opened May 31, 1997, the 12.9-kilometre (8 mi) bridge is Canada's longest bridge and also the world's longest bridge over ice-covered water.Construction took place from October 1993 to May 1997 and cost C$1.3 billion. Before its official naming, Prince Edward Islanders often referred to the bridge as the "Fixed Link". It officially...

We only ever get a letter, that you are ellegible for military service, but never get called to be assessed.

@Luuklag yup, @Mith was sharing their personal experience with it for a while. :)

@M.A.R. good for you! :D

Apparently it's good for people to have two keyboard anyway, so it would sorta be a win-win if it wasn't for all the money I paid

I kinda feel that we should have an active mandatory service here as well. Get a lot of those youngsters to learn some respect etc.

3:10 PM

@M.A.R. here too, easiest is just say you don't want to serve in the army, spend couple of months in army prison and you're OK to go.

@Shadow10YearsWizard prison?

Free rent and food, plus exercise camp.

@M.A.R. yes. Jail? Never sure what's the difference.

Another easy way is pay few thousands to a mental health doctor, get confirmation you're mentally ill.

Those who can afford do it a lot.

Jail is Police Station, Prison is where the Court sends you.

@Rob oh. So prison it is. It's actually an army base, just one you can't leave.

@Rob true. But so is the army service itself, just longer.

3:13 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard Well here we have the extra option of just paying your way out without any shady shenanigans.

@M.A.R. lol, nice! With LEDs too?

@Rob neither. ISS Enterprise.

Legally justified by calling it providing the amount of money your services as an individual in the military can be equated to

When arrested by MPs you'd probably be put in a small cell at their station (Jail) until you have a Hearing and are sentenced to Prison. (Jail has no "walls" but Prison has 30-40 foot high walls and patrols outside the walls).

@M.A.R. no friends that could help you with that?

@Shadow10YearsWizard No key backlights or whatever they're called

3:15 PM

@Rob talking about actual bridges, recently read about a bridge that survived thousands (!) of tons of bombs during Vietnam war. Was a good reading.

@Luuklag never?? So who do serve in your army?

Must have been built pretty good.

@Shadow10YearsWizard Only those that enlist

@M.A.R. pay who? How?

@Rob yes, that's pretty much accurate.

@M.A.R. :(

@Rob yes, and it was in the 60's, so only dumb missiles and bombs. I read that bridge motivated the development of smart missiles and bombs.

@Luuklag oh, so 100% volunteers. Well it works well because then the army contains people who actually want to be there and get paid well for it. Here it's.... far from this.

Great many people are really annoyed by their service, suffer, and want out but not brave enough to spend time in prison for that, so they just keep going.

@Shadow10YearsWizard Yeah that's the main reason they don't do service anymore I think. It's too expensive to train people that don't give an F, and have no morale or put no effort into it

I think my dad was one of the last batches of enlisted people

heh

Well army service was fine for me. I didn't enjoy it, suffered many times, but did realize it's just part of living here.

3:22 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard There are always exceptions, some prisons have fairly small and insecure walls along with relatively each to climb fencing; but they tend to not let you wander outside, have snipers, and a good swim:

@Rob lol of course, all kinds of anything. :)

@Shadow10YearsWizard My dad has many great stories, and some less great. So I wouldn't have minded to get to service

^^ Alcatraz Island

Israeli military prison

The Israeli Military Prison is a prison for guarding soldiers who committed crimes during their service. It is estimated that 15,000-18,000 Israeli soldiers (not to be confused with Palestinian detainees) go through an Israeli military prison or detention center every year. == Prison sector history == The need to create prisons in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) arose as the soldiers' discipline deteriorated over the course of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. At first, detention centers were built in the infantry brigades' bases under the auspices of the Manpower Directorate.The prison sector of the...

@Luuklag well... human mind often forgets the really bad things. Basic protection layer.

Well my dad couldn't have been one of the last, as they only suspended new enlistings in 1996

3:25 PM

So I won't rush into service just based on some good stories. :)

@Shadow10YearsWizard True, otherwise no woman would want more then 1 child ;)

@Luuklag LOL.... yes!

@Shadow10YearsWizard hahaha no definetly not, but I don't mind a hardship here and there. Reminds me of how good we usually have things

@Luuklag hey, 1996 is the year in which I became soldier. :D

@Shadow10YearsWizard It's also the year I turned 5 ;)

3:26 PM

@Luuklag lol... baby! :P

13 years difference.

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@JNat thanks!

there's more incoming :P

@Luuklag it's more than just "hardship here and there". There are things that can really depress you, if you're not ready for it, or built "properly". Had friends who got it hard. Hard to explain, anyway. :/

!!/coffee JNat the spam hunter

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@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Ristretto for @JNat

3:29 PM

@JourneymanGeek no posts at all, so I just reset their profile on the network

I've got to go pick up the kids. Good luck nuking accounts @JNat

@Shadow10YearsWizard This one was by yourney. Few messages below I already pointed out they only have a profile description

oops, just noticed it was for Journeyman, lol.

cya guys

cya!

Modern IDEs are magic. Why are so many coders still using Vim and Emacs?

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3:32 PM

Ryan Donovan on November 09, 2020

The endless war between Vim and Emacs users has continued ad nauseam over the years. It’s less a war at this point than a grumbling shuffle of ingrained habit and stubborn resistance to change.

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@Shadow10YearsWizard That's a lot of dissension!

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@JNat thanks!

@Luuklag something to clarify what I meant before. Suppose you're sent to guard a remote spot, about 1 kilometer from the base. It's dark, you're going there alone. You get lost on your way there, and can't find your way neither to the watch tower you should occupy, nor back to the base. Fast forward few days, you're OK and comrades found you few hours later, but blame you for what happened. Not a good feeling.

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@Ollie not quite a spammer, and seems to have been handled over at Maths as it is

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and that is all for today

Spevacus

4:09 PM

\o/

rene

4:22 PM

I'm pretty sure I've seen this error report before: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356383/… recently. But I can't find it.

found it meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/402727

7:10 PM

(1) Comments "alert" also future readers (not just the author) why the voted post is unfit. (2) Typing gibberish or "this is bad" evidences downvoter's lack legitimate motive and/or his inability to articulate, which weakens the purpose and effectiveness of content rating. (3) The "swarm intelligence of future viewers" is oftentimes just an euphemism for "herd effect". (4) It is up to each contributor to not be dragged into off-topic discussions by some troll. (5) The anonymity of downvoting encourages deplorable behavior which quite often goes undetected by SE programmed functionality. — Iñaki Viggers 7 hours ago

Response please?

From whom?

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog I'll reply to that.

@Shadow10YearsWizard From someone here

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog why not you?

i.e. you look for second opinion, fresh set of eyes, or authorative response?

Because I don't feel I can be properly articulate in this case.

7:12 PM

Cause he is the prime author of the FAQ post

No, I just copied that (with attribution) from MSO

@IñakiViggers (1) - While true, I don't see this as a reason to make comments mandatory. If one feels in a contributing vibe one can choose to add a comment to clarify that something is wrong with the post. (2) While true it is also a way to downvote garbage posts quickly. Posts that are so obvious garbage they're not even worthy of a comment. (3) Ok, not sure what you mean by that? (4) Yes, but why not make it easier not to be trolled, by not demanding a comment on a downvote? (5) Which is why we have moderators and staff members. Personally I don't agree with quite often, but every now [1/2] — Luuklag 1 min ago

What do you guys think of the comments on this answer? meta.stackexchange.com/a/356384/361484

7:38 PM

@Luuklag 6/10

@M.A.R. haha good one ;) But whose comment resulted in the loss of 4 points ;)