Is there any standard protocol if someone reports distress/threats/self-injury etc. on meta.se or maybe any stackexchange sites?

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Hello. These sites are full of bugs! Can someone here help?

1) Here on this chat, I was in the room but I could not chat. No field for writing! I had to find and click "Full site" to be able to write.

2) I wrote a question, but I cannot post it! There is a button "Review your question". After I click it, there is still a button "Review your question". This is a dead end! Can you please correct this annoying defect? Can you give me a workaround?

For the latter - are there any changes it suggests?

The former is strange. Never had any issues with mobile chat

@JourneymanGeek The site does not tell me about anything to correct in my question.

@NicolasBarbulesco Screenshot please?

@SonictheMaskedWerehog For what? 1)? 2)?

2.

Ha ha! I had closed. So I tried to reproduce the problem by writing bla bla bla. And... the engine prefers! Now, there is a button "Post your question".

I tried again. I found no way to get the same problem.

@NicolasBarbulesco sounds like you're using a non standard browser. What is your browser/OS?

Mobile theme should let you chat as well, I use it a lot, with Chrome on the phone.

Anyway, since people who write the site are also present in this room, barging in and saying it's full of bugs isn't very... friendly. Put yourself in their shoes and you'll understand.

@QueenieGoldstein without Following? ;)

@QueenieGoldstein did you see the post before it was deleted? You can see a copy on Meta Smoke, there is "MS" link in the beginning of each Smokey report, e.g. metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/269020

@ShadowWizardWearingMask ohhhh yes, i remember that someday i landed up at the report but forgot how to recreate that

thanks

@QueenieGoldstein yw, np ;)

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I use a browser named... Browser, like Safari, on an iPhone on iOS 9.0.2.

iOS 9 is unsupported AFAIK.

I'll get you the Meta post:

This is it. Note the last two stable versions.

@NicolasBarbulesco I think it goes up to 14.something now, so yours is outdated.

They said: "no repro" three hours ago. They left with honor and great pride; receiving the same user experience as our other more than 12 million users per day get.

@Rob still, there was a problem. The browser isn't supported, so it will happen again.

Mobile Safari of iOS 9 is very old, and at least four versions behind. It's like IE10, give or take one version. SE can't be expected to test and support so much backwards.

Anyway @NicolasBarbulesco try to install Chrome app if you can, on your iPhone, and use it to browse Stack Exchange sites. You'll have a much better user experience.

Hmm

Would it be fair to add a keyboard shortcut to start a bounty?

bounties need thought

And then 1 2 3 4 options like for closing posts.

else we have people fatfingering bounties then complaining about their cabbages rep

@Ollie nah, not common enough, IMO.

@JourneymanGeek need about three clicks to actually start a bounty, so unlikely.

(start --> choose amount --> choose reason --> submit)

cat walks across the keyboard

lol

500 rep bounty on HOW I MAEK BABBY

Shog didn't like bounties.

Not that you've ever done that, @JourneymanGeek?

But Shog also didn't have a cat.

I think? ;)

Yes he did.

Prove.

Shog is apparently a dog person :D

@ShadowWizardWearingMask He called it Shog Feline.

Apparently my culture considers cats super unclean.

@Ollie BOOO!

@JourneymanGeek Whyyyyy?

BOOOOO SIR BOOOOOO!

@Ollie where?

Still no proof ^

@Shog9 Is that where my cat went?

I liked that cat. Unless it was taken by certain canine overlords...

lol

Oh no. I saw a monkey running away with a cat.

That's your fault.

Nah, @Rob's fault.

!!/blame

@ShadowWizardWearingMask It's Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask's fault.

_Monkey screeches with maniacal laughter_

oh no

@SmokeDetector I knew it!

Give my cat back!

!!/blame

@Ollie It's CDJB's fault.

@Ollie Catch the monkey first, I'm too old for that. :D

@SmokeDetector It's not my fault, is it?

!!/blame

@Ollie It's Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask's fault.

And again!

lol

Me in 10 years? ^

Finally a real picture, @Rob?

You should be so lucky! :)

:D

But what is he saying?

No audio in gif.... :(

Noice

You've awoke the monkey.

Spammers read Tavern!

The name alone deserves a spam flag.

Abbs Monkey, would have been smarter.

Looks like @MetaAndrew nuked it. :D

Fatal mistake to spam on his watch.

So why am I still here?

@Ollie he has no powerz here ;)

So why am I pinged here?

@MetaAndrewT. You have been lax on your watch.

@MetaAndrewT. you nuked a monkey spammer

@ShadowWizardWearingMask If people who write the sites are in this chatroom, then so much the better! I can tell them about some problems to help them to correct and improve the sites.

Hem, _line-height_ errr

Not on my watch!

@NicolasBarbulesco that's not the correct channel. They're not here for that.

Oh.. that monkey.. I was unsure at first since the affiliation was disclosed, but then I realized it doesn't even answering the question...

Hey, how about a keyboard shortcut for filtering?

I use that pretty often.

@MetaAndrewT. yup. Typical spam, they often say it's their own site.

This is my site.

@NicolasBarbulesco there's years of stuff on MSE already... it's not like someone personally pinging to fix stuff will.... help.

sdc blame

@Ollie It's Mark's fault.

@SmokeDetector Really?

@Rob What am I not clicking?

Anywhere.

@Rob I found the yellow something:

Really?

Gaaah.

goo?

What was that? :(

I deleted it. Monstrosity.

sdc blame

@Ollie It's Journeyman Geek's fault.

Fruit with a long nose.

Fair enough.

@Ollie those guys?

I meant you and Rob ;)

@Rob tomato? I had it as avatar.

Not on Meta though.

But it was red.

It's in the trash, and yellow.

As it should be...in the trash.

@Rob No, deleted messages don't go to trash.

They're just gone, and can be seen only by RO or mods.

Someone moved it, so we can presume that they don't want it reposted.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask In particular, in the Stack Exchange sites, there are annoying regressions: important things that worked, but no longer work, on iOS 9. These things are now broken because someone or some people changed something — maybe knowingly. This is bad, irritating.

@Rob if you talk about @Ollie's latest deletion, it wasn't moved.

I do not.

This is the latest message in trash:

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Post or comment or ghastly yellow monstrosity?

Oh, it's in the Trashcan?

No idea.... dunno what you talk about. :(

Truck engine revving.

So it means......

!!/coffee

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of jQuery for @ShadowWizardWearingMask

@ShadowWizardWearingMask and a few weeks before :D

→ 1 Shadow moved to Trashcan

Whoosh truck, on its way.

Me right now ^

→ 1 @Ollie moved to Heaven

:D

Why thank you, Shadow!

Or at least until I see where that link actually goes...

evil grin

I knew it.

→ 2 @Ollie's moved to 🚽

Toilets are also kind of trashcan.

Two????

@Ollie sure. You and @Ollie.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Popping tags...

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I couldn't see the evil grin because of your mask.

Looks like an @Rob smile.

@NicolasBarbulesco so... because we're not supporting five versions back, you're mad? 14 is current. We only go back 2.

@Ollie Thank you for this info. "The last two stable versions", that is very little. For example, the page at the link "visualized" considers that these two for Safari Mac are Safari 13.1 and Safari 13.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask That's like a dog nose and shark teeth, a Dogfish - type of shark.

Are the devs the only ones allowed to modify the shortcuts script?

Not permanently, but like for a userscript.

@Catija "Not supporting" does not imply that it will not work. There are Web standards, aren't there? Important things of the Stack Exchange sites worked before but no longer work. But who cares about accessibility?

That URL is part of the website (?), so yes; a Dev would be the one to modify it, unless you want to write a UserScript for one of the monkeys.

in practice, or supposedly?

@Rob a userscript. I was just wary of copying/yadayada. It would be very similar, just with a few mods.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask If Web standards are correctly used by the Web author and correctly implemented in the Web browser, then in theory it will work, even if the site "does not support this Web browser" and no test with this Web browser is done. Maybe the Stack Exchange sites do not respect Web standards enough.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Thank you for the advice. I just tried to install Chrome on my iPhone, but mission failure: iOS at least 12.0 required. We are in a world of designed obsolescence.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Anyway, would using Chrome change anything? I thought that all Web browsers on an iPhone use the same engine as Safari, except with jailbreak or stuff like this. Is that not true anymore?

@JourneymanGeek What culture?

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Anyway, would using Chrome change anything? I thought that all Web browsers on an iPhone use the same engine as Safari, except with jailbreak or stuff like this. Is that not true anymore?

@NicolasBarbulesco no idea, and in theory basic actions should work in any browser, but since it's not tested it's not for sure.

@NicolasBarbulesco I saw ways to bypass this using iTunes, but it requires a PC, I think.

@NicolasBarbulesco not sure, but think Chrome use its own engine, even on iOS.

@NicolasBarbulesco not sure, but think Chrome use its own engine, even on iOS.

@NicolasBarbulesco iOS 9 and the hardware it ran on is 5 years old, still there's a half dozen browsers that still support it: discussions.apple.com/thread/250351044 - try: dolphin.com/…

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I expected clicking on links "add a comment" and "delete" to be basic actions. But...

@Rob I bought my iPhone, new, in 2016, less than 5 years ago. Thank you, I will look at that.

✔️

@NicolasBarbulesco no, on Q&A site (aka not a social media site) the basics are posting questions and answers.

@NicolasBarbulesco the phone was new, but with year old OS, which is fine.

I thought it was really 2.5k LOL, then I bookmarked it

Help help....I cant find my question in the bountied tab...(yes I have looked for it thoroughly)

probably not in room

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Apparently the iPhone SE (if that's what it is, @Nicolas) can be updated to iOS 14 (which is probably a good idea): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_SE_(1st_generation)#Software my 2 year old phone is still barely available: samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/… and might have a couple of updates yet to come. --- I get monthly security updates and have had a few OS updates, probably almost 10GB worth of updates since I got it