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12:19 AM
@M.A.R. As though SO brings more joy to his heart:
12:53 AM
Q: Why was 61,408 reputation required to run in the 2011 election?

gparyaniI was just going through old election pages, and noticed something weird in the sidebar of the 2011 moderator election: This number only seems to show up in the 2011 election; in later elections, the correct, expected value of 3,000 shows up. Why was 61,408 reputation required to run in the fi...

Oh, what happened here? i.stack.imgur.com/mkssi.png Does the timeline say that this post has been deleted three times (with undeletions in between) (don’t have 10k rep to see it)?
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2:05 AM
@user289905 Users can't edit self-deleted questions, so they had to undelete and re-delete to make edits
2:24 AM
@user289905 probably caching
or your browser being slow
It was deleted more than once in rapid succession though
I like deleted things!
@Aibobot I left the tab open for a while. It’s likely that the message appears via websocket and Stack Exchange doesn’t check if it’s already displayed.
2:43 AM
there we are :D
2:54 AM
I believe when I eventually leave this job. my lasting contribution to this team will be the word "potato" for things that don't work
@Rob people here don't know :D
hence this team
Potatoes. :)
3:20 AM
"Why not tomatos?" "Potatos are hard and starchy. Tomatos are soft and tasty"
3:50 AM
It's true, the tomato is the lesser vegetable; perhaps it is because they are plainer: quora.com/…
It is possible to grow both in the same spot: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomato
I would rather people throw tomatos at me than potatos.
I'd rather people throw neither.
Here's where to go:
La Tomatina (Spanish pronunciation: [la tomaˈtina]) is a festival that is held in the Valencian town of Buñol, in the East of Spain 30 kilometres (19 mi) from the Mediterranean, in which participants throw tomatoes and get involved in a tomato fight purely for entertainment purposes. Since 1945 it has been held on the last Wednesday of August, during a week of festivities in Buñol. The event in 2020 was cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Spain. == History == La Tomatina Festival started the last Wednesday of August in 1945 when some young people spent the time in the town square to attend...
By comparison, potato days are unpopular:
Barnesville is a city in Clay County, Minnesota, United States. The population was 2,563 at the 2010 census. Barnesville Potato Days is held there annually in August. Interstate 94/U.S. Highway 52 and Minnesota State Highways 9, and 34 are four of the main routes in the city. == History == Barnesville was founded in 1874 by George S. Barnes, and named for him. A post office called Barnesville has been in operation since 1877. Barnesville was incorporated as a city in 1889. == Geography == According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 2.22 square miles (5.75 km2), of...
its all fun and games until someone gets brained by a russet.
Radishes is the higher skilled event:
The Night of the Radishes (Spanish: Noche de Los Rábanos) is an annual event held on December 23 in Oaxaca, Mexico, dedicated to the carving of oversized radishes (Raphanus sativus) to create scenes that compete for prizes in various categories. The event has its origins in the colonial period when radishes were introduced by the Spanish. Oaxaca has a long wood carving tradition and farmers began carving radishes into figures as a way to attract customers’ attention at the Christmas market, which was held in the main square on December 23. In 1897, the city created the formal competition. As the...
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5:24 AM
!!/watch swolgenix
@SonictheMaskedWerehog You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4380 for you.
6:00 AM
6:10 AM
can i post a song here?
i'll take that as no ;)
7:08 AM
@StellaRigeo well, yes, unless it has offensive content.
Believe me, people here post weird stuff. glaring at @Rob and @Ollie ;)
@Rob Corona infection rate?
@M.A.R. need a hand?
7:26 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Your truck seems to have a flat tire, let's see what we can do. Better? :O
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Total cases / deaths = people are their own worst enemy.
hope everyone likes it
7:39 AM
@Rob how come?
@StellaRigeo oh thought you mean song you wrote. ;)
@Rob yup
Too bad @JNat is away, cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/12919646/rohit?tab=accounts
Oh wait. @JNat?! You here? ;)
yesterday, by Catija
@SonictheMaskedWerehog People do also sometimes take vacation...
7:57 AM
@Tinkeringbell but he's pingable.... ;)
Yesterday he wasn't pingable so it means he was here.
Sneaky :P
@ShadowWizardWearingMask thay are too badಥ‿ಥ
8:28 AM
@StellaRigeo nah
Can't be that bad
8:45 AM
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Great, are you doing the dishes today? :D
Finally. All those empty cups lying around were getting annoying.
They're grown ups, they wash themselves. ;)
actually no. He drank all the coffee
That should mean he has enough energy to do those dishes.
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@Aibobot give me three days
11:32 AM
Is SEDE unstable for anyone else?
define "unstable"? just tried random query for 10 times and still looks fine though
it is on and off for me. Works for 20 minutes or so and then I'm either logged out or shows me a maintenance page
11:55 AM
not so much on here :/
What is SEDE again? :P
Stack Exchange Data Explorer
SQL interface for a filtered image of SE's databases.
you can stop now :P
12:43 PM
Hey @Sha you do realize you asked this on one of the posts I linked in that answer in '16 as well? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/267121/… XD
@rene you hammer it too much
I accept that as a valid reason
@Tinkeringbell my memory limit is 2 years so it makes sense, yeah. ;)
How did you remember?? lol
stealing @Tink's memory
I remember everything, especially if I just read it :P
Please don't, I still have a SAFe exam to pass in the near future.
No worry I'll give it back after figuring out how to improve my own. :D
12:48 PM
@Tinkeringbell Oh my ....
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Oh, you don't want the memory for that... the graphics card works better :P
What's SAFe?
> 2018 ‧ Drama ‧ 1 season
@M.A.R. Nothing is ever SAFe ;)
@M.A.R. very safe
Programmers and their capitalization eye roll
12:50 PM
Scaled Agile Framework and I don't know where they got the 'e', I think that's one of those spare letters that can also be used to spell supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
> Scaled Agile Framework® (SAFe®) empowers complex organizations to achieve the benefits of Lean-Agile software and systems development at scale.
Sounds like some sort of reptile
Why the 'e'?
1 min ago, by Tinkeringbell
Scaled Agile Framework and I don't know where they got the 'e', I think that's one of those spare letters that can also be used to spell supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
12:51 PM
Was SAF taken?
@M.A.R. SAF already taken
The Society of American Foresters (SAF) is a scientific and educational 501(c) non-profit organization, representing the forestry profession in the United States of America. Its mission statement declares that it seeks to advance the science, education, and practice of forestry; to enhance the competency of its members; to establish professional excellence; and, to use the knowledge, skills and conservation ethic of the profession to ensure the continued health and use of forest ecosystems and the present and future availability of forest resources to benefit society. Its headquarters are located...
I don't want Iran to adapt them copyright laws much.
But to be bit serious (!) more likely it's because SAF is too similar to SAP so people would confuse the two...
Mostly because I like free movies.
But also because of this crap
12:53 PM
@rene It's okay. It's just the basics XD
e for enterprise?
Scaled Agile Fram Ework
@Tinkeringbell That ... isn't hopeful ... assuming that gets a followup with exams for the not basic stuff
@rene Oh, no. I can stick with basics, I'm just a developer :P
@JohnDvorak boring, so it might be true. ;)
12:55 PM
Agile went wrong when the consultancy firms got their hands on it ...
@rene Why, they hadn't disinfected their hands?
@rene Heh, yeah. For something that's supposed to be people over processes or something, it's a lot of processes!
Its agility is bureaucratic
They do handstands while signing the pile of paper
1:15 PM
A: Thank you, Geoff

OllieGeoff, I am raising a cup of tea to you, as it's a little early for a flute of champagne even for me. Please, y'all, join me in a ten-minute round of ringing applause for Geoff Dalgas!

@Ollie here is your applause:
!!/tea Geoff
@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of green tea for @Geoff
Hey that's not Ollie
Medi Madelen Gwosdz on August 17, 2020
Welcome to ISSUE #34 of the Overflow! This week, we explore how to build a full-text search engine, ways to get involved in open source development, and how to force a right-click on a website that doesn’t want you to. Plus, the debut of Articles, a new form of post in Stack Overflow for Teams.
1:47 PM
@Rob licks ice cream cone
@ShadowWizardWearingMask yes, I'm back :)
We'll call you Rambo from now on.
@JNat yay!! Did you have fun? :)
@Rob not bad, but also no Corona mask!
@ShadowWizardWearingMask yup. And some rest too ;)
@JNat awesome! So, ready to munch spammers now? ;)
2:05 PM
some time this week, hopefully, yes ;)
@Rob here is a responsible artist:
@JNat glad to hear. :D
What about the other end!
@Rob first have people wear mask there, then we'll talk. ;)
They do.
Pants? Not tight enough.
(maybe sometimes, but many times it's not)
2:09 PM
Do you sit naked, typing to us - rhetorical, we know the answer.
What about those going commando?
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@SonictheMaskedWerehog gone and gone
@ShadowWizardWearingMask I have a bit of free time, and thought I'd knock 'em now ;)
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"bit"... lol.... :D
Well, thanksx10 @JNat
!!/coffee x10 JNat
@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Latte for @x10
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2:30 PM
I imagine spammers all over the world trying to close JNat's tabs.
@ShadowWizardWearingMask close one tab and two more open....
@SonictheMaskedWerehog gone
@SonictheMaskedWerehog gone, since I believe this is the same as ^
@SonictheMaskedWerehog gone
@ShadowWizardWearingMask and gone
Nuclear fallout detected.
I'll be back next month ;P
2:34 PM
@JNat Enjoy more vacation!
(that was a joke, given the backlog that had accumulated even before I went AFK)

What a true Spam Hunter does when having bit of a time off

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@Jnat's whoosh truck.
2:36 PM
@JNat yeah, but still very impressive. :)
Time for some cookies, everyone!
@ShadowWizardWearingMask They changed the words, but you get the idea.
@Rob got it, but it's not related to Corona. :D
Is there a setting / userscript to disable animated gifs in chat?
2:56 PM
@JohnDvorak nope
We can
just bury it.
Just post enough
And it'll become history.
That'll do
Q: Disable GIF Auto Play in chat

user214961I think that having the user to click the GIF to play it in chat when oneboxed, would make the experience more user-friendly and bandwidth-friendly. Can this be implemented here? I saw it on a few websites (well... 9gag). This would also make all the chat users more tolerant on GIF's and not dis...

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5:27 PM
Hey @Rob can you try to stay on this side of the virtual border of what is appropriate? I don't mind if the conversation is edgy, I do mind if it is on or over the edge.
To elaborate a bit more: SE chat has the same Code of Conduct as the main site. The old FAQ requests that we keep it "professional". As a general rule, assume anything posted to chat should be PG-13 at the worst. (There are sometimes exceptions, and not everything is applied consistently, but it's a good rule of thumb to bear in mind.)
(So, you know, sexual innuendos and jokes are basically right out, to be a bit more blunt.)
@rene The moderator was a part of the barroom conversation, and had her message trashcanned too; yet no ping for her, or the other person.
@Rob Your message was, let's say, the one that went out of line the most, and comes after some of your messages have been removed for similar reasons in the past.
it was quite obviously across the li ne
@Rob I'll try to behave better too. Though I must admit I've never seen a 13 year old refrain from sexual innuendos or jokes either, it probably is better if we don't :)
5:39 PM
PG-13 doesn't mean you behave like a 13-year-old, pssshhh! :P
Awwww :(
Also, you obviously never met me at 13. *adjusts glasses*
@Mithical We all know you were boring at 13, you told us ;)
I skipped 13
5:40 PM
Good call, it's an unlucky number!
@user400654 u no joke?
What's the best way to age three years in one minute? Cross the border from Belgium to Netherlands.
Are you in Baarle-Nassau?
Nice roll, a nat20 on Arcana
6:06 PM
@Tinkeringbell brings back memories
@M.A.R. uh-oh
6:18 PM
@JohnDvorak I don't get it. 3 years difference in the age of consent or
age of digital consent
GDPR (13 in Belgium)
Is that like five or
Every toddler is playing Mortal Kombat on a 4k screen these days.
In hindsight, GDPR has been frigging annoying.
Has it gained anything other than three layers of "OK thanks steal my data because I'm using your site anyway"?
Or is it no more than the knee-jerk overblown political reaction that it was, to pretend they care?
Wrestling with the mobile shift to type words in the correct case
Genuinely curious. Asking for a friend. Or @Mith.
6:25 PM
16, sheesh. I was the king of Norway when I was 16.
Now I've given up power and chosen a stoic lifestyle
it's a fight for privacy that can't be won realistically. it is futile. At best it's keeping info from companies that follow the rules, putting them at a disadvantage against those who don't, all while making it harder for anything new to get off the ground.
@user400654 well, these arguments were made before GDPR and rest assured they do make a lot of sense. But I wanna see if anyone ever revisited the topic and gave some valuable insight with charts and stuff whether it has delivered any.
Not exactly post-mortem, but uh, deathbed?
In theory it could enable some juicy class action lawsuits
I work in a call centre. We are obliged to ask 5 security questions to confirm an account holder is who they say they are (note we hold sensitive information such as bank details as well as other PII). I was abused by a customer today (who also played the disability card) who insisted that for every question after 2 he was entitled to UKP 50 compensation ... under the GDPR legislation. He eventually provided the 5 answers,
tried to claim the 150 UKP. I managed to not laugh during this process and wished him good luck on claiming the money.
6:41 PM
ey, that's not little money
@JohnDvorak which I'm sure it will by some hypocritical pedant at some point
It seems to be missing its target by quite a few miles. Privacy is dead unless you sit Silicon Valley in their place. Unlikely to happen
@DavidPostill Imagines the mechanical sound of the angry phone hang up
Or ouchhhhh. Hmm
id rather it swing in the other driection
be more above board, transparent, etc
@user400654 hits South Korea Oops
@M.A.R. He had a complaint on his account about the same issue. The complaint team basically told him to FOAD. I was tempted to say I will put a note on your account saying that next time we will ask only 2 questions (that would be name and address, easy to obtain from dumpster diving) and give his bank account details to the next person calling (of course I can't do this as the bank details are masked - unless I happened to be the person adding them to the system and wrote them down ...).
That may have been satisfying but not good for my job security ...
6:58 PM
@user400654 eh, sometimes . . . If a surgeon explains in detail how they will cut a patient, I doubt people would make the sensible choice of letting him do so.
He also complained that I was not taking his disability into account (I didn't know he was disabled until he told me) and was treating him unfairly ...
I don't know the next thing about running a successful tech business, but I suspect, especially in the era of 1st world problems and sensationalism, that too much transparency assumes people would make reasonable decisions, and we're not there yet. At all.
@DavidPostill fly over a dog?
@M.A.R. lol
Jk I know what that stands for
I think.
@DavidPostill sigh pulling the disability card is despicable. No subtler ways to put down people with actual disabilities
The worst thing is he asked to be transferred to another advisor who would take his disabilty into account. Of course his disability had nothing to do with his issue ...
7:14 PM
eh, that's acceptable
At least at my call centre we get to say "nope, you get me or nobody"
(well, unless it's a supervisor, but eh)
7:32 PM
@user400654 Why do you think so? Note that we cannot transfer calls to another advisor, we could dump them back in the queue (which we are not allowed to do). In any caseI treated him like any other customer as I did not know he was disabled. And when I check his disability had nothing to do with his issue (which was a system issue that I could not resolve on the call regardless of his disability.
He had an open complaint (with a callback booked for wed so I told him the complaints team would deal with it), he then demanded the complaints team call him back right now. I said that wasn't possible and hung up (after 20 minutes faffing about). Which I shouldn't do, but if he complains I will just ask my manager to listen to the call ...
Oneof the worst calls I've had in 5 years in terms of customer stupidity, playing the dpr card, playing the disabled card, blaming the advisor card ...
@DavidPostill people are garbage like that sometimes.
I was referring to the previous message @ me, but was too lazy to make it a reply
@Tinkeringbell Yeah, DPR rant over :)
The garden centre I worked for had a clearance sale once, to make room for a big overhaul of the whole shop. We had a lady on a scootmobile come in 15 minute before closing time, drive everyone mad by continually driving backwards (which made the vehicle beep )
and then when at 15 minutes past closing she wasn't even out of sight of the entrance and had nothing in her basket yet, when we requested she leave, yell that she was disabled and had as much right to shop as anyone else, but couldn't go faster
It was quite a sight, luckily the boss kicked her out himself
7:42 PM
Yeah, in hindsight
I'm pretty sure that when it happened I was annoyed I had to stay past closing time.
You should have asked for overtime :)
We never got that. I must admit I also never had the balls to write overtime down on my timesheet
8:01 PM
I once wrote 4 hours on my timesheet for filling in my timesheet. The app we were given was so crap that if you made a mistake you had to redo the whole thing. After the 4th time that day I was done with it.
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By the way, thanks for your email response!

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