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Sonic the Masked Werehog
Sonic the Masked Werehog
12:59 AM
Oh, wait...
@SonictheMaskedWerehog I don't see how adding this feature would resolve the issue you've linked. There's an SE-internal route which allows flags to be retracted. That's available if you have the browser cookies and fkey. This is a request to permit applications/scripts with a SE API Write Token to be able to retract flags, just like they can raise flags. The issue you've linked to is mostly a UI issue, which isn't impacted by this issue. — Makyen 54 mins ago
@ArtOfCode Now it makes sense.
 
 
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Rob
Rob
2:18 AM
@Ollie You've made an avatar that is the pupil of Sauron. This is because of the dimensions.
 
 
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Sonic the Masked Werehog
Sonic the Masked Werehog
4:57 AM
!!/watch-number 2347066504800
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@SonictheMaskedWerehog That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad phone number in answer and Bad phone number in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@JNat I need some of that black magic razzle dazzle on this black magic cross site spammer stackexchange.com/users/19202003/mahrimabrotherhood
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
5:55 AM
So, my Windows (finally?) force-installed the new Edge, turns out it imports all Chrome settings, including recent tabs and it even auto-login....
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
6:13 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Is that a good or bad thing?
 
Sonic the Masked Werehog
Sonic the Masked Werehog
As someone who prefers the classic Edge, it's a bad thing for me.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
As someone who prefers Firefox ... all of this has bypassed me ...
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@DavidPostill bad! While I did agree to import settings, I never agreed to give Edge permission to actually log in to my Chrome/Google account. I think? It's probably written somewhere, with 1px font size.
Not that I really care for my privacy, it's just.... typical Microsoft behavior.
Plus, the forced install, but that's not new.
(which of course caused the computer to crash, lol.)
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Well Auto Login is a setting ...
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
6:35 AM
@DavidPostill in Chrome, sure. But didn't expect it to do it on a different browser...
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
> I did agree to import settings
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@DavidPostill oh, well, for me settings are recent tabs, maybe history, etc...
Also, not sure how it's even technically possible? How can Microsoft get from Google my account details in such a level it can log in?
Anyway, no big deal, not going to use Edge, just wanted to see how it looks like.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
Your account settings (username and password) are stored locally - they must be if you can auto login in the old Chrome
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
7:15 AM
@DavidPostill yeah, true. Guess I expected Google to give some alert before just handing over those credentials. But as you said, the whole Auto Login is something done on purpose and can be turned off, so those who use it, should expect exactly those things, I guess. :)
How to wake up everyone?
!!/coffee All
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Latte for @All
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
or...
sdc tea Oll
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of jasmine tea for @Oll
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Huh? @Ollie? You look.... different....
@Ollie for one week, it's a server side cache.
 
rene
rene
8:03 AM
→ 30 messages moved to Chimney
 
Rob
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask With Android if I update Chrome or Firefox and I'm logged in to Google or SE then after the update / upgrade I'm still logged in - If you were not logged in before and then logged in after an update, that would be different / unexpected. --- Much as you could close your browser and any other running programs, reboot, and come back here; still logged in.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@Rob still, it's all done inside Chrome. When I installed, for example, SE app, I chose to log in with Google, and Google gave me the familiar login dialog.
 
Rob
Rob
8:33 AM
SE APP barfed (or never had) cookies; or (as generally agreed) it's either broken or doesn't work the way browsers do. I can close FF, clear memory and run cleaning programs, reboot, and still be logged in here; even after an OS upgrade. --- If you either logged out of SE or Google and closed your browser upon restarting and coming back to the Tab you'd still be logged out.
 
rene
rene
@ShadowWizardWearingMask it doesn't. It did take your cookies and in general, cookies are long lived on SE, 6 months or so, last time I checked and slide once you fetch a page.
 
Rob
Rob
8:51 AM
Another few APPs that keep me logged in are my Cell Carrier's APP (to check my phone bill, etc.), my phone manufacturer's Cloud Drive (to save settings, photos, etc.), YouTube (login controlled by being logged in (or not) to Google), TV station's APPs, Video / Photo Camera / Video Recorder and Editors (that include an upload / sharing feature), and Pay APPs with Subscription updates (such as AntiVirus; you can't log in or out, if you have paid you're connected if not you get a 'Nag Popup'.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
9:05 AM
@rene well, it logged in to my gmail. :/
 
Rob
Rob
It's probably explained in this Kindle eBook:
If not, try here:
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
I have a mild feeling that the title is a bit hyperbolic
What does the snake symbolize?
 
Rob
Rob
Maybe Toto knows:
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
9:22 AM
@Rob 42
 
Rob
Rob
Possibly ☤
 
Mast
Mast
@JohnDvorak And why is it doing a staring contest with a bird.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
I think it's ... sucking the bird into its mouth??? I'm sure it's physically impossible.
 
Rob
Rob
Not to be confused with ⚕, which judging from the accompanying bird on the cover they appear to have done so.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
Maybe it's being attacked by the bird.
 
Mast
Mast
9:29 AM
Explaining everything apparently involves snakes. Both authors agree on that.
 
Rob
Rob
Maybe the book was written for @Sha, the first book has not a snake butt a hexacoil (2x triple coils).
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
I remember the last time when a snake "tried helping" people with morality. Talked them into an open rebellion that caused billions of deaths.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@JohnDvorak meh
So, the tree was put there, and free will was always an option
maybe the snake wasn't at fault
could have put that tree off the side of a cliff, in the middle of a lava moat
but noooooo
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
"Free will" didn't mean they were allowed to do anything at all.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
"LOOK! TASTY FRUIT! NO EATIE!"
Its like someone never had kids
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
9:36 AM
Think of it more like an office fridge
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
there's literally no one else there
So who was the fruit for?
WHO WAS THE FRUIT FOR?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
God, who walked through that garden too? :P
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
God, ofc
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
was it some sick test of blind obedience?
"All this is yours. Except that thing"
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
It was a reminder that there's still someone they answer to
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
9:38 AM
@JourneymanGeek Man was created to God's image, you can't give a man free will but no choices!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Tinkeringbell and the one choice was.... not good.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
And it would have done that purpose if they weren't talked into disobedience.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@JohnDvorak and who put the snake there...?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek Well, life would've been boring with only good choices.
Again, if you can't make bad choices there's not really much of a choice after all.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak hmm? When did that happen?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:39 AM
@Tinkeringbell but the concequences were a bit drastic
/me thinks the snake was in on it.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
The snake's purpose (or rather of the angel who puppeteered the snake) was to help the people. That the angel decided to do otherwise was his own idea.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Stupid insufferable omnipotent know it all
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek It's not like... God is known for the lesser drastic consequences.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Tinkeringbell like flooding the world?
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask 6000 years ago, give or take
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:40 AM
bit drastic...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek We did get rainbows as an "I'm sorry"
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
maybe destroying an entire city
@Tinkeringbell clearly this is a toxic relationship and there is gaslighting going on
2
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Made a nice tourist spot :D
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak Billions of deaths?? There were only two human beings back then, and none of them was killed.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek XD I know, I left it ;)
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
9:41 AM
They were just kicked out of the cozy parents home for misbehaving, and went out to the real world.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask They lost the ability to live forever, and everyone else inherited that loss.
 
Rob
Rob
Apparently we gained some skills in the past couple of hundred years, for the first 200,000 the population was under one billion:
World population
In demographics, the world population is the total number of humans currently living, and was estimated to have reached 7,800,000,000 people as of March 2020. It took over 200,000 years of human history for the world's population to reach 1 billion, and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion.The world population has experienced continuous growth following the Great Famine of 1315–1317 and the end of the Black Death in 1350, when it was near 370 million. The highest global population growth rates, with increases of over 1.8% per year, occurred between 1955 and 1975—peaking to 2.1% between 1965...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hmm, boring eternal life vs....
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak if it didn't happen, there would never be billions, or even millions, to begin with.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
Surely Adam and Eve would have reproduced even without the rebellion
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
9:43 AM
I guess God would have just kept those two, and not even letting them know they can have children.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@ShadowWizardWearingMask technically if they could reproduce and no one could die...
we could build a giant tower of bodies, hope it dosen't go critical and go out. INTO SPACE!
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek Someone would get depressed and eat the tree.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
Adam and Eve have been asked to reproduce. They just didn't ... soon enough
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Tinkeringbell hmm, the a red panda does it...
and then gets forgiven for being SO GOSHDARNED CUTE
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JourneymanGeek they couldn't die of old age, or maybe also illness, but pretty sure lack of air would still kill even them. :D
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:44 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask pfft
 
Rob
Rob
One was turned the wrong way around, and it was unsuccessful.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek Or the whole eco-system gets destroyed because now red pandas are all banned from the garden!
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@JourneymanGeek Babylonians tried that with bricks. God didn't like the idea.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Tinkeringbell point
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak they have? Forgot that.... is it written explicitly in the Bible?
@JohnDvorak think he was referring exactly to that, lol
 
Mast
Mast
9:46 AM
@JourneymanGeek If you're truly all-powerful, you're above time. So the outcome was inevitable.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek I like this. I used to have silly conversations like this with my brothers (and occasionally mom would chime in) but dad would always shut them down.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Mast exactly
So it was clearly planned all along
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@Mast time just mess things up. Everywhere. ;)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
or said being was not actually properly omnipotent
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Gen 1:28
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
9:47 AM
@Tinkeringbell opposite in my case. lol
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
> God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowWizardWearingMask You're the dad shutting things down? XD
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak Old Bible?
@Tinkeringbell that's not opposite. ;)
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
What do you mean, old?
 
Mast
Mast
@JohnDvorak And now we have 7 billion people on this planet.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:47 AM
(actually there's a few philosophical/religious offshoots that follow that school of thought)
 
Mast
Mast
Why's there no limiter...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(also I'm a hindu, who spent a decade in a christian school. Our creator god is... a mess up)
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak Hebrew Bible
Never sure how it's really called in English
 
Mast
Mast
Old Testament
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
Ah, yes.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:48 AM
@Mast maybe there is
culture and well, pandemics
 
Rob
Rob
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
I do prefer "Hebrew scriptures"
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
The one book that started all the one-god-religions. I think?
 
Rob
Rob
Now look at us!
 
Mast
Mast
@JourneymanGeek Flooding was easier.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:50 AM
@Mast and dramatic.
Personally nothing wrong with a great big sky rock
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
Not sure all monotheistic religions are Abrahamic, but all Abrahamic religions do refer to the Hebrew Scriptures
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak but without knowing what's right and what's wrong it's hard to rule.
 
Mithical
Mithical
@JourneymanGeek I recall one of the Rabbis I follow on Twitter posting something about how Sh'mot (Exodus) is the story of both God and the nation learning how to work together, but I can't find it now
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
All they could do was to follow God commands without questioning them, that's not ruling.
 
Mast
Mast
Most non-Abrahamic religions are polytheistic I think, excluding those written by absolute nutters.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
9:51 AM
They had the world's best advisor for that purpose though
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Mithical don't take me too seriously
this is a bit like me telling people the british empire dosen't exist
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
well, technically...
 
Mast
Mast
@JourneymanGeek Does the Queen know yet?
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak advisor that punish for not listening to him...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Mast more precisely
it never existed
 
Mast
Mast
9:53 AM
Because they never had an emperor?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
So - there was a german empire, and it is the best correlation here
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask everyone would spank you if you specifically ate out the one food box that was labeled by you.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
they were "kaiser and konig" or Emperor (of Germany) and King (of prussia)
So its the german, not the prussian empire
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JohnDvorak ?
Lost me here...
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
And if they used "this guy gave me the idea" as their first and only excuse you would certainly get mad.
 
Mast
Mast
9:54 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Office fridge.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Now, the british empire was "The Queen/King of the United Kingdom and Empress/Emperor of India"
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
The one tree didn't even have better quality food than the trees around it. Its only distinguishing feature was that God asked people to keep it for Him.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(of course the legitimacy of the mugal empire, who the british deposed and whose imperial stylings they adopted is a whole noter story...)
So, it was the Indian empire, and the british empire clearly is a fiction
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@Mast got that, but why would anyone be angry if I ate my own food?
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask this one box of food was reserved for the boss
 
Mast
Mast
9:58 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask They get angry if you eat food that's labelled for anyone but you.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@Mast "that was labeled by you" - what do I miss? puzzled
 
Mast
Mast
If you boss puts in a fridge, tells you to eat anything but from the bottom tray and you do eat from the bottom tray, you got a problem.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@Mast that's true.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask "you" meant the boss here.
 
Mast
Mast
@ShadowWizardWearingMask That's not what my message says.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
9:59 AM
@Mast sure, that's what the original message by @John says, which I didn't understand.
 
Mast
Mast
sigh
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
I understand now. I think. :)
!!/coffee Mast for helping
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Espresso for @Mast
 
Mast
Mast
Thanks.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
:D
 
Mast
Mast
10:01 AM
I think we had a bit of a language barrier.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Yeah.
 
Rob
Rob
10:11 AM
Still do, it started here - to which @Sha replied:
17 mins ago, by John Dvorak
@ShadowWizardWearingMask everyone would spank you if you specifically ate out the one food box that was labeled by you.
Presumably the food box labeled by you would have your own name on it, not someone else.
Just put your lunch in these new ziplock bags:
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
People would feel absolutely free to dump that in the trash over here.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hmm
 
Rob
Rob
Cough on the outside.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
What happens if the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was simply idley yeeted.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Hmm.
some trash panda will find it?
Bacteria or moulds would be blamed with eating it?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
10:18 AM
but does eating it without knowing what it was, or from that tree still count?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
bet it would've
 
Rob
Rob
Kinda like if there's a dent in your car it's OK to call a tow truck, and have it turned into a cube and shredded.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
So somebody takes your food box, throws it out, and defends "I didn't eat it". What would you do?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@JohnDvorak I donno. Was he eating that, or letting it go mouldy?
What about fruit that dropped?
I would postulate the rules were poorly thought out
 
Rob
Rob
and the 20 minute rule ...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
10:20 AM
.....
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
An apple doesn't fall far from its tree.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Rob .... its somewhat shorter than that...
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
I do suppose they'd be given a pardon if there was an actual mix-up.
 
Rob
Rob
;
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
what if daid snake carefully smuggled said fruit somewhere else?
and started a black market fruitery?
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
10:22 AM
Back then there weren't quite as many bacteria and the human immunity system was far better, too. 20 minutes might have been fine.
This got me thinking - I always thought that the reason human lifespans dropped tenfold at the moment of the Flood was because the reduced cloud cover suddenly letting more UV radiation through or some similar effect, but maybe the sudden influx of dead animals at the bottom of the ocean let bacteria and viruses make their own jump to land?
 
Rob
Rob
@JohnDvorak they can, in South Tyrol:
 
Mast
Mast
6
Q: Why did human lifespans drop after the Flood?

A. A.In Genesis 5, a brief account of the lives of Adam's descendants is narrated. All of them had long lives, for instance, Adam lived 930 years, Seth lived 912 years, etc. But in Genesis 6:3, God seems to shorten the lifespan of man to 120 years or at least that's what I understood reading that ver...

genesis nature-of-man flood-of-noah young-earth-creation
 
Rob
Rob
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
I don't suppose mountains were as tall back then - and back there.
 
Mast
Mast
That's one angry looking range.
 
Meta Andrew T.
Meta Andrew T.
10:30 AM
As always, I had a weird dream... :/
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
@Mast great link, thanks. I like the bottleneck explanation.
 
Rob
Rob
A famous mountain is barely a molehill.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
good enough as a makeshift port though :P
... not where it did park though. "Not to be confused with Mount Ararat."
And for Mount Ararat: "Not to be confused with Mount Arayat."
 
Mast
Mast
If the draft of the ship is deep enough, it will get stopped by a speed bump.
And the Ararat is a whole lot higher than a speed bump.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
"Make your ship artificially deeper with this one simple trick that the coral reef corals don't want you to know"
 
Mast
Mast
10:38 AM
I'm surprised the Ark didn't turn into a submarine with the amount of animals on it.
But it's hard to say how many that were really, in part because we don't know when the dinosaurs went extinct according to Biblical history.
 
Mithical
Mithical
@Mast "Oh, that was today?" -dinos
 
Mast
Mast
Haha
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Mast dinosaurs in our myth was "uh...so... I KINDA MESSED UP! HELP!"
 
Rob
Rob
@JohnDvorak A few of them are mighty puny, for a mountain: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Nebo
I guess Moses was the only one who liked long walks.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
11:05 AM
@Rob I read somewhere a big part of those 40 years were actually spent camping, not walking... and I don't know why that came as such a surprise to me XD
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
11:39 AM
@Tinkeringbell even if not theirs?? How rude. ;)
@Rob that one I still don't understand, but do understand what came next, so doesn't really matter. :)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@ShadowWizardWearingMask they got yeeted outta the garden?
 
LinkBerest
LinkBerest
12:12 PM
@JohnDvorak if your going to say Hebrew: it's "replenish the Earth" not "fill" and there are many theories postulated during readings that their were children born in the garden
Or else a single couple with no kids was "full" when you only have one garden (which if you consider it is being kicked out of Dad's house to start in the real world....that makes sense)
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@JourneymanGeek meant what came next here in the chat. ;) lol
@LinkBerest can you please post the Hebrew source?
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
12:27 PM
Genesis 3:20 pinpoints Eve as the mother of all humans, though translations can't quite agree on future vs. present tense.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
12:47 PM
Where does the idea that Adam and Eve had children before Cain come from?
... and why weren't they mentioned?
 
Mast
Mast
1:04 PM
@JohnDvorak There's claims they had kids before, claims they put kids after. I think they're mentioned in other scrolls.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
as in, non-canon sources?
 
Mast
Mast
Non-canon, but some even completely unrelated.
A lot of what we think to know about Nephilim isn't exactly from Genesis either.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
Gen 4:1 suggests strongly that Cain was first-born.
 
Mast
Mast
Some say women weren't counted in that list because of how families worked back then.
I'm not saying there's any sense in that or not, but there's so many arguments.
 
John Dvorak
John Dvorak
It's true that Genesis doesn't mention all of Adam's children. Still, Gen 4 makes the most sense if there were no sons before Cain ... or actually before Seth.
> Gen 6:4 The Nephʹi·lim* were on the earth in those days and afterward. During that time the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men, and these bore sons to them. They were the mighty ones of old times, the men of fame.
This suggests that Nephilim were hybrids between angels and humans.
 
Ollie
Ollie
1:43 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask thanks for the jasmine tea.
But it went cold.
I was asleep.
sdc coffee ShadowWizardWearingMask
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Ollie brews a cup of Ristretto for @ShadowWizardWearingMask
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector could you put the teacup in the sink?
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Ollie Lazy.
@Ollie *grumble grumble not your maid*
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
...welp
 
Mithical
Mithical
:thonk:
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
1:47 PM
great minds and all that
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector I'm always putting your cups in the sink.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
Sez who?
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector me.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
*stares*
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector holds a smoking log underneath SmokeDetector
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
1:50 PM
BEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEP
5
 
Ollie
Ollie
Laughing
@SmokeDetector burns the toast. Again.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
→ 1 Ollie moved to Trashcan
2
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector takes away your batteries
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
BEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEBEEP
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Puny batteries.
 
Ollie
Ollie
1:54 PM
@SmokeDetector did you put me in the trash bin?
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
Yes.
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector I am offended!
@ShadowWizardWearingMask did you star that? :D
@SmokeDetector puts in wrong size batteries. Backs away quickly.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
*tick... tick... tick.... tick...*
Haven't we already established that I don't need batteries?
and that I have a split personality, but that's beside the point
 
Ollie
Ollie
@SmokeDetector you have a dodgy personality.
@SmokeDetector tick...tick...tick...and what comes after tick?
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
Lyme disease
2
 
Ollie
Ollie
1:58 PM
@SmokeDetector Laughing.
 
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask
@Ollie and? Iced Tea is also yummy.
:D
 
Ollie
Ollie
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Ahhhh.
Corona joke:
 
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