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6:14 AM

> Aziraphale collected books. If he were totally honest with himself he would have to have admitted that his bookshop was simply somewhere to store them. He was not unusual in this. In order to maintain his cover as a typical second-hand book seller, he used every means short of actual physical violence to prevent customers from making a purchase. Unpleasant damp smells, glowering looks, erratic opening hours-he was incredibly good at it.

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(Good Omens, Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

6:41 AM

@Rob I just see this same image all over the internet. Thought you meant "Visually similar images"

@Rob give this to @Ollie

@LinkBerest lol, so.... how was the book? ;)

@Mithical yes!

@Rob well no damage to Israel. It's a sad accident, most likely.

@DavidPostill unacceptable yet he's the one who accepted it, so.... only one person to blame. Himself.

But of course like any politician in the world, he'll just throw the blame around.

Magisch

@LinkBerest We have a small book shop in town that is kinda like that

It's next to the city library and somehow still operates. I think the people running it aren't actually in the business of selling books, it's just the side project of a wealthy family.

I know they funded repairs to the city library when it got hit with water damage some years ago

Although I have to admit I get my books these days in ebook format on my kindle, so every book I read feeds the dread god amazon.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Magisch sounds suspiciously like what @Mith quote above... ;)

Magisch

They do sell you books though

i've bought quite a few ones there when I was in school

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

hmm

Sonic the Masked Werehog

7:18 AM

You deserve extra points for posting this with your original title — Shog9 32 mins ago

@Mithical Did that post have a different title that was edited during the grace period?

Mithical

yes

it was originally posted with the title "Three ducks in a tub"

Tinkeringbell

@Mithical I opened it expecting to hit a 'lost soul' button ;)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

7:50 AM

But... why?

@Tinkeringbell does the button check OP first? ;)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardWearingMask It does, I believe it doesn't show up if the OP isn't a new user ;)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:03 AM

Nice!

Mithical

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I forgot to change it after turning my testing question into a real question

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

9:00 AM

@Mithical what did you test with the ducks?

If it's blocking a question without image description?

Mithical

if the automated review would complain

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask How about one Tuck in a dub instead? Not as good.

Mithical

Why though? There’s no point of the image description — Daniil 53 secs ago

@Daniil ...really?

I wrote this, might be a useful read

user707129

I still don’t see the point

M.A.R.

@Daniil If someone is using a screen reader, that's the only way they'd know what the image is at least saying.

Mithical

9:12 AM

Seriously? It's half a minute of extra work that makes a post more accessible to people with disabilities, helps with searching and displaying results, and... there's no point?

M.A.R.

And it helps some with SEO, if that's not an abandoned concept already by now.

Tinkeringbell

@Mithical I am going to clean up those comments before they escalate further, because you are being a bit too blunt there @Daniil, especially the last comment. (and that's coming from a Dutch person).

M.A.R.

FITE FITE FITE FITE FITE

Tinkeringbell

I'm trying not to.

Mithical

@Daniil SE is a huge site. Even if the percentage of people with disabilities who use it is tiny, that's still a lot of people simply because the original number is so large. It's often the top Google search result, so even people who aren't regular users visit. Why you'd disagree with efforts to make it more accessible is beyond me.

Tinkeringbell

9:15 AM

I think the discussion is better suited to here, though let Mith and Daniil talk it out first... no need for piles yet.

user707129

@Tinkeringbell I’m saying the truth, and I don’t see why someone is Dutch would matter

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil It's a bit of a joke ;) Dutch people are known for being very blunt in other cultures ;)

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. NO U

user707129

@Mithical See my (deleted) comment :)

Journeyman Geek

@Daniil uh... cause blind people use SE too

and there's at least one blind programmer

Mithical

9:16 AM

And I'd disagree with the statement that SE doesn't care about accessibility; they've been... lax about it in the past, but they're working on it. And even if the company doesn't care that doesn't mean that we can't make suggestions for things to improve.

M.A.R.

@JourneymanGeek 🔫

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil You could argue that SE putting up a warning that alt-text for images is useful... is a way of SE working on accessibility ;) Or are you expecting them to implement some AI that magically generates alt-text?

Journeyman Geek

in some cases, alt text can be useful in other ways, there used to be a read only text based SE front end done by a person who ended up working here...

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell Please god no

user707129

I usually change my alt text to “image” or just leave the default one and will continue to do so

Mithical

9:18 AM

...

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil That's okay. The warning would be for people that do care, and the ones that just forget :)

Mithical

@Daniil In other words, you don't care about accessibility. Fine. At least please leave it with the default placeholder text so that it comes up when the people who do care are looking for posts that need improvemnt.

I still don't understand why you'd be so resistant to it, but it doesn't look like I'll be able to convince you.

M.A.R.

@Daniil So you haven't made any valid arguments but let's just end the discussion?

Fine by me. I found this in my spam folder

Tinkeringbell

you have a gun?

terdon

@Daniil I can understand not changing the alt text (although I find it really sad that someone would care so little about other people to do this), but changing it to "image"!? That feels like you are being deliberately mean: "Haha, I took the time to write something here, but I made it useless to you, because blind people should suffer". Why in the world would you do something like that?

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M.A.R.

9:23 AM

Bravo, spamming someone that's even banned US entry

@Tinkeringbell It's chekov's but works well enough

A little clanky here and there

Journeyman Geek

"This is my rifle this is my guuuuunnn"

M.A.R.

I'd continue that quote but it's NSFW

@M.A.R. *Chekhov

Mithical

Like... there is literally no downside to adding alt text! Why would you actively resist attempts to get people to do it more?!

user707129

@terdon So people don’t make superfluous edits to my posts

M.A.R.

I have an English exam in 3 minutes and I'm gonna take it while having lunch

user707129

9:28 AM

@M.A.R. I never ended the discussion

user707129

@M.A.R. Have fun

Mithical

@Daniil "superfluous"?

user707129

Yeah

M.A.R.

@Daniil That's what "will continue to do so" implies. We're talking to walls because neither side is going to be persuaded. What's the point of discussing it?

user707129

> More than is wanted or sufficient; unnecessary from being in excess of what is needed; excessive; redundant; needless: as, a composition abounding with superfluous words.
Supplied with superfluities; having somewhat beyond necessaries.

terdon

9:29 AM

@Daniil How did edits come into this?

Mithical

@Daniil I know what it means. I'm having trouble believing that you would in good faith use "superfluous" to describe accessibility-enhancing edits.

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil Okay. Let's not start whacking people over their heads with dictionary definitions, that almost never de-escalates a situation.

terdon

Are you actually saying that not only do you not want to spend 20 seconds of your time to make someone else's life easier, you would even object if someone else were to do the work and edit it for you?

user707129

10 mins ago, by Mithical

@Daniil In other words, you don't care about accessibility. Fine. At least please leave it with the default placeholder text so that it comes up when the people who do care are looking for posts that need improvemnt.

user707129

@terdon ^

terdon

9:30 AM

?

Tinkeringbell

@terdon That's where edits came into this :)

user707129

@terdon Yes to both questions

terdon

Ok, but I am sure we are misunderstanding. I can't believe that @Daniil is really saying that edits that improve the accessibility of a post bother him!

@Daniil Oh. Wow. I... don't have a polite answer to that.

Mithical

@Daniil WTF?

Tinkeringbell

@terdon First question to ask then is probably "why do they bother you"?

user707129

9:33 AM

I don’t want someone to waste their time editing alt text if no blind person is going to read my post, same applies to myself

terdon

@Daniil How would you know who will read your post?

We have had several posts by blind or nearly blind folks on the network.

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil Meh. What's a waste of time to some, is useful to others. My parents call gaming a waste of time, I know it's a useful way to relax for me. :)

Meta Andrew T.

no need blind persons, try blocking imgur domain for first-hand experience...

terdon

And anyway, maybe you don't care enough about other people to spend 3 seconds making their life less hard, that's your choice, but why would you object to other people doing it?

user707129

I want them to spend their time better

terdon

9:35 AM

More to the point, what makes you think you have a right to object? This is SE, where we are supposed to collaborate and editing is an integral part of the platform. If you don't like that, why are you here?

Meta Andrew T.

because my previous company did block imgur, and some posts on SE don't make sense after that

Mithical

@Daniil I hope for your sake you will never need to use accessibility accommodations.

terdon

@Daniil And I want you to spend your time better by helping someone else out. But you don't want to do that, and I don't get to choose for you. Why do you think you can choose for them?

Yaakov Ellis

FWIW I think that it is a good idea (hence status-review)

Tinkeringbell

That settles it then ;)

Meta Andrew T.

9:37 AM

but anyway, I usually chose to blank the alt-text and instead provide textual description below the image, both for visually impaired and non-impaired...

DavidG

@Tinkeringbell Thanks for tidying up those comments!

terdon

@MetaAndrewT. Does that help with screen readers? (honest question, I have no idea)

Tinkeringbell

@DavidG you're welcome :)

Rob

@M.A.R. I thought Chekhov said: "Can you direct me to the naval base in Alameda?".

DavidG

Seems all the things I said in the comments were said in here too, that makes me happy!

Mithical

9:39 AM

yes, if the text provides a description blanking the alt text is recommended instead of repeating it (I usually add something like "transcription below" or something, though, to make it clear that nothing is being missed)

user707129

@terdon If it’s worth it, I’d do it. If you can say this percent of people who use SE are blind and that percent is 1 or above I’d do it

terdon

@Daniil What if it is only one person. Just one. Why would you object to making the life of a single person easier?

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Mithical

@Daniil I consider time spent helping people - which includes increasing accessibility - time well spent. (There's been a bit of an effort over at Science Fiction & Fantasy to add alt texts, and several hundred posts over the past few months have been edited to add alt text, mostly by a group of around five people.)

terdon

I don't see why the number of affected users is in any way relevant.

user707129

@terdon It’s not worth my time

DavidG

9:42 AM

Wow

Mithical

@Daniil Fine. But why hell would you object to OTHER PEOPLE spending their time to edit your post to help that one person?

terdon

@Daniil OK, that tells me more about your character than I wanted to know, but that's your choice. If someone else is less selfish, why does it bother you that they come in and fix it? It doesn't take any of your precious time.

Mithical

(Sorry, I'm getting kinda frustrated. I should back off now.)

M.A.R.

Worry not! For I am here

Tinkeringbell

This is a frustrating conversation, so no worries. But yeah, a bit of distance might work :)

user707129

9:43 AM

@Mithical Because I don’t want other people to waste their time

M.A.R.

Took the exam in 9 minutes

user707129

@M.A.R. I don’t think anyone was worrying about you not being here

terdon

@Daniil They aren't. They are spending their time in the way they choose to spend it. If they thought it was a waste of time, they wouldn't do it. So how come you get to decide for them?

Meta Andrew T.

Uhh... this is going south...

and sour...

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil just a general question but... are you okay? You seem stressed and annoyed and I'm not sure if you're just feeling attacked or taking out some other frustration...

M.A.R.

9:44 AM

Mostly umami

terdon

For example, many people would consider spending time with drones and model aircraft to be a waste of time. Do they get to tell you not to do it?

user707129

@Tinkeringbell I’m not okay

M.A.R.

@Daniil You haven't responded to my last question about this discussion so I can't go on.

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil Want to talk about that first then, before we come back to talking about accessibility on SE?

Mad Scientist

Many people would consider answering questions by random people on the internet a waste of time

Rob

9:45 AM

@M.A.R. Another fork enters the fire!

user707129

@M.A.R. What question?

M.A.R.

You are never going to be persuaded, as you stated in the beginning. Why are we discussing this?

16 mins ago, by M.A.R.

@Daniil That's what "will continue to do so" implies. We're talking to walls because neither side is going to be persuaded. What's the point of discussing it?

Meta Andrew T.

@M.A.R. 9 minutes is too wasted to finish it...

user707129

@Tinkeringbell No I don’t because no-one listens to me anyway

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil I did, in a way hear the frustration... but okay. I do advice you to not take out your frustrations on other people then, or wear them on your sleeve, because that'll make sure they won't listen.

Meta Andrew T.

9:47 AM

@Daniil We wanted to listen to you, but you're being too defensive which made us difficult in approaching you

M.A.R.

@Daniil The gist of your argument is "I don't care", as far as I can tell. That's not a logical argument, and certainly not a valid response to asking why you object to others taking the time to make life easier for others

It just doesn't make sense, barring all the emotions that are around.

user707129

@M.A.R. I don’t want people to waste their time if it’s not going to be productive

Tinkeringbell

Let's drop the alt-text discussion for now, everyone.

M.A.R.

@Daniil So why is helping people with disabilities a waste of time?

Is helping an elderly cross a busy street a waste of time?

Tinkeringbell

It's not going to be productive until other issues are out of the way first, and it seems we're not allowed to help with that either.

user707129

9:48 AM

33 secs ago, by Tinkeringbell

Let's drop the alt-text discussion for now, everyone.

Drop it @M.A.R.

Sure

thankies.

Having been told they no longer wish to argue with everyone, to be set upon, let's move on to something else.

M.A.R.

@Rob Lol that reminds me of when us NNS want to sound formal and cool. We always use "having been"

user707129

9:50 AM

@Tinkeringbell Who says you’re not allowed to help with that?

Rob

NNS Acronyms; IE: real helpful.

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil Your reaction of 'No I don’t because no-one listens to me anyway' gave me that impression. But if you change your mind, I'm here or wherever you'd like to talk :)

M.A.R.

Anyway it sucks that it would seem that I have to correct the English teacher. There was a question where "surly" was a synonym of "arrogance" and don't get me started about article usage

"I have plant next to window"

@Rob non-native speakers (of English)

rene

@M.A.R. is my cousin?

Rob

Ah, I was wondering if it was "Nutty Navel Sauce"; when you keep peanut butter in your bellybutton, for snacks at night.

user707129

9:55 AM

@Tinkeringbell Everything I have to say is in here: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/1511/chq-discussion

M.A.R.

@rene Nah they talk funny, probably not even Dutch

And they're not blurry, at least with my glasses on

Tinkeringbell

@Daniil I'll read that and reply there with some thoughts, if that's okay to you?

rene

@M.A.R. great

M.A.R.

@rene Why, does being blurry suck?

Meta Andrew T.

I have blurry glasses though...

or maybe pixelated, not blurry

M.A.R.

9:57 AM

@MetaAndrewT. It'd help if you CLEAN them once in a while

Once every fortnight maybe

user707129

@Tinkeringbell Ok

rene

@M.A.R. I've no problem with it.

M.A.R.

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Q: Why are the pulmonary vein and artery not like the rest of circulatory system?

I'm learning anatomy. What I learnt is that we have arteries that have oxygenated blood which appears red in color, and branch blood to arterioles to deliver blood to cells via capillaries from where de-oxygeneated blood is collected via venules into veins to go back for oxygenation. So: artery ...

To be fair, I never got why they had to color arteries and veins that way

Just name 'em arteries and veins, then draw the blood according to oxygen content

Is it that, because of the different vessel walls and thickness, they still do look like red and blue IRL when exposed (autopsy, surgery)?

Asking for a biologist friend

Rob

Coloration: mriquestions.com/why-are-veins-blue.html or perhaps better, healthline.com/health/is-blood-blue

M.A.R.

@Rob What, no, I don't wonder if my blood is blue. I'm talking about how veins and arteries are colored in schematic portrayals of the vessels

google.com/…

So for the macrocirculation, from the heart to most tissues and back, it makes a lot of sense and is educationally really effective. But why not just color pulmonary arteries blue instead of red, and explain why they're called arteries?

Rob

10:06 AM

But that Q&A has no example image, to complain that the manner of coloring it was poorly thought out ...

M.A.R.

@Rob It's universally depicted like the Google link I put up there as far as I've seen

Rob

It seems clear, standard.

I'll have to come back to the last question.

M.A.R.

@Rob well the problem is in the pulmonary circulation, the arteries are colored red even though they carry deoxygenated blood and the veins blue even though the blood that comes back to the left atrium is oxygenated (p~95 mm Hg)

@ter might know

So because they color the pulmonary vessels 'wrong', you get so many confused souls like the one in the biology HNQ up there. I was also confused at one point

Rob

Drawing of heart and lungs and my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/… - a longer answer will have to wait a couple of hours, after I finish what I'm doing.

terdon

10:26 AM

@M.A.R. No clue at all. I work with genes, none of this messy, wet, whole organism crap! :P

Mad Scientist

@terdon genes are messy enough already ;-)

Meta Andrew T.

I dreamt of an anthropomorphic human, but that is a messy wish...

terdon

@MadScientist exactly!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

169! New! Messages!

lol

@Rob what are you doing?

@M.A.R. also depends HOW he cleans them...

user707129

10:52 AM

@Mithical Why?

terdon

@Daniil So that people who use screen readers can still be helped by the post. You don't need to do anything, you don't need to waste your time, Mith was nice enough to do it for you so everybody wins!

user707129

@Mithical Please stop

Journeyman Geek

I'm just gonna throw a content lock on it

user707129

Thanks

Journeyman Geek

forever

I don't disagree with what mith did, but I also figure OP's got the last say

user707129

11:03 AM

Even better :)

terdon

Oh wow. I must say, if that had happened on a site I moderate, I would have suspended the author of the post for rolling back useful edits.

Journeyman Geek

But I really think alt text is useful

@terdon oh tempting.

I mean, if it keeps happening, possibly

terdon

The author does not have final say on accessibility. They can choose the wording, within limits, but this is a collaborative site and rolling back helpful edits is a no no.

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user707129

It's not helpful

Journeyman Geek

@terdon bring this up on meta :D

I'll have something to point at

@Daniil I disagree. But I believe this is a reasonable compromise.

terdon

11:05 AM

@Daniil You have made your position very clear on this, however you are also clearly in the minority. The consensus is that it is useful, so...

Journeyman Geek

one where potentially no one's really happy, or won't be at some point.

user707129

The edit removed formatting from my post

Journeyman Geek

could you add the formatting back with the alt text?

Meta Andrew T.

I have something to say, but it'd probably get me suspended...

Journeyman Geek

@MetaAndrewT. I wish I could invoke the "EVERYONE GETS A ROLLED UP NEWSPAPER" but here we are

user707129

11:06 AM

@MetaAndrewT. You can say it if you want, proceed at your own risk

Meta Andrew T.

Emm... what is the term with "high horse" thingy?

user707129

?

Mithical

@Daniil The images weren't quotes, so I removed the quote formatting. That's not the important thing, though.

user707129

@Mithical I wanted to have the blockquote formatting

Magisch

i.stack.imgur.com/8raHg.jpg <- New Picture of our office dog

Meta Andrew T.

11:11 AM

I think it's something similar with "get off my lawn"... but with a horse instead?

terdon

Get off your high horse?

Doesn't really seem too relevant here though.

Then there's "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"

"You and the horse you rode in on"

Can't think of a horsey version of gerroff my lawn.

Meta Andrew T.

certainly not "get off from my horse"...

user707129

And now everyone's upvoting the other answer but not mine

Journeyman Geek

\o/

terdon

Quit horsing around and get off my lawn? :P

Journeyman Geek

11:14 AM

quit lawning around and get off my horse?

terdon

snort

user707129

@JourneymanGeek And you're happy about that?

Journeyman Geek

@Daniil well - you're in a room full of people who disagree with you

upvoting the other answer is the nicest way to disagree

user707129

Thanks everyone, much appreciated

Journeyman Geek

I'm not sure what else to expect tbh

terdon

11:16 AM

There are only 2 more upvotes on the other answer anyway. Not much of a signal. (I haven't voted on anything on that post for what it's worth, not the answers nor the question).

Mithical

Editing bumps a post, so more people will see it. You can't vote on locked posts in any case. You're reading too much into it.

terdon

But if you consider that upvotes mean "this answer is useful", then it makes sense that the answer that is more accessible is more useful since it won't exclude a section of users.

user707129

Why is my post locked anyway?

Meta Andrew T.

At this point, I'd get into a conflict before taking the conflict management course...

Journeyman Geek

cause you didn't want it edited.

SO uh

Mithical

11:18 AM

@Daniil ...because of a rollback war? Pretty standard for a situation like that.

Journeyman Geek

you got exactly what you wanted?

user707129

How does that work? ^

user707129

Is it helpful or declined or disputed?

Journeyman Geek

uhhhhhh

no idea?

user707129

11:19 AM

What is that message anyway?

Journeyman Geek

what post?

user707129

Deleted NAA on SO

Journeyman Geek

ah uh

then I can't check for you

user707129

Mirror: sentinel.erwaysoftware.com/posts/226887

Journeyman Geek

naw, I was going to check the flag history

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

11:22 AM

@terdon I agree, same here.

The alt text that is being added does not affect the post content in any way, can't see why the author is against adding it.

It's one thing to not add it yourself, I don't always add it myself, but remove it when someone else is adding it? Not good.

Anyway....

sfc coffee

user707129

@ShadowWizardWearingMask *sdc

user707129

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Q: Flag message showing as "removed during a deletion" in the flag history

I recently flagged a (now deleted) NAA on SO (10k+ on SO) (mirror for everyone). The flag is shown as "removed during a deletion" in the flag history: What does this mean? Is the flag "helpful", "declined", "disputed" or something else?

support flags

rene

sfc? Starbucks Fried Chicken

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Daniil I was in a hurry, boss went near screen

user707129

sdc coffee Shadow Wizard

SmokeDetector

11:26 AM

@Daniil brews a cup of Macchiato for @Shadow

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Daniil looks like something new, in the past it would be just "helpful" automatically.

Meta Andrew T.

interesting, and I can see an advantage of being neutral with that change

i.e. "the flag is not explicitly taken action but is now moot"

user707129

To make the blind people happy: meta.stackexchange.com/posts/352697/revisions

user707129

@JourneymanGeek Fine

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Daniil I'm happy even without being blind. ;)

Journeyman Geek

11:34 AM

in which case I guess there's no longer a content dispute

Meta Andrew T.

anyway, it's still Wednesday, and I'm worried for tomorrow :/

user707129

Why?

Meta Andrew T.

fully support our clueless client

(work related rant)

Journeyman Geek

@Daniil I THINK you can't edit it if its locked. I don't think there will be a rollback war, but ball is in your court.

@Magisch d'awww

Meta Andrew T.

it's really exhausting when the client can't cooperate while our team has pushing their effort, and I'm not gonna like it tomorrow...

Magisch

11:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek He's exactly as cuddly and fluffy as he looks too

:D

Journeyman Geek

:D

Are the humans allowed to pet him again? :D

Magisch

yes

Meta Andrew T.

I miss being able to cuddle dogs recently :(

Magisch

the dog prohibition was the first measure to fall

Journeyman Geek

hah

user707129

11:38 AM

@JourneymanGeek I like the office dog more

Magisch

im not kidding btw it was brought up by several people to the bosses seperately

ash is very cute though :3

Meta Andrew T.

@Magisch it's a good way to relieve stress while in this condition :)

i watch more cute animal videos recently...

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch That hasn't changed in a decade and half :D

Rob

12:07 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask What Dr. Methane does!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

12:17 PM

> Dr. Methane, Tom Singer, in today's edition of The Santa Fe New Mexican:

In his attack on sensible rules to prevent methane waste from the oil and gas industry (“The full story on methane,” My View, July 30), Ryan Flynn, executive director of New Mexico Oil and Gas Association, demonized environmentalists. Echoing extreme right-wing talking points, Flynn denigrated methane rule supporters as “morally superior” (three times), “arrogant,” and “paternalistic” for wanting to curb industry’s wasteful practices.

This? ^

Or just farting? :D

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Oh, interesting. I just saw an article over here that a lot of old wells in the North Sea are still leaking methane.

fedorqui 'SO stop harming'

12:38 PM

Hiya, little question: a question of mine was marked as a dupe to another one. Both reported a bug and the target duplicate got an answer from a SO developer solving it. However, the bug persists in my question (that is, the answer does not fix my question). Should I ask my question to be reopened? (my question is meta.stackexchange.com/q/351092/209901)

Tinkeringbell

@fedorqui'SOstopharming' Hmm. The answer on your dupe is from 12 days ago, while it was closed 13 days ago. And Ham's answer there clearly states the bugfix is for :, ; and #, not for <s>...

So unless either of those three are still not fixed, I'd leave it, personally.

Rob

May 15 '19 at 18:08, by Margarine

@Rob Googles Mr. Methane . . . WTF.

fedorqui 'SO stop harming'

@Tinkeringbell mmm but the feeling is that a [bug] question marked as a dupe to a [status-completed] [bug] may suggest that the original bug is solved, while it is not. Maybe a [status-declined] would help

Tinkeringbell

@fedorqui'SOstopharming' I can do that :)

I think I'll knock the hyperlinks tag off then.

fedorqui 'SO stop harming'

@Tinkeringbell then I can applaud if you do it :P

Tinkeringbell

12:46 PM

All fixed :)

fedorqui 'SO stop harming'

thanks a lot!

Tinkeringbell

No problem :)