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11:00 AM
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11:31 AM
I was going to say its strangely quiet for a monday but its sunday
which I assume is the worst sort of monday
 
11:52 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ I used to be british. I was never able to shake off the knack for understatement :D
 
@M.A.R. I didn't forget, no worry.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Can't exactly say because the query times out. But I fixed a few instances on SO. — Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog 27 mins ago
@rene any tips? ^
Maybe query the questions in batches somehow, not all at once, so it won't time out?
@JourneymanGeek it's a never ending Corday
 
top 1000, bottom 1000 and eyeball the rest?
 
@JohnDvorak what about the versatiles? :P
But 1000 is really nothing with 10M
 
I mean, measure how many IDs the first and last 1k positives span and assume the density behaves nicely
 
Not sure what you mean, I talk about finding posts with non secure links, mainly to images. There was a script fixing them (maybe only images?) but it was case sensitive so missed quite a few.
I blame @Oded. ;)
 
12:06 PM
it's faster to find one than to find all of them
 
12:55 PM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou aha, you're waiting for me to forget
well played sir
 
1:17 PM
Sir I am!
 
 
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4:40 PM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou for counts, year by year run this query: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/… (4 till 2012)
 
5:00 PM
2008 - 2012 : 4
2012 - 2013 : 6
2013 - 2014 : 1
2014 - 2015 : 3
2015 - 2016 : 5
2016 - 2017 : 2
2017 - 2018 : 0
2018 - 2019 : 3
2019 - 2020 : 2
2020 - 2021 : 0
here is the query with links to posts: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/…
 
 
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6:04 PM
@rene What are you morsing
 
 
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7:30 PM
Has anyone seen something like this before?
A question asked by no one.
 
Happens when a migration happens
 
@Mithical Is that documented on Meta?
The only thing I found was:
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Q: Migrated questions don't have a user action label in the question list

reneThe active tab on MSE just showed this: Normally I can see what caused that question to popup in the active list. But for migrated questions a friendly text is missing. I could only find out by visiting that question. Is the default behavior for migrated posts to show no label for the user ac...

 
8:03 PM
@Alex wouldn't trust that OP ...
@Alex maybe the user is gone on the source site?
 
@rene The source site was here, and the account here still exists.
Though isn't this a separate network?
Maybe it has something to do with that?
 
No, I don't think so. It still hooks up to the Network account db.
@Alex mind adding that screenshot with a small explanation as a comment on my bug report?
That screenshot is from MSE, right?
 
No, it was migrated from here to Interpersonal Skills Meta, so that's where the screenshot is from.
 
8:20 PM
@Alex maybe that is why it went belly up. It is migrated to a child-meta site. That might be unexpected. I assume the common scenario is: main-site -> main-site or main-site -> own child meta.
@Mithical can a mod migrate a question from their main site to a meta of any other site?
 
@rene Could be. Though I would expect that migrations from Main Meta to Specific Meta would be pretty common (relative to migrations in general).
 
@rene yes
 
@Alex I've updated my bug report with your case. Please let me know if I missed anything.
 
@rene Looks good.
 
8:35 PM
@rene May be worth mentioning that no name appears specifically when the user doesn't have an account on the destination site (and thus the username on the post itself is a grayed-out non-link)
Also, it's likely that this aspect of the system was written back when user action labels weren't even shown, so this was the correct way to display then.
 
Interesting, I can see the revisions of the post even though it was deleted (and I don't have 10,000 reputation). I assume that's also because it was migrated.
 
Migrations are weird.
And noisy. Ever been to a field where there are millions of birds just milling around? It can get deafening.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog but that specific user did have an account, AFAICT. Created 4 days before the migration. That is the weird part. Because I also assumed a non-existing user at first. Unless I miss something
 
8:53 PM
@rene Trolling, delv-pls.
 
A CM got it after me.
 
Seen that.
 
9:10 PM
@Mithical @Yaakov quick question(s)... I saw that Channel 12 plan to do a "Mass Seder" this year, live and online - can religious people even take part in it? When exactly is the חג beginning? If possible, will you join such a thing?
 
It's... complicated.
 
?
Using TV or phone is clearly forbidden during Shabbat or Hag... no?
So it's just a question when those begin, exactly.
i.e. fixed time, or after a certain event e.g. the Seder.
 
> any of Passover, Shavuot, Sukkot, or Shemini Atzeret.
 
חג starts sundown Wednesday - 6:30 or so IIRC? After that, it's basically the same rules as Shabbat, so yeah - actively using tech is a no-no. On the other hand, there's nothing that explicitly prohibits having a livestream open or even a Zoom call, provided you don't touch it.
 
Uh, OK
 
9:15 PM
@Mithical huh! So you can leave a TV on during the whole time? Didn't know that.
 
@Mithical snort I guess all this traditional/religious stuff doesn't translate well into modern life over there either, huh
 
But... can't you also have auto-reply in the phone then people can call you?
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou I mean, there's an idea of it not being in the spirit of the day, but technically yeah. People have different customs on that
 
@M.A.R. that's an understatement
 
9:16 PM
@M.A.R finally a new avatar! Kudos. :D
 
But there's too much yellow now
You're the first person that hasn't gone "WTF happened to the kitten!"
 
You were yellow before, so it's a good sign.
@M.A.R. never liked the kitten, so it's easy for me. ;)
 
A sign of . . . OK but I dunno how to interpret that well
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Inorite, only you seem to get it
The kitten was so not me
 
Sign you got back to your pre-Game-Over self. :D
 
Shrug
 
Shingles
 
Dingles
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou DON'T MOVE YOU'RE UNDER ARREST
 
9:20 PM
Mingling is STRICTLY PROHIBITED
 
With myself?!
:P
 
Ew.
Trying to clear that picture out of my head
 
Kosher everyone?
 
Anyway I went out to buy food and collect a delivery, was amazed how many people are still out, and how many shops are still open in my city. :/
People go out with their kids, like it's a pleasant holiday.
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou we have this "nature" day when everyone goes out to some desolate park and has some outdoors fun, nobody came out this year
But apparently yesterday they got restless and came out
 
9:23 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I keep Kosher, but my wife and kids don't. Same with my brother.
 
@M.A.R. yeah right... I can see you printing it. :D
@M.A.R. lol
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou so Kosher is like . . . a thing that you keep?
I thought it was equivalent to our halal. Food you're religiously allowed to eat
 
@M.A.R. heh. How many? Did police arrive?
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou They were never out, not here, I think
I'm never out so my only source would be telltales
But it's a pretty likely picture that they're snoozing for the most part
Unlike France's riot police demanding papers from every outsider
 
9:27 PM
@M.A.R. oh... that's the permanent thing and no, I don't really keep that. We have different Kosher definition for Passover, basically anything with flour that swells (I think that's the word? @Mith need some halp here ;)) is non-Kosher for Passover.
@M.A.R. it's only for food and yes, those who follow the Bible rules are also expected to eat only Kosher food.
There are many levels to this. :/
 
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Q: Virtual Pessah seder?

Maurice MizrahiToday (25 March 2020) a group of 14 Sephardic rabbis in Israel approved the holding of virtual seders, provided the video conference is operating before the start of Pessah and left running after the seder. The rabbis also said that this permission is “for emergency times only.” Their motivati...

 
I love Rinderbraten mit Rahmsosse :-D god knows!
 
@Alex nice find... though the Mass Seder I mentioned before won't be using a phone, "just" on TV.
 
so basically you can attend over the Internet, but only if you are certain you would have died of depression otherwise?
 
9:34 PM
and if you don't manage to get the stream running before sundown, you aren't allowed even that?
 
I expect Israel's bandwidth to go kapoot anyway during the Seder, with millions trying to connect in the same time.
It's like our official website for remote studies for the school students: it crashed on the first day it was used for real, and never fixed. So it was simply... ditched, replaced with bunch of other, private, websites.
Nobody here thinks ahead.
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Is this the first year they're having something like this? I'd imagine that even without quarantines there would be people (who would anyway use TV on Shabbat/holidays) that might be somewhat interested in a seder but don't know what to do on their own.
 
@Alex yes, totally the first time. People keep using Zoom and other platforms for live video calls during those quarantine days, but not all together in the same time.
Probably Zoom can reduce quality, like Netflix, to save some bandwidth.
They should publish a new ad "Every Bit Matters". :D
 
9:44 PM
been at a teleconference over Zoom, 50 participants, silky smooth, 3 Mbps. The first time we tried, it claimed I had low bandwidth and it dropped the video quality way low while keeping audio passable
today's meeting was without a hiccup
 
@Mithical Reminds me of someone who had a legal order to not touch or operate any electronic device. His wife would operate Netflix for him on his command and he'd just watch whatever she's watching
 
 
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10:59 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog kaboom
 
11:58 PM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou The issue: if you have a fast but bandwidth-limited connection, many platforms will just detect the fast connection and load high-bandwidth versions, eating away at your limited data.
 

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