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4:46 AM
Ben Popper on March 24, 2020
This week, we discussed how our dedicated community saved Stack Overflow from a serious certificate bug.
 
> There can only be so many commits in a committed relationship
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Q: Let's Encrypt certificate issue requiring urgent renewal

nyuszika7hStack Exchange's certificates are in need of renewal ASAP due to the Let's Encrypt CAA rechecking bug. They have sent out notification emails to affected users but I'm reporting this here just in case. https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/revoking-certain-certificates-on-march-4/114864 Revoki...

> If you’re cracking out an old computer to use for home schooling your children or lending to a neighbor, Paul asks you to consider that now, in this wild moment of uncertainty, an Ubuntu Linux machine might be just the solution you need.
I think I'll stick with a Commodore 64, thanks
 
does C64 even support a decent modem?
 
Rob
5:03 AM
Quick research says 38.4 in bursts, so I guess that's a no at 9600 sustained; as it's not particularly useful to be able to do nothing else but transfer the data.
 
5:18 AM
!!/watch 3MEDS
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#3778 for you.
 
5:58 AM
morning
soap is wreaking havoc on my hands. I'm supposed to wash thoroughly both before leaving the workstation to help someone and after coming back
and they started making us wear masks
 
 
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7:06 AM
@Rob There's a lot of problems in calculating it with that. It does seem like 4.3% would be the upper bound, but it could be 0,5% or even less for all we know because in many countries test shortages mean they only test people with severe symtoms. For instance as of last week here you needed fever, respiratory distress and a dry cough to be tested.
 
7:26 AM
@Magisch yeah, Can't you use disposable gloves instead?
I guess that is all in short supply
 
we have none, we can order none, no stores have any in the vicinity
in fact I'm pretty sure you can't even legally buy them right now because of rationing
 
I'm on one coffee, I need to wake up a bit
@Magisch true.
 
Rob
8:00 AM
@Magisch Those are yesterday's numbers, if the people who count the numbers are wrong you need to let them know; putting you in charge of the WHO will pay more than your current job.
 
No I mean the counting is probably accurate but the existing data is flawed
there is no way we have an accurate sample of the infected population right now. In my county there are 82 confirmed cases as of this morning. Over half of those are serious, they were tested because they were serious, if you just have a dry cough and mild fever you will not be tested here. Since we already know many (if not the majority) of non risk patients who get this thing don't go on to develop severe symptoms, that means that there is no way our test coverage is representative,
and the sample we have skews heavily towards worse outcomes.
like, if you have to be hospitalizes for pneumonia because of coronavirus, you have a worse surival chance then someone who sat it out at home without needing medical assistance. The person at home is allowed to stay home because of an abundance of caution, but we don't test them, so they don't show up in the case numbers, even though they could very well have it.
 
8:43 AM
@Magisch agree. Here they test only people who were nearby approved infected person, and they also test people who appear to be totally healthy, i.e. without any symptom. This leads to lots of infected people found (1.5K right now, and keep in mind total population is 8M) and low death rate. (1 or 2 for now.)
The trick is to find those who were in touch or nearby infected people.
In China it's super easy, they track everyone anyway via their phones.
So they started to do it here too, but bit too late.
 
8:55 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Oh the C64... brings me back to my childhood. Although I spent most of it playing on a Commodore Amiga.
 
@Magisch why not gloves?
@Gimby when I was a child (6 y/o or so) I had Atari for games and IBM XT for... other games. lol
Didn't really use the computer until I was 10 though, then also started to "learn" programming from books.
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou I also had an Atari 2600jr, in fact that is where it all went wrong :)
I think my parents got the Amiga because they realised that computers were there to stay so they got a second hand one for us early to play around with. Didn't take long before I was a computer nerd...
 
@Gimby hehe, nice!
I remember only one game on the console. something with alien ships in rows, that I have to shoot them all.
Dunno if we had more, that's the only one I remember.
On the PC, there were much more.
Xonix.... Digger.... Round 42.... argh... sweet old times. :D
 
9:41 AM
daaaaaaaaaaaaw
the kids dressed themselves
but both hae their stuff on back to front xD
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou That describes around 90% of the game catalog that Atari had ;)
But it sounds like Space Invaders
 
@djsmiley2kTMW how old are they?
My kids started at age of 4 or so...
@Gimby yeah, probably
Yes!! It is!
Anyway.... I'm now one of 610k people who joined the unemployment circle during March in Israel. Got a short grace period, which is now over. :(
Unemployment rate jumped from 7% to 20% in less than a month.
 
Damn :(
 
For now it's "only" a furlough (temporary leave of employees due to special needs of a company or employer) but chances of the company to survive are small. Small company, no reserve money or assets.
Well this now gets a different light:
Mar 21 at 9:55, by M.A.R.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou You don't need to transport it, just sell it
@M.A.R so, will you buy it? :D
I'll make you a special discount. 8%
 
10:28 AM
hah
normally we do these 10 min kids yoga vids for the kids
howver this one is 30min
bliss \o/
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou 3 and 6
My wife put some clothes out for them
and as they were both happily playing in daughters room, i came downstairs and expected them to come down at some point in PJ's
instead they both came down fully dressed, daughter helped 3yr old get dressed too
<proud>
 
@djsmiley2kTMW nice! My 7 y/o recently started to behave silly while dressing, put underwear on his head to make the young sister (3 y/o) laugh. Now that there's no time limit and everyone are down, I have no heart to make him stop. :D
 
11:22 AM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou :D yeah my kids do stuff like that too
hell, even I'm known to ;)
 
:D
Socks on hands?
 
nappy on head
 
Some comedians here use those as corona masks.
 
lol
Well my 3 y/o is essentially potty trained by now, but still wants to wear diaper when going to sleep, probably to feel safe. Both her brother and sister didn't have that phase.
So, soon no more nappies in our house. :)
!!/nappy
 
11:30 AM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou No such command 'nappy'.
 
 
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12:51 PM
@user229044 Ooh, nice.
 
Rob
1:50 PM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou You are mixing up the words ratio and rate, two different numbers. @Magisch if someone gets hit by a vehicle on the way to the hospital it's correct that the numbers won't be as precise as if we used the method that you and Shadow are keeping from the world; statistics are unkind, there's always a margin of error - and over/under-counting.
In epidemiology, the standardized mortality ratio or SMR, is a quantity, expressed as either a ratio or percentage quantifying the increase or decrease in mortality of a study cohort with respect to the general population. == Standardized mortality ratio == The standardized mortality ratio is the ratio of observed deaths in the study group to expected deaths in the general population. This ratio can be expressed as a percentage simply by multiplying by 100. The SMR may be quoted as either a ratio or a percentage. If the SMR is quoted as a ratio and is equal to 1.0, then this means the number of...
In epidemiology, a case fatality rate (CFR) — sometimes called case fatality risk or case fatality ratio — is the proportion of deaths from a certain disease compared to the total number of people diagnosed with the disease for a certain period of time. A CFR is conventionally expressed as a percentage and represents a measure of disease severity. CFRs are most often used for diseases with discrete, limited time courses, such as outbreaks of acute infections. A CFR can only be considered final when all the cases have been resolved (either died or recovered). The preliminary CFR, for example, during...
 
 
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4:59 PM
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@Rob meh.... it's skewed and incorrect anyway.
 
5:30 PM
@Rob he used "rate" correctly methinks, but he wasn't referring to any common technical variables in epidemic terminology
That question is closed now (by moderators or community), but - my guess - any thinking human being can ask this question in our pandemic times. I know this isn't the answer you're looking for, but it's what I end up telling people often. SE sites can either aim to be a good host for a narrow set of questions, or a bad host for most questions. Not both. — M.A.R. 2 mins ago
I almost sound profound
I usually explain these things to death, I like to hear myself type
. . . Like I'm doing now. Dangit.
I'll never be a yoda
 
Rob
6:01 PM
@M.A.R. Yoda you will be not.
 
@Rob You'd make a perfect Yoda you know
The only times that you don't sound mysterious or mystical you're being confusing
And there's this odd wisdom behind things you say
I think you predicated the apocalypse thrice, for example
 
Why has my avatar gone awol o_O
 
It's been quarantined
 
@djsmiley2kStaysInside No repro.
 
Rob
6:15 PM
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7:11 PM
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@rene I screwed up.
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8:58 PM
Jascha Drel on March 24, 2020
Today, we want to share the release of Report this Ad, a new beta feature that gives you even more control over your advertising experience by allowing you to easily flag an ad on our network.
 
Let's all recall that this feature existed from 2011 before it was removed in 2015.
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9:52 PM
@rene why
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog never noticed to be honest, could we also give reason and screenshot like it's possible now?
 
10:11 PM
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou If you SEDE query my comments for "Adzerk", you'll find what you're looking for.
 
Oh... So it was likely internal Adzerk reporting tool, not made by SE. No?
 
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou There used to be a feature to "thumb up" or "thumb down" an ad. That feature was lost when SE moved from Adzerk to Google DFP (because Adzerk was changing its business model to one that would be incompatible with SE). Clicking the "thumb down" button would report the ad as well as make it not show for that specific user.
There was no option to explain why the ad was inappropriate, just that it was so.
But still, there was a way to indicate so.
 

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