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@ShadowThePrincessWizard chewing noises
Ryan Donovan on December 12, 2019

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@Hitodama I am fascinated, but I have no clue what I'm looking at :)
oh, I thought it was two guys on horses
15:10
I bet still no clue. ;)
Time for my 5 o'clock coffee and hummus.
no wonder, the source image is already pretty unclear to me :) Apparently it's a cracked helm I can read in the knitting post.
someone from Arqade could actually recognize the picture.
anyway, unrelated...
@Feeds ^ white coffee mugs?
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Israel / Jordan?
oh, I thought it was a motorbike
@StopHarmingMonica Israel, yup
Fun? In a non-Tavern room?!
Always love those :)
@ShadowThePrincessWizard No such command 'fun'.
15:33
@ShadowThePrincessWizard No such command 'hats'.
o_O
!!/winter bash
@ShadowThePrincessWizard No such command 'winter'.
I'm impressed with the speed of status tags being added. Kudos to Yaakov.
@Tinkeringbell now I get it... you love it because you get to stab something..... :P
@Mithical same was with Oded, pretty sure of that.... Fastest Dev in The West... :D
15:46
@Mithical Yaakov is really, really trying. My heart goes out to the poor guy.
Yeah. I kinda want to head down and buy him a coffee.
*calculating route* ...about four hours by bus.
hmmmm
we could all buy him some cake.
@ShadowThePrincessWizard I guess nobody bothered to uncomment it this year.
@djsmiley2k-CoW Sure. Y'all chip in for the cake and I'll bring it over :P
@Mithical well... you can.... can't you?
No, I don't have code access. I have blacklist access.
15:56
But you keep changing the blame command...
...which I haven't used in forever, but...
@ShadowThePrincessWizard That anybody can do... it's built in so that you can direct the blame with an invisible Unicode character.
!!/blame᠎ ​
@Mithical It's Jeff Atwood's fault.
@Mithical but how you decide who will be blamed with a single character?
I don't pretend to understand how it works, ask quartata.
@quar who?
!!/whois quartata
uh oh
!!/blame someone
15:59
*checks* now known as "a spaghetto".
@ShadowThePrincessWizard It's Jenna Sloan's fault.
He's the one who built that function.
iBug built the userscript that I use to direct it.
What's the name of the function?
16:00
"blame" ;)
Oh, the whole blame... thought you meant only the ability to blame fixed people. ;)
So it was there in the code from the beginning?? Awesome easter egg!
No, it was added when a spaghetto refactored Smokey a couple years ago
Not the blame command itself, the ability to control the blame. :)
Here's the relevant bit in the codebase.
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
JAD
JAD
16:05
looks like it translates it to a base-7 encoding of the victim's chat user id?
Coool
lol worth taking deeper look sometimes.
@user400654 🐒->🐙->🐼->🐌->🐉->🦏->🐊-> 💯⏱️🎷
@Hitodama that's all of them?
@ShadowThePrincessWizard I guess only @Yaakow knows
16:14
@ShadowThePrincessWizard also... you probably are the only one who got the reference. So, no spoiling.
2 1/2 hours of meeting followed immediately by giving a presentation and then, nightmarishly, another meeting
time to get lots of ibuprofen
Let me guess, those meetings are a lot of talk about stuff that needs to happen but won't actually result in stuff happening because nobody will feel responsible
(reasoning: those are the type of meetings that I need painkillers for)
16:36
no they were productive meetings
I just have an allergy against people talking over each other
2+ people talking gives me a splitting headache in no time flat
oh yes
 
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@ShadowThePrincessWizard It turns out there is a way to search all watched tags on a specific site. gaming.stackexchange.com/unanswered/tagged?tab=mytags
19:41
yawn
how goes it
I've voted, not that I feel it'll perticularly help anything.
for anyone who in't aware, it's voting day in the UK.
@djsmiley2k-CoW Hopfully you didn't vote for one of these blonde or greyheard idiots :-P
My technique for deciding who to vote for is simple: I pile up all the campaign literature I've received, and vote for whoever has the shortest stack.
19:57
@djsmiley2k-CoW isn't johnson predicted to win by a landslide?
@user400654 Many of these ....
@user400654 I can't help but notice the sheep's bottom is shaped weirdly.
Very spastic
📤👍
✔ ✍
20:07
@Mark Thus Let's get Brexit done would win in this case?
Seems a bit of a too simplistic descision technique for me.
The only habits you can keep are the simple ones.
@M.A.R. Sure, let's support all those bloody populists.
@M.A.R. Excuse me, are you eyeing @user400654's sheep's bottom?
Not much need to think over.
20:32
@πάνταῥεῖ well, over here, thankfully the candidates suck so much that it's a new level: I have no way to tell one from another and I won't have to bother thinking about them.
@Rubiksmoose I'm just a concerned veterinarian
@Magisch don't know, don't really care.
He can't do what he's claimed he will, just like the rest.
if he wins, he'll fail to get brexit done, and it'll swing back to labour in 4 years (or sooner after he fails yet again)
iif he loses, labour takes over, fails to get brexit done, Torys blame labour, and it swings back to them instead.
Eitherway, we lose.
Oh look you're just like us Britain
:D
politics is broken in a major way
and while I personally can see a solution, those in power are doing well to discredit anything computer based.
Not a conspiricy, just..... business as usual.
I mean was it always like this? I say this as a newbie to the . . . world. Was the same hateful indecision rampant in deciding who to vote for in, say, 1996 US elections?
I don't think it's been.... so bad, in the past
maybe I'm wrong. I don't know
20:46
eh, just looking at the US elections, it's certainly been a while since so much misinformation was presented as true. It has effectively rendered the press useless for getting facts to the end user... people only want to hear the "facts" that support their side.
i don't follow politics outside the us... so can't really compare that to eu/etc
i stil feel like this is down to the stupid idea, when i was at school, that there's no winners and losers
oh, there is huge misinformation now
but.... our PM, stood, with a Bus saying £200mil a week for the NHS
then turned around and said "No, i didn't do that, I didn't say that"
and this is our prime minister (so analogs to the President)
and people STILL want to vote for him and his party.
Oh he analogs alright
LOL look Boris on TV
If you disregard the real-life consequences, and the bitter truth is politics is as close as it gets to fate and you don't really have a sway, then I guess treating it as a form of entertainment is best for the mind
yah well...
yeah I tend to laugh at how hopeless it all is XD
Our media is very concerned with Brexit for some reason
watched a little bit of the debate this morning (house debate), that's got some comedic value
20:50
It does feel like, the older I get, the more I learn about governments, the less I want to know
I wonder, how people can so easily and demonstrably lie, and still have support
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"All governments are mucked up"
My educated guess is it's their oh-look everything-is-on-fire it's-not-just-us gesture of goodwill
"i'd like x added to the record" "granted" "i'd like x removed from the record" "granted"
@Magisch this :/
@Magisch this :/
20:51
@Magisch Quite true :S
I think we're having elections for the third time soon. Since we seem to be incapable of forming a coalition to run the country. The voting places are running out of supplies.
the common argument i hear for that is that "all politicians lie"... which i agree with to an extent... but never at this level
@Mithical Meh boring. You don't have a particularly funny host of the show
@user400654 It is striking to me as to why though, everyone I know at least somewhat values honesty, it seems to me that blatantly and undeniably lying would be disqualifying to someone seeking a position of public trust
@user400654 If they don't lie how do they sleep
20:54
but it just doesn't seem to matter
somehow, people stick with their candidates anyways
yup
this I don't understand :/
and I feel like this is why Corbyn won't ever win
he won't stoop too low
He's on TV and he now looks like a homeless Santa Klaus
I can confirm
How cold is it there?
Kelvin?
@Mithical yes it's final. In 2020-03-02
@M.A.R. Kevin
21:01
@ShadowThePrincessWizard ...that one better work out, because if it doesn't, then by the time the fourth one rolls around I'll be old enough to vote.
You'll be 18 by then?
Maccabi just beat CSKA
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Not by March, no.
@Mithical huh? Let me check
21:02
....no, I mean, I won't be 18 by March.
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Which one?
But if that election in March doesn't result in a functioning government, and we go to elections yet again, I will be able to vote.
@Mithical Aww
Pinches @Mith's cheek
21:04
Which cheek? ;)
@Mithical Israeli citizen also?
*rolls eyes at @Sha*
*slaps @M.A.R.*
@πάνταῥεῖ yup, but unlike me he wasn't born in Israel
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes. I'm a dual citizen of Israel and the US.
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Does that matter for voting?
21:05
envying @Mith
@πάνταῥεῖ nope
Might matter if joining politics, not sure.
*shrugs* I have no plans for getting into politics, so...
@M.A.R. Brexit is good for Iran, one less enemy... :/
@Mithical you say it now... ;)
@StevoisiaksupportsMonica nice!
@Mithical Young people should engage IMO. We're just old and tired of it :-P ...
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Meh, for us, one head you cut and two more shall take its place.
21:09
@Mithical Then what am I supposed to do with all these "Elect Mithical" posters I had printed?
@Rubiksmoose Wait until MSE runs elections? :P
@Rubiksmoose He's just playing hard-to-elect
The problem with politics in general is the lack of accountability for all of them.
@Hitodama sure, I know the reference! :P
They do whatever they want, and the people that elected them in the first place have no recourse in the moment to rectify the situation.
21:10
@Mithical hahaha
So come election time, it's faded from collective memory, and they get off scot-free.
@M.A.R. not when the Hydra cuts itself from the inside
@M.A.R. Well, they are doing it well judging by their lack of elected status!
they're gonna start learning, the internet never forgets.
the internet may not forget, but people do stop caring
21:11
Internet is also full with fake news...
not sure if talking about brexit,, or se..
all of it
i guess
But they're real fake news
@djsmiley2k-CoW why_not_both.gif
21:12
good think you put a hypen in there.
@ShadowThePrincessWizard You're being very Sha-ey today.
Shy?
@djsmiley2k-CoW Nah missing a "s" ;)
@djsmiley2k-CoW could do some fun thing by moving that hyphen around too.
@M.A.R. never
Sha-Brave-Ward
@Rubiksmoose tru dat
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Derp's you're-so-uncouth has never been so much needed
21:14
The t is happy
@M.A.R. he's away
He's never online in such hours... ;)
Just to mention: I am not so happy with the political choices in my country (Germany) as well.
Most people aren't happy with it, which makes me wonder why we choose democracy... But meh... Nothing we can do.
@Mithical Not me, the SE-xit guy!
21:19
@ShadowThePrincessWizard It's probably still the lesser evil.
Did you get a license from @Hito?
@ShadowThePrincessWizard In fact, didn't the Greek themselves end up concluding democracy is not so cool?
I guess we've been played by populists for so long a time we tell ourselves lies like this.
@πάνταῥεῖ maybe... I'll support in someone like @Mithical as a dictator
:D
No bloody hell no
21:21
Hail @Bart
eh, it's only the lesser evil if your party wouldn't be the one in power
Those glasses sound like they're about the fall off
Unless they're glued there, which, oof, sounds a bit painful
Well they have no temples.
@Mithical What does the pony's religion have to do with anything? ;)
21:27
....wow. The last time someone made that pun to me was... 10 years ago, when I first got my glasses and the temple broke off.
Well that's pretty much me in a nutshell isn't it? Dusty old finely aged optometrist puns and dad jokes.
I'm not complaining
Old school is the best school
@M.A.R. I am not so sure about that. Old school will preach all the old behaviors forever, even if the circumstances would change.
@πάνταῥεῖ Uh, why are you overgeneralizing everything I'm saying today. I feel like I'm in a court.
21:38
*cue @M.A.R. getting smacked in the head by a tennis ball*
*lawyers yelling for interrupting*
*people scrambling to find their engagement rings*
I can get out of goofy mode but then I'd be a pretty boring person
@Mithical Your wizardry is no longer shadowed from my sight!
@Mithical steals ring of power
It's not charged, I'm afraid.
And one of the ports I think is broken?
Ah yes, the One Engagement Ring, for when you want to marry Sauron.
We shouldn't have tried to fit the ocean liner in there, but...
Meh, I use it as a projectile weapon
21:42
I remember when I locked celebrimbor inside of sauron in a nightmarish state of living death
@Mithical I'm not sure which ring you're thinking of but you were probably handed a cheap Chinese copy
This one here is solar-powered
It's bed o'clock. I best be sleeping. \o
👋
In fact, I should get some slee . . . I mean, spend some time online with lights off
22:23
@Mithical so early?? :(
@M.A.R. what's done in Darkness stays in Darkness
What's happening? I just earned six Announcer badges at practically the same time.
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Q: Missing publicist badge?

aioobeI've had a link on my webpage to one of my StackOverflow answers for a long time now. For fun, I track it with Google Analytic events, so I know for sure that I've received more than 1000 clicks. Yet I haven't even gotten a booster badge for it. Here's a screenshot for the click events from Goog...

tl;dr the counters have been broken for a while. Now they are fixed and improved.
@Rubiksmoose Thanks.
23:11
That explains all the badges
I'm sad this got declined
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Q: Make the mobile apps open source!

Patrick HofmanSince the apps aren't maintained any more, and probably won't in the near future, many users are waiting for bug fixes or new form factors to be supported. If the SE development team is too busy with other projects, why not outsource the development to the community? Why not make the apps open s...

@StevoisiaksupportsMonica it was never likely
And 21 more Announcer badges. Most of which are probably duplicates with badges that I've already got for the question, I'm getting them for the answer this time, and they'll remove them later, according to that post.
@JourneymanGeek I didn't think it'd be approved, but I was hopeful
And now a silver Booster badge, which came with a hat.
This one isn't a duplicate though, so I'll get to keep the badge and the hat.
There's not much it's good for now but mobile notifications imo
But that is essential for me
23:26
@b_jonas Remove them? No? You can keep badges based on post, not question, so you can get the same badge multiple times for the same question if you share the question and the answer... or even sharing multiple answers.
I still use the mobile app actively
I use it all the time.
@Catija I think they remove it if I shared only an answer, and I had gotten the badge for the question, and now get the badge for the answer.
But I might have misunderstood the post.
> With the change in the logic it does mean that some users were awarded badges that would no longer qualify - since we're no longer aggregating up to the question. These numbers were very small, so we are not going to be revoking any badges due to the change in logic.
(Emphasis added)
Ooh, fun, I've got two Announcer badges for sharing a post that is now deleted.
@Catija That's for when someone shares both the question and an answer, and they would only get Announcer when you total them. That's not what I'm talking about.
23:35
Ah, I see, the last paragraph.
Well, I trust Taryn :D
Here's an example: I got an Announcer badge for mathoverflow.net/q/53122/5340 in 2017 because I shared an answer, and now I got an Announcer badge for the answer mathoverflow.net/a/53738/5340 too.
Those are dupes, and I expect that most of the Announcer badges that I just got are dupes; the only ones that aren't dupes are the ones that I should have gotten within a few months but didn't because of a bug.
Admittedly this won't happen to everyone, I know I'm one of the most announcing users on Sci Fi, I've checked that on data.stackexchange at some point.
It looks like most of those 20 Announcer badges that I just got on Sci Fi now are awarded mistakenly and will be removed.
The one I just got on Anime SE looks like a dupe that will be removed too.
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