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Alex

12:00 AM

Is this really status-completed ?

More like status-no-repro maybe?

Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog

@Alex Yes, it is; the change to reputation gain on upvotes was increased on Meta.SE.

Journeyman Geek

eh, its done everywhere

and tbh, I think we have more to do than quibble over tagging accuracy

Alex

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog But you specifically called it a standalone request.

@JourneymanGeek I guess that makes me... bored?

Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog

@Alex But the point is, the request was implemented. It may not have been as a result of that feature request, but it was implemented.

Journeyman Geek

I... am not. Maybe I am.

I'm not even sure at this point

also, no better way to get a feature implimented than to ask for something everyone knows is happening anyway

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Alex

12:09 AM

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog I don’t know if that counts as implemented, so much as superceded and rendered irrelevant.

Rob

12:50 AM

and that post took the heat with 11+/39- for a -28 score.

Kevin B

1:13 AM

+32*

Journeyman Geek

Yup.

user602663

1:42 AM

Hey!

Tanner Swett

I just read the "An Update to our Community and an Apology" post again. Yeesh, that's bad.

I wonder why that post hasn't been deleted.

I know that SE doesn't want to talk about such-and-such for fear of worsening their legal position.

But surely deleting that post would only make things better, not worse.

user602663

1:58 AM

@TannerSwett do you have an idea about the reputation boost? I woke up this morning, wanting to check my post and then I get bombarded with awards - I'm happy though :)

Tanner Swett

@Elfvia Yeah, reputation was recalculated because upvotes on questions are now worth 10 instead of 5.

user602663

Wow! That's so cool!

user602663

Then how come on all the communities I have 100 more rep?

user602663

(and on Sci-Fi and Fantasy as well)

user602663

Is the reason why some people are leaving SE because they fired Monica....?

Journeyman Geek

2:02 AM

@TannerSwett damned if you do, damned if you don't. If its deleted SE gets accused of trying to hide things. if it isn't people have something to get grumpy at. They are grumpy anyway

@Elfvia 100 reputation bonus if you have more than 200 on one site.

user602663

Oh, that's cool!

user602663

Then what about that Monica thing?

user602663

And members in 'outrage'?

Journeyman Geek

Its been explained a lot. What's not clear about it?

user602663

2:25 AM

@JourneymanGeek all I've been doing was asking questions - that's what Stack Overflow / Exchange is for, not discussing SE matters - which is exactly why I haven't heard it :)

Journeyman Geek

@Elfvia and most people do

But its fairly well documented on meta. Maybe a little too much so

so rather than going through all of it again - it might be nice to just focus on what you want to know, specifically

user602663

@JourneymanGeek I was just wondering about that sorry

user602663

Just want to know what SE did

user602663

that everyone is upset about

Journeyman Geek

Ah, so we need to start at the start.

Mind if I just link you the relevant stuff off meta?

user602663

2:28 AM

Yeah, sure!

Journeyman Geek

Now. I'm pretty sympathetic with Monica - so I'd start here meta.stackexchange.com/q/336526/135565 and meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333965/… here

On the longer term, there's essentially an ongoing break between the SE community and the folks who run it and we don't talk as much as we used to, and folks higher up kinda... well seem at odds with us.

On the short term, its just a series of actions that don't seem to have the results the folks who run the company want, seem to often lack follow up, and make things difficult

user602663

Oh

user602663

No wait - is that Monica's account?

user602663

I mean that posted it?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

That's one side of the story sure but things like SO Inc talking to the register and such is a matter of record

user602663

2:38 AM

Wow... Thanks for filling me in, @JourneymanGeek!

Journeyman Geek

Sorry it's not in more detail. This and the surrounding drama has been a big chunk of my time and energy the last few weeks.

justcool393

4:03 AM

it's been... interesting to follow

it somewhat reminds me of the whole blackout that happened in 2015 on Reddit after the firing of Victoria Taylor

except that SE somehow handled it worse than Reddit

user602663

4:30 AM

Never heard about that, @justcool393.

user602663

@JourneymanGeek that's okay, it's enough :)

Meta Andrew T.

5:00 AM

!!/test eelphone

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

Journeyman Geek

5:41 AM

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justcool393

@Elfvia yeah basically what happened was back in 2015, the liaison for AMAs on Reddit, Victoria Taylor (/u/chooter), unexpectedly was let go by Alexis Ohanian (/u/kn0thing). the subreddit /r/IAmA, one of the biggest subreddits, went private to reorganize and other subreddits, given the bad treatment of moderators from the site employees/administrators took their subreddits private as well

there is actually some tensions on Reddit now due to their recent harassment policy, but it's hard to say when or if that will bubble up

i did a writeup on the /r/SubredditDrama subreddit

reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3caka7/recap_amageddon

user602663

6:03 AM

@justcool393 that's a lot of drama

justcool393

yeah indeed it was

John Dvorak

6:18 AM

No blackout here though

Journeyman Geek

6:45 AM

Wasn't an option I guess. We can't set our sites private

rene

7:13 AM

→ 9 messages moved to Chimney

JAD

7:32 AM

@Elfvia sounds like the change in question rep from 5 to 10 put you over 200 for the first time. As a result you get a free 100 rep on every other account (so that you get basic privileges on all sites)

user602663

@JAD ooohh cool!

mag

8:03 AM

morning

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