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@user1306322 it's a problem in Wikipedia that very very very vaguely resembles current events here

but then I'm rereading his comments and I think he actually meant the question title and the question in the body are not technically phrased to be asking about SE explicitly...

why would he rule lawyer like this then if almost everybody would still read it the same way anyway

Rubiksmoose

@user1306322 I'd argue that people aren't actually reading the question the same way as before the edit. I'd also argue that people seemed to barely pay attention to what was asked the first time and are also continuing that trend.

IMO most answers don't actually answer either question.

@JourneymanGeek I agree that the situations are not too similar, but they are also pretty alike in certain ways, and that's good enough for me to consider an interesting and useful topic of discussion to learn how we can improve or avoid similar situations in the future

@Rubiksmoose I think some people have already decided what they want to read the question being about, and will not want to change their perception of it, to pursue their individual agendas, which may include (but not limited to) trying to improve the site, helping the community, just creating more drama, preventing similar things in the future, etc

there's gonna be something for everyone :p

1:30 AM

Does there?

unless mods decide to mod more heavily

3 of 4 is good.

Rubiksmoose

@user1306322 Right. And that's a problem that rears its head even in normal focused questions. When you get a loaded question that is wide-open and only vaguely to do with SE people can, do, and have just done whatever they wanted with it. It has made the problem a lot worse because it is not a good question for this site.

@user1306322 we mod as needed.

I think I've asked most of the questions I wanted by now, and stated my position in enough ways on the site proper, now I only have technical questions remaining or broader questions which I try to bring into chat when I can figure out enough details about them

I don't know if chat can handle more broad discussions though

we all live on the same internet, our paths cross daily unbeknownst to each other anyway :p

1:57 AM

@JourneymanGeek does the no Kali questions, probably anywhere, still apply, and where's a polite explanation?

I'm on my phone. Feel free to comment

K

Or gimme 20 min or so to get home and deal

Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog

I'm on my phone too, waiting for Milan, and a choice of PCIe 4.0 MBs. I'll take a look around.

@JourneymanGeek Left a comment on meta.stackexchange.com/questions/338713/…

2:10 AM

@JourneymanGeek, they deleted on Meta, but had already asked on SO - I offered this advice which points to the polite explanation.

Holy crap, this search userscript by @SamuelLiew is amazing!

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@SamuelLiew the advanced search is really nice. However, using Tampermonkey on Firefox, the searching on the parent meta/meta just searches on the child site. Am I using the wrong script manager?

2:29 AM

thanks

the dropdown selector may be a little buggy since the change to the search UI (when the search button was removed)

I haven't got around to fixing it yet

@SamuelLiew Ok cool

With regards to the other script that doesn’t affect anything, what extension are these designed to be used with?

Wtf autocorrect XD

I primarily develop the userscripts in Win10+Chrome

If there's a FF bug just let me know by creating an issue in the repo

2:48 AM

@Stormblessed Have you tried ChatImprovements yet? Many improvements including the way links are displayed in chat, as well as a proper user list with usernames, and top bar, (etc.). I would love feedback if you do use it

@SamuelLiew yep but just wondering which manager they definitely should work on in Chrome?

oh Tampermonkey

OK I’m done with what I’m doing I’ll go update Tampermonkey now to see if that makes the 10K Script work

because it's also supported on FF mobile, which I have some of my userscripts installed

@SamuelLiew wait...you can use some userscripts on FF mobile?! Safari has nothing like that that I’ve figured out

That’s cool

2:57 AM

@Stormblessed the 10k Tools US works on FF/Chrome + Win 10 + Tampermonkey

yeah so I can handle some flags on mobile too, and make chat more usable

Yup I’ll update the add on to the latest version in a minute

@SamuelLiew ugh I hate the mobile transcript

Any script for that?

ChatImprovements...

Oh yes cool

Oh damn ios Firefox doesn’t have extensions :(

oh and LightboxImages as well as ChatTranscriptHelper and NoOneboxesInChat. All my userscripts are compatible with each other

sorry to hear that 😂

Cool userscripts rock :)

3:00 AM

I'm an android user

I really like Firefox but on iPhone safari is so integrated into the OS and it’s pretty nice

Also passwords

Oh wait nowadays you can use the keychain in any app! That’s cool

3:17 AM

Is Ecosia good, or is it like the charity tab thing that makes stuff way slower with ads and stuff?

Wow! Chat Improvements is cool!

Very nice top bar

@SamuelLiew Feedback: the Chat.SE,.SO, and .MSE names are weirdly covered by some black text in This Is Fine and other Arqade rooms. Not sure why

very cool though

example.com

link expander doesn't work?

Love that there are page buttons on the recent tab in Chat with the Chat script @SamuelLiew

Kevin B

3:52 AM

i don't see any of those buttons

4:53 AM

@Stormblessed that looks like text shadow implemented by a custom stylesheet just for those sites

I can remove the shadows. Link expander works for longer link-only links

E.g.: meta.stackexchange.com/… => https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/338713

shows you more context instead of just the three dots

I'm going to drop a bunch of links here, test with and without the userscript enabled and see the difference.

reddit.com/r/australia/comments/d8s3hc/…

gov.uk/make-a-freedom-of-information-request

letsrecycle.com/councils/league-tables/…

stackoverflow.com/admin/users/1114/post-comments

stackoverflow.com/users/2263683/…

. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/388158/…

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/388158/…

. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/51270124#51270124

. chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570/so-close-vote-reviewers

5:09 AM

@KevinB the script adds them

@SamuelLiew what's that link about?

@SamuelLiew ok. Is it supposed to have some dots on really long ones? The reddit one is shown as reddit.com/r/australia/comments/…/australian_government_seen_globally_as_climate

@SamuelLiew is that TL?

5:56 AM

@Stormblessed the one on main chat, sure