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No Distraction Wizard

1:08 AM

Riot morning... Protesters Burn Brimob Dormitory Building in Tanah Abang

Adviced to work from home... 😣

user302202

2:18 AM

@NoDistractionWizard Turns out, not necessarily so.

user302202

@GregHewgill All users should see the same number of ads regardless of reputation level during the experiment phase. Once the necessary data and metrics have been gathered, we can start the discussion for reducing ads for trusted, active, high reputation users. — Juan M ♦ 5 hours ago

forest

ouch

So it sounds like the bar for reduced ads might be raised considerably.

Thank god for ad block.

No Distraction Wizard

@VoteDukakis hmm, does it mean it might be the first site to have ads enabled but no "reduced ads" privilege..?

in another words, no existing site with ads but not the privilege?

user302202

Along with TWP, Photography, and Money - the other three sites with the ad experiment.

user302202

Two of the more active non-tech sites - English and Math - are still ad-free.

user302202

2:22 AM

Yes, to my knowledge the 200 rep => reduced ads works for all sites that currently carry ads.

user302202

I don't know what messing with 200 rep cutoff really brings, what % of traffic are those users anyway? Also considering that the repeat showing of the same ad to the same active user is not what advertisers are paying for.

forest

I imagine the vast majority of ad traffic comes from unregistered users.

No Distraction Wizard

Also, it only reduces the leaderboard ads since the sidebar ads will always be shown

and if "high reputation" means "200 rep"

user302202

"start the discussion for reducing ads for trusted, active, high reputation users" does not sound like "reduce ads for 200 rep" to me.

No Distraction Wizard

So, they must be trusted (the privilege?), and also active (visit x consecutive days?), and also have high rep (10k?).

forest

2:33 AM

It's not that big a deal because of adblockers.

I mean, most users are going to be using them anyway.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

IIRC when reaching 200 rep, you're only shown in-house or Community Promotion Ads.

forest

This will just cause people to remove SE from their exceptions list.

No Distraction Wizard

The algorithm might end more complex than the vote reversal script

forest

Is the vote reversal script really complex though?

Journeyman Geek

@forest SE dosen't really care if you adblock.

@forest probably not

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

2:34 AM

Never seen a paid ad on Stack Overflow or Super User since reaching 200 rep there

forest

@JourneymanGeek Yeah I read the blog post on that.

No Distraction Wizard

It's even noted on the "reduced ads" privilege

> We want to emphasize that you should only re-enable banner ads if you want to see them, not because you're trying to support us financially. In fact, it doesn't really do us any good to show you ads for products that you don't want to engage with. So make the decision that's best for you, and that's the one that's best for us too.

user302202

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Try opening a question page and looking at the right sidebar.

user302202

I get MS Azure (+ SO jobs) on AU, where I have > 200 rep.

user302202

Right sidebar ads are not affected by 200 rep level

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

2:37 AM

@VoteDukakis Technically SO Jobs is in-house

No Distraction Wizard

Ha! I also get MS Azure ads in my native language :D

Or, well, the only ads on SE network that is in my native language...

Megan Risdal

3:58 AM

Shall I remove the "bug" tag to make room? :thinking:

No Distraction Wizard

@MeganRisdal I think since uploader implies "image uploader", removing images might be preferable

Megan Risdal

Solid. Thanks!

No Distraction Wizard

No prob :)

Megan Risdal

And yes this was 100% my tongue-in-cheek way of verifying the fix ;)

No Distraction Wizard

Heh :D

Megan Risdal

4:09 AM

Just doing some late nite bug triaging. We have, umm, one or two things on our bug backlog ... o__o

No Distraction Wizard

(if it was possible to remove the "bug" tag and applied the edit on that post, then it might be considered as a new bug instead though :p)

Megan Risdal

4:35 AM

Is it helpful for me to mark duplicate bug reports as "status-completed" or is it enough for the canonical bug report to be updated? Example: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/324962/…

Catija

@MeganRisdal You can't. Bug is required.

Rob

There's often an exception that you need to carefully look for.

No Distraction Wizard

Some dupes also got tagged with [tag:status-*], but I'm not sure about the "protocol" :/

Megan Risdal

Unless I'm mistaken (very possible), that discrepancy is resolved with the new custom question list feature that we're rolling out.

Okay--fair enough. I won't sweat it too much for now then. Thanks @NoDistractionWizard!

forest

Why does the developer survey include things like sexual preference?

It doesn't seem relevant at all. Gender I can understand, but sexual preference?

Rob

4:50 AM

Relevant to what... exactly?

forest

To searching for jobs or development practices.

It seems about as relevant as favorite color.

Rob

It's not a survey about searching for jobs or development practices, though

forest

But it's asked on a site about software development.

I dunno, to me it just feels as weird as if a forum related to sex created a survey that asked people their favorite programming language.

Rob

It's a survey of the people in software development, not a survey about software development

forest

huh

Rob

4:54 AM

It's not "preference", it's identity. One could be any of several groups or a combination and either have a specific preference or none whatsoever.

forest

It had preference as well, i.e. straight vs gay vs bi.

Rob

Oh, I thought you were referring to the image in the Blog post, not a drilled down reference.

forest

oh no I didn't see that image

Rob

Gender did make a difference, perhaps they either wanted to determine if preferance made a difference or leave no stone unturned and none excluded.

forest

5:17 AM

Oh that makes sense I guess.

Journeyman Geek

5:52 AM

@forest cause demographics are useful

@MeganRisdal I donno if you guys have magic powers but meta has a few "compulsory" tags - and bug's one.

Megan Risdal

Got it. Learned a thing today. Thanks! :)

Journeyman Geek

This is unique to meta, and most of us learn it cause the software yells at us when we don't realise ;p

Catija

6:18 AM

As far as I'm aware, even we are required to use one of the four required tags.

No Distraction Wizard

imagining "Bug: [bug] tag is missing!"

Shadow Wizard

7:20 AM

@rene eaten by the dog... :D

rene

We need to walk the dog more often

Rob

JT can tell their teacher that the dog ate their homework.

Mithrandir

7:44 AM

@canon Finally, someone else who can wiggle their ears!

Juan getting philosophical on the podcast...

Shadow Wizard

lol

Margarine

@Mithrandir Huh, thought Jon is charge of that

Mithrandir

8:03 AM

Although I'm afraid that @Jon is incorrect claiming that the topbar is a "striking black". Luckily, I'm using a script to fix that. Especially on Science Fiction & Fantasy, it's a bit annoying that it's not actually black... :P

Looking forwards to Abby's potatoes.

Magisch

stack exchange dark mode ftw

Mithrandir

8:36 AM

Oh, hey @MeganRisdal. Nice to see you in the Tavern! Welcome. :) (Also, I just happened to notice that your Medium profile still says you work for Kaggle. Just an FYI.)

Shadow Wizard

She's even listening to plz-fix-this rant here... :P

Mithrandir

Just went to Medium, checked notifications, noticed she clapped for my story, went to her profile, followed her, noticed the outdated info, remembered she was in here, decided to ping... :P

Shadow Wizard

So the ping was essentially meant to make her change her Medium profile? ;)

Margarine

The methodology is sound but the conclusions seems shaky at best.

Shadow Wizard

No PM/DM/Comments on Medium itself? @Mith (sorry @Mithrandir24601 lol ;))

Mithrandir

8:48 AM

*shrug*

Shadow Wizard

*shogs*

Margarine

@ShadowWizard I dunno how he can sleep at night, causing Mith24601 so many pings.

Magisch

@ShadowWizard be careful, remember what happened to 1-8

Mithrandir

@Margarine Look, I was here first. ;)

Magisch

and you were blue first

these days saying "the blue mith" doesn't help anymore

Mithrandir

8:52 AM

People kept mixing us up so much that he ended up with a diamond...

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Does though... there's only one with a blue skinned avatar ;)

Magisch

Thats a new development though

also I believe the technically correct term is avazulatar

Shadow Wizard

@Margarine who says he's sleeping at night? Might be sleeping during the day like @Journeyman. ;)

@Magisch each got to a final ending

Margarine

@ShadowWizard well if they were normal humans having been blue for so long they would have suffocated already. They really are vampires.

Mithrandir

@Margarine I got asked yesterday if I had taken a bet to eat as much garlic as possible or if I was just really scared of vampires.

....I like to put garlic on stuff.

Margarine

8:56 AM

Poor guy, doesn't know he's a vamp.

The first stage of grief is denial.

Mithrandir

I know, I just wrote about it.

Or, well, actually, it's stages of death, not grief, but... whatever.

Margarine

Death . . . grief. Technicalities

Mithrandir

(I was just researching the Kubler-Ross model.)

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir my 2 y/o daughter love garlic cheese (fat cheese, 30%)

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard grilled cheese garlic bread

Shadow Wizard

8:59 AM

yummy

Mithrandir

put cheese on bread, sprinkle garlic liberally on top, stick in toaster oven for 5 minutes. lunch.

Margarine

OK, Hebrew vamps are upside down.

Shadow Wizard

Yay! So much food in star wall now. :P

@Margarine ?thanks!

Margarine

I like garlic but not having to go to the bathroom every 5 minutes for 2 hours after food is over.

Shadow Wizard

@Margarine huh? Why's that?

Margarine

9:01 AM

You tell me

Magisch

@Mithrandir thats when you go big or home, whole garlic clove for a sandwich

Shadow Wizard

Eat lots of garlic, never had anything like that. It's you, not the garlic. :D

Margarine

Or your garlics are wusses.

John Dvorak

11:20 AM

Oops! Something bad happened on math.se!

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak There's probably more sites where something bad happens from time to time. ;)

John Dvorak

Sure, but the SE server doesn't usually notice. This time it told me.

Tinkeringbell

Things do seem rather slow, but that might be my internet, the company VPN, or something bad. But the site is working here.

Mithrandir24601

@ShadowWizard I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't mind getting such pings - I quite enjoy sending random irrelevant comments :P

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir24601 you're odd just like me! (hope it's a compliment? ;))

No Distraction Wizard

11:41 AM

Random very relevant comment here.

John Dvorak

I'm so odd I don't even

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No Distraction Wizard

12:21 PM

Hmm? I got "By using our site, you acknowledge that you have read and understand our Cookie Policy, Privacy Policy, and our Terms of Service." on the bottom banner of SE again ._.

Tinkeringbell

@NoDistractionWizard Just dismiss it ;)

Did that this morning too, didn't think too much about it ;)

rene

@NoDistractionWizard same

Shadow Wizard

1:05 PM

@NoDistractionWizard yeah, got it too. Looks like some user info (cookie? server side storage?) got reset.

I have a feeling it's related to the slowness of SO.

@Tinkeringbell well, surely it annoys many of the millions of users who got it again. After dismissing it once, they expect it won't show again. :)

rene

@ShadowWizard we scared that user with our comments ... :(

Shadow Wizard

nah... more likely with the downvotes

No Distraction Wizard

I'm scared of green color, please don't upvote me :(

Shadow Wizard

giving bounties to @NoD

oh this reminds me, I have a bounty to award on SO... hope it will let me...

No Distraction Wizard

"I have a bounty to award"... somehow I imagine SO suddenly has periodical "1 free bounty ticket" lucky giveaway to active user...

Shadow Wizard

1:17 PM

Make that two bounties. Done. :D

100 rep given.

> 0 Active bounties

Not bad...

> 69 Offered bounties for 8,150 reputation

Most went for answers I found useful.

Shadow Wizard

1:43 PM

1

Q: How does highlights view work in Chat?

There's an option to view "highlights" in rooms on Chat. This hides some messages, but shows most of them. How are these determined? It seems to be random, other than showing all starred messages that would have loaded without highlights on.

So instead of fixing the bugs... they work on some rather minor feature. Meh.

(that nobody asked for... but that's not an issue for me.)

rene

1:56 PM

It is the highlight of my day

Magisch

@rene everything blurry in the flowerbed?

rene

yep

No Distraction Wizard

ping me!

Tinkeringbell

@NoDistractionWizard ping

Shadow Wizard

@NoDistractionWizard pong

user302202

2:08 PM

Forwarding calls from my office phone to my cell phone: a good idea or a bad idea?

Shadow Wizard

bad

user302202

Now the parents of students can reach me anywhere...

Tinkeringbell

@VoteDukakis Really, really, really bad unless you have an office cell phone ;)

user302202

(Just finished a conversation with one, while I was at a coffee shop).

Shadow Wizard

Well if you're bored in general and got nothing better to do then yes, it's a good idea to always keep you busy. :D

user302202

2:09 PM

Let's check if there is a TWP discussion of this...

Tinkeringbell

@VoteDukakis It's called a question, not a discussion ;)

Journeyman Geek

@VoteDukakis seems a perfect use for a burner phone line

user302202

Yes, that's what it's called. But what it is...

Shadow Wizard

Proper question would be "Can my employer force me to forward office calls to my private phone?", otherwise the answer is obvious "Do what you want".

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard or something no one noticed before ;p

Shadow Wizard

2:10 PM

nah.... it's hard to miss. :)

EKons

actually I think it's been there for a long time

Journeyman Geek

I'd have missed it if not for the question ;p

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek you don't scroll enough :D

Journeyman Geek

oddly enouugh I do!

I do try to catch up on backlog here and RA

Shadow Wizard

So not high enough :D

No Distraction Wizard

2:16 PM

Maybe last experiment: please star this message

Shadow Wizard

EKons

aww rip :(

Shadow Wizard

lol

You think amount of stars affect something in the new view? @NoDis

No Distraction Wizard

@ShadowWizard FWIW, I'm currently chatting with "hightlight" mode enabled, and want to see if past starred message will suddenly show (though, I doubt it)

At least I can guarantee the "highlight" mode is one of "No Distraction" feature (and you'll miss a lot of conversation...)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard though...

assuming no one's that familiar with chat's code...

that's a good way to get stuck in before poking around things

Shadow Wizard

2:23 PM

@NoDistractionWizard lol... so it's all your doing?! :D

IMO it's a useless feature, but meh... maybe some will find it useful somehow. Can't judge.

No Distraction Wizard

Huh, I just realized a weird thing...

Shadow Wizard

(I'd downvote such feature request, if we had one.)

@NoDistractionWizard you're not really a wizard?

:P

Rob

Yes

Shadow Wizard

lol that look

> I'm going to steal your shoes, and you know it!

Journeyman Geek

no no no

You steal socks, and leave warm gifts in people's shoes

Shadow Wizard

2:30 PM

ewww

No Distraction Wizard

The highlight mode is usefully strange...

Shadow Wizard

Someone tweeted about it recently, didn't decide if it was real or not lol

twitter.com/Bed_pans/status/1128012590066601984

Nice discussion followed. :P

oh good thing Twitter onebox is borked. lol

Rob

More Maru ! 2.5M Followers on Instagram.

No Distraction Wizard

catching up the hidden convo due to the "highlight" mode now...

Shadow Wizard

@Rob Doug The Pug with 3.8M followers

Rob

2:37 PM

Nowhere near as cute.

Shadow Wizard

meh

:D

user302202

2:49 PM

A user posted a nomination for someone else.

user302202

This being a pro tem election, this just might end up a winner. Who gets the diamond, then?

Journeyman Geek

the nomination seems... kinda non serious

Rob

JiffPom > 9M on Instagram

Shadow Wizard

@Rob winner

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek With enough bad mood, you can even read it as mocking

Rob

2:54 PM

😄

user302202

3:19 PM

@VoteDukakis correction: this is a "normal" election, Quant site graduated long ago.

user302202

Need more food on the starboard, I'm hungry

Catija

Even in beta elections, users can't nominate other people.

fbueckert

@JourneymanGeek One of our cats loves to stuff his face into shoes.

And drop toys into shoes.

Or things he picks up. Basically, if he gets it, it eventually ends up in shoes.

user302202

3:44 PM

Good observation. As mentioned, this is a test so we're running targeted ads as the inventory allows. When the inventory is turning or low, you will see ads for Teams and such until another can take its place. This is normal behavior for now. Thank you for bringing this up! — Juan M ♦ 2 hours ago

user302202

Yeah, no wonder "relevant to the community" got dropped from the ad description.

user302202

Moar ads for online Masters degrees in random subjects, plz.

Shog9

@ShadowWizard I'm pretty shocked so many people never noticed that button before

user302202

It requires scrolling. Scrolling UP! Who does that?

Mithrandir

I do... but I've never clicked the button.

Shog9

3:56 PM

OMG... Shadow even added it to the "recent feature" list...

this made my day

user302202

Looks like it picks up messages in proximity to: my messages, messages to me, and starred messages.

Shog9

yeah, @NoDistractionWizard nails the mechanics down pretty accurately

AFAIK the intent is to give you a quick way to scan a busy room for relevant messages when you return after an absence

In practice, I usually just rely on the transcript

Jon Ericson

@Mithrandir It's nostalgic to hear feedback that the top bar is the wrong black. But when I look at that site . . . I see what you mean. Looks sorta dusty, doesn't it?

No Distraction Wizard

Dusty black. I like the sound of it.

Like a color theme of a smartphone.

rene

That is why you hire designers. Those are trained professionals to pick colors that needs time to adjust to.

In the end you have to admit they were right.

Megan Risdal

4:14 PM

@Mithrandir Thanks -- good catch! Updated.

Mithrandir

4:29 PM

@JonEricson Yep.

@MeganRisdal :)

@Mithrandir Of course, I also use a userscript to turn that gray background black, so.

So this is my view of the site:

As opposed to normal view:

EKons

hmm... might not actually be too harmful to change this everywhere...

rene

> Basically, we need to check with legal and get this updated.

Mithrandir

@EKons I have a userscript changing it to be pure black everywhere...

EKons

I mean changing it network-wide so there's no need to deal with that special case called "scifi.SE"

Jon Ericson

@EKons What about my mental health? ;-)

EKons

4:39 PM

tbf this is what Mith might suffer from without his userscript... :P

Mithrandir

Of course, you should never trust what I set in my userscripts to actually be good design... otherwise MSE would look like this:

Jon Ericson

@EKons Well, write a script to deflect all the arguments about design changes and I'm down.

EKons

design changes bring complaints because they take time to get used to... ;)

Jon Ericson

And sometimes they are really a bad idea. The trick is to tell the difference.

EKons

in an unrelated note... I noticed!!!

well... if the complaints keep coming for a few months with no overall benefits, it might be time to revert :P

(note: Mith has approximately as many userscripts as I do for SE, but he has quite a few which modify the design...)

Mithrandir

4:47 PM

There are currently 41 userscripts active on this page.

EKons

that's what I'm talking about... :P

Jon Ericson

Userscripts are like Pringles in that way.

EKons

lol

I only have 7 active here :P

o_o vintage

Margarine

I used to be userscript nut too

But now I only have FIRE enabled, and it's not even working

user302202

The best AFD joke was Unicoin, because we could choose the color of the topbar.

user302202

4:56 PM

What were the options, again?

user302202

Including Black Black Bar

user302202

Further confirming that year 2014 was Peak Stack Exchange.

Margarine

Now I can't un-notice that the top bar isn't black

user302202

5:37 PM

0

Q: please help me to rephrase that my question is accepted by male only moderators

I have a question about my Travel Stack Exchange post: Where is female public urination common in Europe? Please help me formulate the questions differently. Please do not change the content, it's just words. Thank you for help

discussion

user302202

A legit Travel question as is, imo.

user302202

Knowing the public attitude to things helps in deciding what to do when traveling there.

Tinkeringbell

@VoteDukakis Reads like a poll. Raise your hand if you're female and peed outside!

user302202

8

Q: How common are petrol stations in SE Europe/Balkans?

I'm planning a motorcycle trip around the Balkans/southeastern Europe (incl. Romania and Bulgaria), this year. How common are petrol stations in this part of the world? And would they always be working/have petrol/be open? Here (in Ireland), petrol stations would never run out of petrol, and pre...

europe driving southeast-europe balkans

user302202

About the same sort of question.

John Dvorak

5:41 PM

I don't think the meta question is phrased in ... the best way possible

Tinkeringbell

@VoteDukakis 'same sort' snort. There might be a tiny argument for asking if it's legal to pee outside if you really can't stand toilets, but that's about it.

@JohnDvorak Nor is the main site question :P And I don't even do much on Travel.

user302202

It's important to know what your fueling and peeing options are.

Tinkeringbell

Besides, off-topic is right, as this is data collection for a thesis apparently and not about Travel ;)

John Dvorak

I didn't explore the main question in any sort of detail, so don't take my lack of feedback as a condonement

Feeds

If she'd lived in Flagstaff (elevation 6,903 feet), Cruella de Vil would only have needed 89 dalmatians for her coat.

Rob

5:47 PM

Stack Exchange with 100 UserScripts active:

The Simpsons The Mysterious Voyage of Homer Part 03

►

fbueckert

Welp, that line of comments isn't going anywhere good. Time to nope out and ignore the false equivalence and strawmanning going on.

user302202

@Feeds And SE user support tickets take 20% less time to process.

user302202

6:02 PM

The public/private juxtraposition here ...

user302202

These ads could equally well be on Math, English, or Lifehacks.

user302202

Why not simply put SO Teams ads on graduated sites network-wide.

Travis J

I think you missed a spot with your cropping tool

Tinkeringbell

@fbueckert You did what you could. I'll clean up a few things there.

You can flag stuff, you know ;)

user302202

6:13 PM

> We believe there are at least two drawbacks of adopting the question asker based “Best Answer.” First, users are more reluctant to contribute answers once the “Best Answer” is selected due to the incentive mechanism designed by Stack Exchange. Second, as we have shown in this paper, the “Best Answer” is really the best answer perceived by the question asker.

user302202

> Considering the trade-offs discussed above, we recommend that platforms display the number of votes in a more prominent position compared with the answer selected by the question asker; we also recommend changing the name “Best Answer” to “Asker Accepted Answer” or other more neutral and accurate names to reduce the bias introduced by the name “Best Answer.”

user302202

I don't think SE says "Best Answer" anywhere... they picked it up elsewhere.

user302202

The "Politeness Bias" paper is here btw

Margarine

@fbueckert Eh? Where? The discussion on the getting out of Q-ban question seems civil

Tinkeringbell

@VoteDukakis So... it's already called an Accepted Answer and the votes are BIG and above the mark... :/

@VoteDukakis Don't have permission to download the PDF :(

Margarine

6:16 PM

Or maybe @Tink used the mop soon enough?

Tinkeringbell

@Margarine Yeah, I mopped up some spills

nothing bad, but it's dry now :)

Margarine

I mean the AK guy didn't seem accusatory

Anyway, dinner

Tinkeringbell

@Margarine Enjoy :) What are you having?

Margarine

Tuna fish, Lavash bread, Medium fat yogurt

I'm a weirdo when it comes to food.

I'm probably also a weirdo when it comes to anything else.

Mithrandir

Can confirm.

Tinkeringbell

6:20 PM

Weird food sometimes is the best. I had a sandwich with apple slices for lunch today, and it was pretty tasty

Margarine

@Tinkeringbell You're doing it right. Ignore the gandalf in the room.

fbueckert

7:16 PM

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, I can. My problem is that my sensitivity to those types of comments is pinned at, "This is outright rude", rather than, "This isn't really a good discussion and it should go away".

@Tinkeringbell At least it's not the KFC double down.

That's a heart attack just waiting to happen.

Tinkeringbell

@fbueckert It's hard, I know. But feel free to raise custom mod flags whenever there's too much discussion that isn't directly related to the question at hand and is getting ruder with every comment :) And... sometimes just not getting into a discussion with a third party is a great tactic too :)

@fbueckert I want one. I had too much healthy food today.

fbueckert

I had cheap ramen for lunch yesterday. Mr. Noodle, so super cheap.

My stomach decided to tell me about how bad it was all day afterwards.

Tinkeringbell

Poor stomach :(

fbueckert

Yep. Lesson: no more Mr. Noodle.

Margarine

@fbueckert Mine does that too sometimes

Tinkeringbell

7:20 PM

Or perhaps just an entire week of Mr. Noodle, to see if your stomach can acclimate ;)

Margarine

In my defense, prednisolone is basically stomach torture.

fbueckert

@Tinkeringbell After what happened yesterday, I'd rather not. It involved somewhat frequent bathroom breaks.

I'm not a college student anymore, forced to subsist on the cheapest food I can find, and a young stomach willing to garburate it.

MikeTheLiar

Mr. Noodle?

Tinkeringbell

@MikeTheLiar Well, if there were bathroom breaks involved, I sure do hope so!

MikeTheLiar

Semi-random question - is there a history of close vote reasons anywhere? I know they've evolved quite a bit over the years but I'm wondering if the only ones are still around anywhere.

Travis J

7:27 PM

Not in one place, but there is, yeah.

fbueckert

Mr. Noodle

Tinkeringbell

@MikeTheLiar I think... lemme dig.

MikeTheLiar

Might be able to pull that from the data explorer somewhere but I'm not familiar enough with the schema off the top of my head

Tinkeringbell

@MikeTheLiar meta.stackexchange.com/q/327903/369802 Does that help get a start?

MikeTheLiar

@TravisJ 👋 long time no see

Tinkeringbell

7:28 PM

But if I catch you doing it, Imma use my powers.

Travis J

@MikeTheLiar This is a good entrance to the rabbit hole: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/184154/…

MikeTheLiar

@Tinkeringbell I have enough close vote reasons at my disposal as it is. Although this does indicate that this information is somewhere in the data explorer

Tinkeringbell

@MikeTheLiar Just don't use one of those to have 'fun'. I hate it when people do that ;)

But yeah, I guess you could use that and find out where they had their info from, or assume they made the entire list.

MikeTheLiar

hey look what I found data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1047858/…

Tinkeringbell

noise of pointless? ...

I guess it's good that I wasn't around way back when.

forest

7:41 PM

Why did they remove that one anyway?

A lot of questions are noise or pointless and should be closed.

fbueckert

But telling the user that is...rather mean.

And it doesn't do much to really tell them how to improve it.

MikeTheLiar

It is a post
By a new user, full of noise of pointless
signifying closure.

ArtOfCode

If that's a haiku... ya got too many syllables

forest

The extra syllables are just noise.

MikeTheLiar

> it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

ArtOfCode

7:45 PM

Ah, gotcha

forest

Has the grace edit period been removed?

2

A: How do ISPs send their own pages when a user is trying to access a blocked site?

ISPs cannot inject their own pages into HTTPS traffic. They can block the traffic and cause the page to fail to load, or they can attempt to hijack a HTTP->HTTPS redirect before the encrypted connection is made, but they cannot modify the contents of the page itself once the connection is establi...

All of my edits were within 5 minutes, but it shows as 3 separate edits.

The revisions... security.stackexchange.com/posts/210628/revisions

Is this a bug?

Catija

no. Comments reset the grace period.

forest

oh

Travis J

Haiku Error 1:
Unrecognized format use.
Read the manual.

MikeTheLiar

Travis J

7:50 PM

lol

Is that the Subaru Enterprise?

forest

pffft

MikeTheLiar

@TravisJ no, the Subaru Enterprise is only suitable for corporations with a minimum of 2,000 employees and requires a 10 year support contract.

Travis J

Seats remind me of Star Trek

forest

I wonder if car dashboards explode in the Star Trek universe when a car crashes.

MikeTheLiar

I want to say Futurama had a gag like that but I might have dreamed it

forest

7:54 PM

Sounds like something from Futurama.

Mgetz

8:21 PM

@MikeTheLiar You've clearly never been to a summer camp where the use the dodge vans to cart the kids around

Rob

9:08 PM

forest

I'm sure you could fit in a few more.

Rob

You are correct they need a smaller space:

user302202

9:23 PM

'tis the season (summer) when students, being away from campus, send various forms in electronic form.

user302202

Normally, I expect "electronic form" to be a cellphone picture of a paper on a wooden table.

user302202

But apparently that is old style. The modern version replaces wooden table by a colorful mattress.

user302202

The paper itself looks like it was forgotten between the sheets a few nights ago.

user302202

Adobe Acrobat does have a neat way of "enhancing" camera images, so that instead of appearing to be slightly bent, the paper looks like half of it was submerged in coffee.

Shadow Wizard

10:57 PM

@Shog9 well, so it was worth it all! :D

So.... when was it really added?

@Margarine no soup?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

11:18 PM

@forest If you last remember from prior to March 2015, it's changed since then. (I ran into the same issue back when I rejoined in December '17, with my last major contribution in December '14)

Journeyman Geek

@Margarine how do you tuna fish?

forest

I last remember like... yesterday. But my confusion was cleared up anyways.

Turns out comments reset the grace period, which I didn't know.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard maybe its always been there

its just odd NO ONE EVER noticed it before someone pointed it out

forest

meta.stackexchange.com/q/327903/384528 lol I wonder how many more client-side checks SE does. :P

inb4 JSON "is_employee" value

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