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Journeyman Geek

12:01 AM

Heh

user302202

2:40 AM

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Q: Statistics un off-topic questions

The off-topic questions (as first reported here Recent proliferation of "How to code?" questions & SuperUser questions) keep pouring in. In order to: find out if our efforts/changes are making any difference; make a case to/against the probable culprit (The Ask Question wizard on SO) (?); we...

user302202

Any takers? I am not going to sort by OT, but the total volume is impressive.

user302202

I notice @Catija began visiting Close queue on Hardware Recommendations... meanwhile, Software Recommendations could use help too, with 127 Close review items as of now.

Aibobot

eh, I have the rep

I could try to take a look over the weekend

internet at work is terribad until I can get my ISP swapped

user302202

Ask Question Wizard taketh away [off topic questions] and it giveth them [to another site].

Aibobot

HR and SR also have the problem of having very unusual scopes

and I need to post an answer on HR anyway!

Get Answer Wizard

2:43 AM

I need rep to close vote 😪

Aibobot

ya.. I kinda have some rep on both

user302202

HR has an additional problem of being kind of ghostly.

user302202

With 38 close reviews, Catija is already in top 13 reviewers all time.

user302202

In 2018, moderators closed 482 questions on HR. Regular users closed... 1.(source)

user302202

So, reviewing CVs without a diamond makes about as much impact as clapping with one hand.

Shog9

2:59 AM

Yeah... I think we should've remembered that Stack Overflow didn't have close voting until it was 6 months old and getting 400-some questions/day. That sort of laborious process doesn't work all that well on a site without a cloud of constantly active users.

Aibobot

@AskQuestionWizard heh, also I've not been on HR and SR as much as I was

(I did mod SR at one point)

The two sites have somewhat limited traffic so a few folks going through thr queues can make an impact

Get Answer Wizard

I guess what AaQ is actually doing is... migrating crap... like, it's better to not let them know about the existence of smaller sites unless their question is on-par...

Aibobot

@GetAnswerWizard well, maybe, but its also something that needs tuning

an essential thing we need to end up working out is how to get folks used to SE culture - and that's probably something AAQw could help with

that said... as always, stuff gets tested on the bigger sites for some reason so... in a sense the problem is magnified until they get stuff dialed in

Its probably doubly bad on SR and HR because they're unique sites that don't fit a lot of our usual Q&A rules

Get Answer Wizard

3:21 AM

I hate to be so negative, but the linking to the main index of help center instead of the specific meta post for asking guidance is probably already making the asker ignoring it and instead asking their sub-standard question. It's like seeing this comment on most of ID questions on SciFi.SE...

(or most of ID questions that are still allowed on some SE sites, like... Music Fans...)

Aibobot

@GetAnswerWizard maybe throw them anoter AAQW on that site...

actually that's the approach my soon to be former phone company takes....

Get Answer Wizard

@Aibobot I hope so...

Aibobot

Its worth considering though - a big part of the core issues we have is, well growth, and folks not getting the format

and well, the technical solutions to that are never going to be easy

Even with an immaculate, idiotproof system...

there'll be that guy who posts on the wrong site cause its gets more exposure. Or... is a simple man. He sees a textbox, he posts.

Get Answer Wizard

3:40 AM

Is Your Question Off-Topic Wizard

Aibobot

I'd almost say they'd work it out eventually

but I know a few experienced, high rep users I don't want to name and shame who sometimes feel like they haven't

Catija

4:22 AM

@AskQuestionWizard I'm helping the mods at their request since, as you note below, they don't have a lot of reviewers.

@GetAnswerWizard I think we're looking at changing the target to the /help/on-topic page which should be a little more user friendly than linking to meta (you don't have to find the main site after being directed to meta) and the mods can customize the site to be as clear as the meta FAQ. :)

Journeyman Geek

There's remarkably little traffic at work today ^^

Probably cause everyone went across the border yesterday

Catija

So, it's Easter weekend in the ... primarily Christian countries... which means tomorrow and Monday may be quieter.

Journeyman Geek

ya... everyone went overseas cause its a long weekend on thursdat ;p

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