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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:14 AM
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user493924
12:36 AM
ok, I already posted, and it was resolved. thanks anyway
 
Get Answer Wizard
Get Answer Wizard
3:13 AM
I prefer reading a transcript than listening to a podcast :(
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
> we need your help to make Stack Overflow an attractive community for the next 10 million developers. You’ll have a broad mandate from new user onboarding, acquisition, and core Q&A functionality to user privileges, reputation, moderator tools and much more. stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/1634759/product-manager-qa
 
Get Answer Wizard
Get Answer Wizard
> user privileges, reputation
Looks like we'll finally get our 30k-rep privilege...
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
truncate table Users could make it attractive for the next 10M.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
4:06 AM
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Rob
Rob
4:47 AM
@GetAnswerWizard Did you link to the correct Q&A, if anything such a change is not being considered, there's no status-completed tag, nor is there another Q&A saying "it's coming".
 
Feeds
Feeds
Unicorn Meta Zoo: 1: Why another podcast?
posted on April 10, 2019

Welcome to the Unicorn Meta Zoo, a brand new podcast by members of the Stack Exchange community team. If you want to avoid spoilers, jump straight to the audio. Participants We’re talking about why we’re doing a podcast. (I believe this is the traditional podcast pilot topic.) It’s not intended to replace Stack Overflow podcast, which is on hiatus. For one thing, our audience is much s…

 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:40 AM
he, I'm currently trying to check through my old storage - I think I came across the (slightly internet famous) Drive of Impending Doom - its a drive I have that runs for a few months, dies then comes back to life with data corruption.... repeatedly....
Apparently I had a data dump at some point. Or I accidentally found the drive stack exchange is stored on (shhhhh)
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
@JourneymanGeek Have you heard of a Drobo before?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
yup
they're pretty well reguarded for personal use NASes
They do use an unusual filesystem to enable some of the shinier stuff if I recall correctly
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
5:58 AM
(autoflagging is down)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
So
Flag it manually
;p
We will apply suitable excessive quantities of cleansing nuclear fire to the account.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
5-minute delay for Smokey posts, plus I had already flagged
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
eh
At some point I need to check what's the smokey rss feed for meta. I have one for SU which is handy
AHHH DRIVE BY PARROTING!
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Mithrandir not here, here I'm bound to be @Sha. But on Twitter I'm not bound to any commitments, so can become Evil any moment..... :P
 
 
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Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
7:47 AM
On the bright side, my new ear cushions for my Bose headphones finally turned up, and they make my headphones feel like new...
I did purchase some earbuds as a stopgap solution (the old ones completely broke two days after I had ordered the new ones, and I wasn't willing to wait another three days for them to eventually turn up), and to solve the problem that caused the old ones to break in the first place (hint hint)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JourneymanGeek Oops :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
8:25 AM
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Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:49 AM
@forest most likely sock of a bad user. And anyone can join chat, as @M.A.R said. Their avatar should be "blank" though, in chat.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
@forest Users with "explicit write access" (possibly read?) in any room on the same server have their avatar shown.
@ShadowWizard ^
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@SonictheWizardWerehog doubt that a network wide suspended user will get explicit write access.
 
Get Answer Wizard
Get Answer Wizard
Or hidden accounts, or unsuspended manually on some sites, or...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
But yeah, @Pseudohuman is example for such a user.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
@ShadowWizard Probably historical. This room has a ton of users who have explicit write access, who haven't posted here in a while. (It's also used for granting access to gallery rooms.)
@GetAnswerWizard Not on Chat.SO or Chat.MSE, and only then if their parent site happened to be the one they were unsuspended on, etc...
Charcoal HQ routinely updates their explicit write access list with frequent contributors, in case a certain specific troll decides to disrupt the room necessitating for it to be put in gallery mode
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
9:05 AM
hmm
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal/a/284/60 (only visible to Charcoal team members)
 
Get Answer Wizard
Get Answer Wizard
That's Charcoal HQ, not the general case.
 
 
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Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
10:28 AM
lost in the smoke
Maybe better fix the API just so that Tavern won't be so smoked.... :P
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
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@ShadowWizard Better? :P
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@ShadowWizard That M.A.R. guy is so always right it's getting annoying
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Should we temporarily increase the delay for reporting posts here to 10 minutes? (It's currently set at 5 minutes)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
If autoflagging is off, perhaps better not? That would leave stuff up even longer.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
@Tinkeringbell Those interested can pop into CHQ
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
10:34 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog I feel adequately classified
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Our Guest was once there, but it was deleted
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@SonictheWizardWerehog Haha I remember that
I woke up to some adrenaline rush
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
The autoflagging fiasco reminds me of a time when a dial-up Internet customer had to pay hundreds of dollars in fees due to a misconfigured modem (it was dialing a long distance number)
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Tinkeringbell a lot! :D
I can finally see... the Light!
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowWizard Time to cross over then :P
Come join the light side, for once in your life.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
10:39 AM
Spammers should really stop smoking. It reduces their life on the site
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
It has cookies that aren't a lie :P
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
I thought the cake was a lie...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Tinkeringbell I'll talk with god the boss about my options... :D
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@ShadowWizard No it's the metamphitamine in the smoke getting to your head
There's no light here
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard except when you're wrong then it's so much fun :D
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard meta who?
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
10:41 AM
I'm never wrong. Just sometimes deliberately obtuse to demonstrate an example
@ShadowWizard meta.mphitamine.SE
2
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
> This site can’t be reached meta.mphitamine.se’s server IP address could not be found.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy, firewall, and DNS configuration
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED
:(
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Well, you're not part of the club
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
:(
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Which I can't confirm or deny the existence of
:%
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
(¤﹏¤)
OMG April Fools became reality: the headline in today's news was "Back to the 90's"!! lol
whoa
bots love to blame other bots....
in Shadow's Den, 2 hours ago, by FOX 9000
@ShadowWizard this is @Pseudohuman's fault!
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
10:58 AM
5% fewer closed (terrible unanswerable trash) questions is... not great, I would've expected a much higher percentage. Either the metrics aren't getting everything, or the testing group wasn't representative, or something... but I was hoping for double digits at least. If the 5% number is correct, we still have a problem. — Ian Kemp Mar 25 at 12:20
Isn't that hundreds a day, SO scale?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
11:10 AM
LOL
> Hi My Lovely Sock,


> The 2019 Developer Survey results are in!
Forgot about that sock... and it got the results first..... :D
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
11:35 AM
@Fizz Of course it's a reasonable history question. Surely this stack is not created to argue simple historical facts. — pipe 1 hour ago
Um
82
Q: Was the wheel invented before the wall?

AJFaradaySo, this extraordinary claim has been getting a lot of publicity lately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQKrfGCd7I8 They say a wall is medieval, well so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked at every single car out there, even the really expensive ones the secret service us...

history technology
How nice of them to include [half-assed] image attribution
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
11:51 AM
No need to shout at the poor bot, it has enough troubles already being API blocked and stuff!
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Board games probably don't include too much physical activity
@Tinkeringbell K!
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Depends... some of them have been transformed in to 'living' variants, and can be quite active :)
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@Tinkeringbell Oh, "I'll slay this avocado with my plastic sword" stuff? What did they call those . . . harping or larping or something
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Nah... wait.
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
To be fair, everyone needs some kid time
Waits
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
11:54 AM
living ludo :P
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Can I open my eyes
Oh those
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Yes! Some are even worse, where actual people are the pawns.
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@Tinkeringbell Yeah that's the variant I've seen
If there isn't some hyperexcited presenter they tend to look and feel PRETTY boring
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I always preferred living table football :D
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Oh nothing beats that
Except maybe ping pong
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
11:57 AM
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Meh. The ping pong one doesn't come with a jumping thing...
Like that...
What are they called in English?
bouncy castles?
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Mini-football jacuzzi
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Hahaha no, it's not waterproof :P
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Well we don't have those here
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Though fun can be added on hot days using water sprays, I guess...
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Time to migrate and drop by here some time ;)
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Every piece of the set here is so hard it could be a murder weapon
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
12:02 PM
ouch... I guess I prefer the bouncy castle version!
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@Tinkeringbell My vision of the future me is a successful academic arsehole who's always right and travels a lot
. . . to partake in boring conferences
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard every boring conference has at least 1 person that's crazy enough to also be fun to hang with ;)
That doesn't take the whole conference thing all too serious ;)
And does interesting research :)
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
And whose initials begins with an M and ends in an R?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard I must admit I'm really bad with names :P
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
12:17 PM
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Parrots only shout back
 
 
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Get Answer Wizard
Get Answer Wizard
2:49 PM
I just visited Meta Mphitamine.SE and looks like the site is on smoke...
like, every post is reported by Meta SmokeDetector...
 
Olivia
Olivia
3:06 PM
Ouch
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
3:40 PM
> A deep understanding of Stack Overflow and other Stack Exchange network sites stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/1634759/product-manager-qa
With other requirements factored in, that will not be a very long shortlist.
Fun facts of the day:
The Peer Pressure badge has been awarded 3947 times on Meta.SE
The Peer Pressure badge has been awarded 3947 times on Meta.SO
Reference: MetaSE, MetaSO
On MetaSE most of the recipients have 1 rep. On MetaSO they have quite a bit more.
 
Rob
Rob
4:17 PM
Gee, that was fun.
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
4:57 PM
 
Get Answer Wizard
Get Answer Wizard
🥖🦆...🤷‍♂️
 
 
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canon
canon
6:27 PM
I don't understand. Are we supposed to be hyperfocused on gender now?
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
3
Q: Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara

Juan MWe mentioned last year that we were looking to rev up on additional resources for the Stack Exchange network and this announcement is meant to support that claim. Due to the increased growth of our network sites, we found ourselves needing additional humans to help coordinate our plans for impro...

discussion featured announcements community-managers
 
canon
canon
timely...
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
No pre-existing posts? SE wants a fresh point of view from an outsider, apparently.
@canon Now, today, tomorrow, and always
 
canon
canon
@AskQuestionWizard Whatever happened to the internet as a bastion of anonymity? Asexual space fungi welcome.
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
Two network featured posts at the same time, does this really work?
Web Applications needs one of those sidebar "disclaimer" bonuses like Law, etc. "Posting your mug shot as an answer will not unlock your [Google/FB/whatever] account".
Are Cesar M and Juan M related? Same last name, and an unusual one.
> Lots of people staring into the Eye of Sauron today. Keep your giant eagle on standby. -- Shog9 at 10:49 AM - 10 Apr 2019
I was thinking more along the lines of goatse, but maybe it's just me
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
6:35 PM
@AskQuestionWizard To be fair, the whole thing was so hyped I'm kinda disappointed.
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@Tinkeringbell Twitter is blocked, what was overhyped?
. . . too bad. The recent blatantly OT meta.SE post was probably POB but it was well-reasoned and articulate
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard The whole 'first picture of a black hole ever' story
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
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Q: Why isn't the circumferential light around the M87 black hole's event horizon symmetric?

0x90After the revelation of the first black hole images, it seems there is a bias towards its south side. Is it because of measuring it from earth or is it something more fundamental in the understanding of the gravitational field?

general-relativity black-holes astronomy accretion-disk
Is this on topic in Physics, Astronomy, and Spaaaaace at the same time?
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
EVERYTHING in astrophysics is overhyped
BBL dinner
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
@ArtOfCode The election site does not recognize that Stack Overflow en español election is over.
Looking for Talkative users with 1 rep is another way to detect new employees.
 
Feeds
Feeds
6:52 PM
 
Catija
Catija
How appropriately relevant.
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
> Due to the increased growth of our network sites
What growth
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
status-bydesign
adding/removing elections is manual so I can keep the results there for a while
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
Yes, but other finished elections show as finished (Tridion, Data Science)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
7:19 PM
status-will-look-later
 
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Welcome to the team. Hopefully you won't be stabbed to death by us meta users :P (you get the joke?) — MEE the setup wizard 12 mins ago
Aww, that's cute compared to what metas can do
 
Feeds
Feeds
7:57 PM
Unicorn Meta Zoo: 1: Why another podcast?
posted on April 10, 2019

Welcome to the Unicorn Meta Zoo, a brand new podcast by members of the Stack Exchange community team. If you want to avoid spoilers, jump straight to the audio. Participants We’re talking about why we’re doing a podcast. (I believe this is the traditional podcast pilot topic.) It’s not intended to replace Stack Overflow podcast, which is on hiatus. For one thing, our audience is much s…

 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
8:39 PM
@Feeds How many times must the Feeds post a blog before you call it a bug?
Yeah, about that "statistically unlikely" line...
> This is statistically unlikely with a sample of over 70,000 developers who answered this question, to put it mildly. insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/…
The 70,000 developers who answered did not compare themselves to the other 69,999 developers who answered. They compared themselves to co-workers etc.
A sample of Dilberts comparing themselves to Wallys who can't be bothered with any survey.
Repeatedly mentioning sample size does not do anything to hide the painfully obvious sampling bias.
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
9:34 PM
Okay, this was all a duplicate of a meta.SO post that I didn't see earlier.
Pointless anyway, as SO spinning their survey as a representation of industry is right there with taxes and death.
 
Kevin B
Kevin B
🎨
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
10:02 PM
Let's go upvote Cesar's answer so he gets association bonus.
 
Catija
Catija
10:25 PM
@AskQuestionWizard Let's not, please.
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
But it's fun... Juan M got his association bonus when I dropped a bounty on his answer on Community Building. Which is why I can't flag spam on that site anymore.
The pattern of likes on StackExchange tweets indicates its audience is the same "super-engaged" group as for the podcast.
 
Kevin B
Kevin B
10:42 PM
or.. it's just twitter
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
10:56 PM
"Here is how association bonus works" => 0 likes. "Here is a meta-podcast of 3 CMs talking about insider meta-matters" => 15 likes.
 
Catija
Catija
The balpha post is still the most popular, I think.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
11:24 PM
@AskQuestionWizard What's the point? He already has network-wide moderator rights, and association bonus rights don't confer enough rep for the 1.5 privileges that aren't awarded with the diamond
 
Catija
Catija
Election voting and answering protected questions?
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Mod privileges don't confer the right to answer protected questions?
I was referring to election voting and skipping past the downvote prompt (which is 0.5 of a privilege)
 
Catija
Catija
11:43 PM
@SonictheWizardWerehog nope.
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Good to know. Will edit FAQ
 
Catija
Catija
I mean it's easy to get around by unprotecting and reprotecting.
 
Ask Question Wizard
Ask Question Wizard
@SonictheWizardWerehog So we don't have to suffer the indignity of paying attention to a 1-rep user.
 
Catija
Catija
Because 101 rep users are that much of an improvement? 😝
 
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
@AskQuestionWizard Employees can go into DB and remove the new contributor mark
 
Catija
Catija
11:56 PM
But we'd never do that...
Well ... I'd never ask for it. I don't think the CMs have ever used it.
Also, having 101 rep doesn't prevent that so I'm not sure how that relates.
 

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