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3:04 PM
 
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@Shog9 Better to add new groups on top so they don't shift the older ones ^
 
Nice! 👍
 
@MySharona long time no see 😲
having 11k helpful flags without posts on main site is... surprising, eh
 
Ideal stalker! ;)
 
3:41 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body (64): can I make a recipe with hidden vegetables? by Autumn Palmer on cooking.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Title starts and ends with a forward slash (100): //----Unexpected Alerts-----// by Bpozo on sqa.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector ignore
 
@ShadowWizard Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
 
Hi. I have noticed some user avatars that are imported via google are broken due to google changing the image url. (see e.g. cs.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1581/…) While I doubt SE can do something about this directly, it might be a good idea to put some guidance for users on how to fix this somewhere. Is this already discussed somewhere? Or should I put a new question up?
 
@Discretelizard I'd recommend putting a new question up
 
@JourneymanGeek Ok, then I'll do that.
 
3:51 PM
@JourneymanGeek I hate to say this... but I have yet to see applications that aren't benchmarks actually use that much ram... maybe workstation level stuff.
 
@Mgetz I used to work vfx
also, I dude can dream ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek workstation level stuff
that's where you really want a Xeon and ECC ram, or a threadripper
and probably a few quadros
 
I'm trying to work out if I can replace my current desktop with something more up to date and something a lot more modest than that ;p
 
I remember going onto some of the vendor websites to see just how insane a professional grade system you could put together and seeing systems with quad sockets and 3TB of ram
they required PSUs that required two 20A circuits
and yes that's multiple power supplies
 
4:20 PM
@TimStone: would you be open to changing the comment link helper to use https://, always?
 
meh. who needs security ....
 
@MartijnPieters Oh, yeah. I forgot I hadn't done that
 
sd f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened url in answer (56): Storms form above my head by Viktor Bober on puzzling.SE
 
4:34 PM
sd f
 
@TimStone: I've made it a GH issue so it doesn't fall of the radar. :-)
 
5:11 PM
 
Poof @rene
 
thanks!
 
Rob
5:48 PM
@ShadowWizard - I am guessing that once the program has been written it's all about support and bug finding/fixing, and someone else got the fixing part - no soup for you.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer (86): Virtual Machine is 'inaccessible' ✏️ by a deleted user on superuser.com
 
Well, it seems that we can blame Google(+):
Well that's fun, Google+ deprecation seems to be removing the endpoints for all the profile image URLs they sent us the past half decade, resulting in a ton of 404s for users.
 
6:07 PM
"Currently, we allow 20 reviews per user per queue per day, but we double this to 40 if the queue size is over 1000." According to: How come my vote cap for “First Posts” is lower than others?
"40 reviews per queue per day if the queue size is 150 or more" according to The Complete Rate-Limiting Guide.
Which one is correct?
 
@Martin I'd say the rate limiting guide, as it's more recent? meta.stackexchange.com/revisions/164900/100 @SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog what's your source on that edit, do you still remember?
 
On Mathematics I see over 300 items in the review queue. Yet the review stops at 20 AFAICT.
Should this be reported as a bug? Or are there some other conditions that I missed?
All top reviewers today have 20 reviews in that queue: math.stackexchange.com/review/close/stats
 
I'm not sure. Perhaps wait a moment, the person that made the edit is in here quite often. If they remember where they saw the information that it should be 40 reviews if the queue is over 150, that might help
If they don't.... I think the rate-limiting guide may be false and it's not a bug.
 
@Martin except the close vote queue
 
So the thing about 150 is true with this exception?
 
6:14 PM
maybe not, that is on SO only
 
I still want to know where Sonic got the 150 number, as now there's a link in the rate limiting guide pointing to an answer saying it's 1000
 
it is 1000 on SO for the CVQ
 
That's not what the guide says now!
 
it is a per site setting so it could be borked somehow
 
Rob
@JourneymanGeek There's this post "ASUS UEFI updates enable 128GB DDR4 support on Z390 motherboards" that addresses "Nick's Tweet" on the consumer level. I would advise against that motherboard because of too many bad reviews but the point is: new stuff is coming RSN so if you don't want to buy a new MB in a few
years you'll want to wait 6 months.
 
6:22 PM
You can get around the character limit

By using a new line.
 
Rob
I did hit a CR, I'm on mobile.
 
Ah, yeah, that works horrible on mobile
 
Rob
It says message too long, so I have to backspace until that disappears, hit the ↩️ key and finish the sentence.
 
Yeah, makes nice cliffhangers :P
I usually cut and paste, as I'm too lazy to retype
 
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A: Why I was able to review 40 suggested edits today?

GlorfindelAccording to this answer, as of August 4th: We've updated the settings a bit: When the queue size is greater than 150, you will have 40 reviews a day When the queue size is less than 150, you will have 20 reviews a day This is only applicable to Stack Overflow, though, not the ...

 
6:27 PM
@Martin ^^ See above, the 150 is only for SO
 
Rob
I try to keep an eye out for the tiny message that appears on the opposite side of the screen while you're looking at what you are typing with a magnifying glass. It's like looking through a gun sight and trying to maintain a 180° field of view at the same time; all while looking at everything with one eye, thus processing everything with half your brain. 🤪
 
You get a message? Never seen it....
I just realize 'oh, pressing send doesn't work, must be too long'
 
Rob
My point exactly.
But I guess you are on a desktop.
 
At least you know it apparently exists, that mythical message ;)
Most of the time, yeah. I'm on a desktop or laptop
Used to spend a lot of time in public transport, on mobile
 
@Tinkeringbell Updated the FAQ. (Look at the prior revision, however...it was a complete mess.)
 
6:33 PM
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog A mess you seem to have introduced, by editing the 1000 down to 150. But this looks much better.
 
uhm.
why does it have two lines?
if both thresholds are 1000, isn't it just one threshold
ah, less than
seems like that could be noted better
 
@KevinB Signs instead of words? Or just back to the original, where it was just added to the 40 a day line?
 
why would SO's threshold be so much lower,
 
Rob
@Tinkeringbell . . . . . .
 
Also... Stack Overflow and SO. Those should be the same
 
Rob
6:36 PM
 
@Rob You're using desktop site....
I don't. :P
Not when on mobile, at least
 
Rob
Desktop version, mobile phone 2960x1440 screen.
Thus the magnifying glass. The mobile site is probably OK for some, and if you don't have a magnifying glass, but you lose too much information and some of the menus are missing. Reporting on Meta might get it put in the job jar but it doesn't get it fixed.
 
I'm more just curious why we need different thresholds at all for that. like, if there's 1000 review tasks available, then you'd give all active reviewers twice as many reviews they can perform... I can't help but think that should be going in the opposite direction
 
Thanks for the responses - and also for editing the rate limiting guide.
 
as-in, on non-so sites it doubles at 150, because there's generally less reviewers on other sites
 
6:41 PM
@Tinkeringbell Fixed that.
@Tinkeringbell How about "20 reviews per day, increases to 40 if..."
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog Nah, leave it like this for now.
Unless others find a way of formulating it that they prefer
 
Why aren't there any statistics shown in the State of the Stack where it claims minority parties have "too often people feel unwelcome, unheard, and unable to help or to find help"?
 
@SterlingArcher Cause feelings and hard statistics are two different things
 
How so? Would the result still be the same if it was shown "4% of women etc feel unwelcome" vs "91% of women etc feel unwelcome"?
 
it's easily to make claims when it's impossible to produce data to refute them
 
6:51 PM
@SterlingArcher If women feel unwelcome... how likely are they going to bother with filling out an enquiry/survey that can provide this hard data?
Let's take another approach. Why do you feel this needs statistics?
 
Because a claim was made with minimal proven data
 
Is 4 procent low enough for you that you don't want to bother at trying to get an even better online environment?
 
Of course not, but don't blog post like there's an epidemic of users discriminating against people
Besides, if there was generated data that the Welcoming was working, data trends would back it up
 
It's true that Welcome Wagon to date has been completely focused on brand new users, and that's excluded things that the folks here need in order to function and feel like a valued part of the community. David's describing a plan to address that exclusion this year. I know "just you wait" is something these communities have heard too many times already, but I hope some of the changes are working their way out into daylight. Like David said, change is in the air! (But you're forgiven if you don't want to take a deep sniff... it hasn't smelled so good in recent years.) — hairboat ♦ 4 hours ago
 
If new users are feeling unwelcome, lets talk about that... rather than some unrelated movement on twitter. I'd rather we scrap the whole "welcoming wagon" and move forward with something that is completely separate from that whole debacle.
There's too much baggage
 
6:55 PM
This is all reactive development, not proactive development.
 
Well, as much as I wish I could, I have had to tell people before..
 
i'll never see the welcoming wagon initiative as nothing more than a movement based on an outspoken twitter user who never has and never will use SO anyway
 
having mod tools doesn't mean you can keep everyone out. You can only react to what comes in.
 
I know what mods can and can't do, that's not the point here. There is a focus to avoid backlash from small groups saying loud words.
 
@KevinB Nah, that's not true. Even when I started programming a few years ago, SO already had the name of being a school of hard knocks. Which is why our teacher told us to ALWAYS look first, instead of straight out asking.
@SterlingArcher I guess this is where we start to agree to disagree then. But feel free to ask for numbers to back up the blog post on main.
 
6:58 PM
I understand SE has tried to move it from people are being discriminated against to new users aren't being treated well... but that doesn't change the undertones of what started this whole mess
 
No worries, I just personally put data over feelings
 
keeping it under the same title and continuing to link back to the same blog post doesn't help
 
Agreed. These blog posts make me feel like I'm the issue, when my history shows I'm nothing but helpful when I can be
 
Rob
The people whom feel unwelcome might not feel that the new welcome wagon is welcoming enough - thus their initial complaint, and no redemption. Much like a bus driver will never mess with a little old lady, but is quick to pick on youths. Skewed by what we presume to be the fact that the young person is wrong and what we know to be the truth; the little old lady is retired and has time to write a letter to the bus company. The youth will simply kick the bus after being kicked off.
 
But does Stack care about my feelings?
 
6:59 PM
our community was destroyed due to it
we were doing nothing wrong
 
7:17 PM
I like how the blog post says "were hiring devs" and there's no open dev positions on the careers page haha
 
@SterlingArcher they have 300+ applicants still to process for the last job opening
 
But more positions are opened :P
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username (92): Why is kedusha only said during the day? by ygoldson on judaism.SE
 
7:50 PM
@ArtOfCode I liked the 1st iteration of your comment a lot more ;)
 
@rene Oh, stop pushing buttons. both of you
 
@rene Well, likewise, but... I thought if I'm arguing for the CoC, poking it right in the face in a comment probably wasn't the best example :P
 
true that
 
9:00 PM
@SterlingArcher I asked for data related to the comments back in July. I'm still waiting.
 
9:48 PM
Now the biology guy is getting annoying
And with some odd (nonnative?) English I can't pinpoint, they feel like someone who just time traveled from 1800s.
 
Biology guy? Whowhatwhenwherewhyhow?
 
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Q: Truth and facts censored, notice that?

Doug ThompsonTruth/facts have always been painful/hurtful, what is causing so many to call truth/facts mean and edited right out of q and a sites?

The initial Markov chain bio.SE question was entertaining, but not its two follow-ups here
Scrolling up Bah, that wagon discussion again?
I wonder why people are so eager on having it when it usually doesn't end up making anyone feel better
We're at a state where SE promised some things, and until we can reasonably assert whether or not they committed to them any discussion is going to be a rehash of how vocal SO HATERZ LTD is.
That was my impression too The Wanderer. Did you ever know a guy by the name of Wiseacre? Hey, what's up? I LOVE live and breath facts, so investing time to investigate this site is prudent for me. Thank you all. — Doug Thompson 3 mins ago
Prudent? That doesn't even make sense
 
Oh, goody. And he just made an account on AskUbuntu.
 
wat
 
@fbueckert there are truths and facts there as well I presume ?
 
10:01 PM
@rene There are truths and facts everywhere.
I just hope I have the wisdom to see them for what they are.
 
I usually see them the way I like.
The emotional load is way less.
 
Well, if you squint hard enough, and look at it juuuuuuust right, you, too, might learn the truth.
 
@rene I'm not sure there is an old Christian cure for excessive Ubuntu love
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Nah, that cure's for dancing. Can't have that, now!
 
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Q: Has a spammer ever actually repented and reformed?

Robert ColumbiaIn this answer on the merits of the -100 reputation penalty for spamming, Journeyman Geek ♦ comments, Its worth remembering there's two (and half) types of spammers. There's the big commercial operations....These are beyond redemption. We nuke em from orbit....100 rep penalty? Foo. ...

Hmm, a certain CardOfOat should probably add an answer
I remember quite a few instances of it in MS posts
But nah, can't compete with Tim
 
10:23 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ ya mean like the one that's been there for 3 hours? ;)
 
10:36 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link, potentially problematic ns configuration in body (15): Help understanding a ufw killswitch script by BrainRenticus on unix.SE
 
Rob
10:50 PM
Q: Has a Repenter ever spammed ?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link, potentially problematic ns configuration in body (15): Understanding a ufw killswitch script ✏️ by BrainRenticus on unix.SE
 
11:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Keep Session with Terminator by Wand on superuser.com
 
Rob
11:56 PM
@Tinkeringbell - They may be referring to the pinned blog entry where stats are offered.
 
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