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12:44 AM

@ShadowWizard Serial upvoting is reversed, exactly the same as serial downvoting.

user310756

1:21 AM

@ShadowWizard that's some serious upvoting. Did you upset anyone?

user310756

and yes I'm aware it's upvoting.

2:00 AM

@YvetteColomb Yes he did, earlier one of his posts was vandalized with foul language, it came up in the queue and I scrubbed it out, then CM Catija made an edit - I presume that she nuked everything as I can not find it in MS and there's only a record of my edit but not what I edited at the link I provided.

2:23 AM

Now I'm curious to what it pointed at before

@Rob I wonder if its the bane of mods everywhere... the redaction tool

2:42 AM

@JourneymanGeek One sentence was changed to swearing and IIRC the user's name was anonymous. The edit and account were pointless, or for a single purpose, and so flush ....

@Rob ah

we had a few of those happen on SU as well

shrug

If they do it right there's nothing worth keeping to cross-reference for later, keeping it only takes up space.

ya

full control on own domain...

@ShadowWizard You can't spoof an IP address in that way.

Not unless you run a proxy on your router for them to use.

Optimus Prime

3:29 AM

wait...WHAT!!!!!!

when did we got moderators for MSE?

ikr

Optimus Prime

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Not planning to. I've some health problems. So can't work that much

cv-pls off-topic / tzitzit May a woman tie tzitzit to be worn by a man?

(also wtf that question got upvoted in the first 3 minutes)

Q: Please Join Us in Welcoming Our New Meta Stack Exchange Moderators!

4:29 AM

@OptimusPrime Hi

not long ;p

96

We're really excited to announce the appointment of three new community moderators to Meta Stack Exchange! I know this might come as a really big surprise to some, and I can't wait to talk about it, but let's not delay the introductions any more. Please welcome ChrisF, Tinkeringbell and Journeyma...

Just over a month

(man, feels longer)

They say the first month is the hardest.

oh, kinda

But during the second month they say the second month is the hardest.

And so on.

Ah, that old recce motto

"The only easy day was yesterday" ;)

So basically you're supposed to always be thinking that it will get easier, but it never will actually get easier.

4:33 AM

I've been a mod on SU a few years ;p

Super!

there's a few workflow and non technical things that need work on a new site though

especially with, well, the high profile, and politics

that's the same though ;)

You keep your head down, do your best, and.... you'll never win over everyone ;)

emu

4:56 AM

Dear Stack Exchange, Please don't tell me that I haven't voted on questions in a while when I've voted on questions twice in the past 35 minutes.

Optimus Prime

@JourneymanGeek Congrats

finally moderators tab on mse started showing something

@Alex VOTE MORE! VOTE FASTER! THE NAGGING WILL CONTINUE UNTIL VOTAGE IMPROVES!

(actually sounds like a bug)

I don't think it's a bug. I think it's just checking my ratio of votes on answers to votes on questions and seeing that I have many more votes on answers. But if so, it should be up front about that. Instead of saying "You haven't voted on questions in a while" it could say "You have voted for many more answers than questions", or something similar.

Maybe that's still a bug? Or a Feature Request to change the wording.

IDK. I need to vote more and no one nags me ;p

Q: The "don't forget to vote" message should not be telling me to upvote answers if I found the question useful

This is not the first time I've gotten into a fight with a voting message:

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So there is this message that I saw for the first time today that says: Welcome back! If you found this question useful, don't forget to vote both the question and the answers up. Here is a screenshot: This message asks me to upvote the question and the answers if the question is usefu...

feature-request voting wording notification-bar

5:12 AM

hmm

6:01 AM

@Alex You haven't voted on questions in a while!

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Define "a while".

Lifetime

of bacteria

Well, one badge I don't think I'll ever get is Electorate.

Elect to rate?

Vote more!

Besides, there's a reason that I vote for answers much more than for questions.

6:19 AM

cv-pls discussion Not about Stack Exchange Network software How to Integrating Wyam Into An ASP.NET MVC Site?‭ - Umar Asif‭ 2018-12-27 06:18:00Z

6:47 AM

@OptimusPrime Oh :( Hope it's nothing too serious

7:00 AM

@Makoto exactly what a monster would say. Sarcasm aside, that's what's REALLY starting to rub me off with this whole welcoming shtick. New users are allowed to throw all kinds of tantrum, insult everyone along their way, be mean, disrespectful, and not care about this site or what made it a success over the years. But if they are a new user, they are absolved of most of this, simply because they are new users. Isn't that being MORE than welcoming? — Patrice Nov 26 at 19:58

Point

"Everyone on SO iz hating nazi and I can be disrespectful because I have a new contributor shield"

On another note, there's a warm and fuzzy feeling to good meta posts from new users thanks to the wizard

No not you @Sha

That sounds annoying.

But yeah I've noticed that too.

It's made me less welcoming because I tend to discriminate against "new users".

Well... I think the message got lost

I'd rather be able to judge someone based only on the quality of their post and not have something shouting at me "hey guise I'm new! be gentle!"

@forest well the guidence differs

with a new user you want to teach

with an experienced user, they should know better

so you can apply polite percussive cranial maintainance.

I don't think there should be any extra lenience for new users.

I mean yeah it's totally fine to be polite, go for it.

7:10 AM

Well, I've had...

But when you have to actively defend (often willful) ignorance?

damn, almost a decade here?

and I've basically walked into a new site, asked a question, metaphorically faceplanted, and folks basically helped out.

(Skeptics is hard)

@forest you don't. You vote to close. You politely let a user know what's wrong

if he has an attitude problem, you flag.

Unfortunately, the "new contributor" notice is likely to also cause some drive-by downvotes. I'm guilty of that as well.

@JourneymanGeek Well it's not always a problem with a negative attitude.

once again though, that's clearly a lost message

Sometimes people just don't understand the rules and refuse to understand.

Or maybe they're just dense. I don't know.

7:11 AM

Abusive content about SO/SE on profile is accepted ?

@Shree Depends on what it is.

If it's against another user, no way.

Dragon Energy, Dragonstone

9.8k 2 32 63

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@Forest I read your message four different ways and two I agreed with and two I didn't o.o

@Shree Skimmed it, seems immature but not against the rules.

It's basically saying "this community is a bunch of assholes!"

It's not really being abusive to anyone in particular.

Mhm

Leave it be

7:13 AM

humm ok thanks.

Fun read though, thanks

Yeah it is amusing at least.

I keep plowing through meta.SO's worst but there are no good new rants :(

Arulkumar

Have anyone received the MSE newsletter on this Tuesday?

[Meta Stack Exchange newsletter is not delivered on December 25](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/321028)

Who does that? I already have 53 subscriptions to unsubscribe from

Hot question of the week: Compiling C# loop in Java

7:20 AM

Huh, that user has 8k rep.

How did he get that much and stay so bitter?

Quick question: Does SE use that meta tag to disable sending referers?

@forest Huh, I had some respect when he said "I bountied off 10k" but he probably doesn't know anyone can check out offered bounties

In other words, can I safely click a spam link out of curiosity without risking them knowing I'm coming from SE (and thus spamming the site even harder)?

Classic case of "I can be a 5-yo because it's the internet"

Meh, moving on

@forest Erm, I think so. You should confirm in Charcoal HQ

Aight

I mean I could probably check with inspect element...

I think I'll do that instead.

Well, Glorbot is basically WolframAlpha

7:25 AM

> Host: www.ietf.org
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
Connection: keep-alive

You can assume that if what he's saying is wrong, it'd become right by the time you click on the link