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there's some games that play better on controllers (cuphead is impossible to play on a keyboards) but CRPGs are typically better on mouse and keyboard

POE is single player no?

Magisch

9:45 AM

PoE's server architecture doesn't lend itself to cheating

i.E ultimate server authority & the server sims all "normal" gameplay alongside and reigns your client in from time to time

the worst you can do is automate pressing your flasks. But they have a detection algorhitm that works similar to google's recaptcha to map randomness of keypresses

Journeyman Geek

Right now I'm playing sunset overdrive. Which is a port of a 3-4 year old console game and actually dosen't suck inspite of a few small bugs.

Derpy

@Magisch does it feature a client-side controlled global auction house clock :P?

Shadow Wizard

@forest I don't plan to play multiplayer so not relevant for me. :)

I barely have time for single player...

forest

All I play is Touhou.

Which is only good for PC since the latency of a console would suck.

Shadow Wizard

There was a car race game for PC once, which I played with an XBox controller. Felt weird, but it was fun for a while. :)

In that game, part of the goals were to crash into things. lol

@JourneymanGeek from what I read it offers both single or multiplayer option.

Bart

10:00 AM

@ShadowWizard FlatOut?

Derpy

@forest Project Diva Future Tone works fine....

@ShadowWizard Destruction Derby?

forest

Touhou and some similar shootemups (Mushihimesama Futari) require a lot lower latency than Project Diva since it can be far harder to predict your movements.

Derpy

try Bangai-O

Bangai-O HD: The 360 Reaches It's Limit.

►

Also know as "and you were thinking Nuclear Catplosion in Dwarf Fortress was bad..."

and myself

10:44 AM

huff... puff...

Derpy

@ShadowWizard you completed Ni No Kuni, switch to Dragon Quest.

Shadow Wizard

10:56 AM

@Bart nope. Think something with Paradise. 10-ish years ago...

@Derpy nope ^

@Derpy completed but not satisfied. After 3 hours IRL time (spanning over whole week) of trying to complete a quest I gave up on it, and it means I can't have level 4 kingdom. Plus, I didn't even find the quest for the 100th citizen. :(

I do "cheat" when stuck with main quest sometimes, but not going to do that for side quests. So... EoG for me.

@Derpy heh. Looks familiar, i.e. same genre as many games I played. But is it relevant to start with Dragon Quest XI? Won't I miss too many background details of the game?

@andmyself you were... running... ?!

Derpy

11:27 AM

@ShadowWizard First six games were kinda related (two different trilogies) but after that it went for isolated games

you can still see a common pattern but that's it.

So if you were worried for the plot, that's not a problem.

Shadow Wizard

hmm... appears to be more expensive than others (280 NIS compared to 200 for others I bought so far, maybe because it's still very new) but since I buy about once a year... might give it a try. Thanks! @Derpy

I bought Ni no Kuni II in March. So 8 months to complete the game. Not bad, for me. :P

Derpy

@ShadowWizard just remember for added fun to check all the available checkboxes on this page during the "New game" setup.

Especially the one that says "(flutter) shypox" :P

Shadow Wizard

Shy... pox... ???

lol

Derpy

literally "Shy syndrome"

Shadow Wizard

hehe

Think I'll pass. On all of those. ;)

I'm not into all those "Super Mega Ultra Difficulty level".

Give me standard level of difficulty and I'm good. :)

Journeyman Geek

11:42 AM

Apparently millenials killed tuna nytimes.com/2018/12/03/business/…

and can openers.

Strange, I'm the only person in my family who can operate a sidecutter

Derpy

@ShadowWizard You may want to check the strong enemy and low experience settings if you feel that you are leveling too fast, but I advise you to stay clear from the rest.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek wait.. StarKist just closed their factory in Israel.. is this related??

There was quite a big noise about it.

(local only, I guess)

@JourneymanGeek you mean this?

Same for me, and I know how to use it only due to army.

Had to open hundreds of tuna cans.

Derpy

Shadow Wizard

Thus is trivial to use ^

Or... should be?

Journeyman Geek

what derpy linked

Shadow Wizard

11:46 AM

o_o

Journeyman Geek

shockingly there's people who use it the wrong way

Derpy

an actual can opener that normal-out-of-army-nonsense people use :P

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy less experience from easy battles should be default, it's common sense. We'll see. :)

@JourneymanGeek but.... how.... ?? lol

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy my parents used to use the nicer stabby sorta can opener

@ShadowWizard they use it to cut the top

you need to use it to cut the side

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek side?? But then everything spills out.

What am I missing?

Derpy

11:48 AM

@ShadowWizard they actually kinda mean 0. It already works with reduced exp, that option basically disables gain altogether and pretty fast. It is basically a "disable grinding" setting

Journeyman Geek

The proper way to use the Can Opener! You have been using the can opener all wrong!

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@ShadowWizard YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE

and myself

Oh... not can opener on vending machine

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy hmm... yeah, this does make sense. I don't like getting too strong without actually trying to. (which often happens since I do lots of side quests just for fun)

Derpy

@ShadowWizard anyway, you can enable those setting at the start of the game and disable them at any "save point". After disabling it, you cannot re-enable it on that save game.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy that's weird... OK, will see. :)

Derpy

11:51 AM

@ShadowWizard it is a sort of challenge thing, but they added the option to revert to "normal mode" at any time.

Shadow Wizard

oh, that's good.

painting @doppel in red

Derpy

If you do, the challenge is considered "lost" and you can't resume it after saving in normal mode.

Shadow Wizard

(so that we'll get @doppelredder)

Derpy

it is easier than it looks

and myself

Hmm... I think there's a similar Hard Mode thingy on La Mulana

doppelgreener

11:52 AM

@ShadowWizard [breaks out in hives]

Shadow Wizard

Many games got Hard Mode, usually unlocked after finishing the game though.

Derpy

it is similar to those games where you can lower the difficulty level after starting the game but you can't raise it

Shadow Wizard

@doppelgreener no no, don't break! Plz!

;)

Journeyman Geek

dopplebee-er?

Derpy

12:23 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Your Italian plumber historical rival got a reference yesterday in my swag contest attempt. If you want to suggest something Sega/Sonic related, feel free to.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Derpy Well, Sega already came up with a ton of time references in Sonic Generations, so not much options for original creations.

Derpy

oh, wait, maybe I should work on their claim about the Sonic and Knuckles story modes in S&K happening at the same time...

Shadow Wizard

12:39 PM

Trivia time! What does a Prime Minister do when deep in legal mud (nothing special, just some corruption and bribery issues) threatening to take him down? Destroying secret tunnels, of course! lol

user168476

@JourneymanGeek I tried to do this with my can opener and broke it.

Journeyman Geek

@Ash the "wrong" way?

ya, my parents did the same. Then blamed the can opener.

Shadow Wizard

lol

Proper can opener should arrive with full usage guide, including images. :)

hmm....

Dec 7 '12 at 16:30, by Tim Post

@TimStone Your base and the stuff you asked for in SE Asia are ready. I gotta ask though, what did you want the can opener for?

@TimStone did you get the can opener? ^

:D

(and if so.... you know how to really use it? ;))

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek Yep, the only thing missing on that video is a disclaimer "Sponsored by LifeHacks.SE"

Shadow Wizard

lol

Derpy

12:50 PM

seems an image from a patent found on Wikipedia is probably more trustworthy than random youtuber user

Shadow Wizard

@random? Our @random?

Derpy

anyway, thanks @JourneymanGeek. Now I managed to make all my coworkers think that one is actually true.

.... thinking about it maybe it is better if I warn them before they actually try.

Opening a can that way is probably a very fast way to hurt yourself

Journeyman Geek

vertically?

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek I think they are going to try the alleged "right" way that video is advertising. And I hope you didn't mean that the video should be taken seriously o_O

Unless that also implies that the guy that patented the can opener didn't realize how to use his own invention.

Journeyman Geek

1:16 PM

@Derpy that's totallly the actual right way ._.

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek You will have to persuade Charles A. Bunker before me :P

Tinkeringbell

It's opener specific ;)

Derpy

patents.google.com/patent/US1838525A/en

Tinkeringbell

We have a 'smooth edge opener' that should go horizontally, but the old-fashioned one should be done vertically (to risk less cuts)

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek I agree. Someone once showed me IRL how to do it, forgot who. It was like magic. :)

But I very rarely use a can opener, buying only those cans with that "pull to open" thing. :D

Derpy

1:27 PM

@ShadowWizard oh, fell free if you want to cosplay Frodo -_-'

Shadow Wizard

?

Bart

Does someone happen to have a couch? I need a nap.

Shadow Wizard

That's vague even in Derpy standards. ;)

zZzZzzZZzz

Bart

@ShadowWizard thanks

Shadow Wizard

@Bart sure thing, always at your service. :)

Bart

1:29 PM

One advantage of working on VR, I can just put on a headset and close my eyes :p

Shadow Wizard

lol

Derpy

Rarity's fainting couch is back

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so emblematic that someone made it into an action figure.

shapeways.com/product/VBDUTD58Y/mane-six-3-rarity

Mgetz

@Derpy that is some amazing 3d printing

Derpy

@Mgetz they sell 3d printed figurine. Hopefully they have top-level machinery and not just hobby/entry-level stuff :P

that said, I think they just do the printing based on models people send in. So the artist gets a percentage in the actual sales of figurines based on his/her models.

I seem to remember some of the models were actually "officially" endorsed by Hasbro too

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy why she faints so much? :(

Derpy

1:41 PM

@ShadowWizard She is a sort of "drama queen" archetype.

Shadow Wizard

oh

Derpy

One of her most popular phrases is "This is the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING."

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy Like that user who used to come here and rant every time he got a downvote? ;)

Mgetz

@Derpy There is no "Sort of" with her

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz you watch MLP too?

Mgetz

1:44 PM

in the past

the later seasons have been meh

Derpy

oh, nice, a ~~victim~~ fellow pony.

Shadow Wizard

You didn't know?! Thought you have Pony Sensor. @Derpy :)

Mgetz

pretty sure we've talked about this before

Derpy

was supposed to be a joke?

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz not here in Tavern...

@Derpy sensor? probably... :D

Derpy

1:47 PM

no, I mean my alleged not knowing.

Shadow Wizard

You still have the SugarCube room somewhere? @Derpy

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard yes here... you might not have been around

Derpy

@ShadowWizard it is on Sci-Fi.

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz I searched for mentions of "pony" or "mlp" from you... got no results. :)

Mgetz

May 31 at 14:13, by Mgetz

@Derpy tbf the equestria girls didn't help this

Shadow Wizard

1:49 PM

@Derpy well, if @Mgetz did mention MLP before, pretty sure it was with you, since I don't think we have other (known) ponies here... :P

@Mgetz oh.... tricky. Neither pony nor MLP key words in there. ;)

Mgetz

Yeah I searched for "Mane"

as in "Mane six"

Derpy

seven

Mgetz

because I wouldn't have used MLP because context would have been implicit

@Derpy I'm still at season 4

Derpy

To be fair, I was counting Sunset, not Starlight.

Sunset being the one from EG

Mgetz

@Derpy A character whom I know nothing about

gotta love when someone joins chat and asks for instructions on how to commit a crime CC @Shog9 (apologies for the ping)

Shadow Wizard

2:00 PM

@Mgetz context?

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard someone came into a chat and asked for instructions on how to write a malicious driver

Shadow Wizard

(Also, think Shog doesn't like having to dig and look for context. Just saying. :))

@Mgetz what chat? Why you need a CM for that?

Journeyman Geek

@Mgetz actually that's a good thing, clearly means they don't have the skillz

Mgetz

right before this message

in C++ Questions and Answers on Stack Overflow Chat, 7 mins ago, by Mgetz

@ptr_user7813604 we legally cannot answer this question

Shadow Wizard

As room owner, I'll just tell the user it's not acceptable in the room, move the message, and if the user keeps doing it, kick them out.

Journeyman Geek

2:02 PM

yup

Shadow Wizard

If this also fails and user returns and posting it again, escalate to moderators.

Mgetz

yeah but if they are asking how to commit a crime that has legal reprecussions

like it has to be preserved

Journeyman Geek

or grab a MSO mod - presumably by flagging

Mgetz

hence pinging a CM

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz someone can also come to chat and ask "How can I kill someone?".... so? It doesn't mean anyone should answer, or that person should be banned right away. Unless it's persistent and becoming a burden on the room regulars. Still, personally I don't see the need for CM.

Anyway, let's wait to see what Shog says. :)

Mgetz

2:05 PM

@ShadowWizard In the US at least it's proof of Means Rea, which means it's evidence of intent to commit a crime. It really only matters if they actually commit it or attempt to, but there is law against destruction of evidence that immediately kicks into effect

Sarbanes–Oxley Act

The Sarbanes–Oxley Act of 2002 (Pub.L. 107–204, 116 Stat. 745, enacted July 30, 2002), also known as the "Public Company Accounting Reform and Investor Protection Act" (in the Senate) and "Corporate and Auditing Accountability, Responsibility, and Transparency Act" (in the House) and more commonly called Sarbanes–Oxley, Sarbox or SOX, is a United States federal law that set new or expanded requirements for all U.S. public company boards, management and public accounting firms. A number of provisions of the Act also apply to privately held companies, such as the willful destruction of evidence to...

Shadow Wizard

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Q: Should virus or illegal-activity related questions/code be allowed?

I've seen posts pop up every once in a while on virus coding, and I went to flag them, but I didn't see a category under which to do so. After further investigation, I've had no luck finding rules against it, so I presume this means that there are no rules against it (correct me if i'm wrong). So...

@Mgetz ^

(and its dupe)

rene

We entered the realm of law-enforcement by SE community members?

Shadow Wizard

carefully stepping out

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard They explicitly said it was for use against their brother

That's a violation of CFAA

@rene no, just flagging something for preservation

rene

there is a difference between a prank and a crime ...

Mgetz

2:10 PM

@rene not in the US

CFAA is very very poorly worded

Journeyman Geek

@Mgetz so.. its someone being a dumb kid

and deletion isn't really destroying stuff in the SE context

Mgetz

@JourneymanGeek more than you can possibly know... because the CFAA basically means what a US federal prosecutor makes of it.

Shadow Wizard

waiting for article about USA citizen arrested for asking in a chat how to write a virus

:P

Journeyman Geek

@Mgetz assuming the user's in the US

Mgetz

@JourneymanGeek I'll leave that to the feds, I suspect they would argue that it shows intent to destroy evidence

Journeyman Geek

2:13 PM

and depends on whether said prosecutor is trying to make a point.

._.

Mgetz

@JourneymanGeek they usually are

Journeyman Geek

When they do

rene

we're all bound to the US law ...

Journeyman Geek

So, I used to know an idiot.

Shadow Wizard

fighting bounds

Journeyman Geek

2:14 PM

Threatened to break someone's legs on the internet.

The person threatened called the cops, and in this case a very polite FBI agent had a word

nothing much else happened

and unless there's an actual, well action and a victim I don't see how a crime is committed.

IANAL, but I do have some super vague legal modules in school ;)

I could come in here, jokingly asking how to destroy a body but I'd primarily be guilty of crimes against good taste not murder

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek easy!

body.destroy();

Journeyman Geek

Sadly there's some problems you can't solve with JS ;p

Shadow Wizard

boo hoo

Journeyman Geek

now you have 2 problems. JS and a dead body.

Shadow Wizard

lol

BodyScript

Mgetz

2:18 PM

either way... I'm done

rene

just dereference body and let it garbage collect

Shadow Wizard

And guess what? It exists! LOL /cc @Derpy ;)

@rene ouch, nasty death.

Journeyman Geek

This went better than the last time ;)

Shadow Wizard

Anyway.....

in C++ Questions and Answers on Stack Overflow Chat, 23 mins ago, by ptr_user7813604

OK, I were just kidding, I'm learning about device driver

rene

too late, the feds are on them ...

Shadow Wizard

2:21 PM

@Mgetz please try to be more... open (?) for humor. :)

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard ENOENT

Shadow Wizard

(even if sometimes in bad taste)

Journeyman Geek

and assume good intent ;)

rene

in defense of brothers: pranking them is not good intent ...

Journeyman Geek

silly kids ;)

I used to sneak in the rubber ducky song into my brother's MP3 player

Shadow Wizard

2:24 PM

rene

You screenshotted that of your W95 box?

Shadow Wizard

lol of course!

rene

lol

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek eww that's cruel!

Journeyman Geek

quite honestly someone who really knew me could do worse ;)

there's a few ear worms I hate

Shadow Wizard

2:27 PM

hmm...

Since you hate twitter.... making a twitter account on your behalf with real info about you would be a proper prank. @Journeyman ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I have a twitter account actually

Shadow Wizard

(sending suggestion to @JourneymanBrother)

Derpy

SRW OG (GBA) - Trombe!

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Journeyman Geek

with my real name too

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh. So how come you never mention it or use it to... umm... ask politely for things to be done in SE? ;)

Journeyman Geek

2:29 PM

@ShadowWizard cause I'd like to do things the right way

Practicing what I preach and all that

I guess I have a little more pull than some and that helps?

But that's the longer game - pick your fights, and make sure they matter

and its not always about what you want right now

Twitter sometimes gets you what you want quickly - but I've got a longer term need to take care of things - mostly on the sites I mod, but a few others as well.

and the influence my words carry kinda are useful there ;)

and twitter dosen't help me there.

Shadow Wizard

hmm...

Journeyman Geek

On the hand, twitter's great for passively picking up on stuff, if you tactically follow the right people

Magisch

That is a cool new picture @Catija

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek and fake stuff as well

if you happen to follow russian hackers accounts, that is. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I only follow back people I know

Shadow Wizard

2:39 PM

blatant-naa-plz-delete meta.stackexchange.com/a/319493/152859

Journeyman Geek

Kabooooooom

Shadow Wizard

Thanks!

Wait... does a deleted answer makes same noise as a question?

Journeyman Geek

more oooooom?

uses the same acme (tm) kaboom box.

Shadow Wizard

hrm...

OK! approved

:D

Feeds

2:57 PM

Snowy blizzards are fun, but so are warm sunny beaches, so we split the difference by having lots of icy wet slush!

Mgetz

Oh lol, the tumblr implosion is getting worse

Shadow Wizard

?

Mgetz

I'll link to the hacker news article... news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18606593

TLDR machine learning doesn't work well determining fingers from things rather more NSFW

Derpy

Article 13 is going to end SO WELL

Mgetz

That's pretty much the case, I'm pretty sure it will require that stack block all of the EU

because code is an absolute nightmare from a copyright perspective

Shadow Wizard

3:11 PM

@Mgetz oh, the typical stage when a social media site grows up and bans NSFW stuff? Yeah, it happens to all of them, at some point.

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard oddly the other way around it seems. Tumblr has actually shrunk since it was bought due to questionable policies

This is the first time they've announced they were doing this, previously they just shadowbanned people

Shadow Wizard

I don't have numbers, but I got a feeling this is indeed a death blow in their case.

Mgetz

agreed

Basically yahoo paid too much for them

Shadow Wizard

oh, they're owned by Yahoo? Makes sense... Yahoo made so many mistakes.

Derpy

I will only say that the ones that proposed some of the things in that article should also provide a fully functional and working POC on how to put those automated filters in action.

Mgetz

3:13 PM

and this is their last ditch attempt to make them profitable by shoving ads literally everywhere without serving NSFW ads

@ShadowWizard Verizon now, which is more conservative

Shadow Wizard

hmm... someone going over faq answers and fix outdated info in them... and it's not @Sonic this time. :)

Mithrandir

5:42 PM